December 2005 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Kopete ?
by Erik Jakobsen 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

Hi. Which package does kopete belongs to ? -- Venlig hilsen - Best regards - Erik Jakobsen SuSE Linux 10.0 Eval.. Licensed HAM-RADIO with the callsign OZ4KK http://www.urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 with http://counter.li.org

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nVIDIA 6200oc board help
by Steve Lett 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

Hi all, I'm pretty much stumped. Can't get my Christmas present to work yet... sniff, sniff, ;-) Can't get the nVIDIA driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1.run installed. Downloaded it from the nVIDIA site directly. Have followed instructions PAINFULLY to the letter in a mad attempt to get this thing working and have yet no success after 3 days. I just reinstalled the entire system from .iso in the last 3 days and have been recreating it from scratch for a variety of reasons, but it's pretty snappy and clean right now. Therefore I wanted to install this driver to get the new video card working fully. I had sound problems just after installing the video card, but since reinstalling everything, all that is fixed, Kaffeiene / libdvdcss2 / etc. all updated and all audio, DVD, mp3, sound, etc. working fine. well... except the slow choppy video which is the reason I pursued a new video card to start with. I'm plugged into the new vidcard now and it seems working, I do see some significant improvements, but I'm sure it's gotta be a huge difference with the right driver installed... I have -according to YaST- kernel version 2.6.8-24.10 installed now. I have purposely NOT downloaded patches to the kernel as I've heard that this can be problematic as well. I just want to take one thing at a time. But as I understand it, if I DO end up with a kernel update then I'll have to install the nVIDIA driver again too as it's tied to the kernel versions. Does that sound right? But so far I've been fiddling with this installation routine for days and I think I understand WHAT it cannot find but I don't understand HOW to make it find specifically the files it wants and that I am sure are already there in these paths: /usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.10/include/linux/ /usr/src/linux/include/linux /lib/modules/2.6.8-24.10-default/build/include/linux These are all paths were there are kernel.h files and/or linux kernel, sources, etc. Here is the error log from the failed installation process. ****************************************** nvidia-installer log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' creation time: Wed Dec 28 23:19:15 2005 option status: license pre-accepted: false update: false force update: false expert: false uninstall: false driver info: false no precompiled interface: false no ncurses color: false query latest driver ver: false OpenGL header files: false no questions: false silent: false XFree86 install prefix: /usr/X11R6 OpenGL install prefix: /usr Installer install prefix: /usr kernel source path: (not specified) kernel install path: (not specified) proc mount point: /proc ui: (not specified) tmpdir: /tmp ftp site: ftp://download.nvidia.com Using: nvidia-installer ncurses user interface -> License accepted. -> No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; would you like the installer to attempt to download a kernel interface for your kernel from the NVIDIA ftp site (ftp://download.nvidia.com)? (Answer: Yes) > No matching precompiled kernel interface was found on the NVIDIA > ftp site; this means that the installer will need to compile a > kernel interface for your kernel. -> Kernel source path: '/usr/src/linux' -> Performing cc_version_check with CC="cc". ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. ERROR: Installation has failed. Please see the file: '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details. You may find suggestions on fixing installation problems in the README available on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com. ******************************************* OK OK you can't find the kernel Colonel, now how do I tell ya where it is? I'm sure its a modification of the routine I do at the command prompt to make this thing start, but no idea what the magic words are. Aren't kernel source path and kernel install path gonna be the same path name? How do I know just what path the variable is supposed to point to? What I'm doing to generate the log file is this: linux:~ # sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1.run from a command line after I init 3 out of the gui. Anybody know how to make it find the files it wants to find when I try to run this installer routine? Oh, I'm running 9.2Professional if it matters. Thanks! Steve In a world without walls or fences, who needs Windows or Gates? Registered Linux User #287453 ---------------------------------------- '87 Street Comanche #24/100 '92 Cherokee '88 Grand Wagoneer '87 Grand Wagoneer ...and they say there's only one... --------------------------------------- -- _______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze

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RE: [SLE] OO: If you can make it, I can break it!
by Kai Ponte 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

