August 2005 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

SuSE 9.3 Pro and Thunderbird RPM.
by Fernando Lujan 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

First of all, a first impression... I had worked with Slackware until some days ago. Then, I decided to give SuSE a try... It's very good indeed... It's graphical but good... ;) I'm loving such experience. Which rpm repository can I use to install packages like Thunderbird? Thanks in advance. Fernando Lujan

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play - playwave
by Frederik Vos 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

hello all, Very minor issue, but some programs like Gaim are looking for the command play, but that doesn't exist. Just replacing it with playwave ... maybe change it in the package, for the newbies using the final release :) greetz F ps: beta2 rules !!!!!!!!!!

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SUPER, SUSE Performance Enhanced Release.
by Andreas Girardet 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

Hello fellow openSUSE hackers. So far we have a few people to start this project to optimize certain parts of openSUSE, but as usual the more the better. Maybe we just present each other and start from there with expectations and capabilities. I start and once we have identified anyone that is interested we can move this discussion offlist. We need anyone with any skill and capabilities to inject some steroids into an already fantastic distribution. My name is Andreas Girardet and I work for Novell as Consultant in NZ. I am the founder of and used to be maintainer of Yoper "Your Operating System" an optimised from scratch Desktop distro (I have stepped out of Yoper at the beginning of the year). My main goal is and always has been to make the Linux migrants' experience a very positive one. I am very excited about openSUSE as I believe it is the first commercial grade distro (as far as I am aware) that has a completely Open development model. As opposed to an open distro trying to be commercial (with drawbacks) or the other big commercial distro not really supporting its open "step" child and just using it as a test bed for technologies as opposed to its main source tree. My experience are mainly in packaging, System Administration and I am overall a resource of boundless enthusiasm, which can be highly infectious. My expectation is to 1.) Create a openSUSE / SUSE based desktop, that is at least as fast and snappy as windows. Most peoples' experience of Linux on the desktop is at first a disappointment, when it comes to speed since some distro's do run significantly slower than Windows. NLD and SUSE is not an exception and ex windows users in the Novell office complain about this and welcome my little tweaks here and there to make it snappier. But I rather have a solution to the issue instead of hacking and tweaking single systems again and again. 2.) Create a test case with a written proof of concept of such a desktop to lay in front of the openSUSE community. Plan is to release a first desktop at the same time with 10.0 going gold. This testcase should have a written design with respective outcomes/deliverables and a spread sheet with tests we can do against openSUSE standard and openSUSE on steroids. I would call it SUPER ...:D SUSE Performance Enhanced Release ... only kidding, but we do need some sort of codename for this. We can use this testcase also as a business case to put in front of Novell/SUSE internally here to put some ressources into moving things aggressively into a more optimised desktop direction as I believe this will be the one key differentiator moving forward in the battle of the desktops. 3.) Personally I want to stay as close as possible to the openSUSE code, since this means that each openSUSE release gets followed on the day by our "addon" packages. Those packages should and could be installed on top of an existing openSUSE install or for convenience sake we could also create a 1 CD base desktop distro a user can download and install quickly and then install additional packages onto with Yast or Kynaptic/Synaptic against the gwdg.de repository , which I personally really like. We could also create a mini install containing <150 base packages on top of which a geek can install the rest. A real minimal install, which I personally also like. In short I do not want to create a new distro out of this or a fork that requires large amounts of code maintenance, since IMHO that would be futile and certainly something that is in my eyes not really required and quite pointless, I certainly would not want to be part of such a fork. The maintenance will be done by the wider community anyway, we just take it and mold something out of it that we think is faster, better, stronger ;) ....... SUSE on steroids. I am sure SUSE research can use some things we will do in future releases and we certainly will do whatever SUSE research thinks could improve performance. 4.) Personally I have some time I can dedicate to this, possibly 20-30 hours per week. My focus can be on the design and the packaging. I think we can easily have something ready by the time SUSE 10 goes gold. 5.) Personally, we should have scripts at the end of this which automatically create our custom version out of each SUSE release. That we we can spend time fine tuning instead of constant hacking and packaging. I can also already give us all an account on a buildserver on a 100Mbit in the US I set up. Please let me know if you want access to it. So if you are still keen, reply and present yourself and tell us about your expectations. We should at some point move this offlist or onto another list, since I am sure others on this list don't want to constantly read our ramblings ;) Thanks for those who listened and GO SUSE GO! Thanks so much for openSUSE .... a dream come though .... Regards, Andreas Girardet Consulting Architect Novell, Inc., the leading provider of information solutions http://www.novell.com My phonenumbers: NZ Mobile: 0064-027-645-9827 NZ Landline: 0064-09-3081400

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Thunderbird address file
by Mike Roy 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

