November 2007 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] Problem with cryptotab and Opensuse 10.3
by Jan Tiggy 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

/etc/cryptotab: /dev/loop1 /dev/sdb1 /media/hdd5 reiserfs twofish256 acl,user_xattr After umount /media/hdd5 a remount produces: 'dev/sdb1: cryptotab_loop1 already mapped' However there is no loop1 mount present. I'm aware of the changes in cryptomount but the old way suppose to work according to the release notes. Any idea how to solve this? Di I miss something? It worked on 10.2. thx /j -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Second Try: Redesign of YaST Control Center
by Stefan Hundhammer 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

After reading so many dozens of utterly off-topic posts in the first thread I gave up. The first thread was not meant to be about generic wishes about YaST and related. It was not about a complete rewrite of everything. It was not about what could be improved in various individual YaST modules. It was not about bugs that could be reported with Bugzilla. It was not about dropping the ncurses text mode (we don't plan to do anything like that). Rather, it was about The YaST Control Center in particular the Qt version. This is the small, very basic, Qt-only (very little dependencies, in particular not to the entire YaST engine) application that starts YaST modules. Some people call it the YaST shell. Currently, it looks like this: http://en.opensuse.org/Image:YaST_Control_Center.png And THIS is what we want to change. THIS is what we want a radical new approach (or, at minimum, a radical new look). So please, let's start over and PLEASE let's focus on the topic. We think community input is important. We think some of you out there might have a really great idea how we could do this control center thingy better. We identified a number of problems with that old control center: (1) There are too many icons in there - way more that can easily be navigated. (2) The groups don't always match users' expectations. (E.g., is firewall more related to security or to network?) (3) It's hard for newbies to figure out what does what. (3a) Sometimes it's hard to figure out the difference between modules. (4) It's often enough hard for expert to find things. (5) It's not exactly pretty. Back when we designed that control center, we figured it would do its job fairly well. But that was when we only had a small number of modules. And eye candy was less readily available from the underlying toolkits. Time has changed since then. I counted no less than 119 YaST-related .desktop files on my machine (not counting the groups files). That corresponds to 119 icons that have to be presented somehow. That just doesn't scale any more with the old control center approach. So in the ideal case we would like to have a completely new approach. This is what that "radical change" was all about. Maybe there is a different way than just placing a lot of icons in a window (with or without groups) and let the user figure out how to deal with it. Carefully taking care, of course, of all kinds of users, newbies as well as experts. Failing that, maybe somebody has a good idea how to present the modules traditionally in an icon view, but in a way that does not overwhelm everybody when the window opens (the "show all at once" approach) or that leaves the user searching for the right module at most times (the icon groups or even icon tree approach). This is what that was all about. This is what we ask your opinions for. CU -- Stefan Hundhammer <sh(a)suse.de> Penguin by conviction. YaST2 Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Nürnberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse] Suse 10.3 hangs for 2 minutes at start of boot sequence.
by Carlos E. R. 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - From robin.listas(a)telefonica.net Fri Nov 30 13:11:39 2007 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:11:36 +0100 (CET) From: Carlos E. R. <robin.listas(a)telefonica.net> To: walt <walt(a)helvatron.co.uk> Subject: RE: [opensuse] Suse 10.3 hangs for 2 minutes at start of boot sequence. El 2007-11-30 a las 11:26 -0000, walt escribió: Please, remember to post to the list. >>> Edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and add "splash=verbose" to the kernel >>> boot options, instead of "splash=silent" > > Great stuff many thanks, Carlos. > > I can now see the problem: > Comreset failed (errorno 960 or 976) Good! > And I have found the patch but I have no idea what to do with it: > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=331610 (discussion) > https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=179146 (patch) > > Looks like a script to me so it must go into some sort of boot file > somewhere for the kernel to use. Any ideas? No, it is not an script. A patch is a file with "differences". Applying the patch to the relevant file (one of the kernel source files, I think) changes that file to the new version, ie, it applies the differences. After that, you would need to recompile the kernel. Which is impossible if you can't boot. But I can't give you more specifics, it's the first time I read about this problem, nor am I a kernel expert... - -- Saludos Carlos E.R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHUAm0tTMYHG2NR9URAmtMAJ9De3axJeVONili27Z1CiOvePla+gCgj5qi q1z8OZl2KWQcMLKWC7ZH5lE= =vhkg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[opensuse] Any "Cut and Paste" HOWTO's?
by Chris Worley 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