> > No, I'm not aware of any tricks to tune OOo to start quicker, except > > for the quicklauncher, which I don't use because I don't want it hogging > > my memory when I'm not using OOo. > > Then don't bitch about how s l o w it is to load. That is what the > quickstarter is there for. It does the same thing MS does, it pre-loads > the libs. Thank you. I was waiting for someone to point that out. > Oh, and the quickstarter doesn't use -that- much memory. Nope: oooqs currently using 0.00 user and 0.00 system percent and taking 31K of memory. By comparison, mysqld running just below in the process table list takes up 101K. Unfortunately, I don't have a tool like a DLL-spy which I use in Wintendo to see what linked libraries are loaded. -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com linux - genuine windows replacement part

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SuSE 10 - Problems with PEAR
by Stephen Carter 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

I'm trying to install the PEAR package Image_Graph (forced install to override 'stable' only package preferences as it's still in Apha) but I get an error that PEAR Installer is too old and needs to be at least v1.3.1. I have installed apache2, php4 & php4-pear from the SuSE10 Eval DVD. I also installed gd, php-gd and all other Image_Graph dependencies using pear just fine, but the final one just doesn't want to play. 1) How do I find out what version of PEAR I am running? 2) How do I upgrade PEAR? 3) How do I install Image_Graph? I have checked older versions of this package on the website but almost all of them require at least pear v1.3.1. On SuSE 9.3 the Image_Graph package does install so I'm not sure of where to look. Thanks, SteveC

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Unable to see netbios name of linux server
by Peter Hartlén 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

Hi! I just experienced a Suse linux server that wouldn't start. First I thought it was a hardware failure on the system disk, which turned out to be wrong. During my search for the cause of this malfunction, I also ran Knoppix. Eventually a BIOS update was all that was needed. When I got Suse running again, it just won't broadcast it's NetBios name 'SIBMASTER' to the other computers on the network. I can see the router in 'attached devices' on my router, but it is named 'UNKNOWN NAME'. It is also only possible to connect to the server using it's IP-address. We are using the workgroup name SIB. I did a grep -r SIBMASTER * in /etc to see where the name SIBMASTER was located. I found it in the following files with the row it was on: /etc/HOSTNAME SIBMASTER (I've also tried SIBMASTER.SIB here) /etc/hosts 192.168.0.2 SIBMASTER.SIB SIBMASTER etc.. /etc/postfix/main.cf myhostname = SIBMASTER.SIB /etc/samba/smb.cnf netbios name = SIBMASTER So, why isn't the name of the server broadcasted to my router or any other computer on the network? Any tips on what I should look for? Thanks in advance! / Peter

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bug in SuSe 10.0 and OpenAL apps???
by David Ward 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

I am having problems with SuSe, OpenAL and my games. I have had no problem launching these same games from the same installed dir, on the same system with Mandrake/Mandriva and Gentoo installs. *UT2004* gives the best feedback. i get: ioctl SETFRAGMENT grab: Invalid argument ut2004-bin: al_mixer.c:735: _alSetMixer: Assertion `mixbuf.data' failed. Signal: SIGIOT [iot trap] Aborting. So i did a search for the al_mixer.c file in the openal source. I found it in both the kernel source tree AND in the ut2004 install dir [i choose to install OpenAL and SDL source when i re-installed ut2004] I found the function that does the assertion. Its comment and decleration are as follows: /* * _alSetMixer( ALboolean synchronous ) * * Sets mixer to match the current context. If synchronous is AL_FALSE, a * seperate thread is launched. * * assumes locked context */ void _alSetMixer( ALboolean synchronous ) *Call of Duty.* This fails saying: "Failed to start the Miles sound system...." *MoHAA:* This starts without an error, but no sound *BF1942: *Same as *MoHAA *Sound, otherwise is great! Mixing is working right out of the box, unlike with the other distro's i have tried. Is this a bug worth reporting ?? I have seen posts by other SuSe users with the same problem on forums around the net, but no solutions. Does anyone here have their games working [Native or Cedega] ?? Thanx alot.

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Test ignore.
by Kevanf1 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

Just a test as I'm getting bounces from the list. Sorry. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care this Xmas. PLEASE DON'T drink and drive. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

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Re: [SLE] OO: If you can make it, I can break it!
by Mike McMullin 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 04:20 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote: > > George Ou has blogged on Z-DNet, some comments on OOo under 10.0 and > > MSO under XP that disagree with you. However it is interesting to note > > that he has tuned his XP system for faster usage. > > Joo hace a link? /me would like to read. Put the following line as is, into Google "george ou"+"suse" Should be the first english result.