Hello everyone: I'm using Thunderbird on SuSE 9.3. What I would like to do is to save the file containing all of my e-mail addresses to a safe location (probably another hard drive). Then, when needed, I could simply copy and overwrite the 'saved' file with the current file containing the latest e-mail addresses. Also, should I have to re-install Thunderbird, I could retrieve the 'saved' file and simply replace the new (empty) file with my saved copy containing my e-mail addresses. Does anyone know exactly where Thunderbird keeps this e-mail address file? Cheers and thanks, Mike

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Updated files?
by BandiPat 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

Hi all, New to the list and haven't done a full install of 10.x yet. I did download the first disc of beta 1 and I understand beta 2 is ready to post. Looking over the file list on disc 1, I notice 10 is still carrying the 1.7 version of Mozilla. Since 1.8 is out and has been out for sometime, doesn't it seem logical to include a later version in 10? Just a thought, since 10.x will be a major version change, so the programs should be too. What I have seen thus far, is impressive though and I think 10.x will be a barnstormer! I guess I need to setup that other system, so I can play more with the new one. ;-) Lee -- --- KMail v1.8.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 There's no problem so awful that you can't add some guilt to it and make it even worse! ...Calvin & Hobbes

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md5sum from apt-get
by B. Stia 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

Hello SuSE people, Just downloaded kernel-source using apt-get. Of course during the download I lost the connection twice. It picked up, supposedly, where it left off but I don't trust it. How do I get the md5 sum of the original on the repository? Bob S.

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SuSE 9.2 Pro Sax problem
by James Balcom 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

I have just installed SuSE 9.2 Pro. I am unable to change my monitor resolution to greater than 640x480. The monitor is Viewsonic PF790. I've tried a brand new video card: MSI TD128E RX300 TDE128E (ATI Radeon X300 SE Extreme Power) and an old Speedstar 24X (S3 86c325 S3virge). This card/monitor works perfectly on SuSE 8.1 Pro. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Wide Eyes

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YaST2 and "NO_PROXY" setting
by David J N Begley 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

(Unfortunately nobody on the openSUSE mailing list wants to test this on 10.0 beta so I'm reporting this here, not really expecting anything will be fixed. This is just FYI.) Folks, I've found a problem with YaST2 as shipped with SuSE Linux 9.2 - this could exist in newer versions (9.3 and 10.0 beta) but I don't have either of those installed anywhere to check. Essentially, YOU (YaST Online Update) doesn't honour the NO_PROXY variable in /etc/sysconfig/proxy; if you try to access a user-defined update site such as "updates.my.dom" and have either "my.dom" or ".my.dom" (I tried both just in case - neither worked) in the NO_PROXY variable, YOU will still go via the defined proxy server. I even removed all http_proxy and ftp_proxy variables from my environment before running YOU, just in case - made no difference. This may not be much of a problem for a single client running YOU, but as the number of clients increases the behaviour becomes intolerable (the Internet proxy server ends up having to serve requests that would be better serviced by the clients talking directly to the update server - that's why NO_PROXY exists in the first place). Cheers.. -- "A fate worse than a fate worse than death - that's pretty bad." - Captain Blackadder (Blackadder Goes Forth)

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Re: [SLE] Just installed 9.3 and having some problems with video card and monitor -- any ideas?
by Carl Hartung 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

On Tuesday 16 August 2005 10:17, Gil Weber wrote: > Just give me a number to call and one or two possible times that are > convenient for you. > > Gil Gil, That shouldn't be necessary. Tell me a little more about your arrangement there. How are you communicating on-line and troubleshooting? Are you leaving the card installed and just switching bios settings? If so, that's good. If you're shutting down from troubleshooting and reconfiguring things to go on-line for e-mails, that's unnecessary and too much work. How have you set yourself up? - Carl

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RE: [SLE] Block Ads from Gmail and Google
by mlist＠safenet-inc.com 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

Jie Li gasped: > check this out: > https://mail.google.com/mail/help/program_policies.html > > # Modify, adapt, translate, or reverse engineer any portion > of the Gmail Service > # Remove any copyright, trademark or other proprietary rights notices > contained in or on the Gmail Service > # Reformat or frame any portion of the web pages that are part of the > Gmail Service > > Dear god, it seems that this custumizegoogle extension is not > allowed by the > google program policies, Hee hee hee! Don't panic. :-) You aren't doing any of the forbidden things. The "service" stops before your computer. They might have a problem if you were forwarding their stuff to other users, stripped of their copyright and trademark. For your purposes, you are receiving everything that they send to your mailbox. Your program is only showing it to you modified for your comfort. If it was illegal to mask parts of a message, it would have to be illegal to modify it for accessibility by the visually impaired, etc. At worst, you are refusing to send requests (for them to deliver ads to a spot in your mail-reader window). So what? Resume blocking. Kevin The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it.

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