I've been using Unix since the 80's, and prefer X's left-button-drag-cut (or double or triple click) and middle-button-paste to WinDoh's, but, these days, nothing seems to work. I mostly use KDE, Konsole, Evolution, Firefox, and OpenOffice, and mostly just want to copy and paste text between these apps. Copy/paste within the same Konsole session seems to work properly, but, between apps is hit-and-miss. I.e. I'll copy some text from an OpenOffice editor (using left and middle mouse clicks), and paste into a Konsole... and it takes a couple of tries before it pastes. Aggravating. In years past, this worked seamlessly... but my last few revs of OpenSuSE (the only place where I use a GUI) seem to have lost the ability to cut and paste w/o multiple tries. I tried cutting a graphical section out of Acrobat.. and it said it had put it to the clipboard, but I could not paste into any app, including "gimp". Cut&paste within an app is not that helpful, we need to cut and paste between apps. Does X need to "go back to the drawing board"? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Any "Cut and Paste" HOWTO's?
by Will Stephenson 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

On Friday 30 November 2007, Lubos Lunak said: > If you can reproduce without Klipper, replace one of the apps with some > other using a different toolkit to find out which of them is causing the > problem (i.e. if the problem is with OOo vs Konsole, try with OOo vs GEdit, > GEdit vs Konsole, you can use also e.g Firefox or XTerm). Then report a bug > for the app to which the problem is specific. Agreed, that's why I asked if the OP could reproduce the acroread problem when copying from KPDF instead further up the thread. Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Suse 10.3 hangs for 2 minutes at start of boot sequence.
by walt 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Hi all, Further to my previous email, I now have an error message: Comreset failed (errorno 960 or 976) This is what takes ages, like 2 - 3 minutes, before the system starts loading. Can anybody tell me what it means and what to do about it. Many thanks,Walter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Hi, I tried to upgrade Suse 10.2 to 10.3 but that failed so I did a clean, fresh install with a freshly partitioned harddisk. Suse displays the boot options screen and then switches to the normal splash screen where you should be able to press esc to get to text screen showing you what its doing. And this is the problem, its sits there for 2 minutes or more and the keyboard won't respond. Then it finally starts the boot process at which point I can press esc to see the progress. Once it starts it behaves normally but I have to eliminate the long delay before it boots. Any ideas? I have already removed all peripherals especially usb devices but to no avail. Walter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] KDE4 Question
by Kai Ponte 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Where does one pose a question about KDE 4? I have the live CD loaded in VMWare and I have a few items to inquire about. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Updating OpenSuse 10.3
by Philippe Landau 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

System:Configuration:Install Software calls a title-less YaST2 module where updating the system is hidden under: Package:All Packages:Update I configured it to use the following repositories: Filter:Repositories: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/non-oss/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:10.3/standard/ http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/10.3 http://download.opensuse.org/update/10.3/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_10.3/ http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/10.3/ http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/10.3/ Is this a good choice ? Unfortunately i don't see how to edit or change the list there. And in the Change Log i miss the version names in the list. Updating Channels in Smart-Gui Package Manager is just as awkward, and it lists different addresses: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/ http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/non-oss/ http://download.opensuse.org/update/10.3/ RPM System (no URL) Is the first just an alias of the URL used in Yast ? What is openSUSE Updater using ? It currently reports two security updates i don't see in Yast2. And Yast2 just updated a few apps that Updater did not see. You can rightly say that i don't understand how to update OpenSuse 10.3, but i would also say it's a bit of a mess :-) Especially in contrast to the professionalism that goes into building all those updates. Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] How to determine the number of bad blocks?
by Jeremy Figgins 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

I have a USB external harddrive that I suspect is on its last leg. I would like some definitive way to determine the number of bad blocks. I've run "fsck /dev/sdb1 -c" several times, but the only output is: /dev/sdd1: 11/30539776 files (9.1% non-contiguous), 1006495/61049000 blocks where that first number (1006495) goes up with every run of fsck -c. Is that number the number of bad blocks? And if not, then how can I find out? Thanks in advance! Jeremy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Preparing to sleep...
by Daniel Bisaillon 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

We are installing Suse and using iScsi to mount some drives. We can get access to the mounted drives okay. But overnight when no one is using the system the following message appears in the /var/log/messages file. zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Preparing to sleep... In the morning the mounted drives no longer exist and we must manually load them again. Could this message have anything to do with it? If so how can I correct? ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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