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Tech Support - Installation TaxACT Deluxe
by Fred A. Miller 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

A "standard" brain dead response. Fred __________________ Dear TaxACT Customer, Although there are no plans to release a Linux version of TaxACT at this time, Linux users can utilize our TaxACT Online Standard, Deluxe or Ultimate Bundle Versions. TaxACT will run on Windows 95, 98, ME, NT 4.X, 2000 and XP. If this still doesn't fix your problem then try our online service! Thank you for using TaxACT. Please let us know if you have any further questions. TaxACT Technical Support Support(a)taxact.com TS-343 We invite you to participate in our Customer Service & Support Survey at: http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB224ES9KLJUU This survey will help us gain feedback from our customers to assist us in our communication efforts. ***You may also find an instant answer for your question in our Frequently Asked Questions*** http://www.taxact.com/tsupport/results.asp For faster service and to avoid communication errors please include all previous correspondence in any future emails. AOL USERS: Please check the "Include Original Text in Reply" box at the bottom of your email window. -- Paid purchaser of ALL SuSE Linux releases since 6.x

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Routing Enormous Traffic for Video Studio
by Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

Hi, Anyone had and experience (or just ideas) how to use Linux server in video studio for sharing RAID between 3 - 4 Power Mac workstations, taking into account enormous traffic generated by video capture and editing? One solution is to use Apple XRaid, XSan, and 2 XServe (1 pc will work, but 2 pcs are better, one is used for routing traffic, second for data transfer). Unfortunately, this is OUT of budget (Fibre Channel SAN system is not a solution for a project with strict budget). My idea is to use 3Ware Escalade Card (with 8x500 GB HDs formatted as 4 Level-0 RAIDs), installed into Linux box, and 4-port Gigabit Ethernet Card. The question is how to organize traffic routing between this Linux box and 4 PowerMacs (all of them have Gigabit Ethernet on-board), so each Mac could see every RAID, yet passing exclusively all traffic through defined Ethernet port on server (in order to avoid Ethernet link saturation and video frame dropout)? Additionally, all Macs should see each other. Phew, complex and unusual, but that is a challenge :-)) Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s). ************************************************ *** with best regards *** Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) *** Mac, Linux, DTP, Programming Web Site *** *** http://snow.prohosting.com/guru4mac/ ************************************************

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Acer Ferrari 4000 and linux
by J. Scott Thayer, M.D. 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

Can anyone tell me if they have experience loading linux (my current version is 9.3) on this laptop? I have to go into the hospital for a prolonged stay in the near future and would love to have linux available to me on my laptop to pass the time. I tried a live CD version and it did load but I was unable to get graphics beyond the framebuffer with 16 colors. I know what a difficult subject this is but I would sure appreciate any help I could get. Thanks. Scott

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Expert Partitioning Q
by B Stia 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

Hello SuSE experts, This thread was formerly "LVM problems" Since nobody replied, I will update my attempts at mastering LVM, and a few simple questions. Now the questions: 1. Why ???? does the partitioner want to label the hard drive ms dos ?? That line is highlighted red when you get to the final screen for the partitions setup. I think that means trouble, right? That is the only problem. I have looked at that every which way and can't seem to find a way to change that. I previously asked this question. 2. When using the LVM do you, or do you not, need to create an extended partition? The answer is no, you do not. Just make a regular primary partition an LVM and put all of separate partitions in there. (PV's) Hope everybody out there had great Holidays and are getting ready for New Year. Bob S.

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RE: [SLE] OO: If you can make it, I can break it!
by Patrick Freeman 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: elefino [mailto:kevinmcl@magma.ca] <big snip> > At work, my main desktop machine runs Win XP Pro. From the time that > I press the power switch, until the time that the hard disk stops > churning, > takes a minute or so, including the few seconds that it takes me to > authenticate. The company and I have both added some extra > stuff that lives in the tray, and that has added a few seconds. That's amazing. > When I boot SuSE 9.3 on that computer, or SuSE 10 on my home > computer (the one that I'm writing from, at this moment), it takes > many minutes for SuSE to load, then (after I login) it takes a further > few minutes for KDE to load. The difference between starting after > a clean shutdown, versus starting and re-opening apps (like multiple > Konqi windows) that I might have left open at last shutdown is a > very small portion of the total start time, so I discount that portion. My testing has been very minimal -- but I have noticed a pretty long time to boot when I selected everything on the DVD (for SuSE). Because of some requirements at work, I use office more often (via vmware) than I do OOo (and I can't really speak on the apps front anyway). I do know that every other install I have had when I was judicious on the install, smoked windows in responsiveness for everything that I did -- and did not *seem* to be much longer on the boot time. One of the points I made, is that windows has addressed the very issue that you complain about quite well -- which is the customer experience -- real or perceived (and you are describing real numbers). I think that a lot of ground can be covered by a distro vendor or third party, if they would address this facet (and not necessarily in a copy-windows-behavior mode) of the OS. I think the majority of the desktop market is served best by the things which annoy those of us who are current Linux fans. The new breed of Linux fans will be the ones who find it as satisfying from a productivity and user experience perspective without being at all interested in the technology. I like Linux better, primarily, because the more I learn about it, the more I can do with it -- that is, it includes almost everything that I would want and if not, I can get and install something that does pretty easily and the learning curve for new apps is more shallow (in my experience). Linux is like a good statistical graphic (in the words of Edward Tufte:) -- it rewards closer inspection. I think Linux is at a tipping point, however, in that the gap you describe in your experience will be addressed by *someone* and Linux adoption on the desktop will skyrocket. I don't think it will happen the way some people predict, because the value proposition for the majority of the desktop market just won't be there to cause them to bare the pain of transition. Microsoft will address the problem by reducing financial barriers, addressing security concerns, etc... as well -- the business case for Linux on the desktop will not grow by the same magnitude that the useability of Linux on the desktop grows. <big snip> Thanks, Patrick

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RE: [SLE] OO: If you can make it, I can break it!
by Kai Ponte 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

> On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 21:23 -0500, Patrick Freeman wrote: > > > Excel in Windows on the same PC > > > opens instantly, even on cold boot. So does Lotus123 and the > > > spreadsheet app in Wordperfect Office (I never use it, can't remember > > > the name). > > > > 1) M$ spends a lot of time to make you think the system is up when it is > > not yet complete. To their credit, some functionality becomes available > > very early even though not everything is ready. Any app written with > > their development tools will likely take advantage of the same kind of > > early partial availability -- or see 2). > > I mentioned the other office suites specifically for this reason. Even > with the quickstarted (which should give OOo the same advantage), it > still takes a good while longer than any other office suite to start. > Heck, Word/Excel even starts faster through Crossover Office than > OpenOffice does. Which pretty much eliminates the OS aspect of the > argument, doesn't it? > > > 2) Windows loads a lot of bloat (even right in the operating system > > kernel) -- which means a lot of stuff, libraries, etc ... is pre-loaded > > and all you are doing is starting a thin interface to it. > Doesn't change the fact that OOo starts slow. I really don't care what > they do to make it faster. On my notebook OOo takes 8 seconds to > display the spash screen, and another 5 seconds from there to bring up > the Writer interface. That is unacceptable. Hans, that DOES seem slow. What version of SUSE/SuSE are you using? Also what are your general specs? As I mentioned in my email, OOo takes about five seconds to go from click to typing on Write. I think it is about the same on Calc. -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com linux - genuine windows replacement part

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Re: [SLE] Network Adapter
by Eric Hines 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

I wouldn't go with USRobotics for your SUSE box. I couldn't get theirs to run in a 9.3 setup, and their customer service was unresponsive. I wound up going with a Netgear NIC, and that dropped right in. I'd also stick with Netgear and Intel NICs for the Win98 box; although back when Win98 was current, the USRobotics NICs were reliable. At 12/28/05 16:42, RutePoint wrote: >nowadays almost whatever NIC you purchase that is less than 4 years old is >almost guaranteed to work > > >On 12/29/05, John Graddy <jgraddy(a)wimberley-tx.com> wrote: > > > > I am running SuSe 10 with a motherboard that has an on board 100Mb > > network > > adapter. (The on-board adapter that I have is listed by Tast as a "Holco > > Enterprises Co, Ltd/Shuttle nForce2 controller"). > > . > > I also have a system running SuSE 10 with a motherboard that has no > > network > > adapter and a PC running Windows 98 with a motherboard with no adapter. > > > > I would like to network these three systems into a wired network. Does > > anyone > > have a suggestion on a wired PCI adaptor card to use on the two systems > > with > > no on-board adapters? The hardware DB hasn't been much help. > > > > > > Thanks, > > John There is no nonsense so errant that it cannot be made the creed of the vast majority by adequate governmental action. --Bertrand Russell

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Network Adapter
by John Graddy 28 Dec '05

28 Dec '05

I am running SuSe 10 with a motherboard that has an on board 100Mb network adapter. (The on-board adapter that I have is listed by Tast as a "Holco Enterprises Co, Ltd/Shuttle nForce2 controller"). . I also have a system running SuSE 10 with a motherboard that has no network adapter and a PC running Windows 98 with a motherboard with no adapter. I would like to network these three systems into a wired network. Does anyone have a suggestion on a wired PCI adaptor card to use on the two systems with no on-board adapters? The hardware DB hasn't been much help. Thanks, John

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Re: [SLE] OO: If you can make it, I can break it!
by Kai Ponte 28 Dec '05

28 Dec '05

> On Wednesday 28 December 2005 07:29, Kai Ponte wrote: > Jeez... I wish I had your problems, either of you... > > I have an Athlon 1.1 GHz with 3/4 Gig of memory and 7600rpm hard disks. > Running SuSE 10.0, KDE 3.5. > > I just went to the "K" menu, "Office > Word Processor > OpenOffice.org > Writer". > > It took almost exactly 30 seconds for Writer to open (the splash screen > appeared at 12 seconds), finish populating the toolbars, and give me a > text-entry cursor in a new (empty) document. > If I had done the same with an existing small OOo document, it would > have taken an extra few seconds to get the document opened. > > If I had clicked the OpenOffice Suite instead, it would have been much > longer even than 30 seconds. That's because you're in Canada and it is really cold there, so the disk drives have to de-ice prior to spinning... ...do you have the OOo quickstarter launched? It REALLY helps out in the speed up of OOo times. It also doesn't really take away from starting KdE (which admittedgly takes about six hours). If you haven't, go to Geeko > System > Desktop Applet > OpenOffice.org Quickstarter. It should ask a few questions and you're off. Oh, and I just opened and excel spreadsheet in calc. I've got my 1.9 GHz Centrino laptop with 1 GB of RAM. It loaded the spreadsheet in eight seconds. (I am also ripping a Church CD in KAudioCreator, so that may have added to the time.) -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com linux - genuine windows replacement part

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Routing Enormous Traffic for Video Studio #2
by Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) 28 Dec '05

28 Dec '05

Hi, --- Sorry, small addition to post #1 Anyone had and experience (or just ideas) how to use Linux server in video studio for sharing RAID between 3 - 4 Power Mac workstations, taking into account enormous traffic generated by video capture and editing? One solution is to use Apple XRaid, XSan, and 2 XServe (1 pc will work, but 2 pcs are better, one is used for routing traffic, second for data transfer). Unfortunately, this is OUT of budget (Fibre Channel SAN system is not a solution for a project with strict budget). My idea is to use 3Ware Escalade Card (with 8x500 GB HDs formatted as 4 Level-0 RAIDs), installed into Linux box, and 4-port Gigabit Ethernet Card. The question is how to organize traffic routing between this Linux box and 4 PowerMacs (all of them have Gigabit Ethernet on-board), so each Mac could see every RAID, yet passing exclusively all traffic through defined Ethernet port on server (in order to avoid Ethernet link saturation and video frame dropout)? Additionally, all Macs should see each other. Of course, its possible to connect each Mac to own Ethernet port on Linux box, but in this case Macs will NOT see each other! Phew, complex and unusual, but that is a challenge :-)) Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s). ************************************************ *** with best regards *** Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) *** Mac, Linux, DTP, Programming Web Site *** *** http://snow.prohosting.com/guru4mac/ ************************************************

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Re: [SLE] yahoodsl
by Kai Ponte 28 Dec '05

28 Dec '05

> When I tried and set up my mother's yahoosbc dsl, not knowing what I was doing > I tried to do it with dhcp and my have set it in a loop for now she can not > got to Yahoo.com or anywhere on Yahoo. Even when I got there dns numbers and > entered them got there but then non of the links on the site work. Even when > I do a google search and find Yahoo there all links fail with cannot find > Yahoo. > I find with my mother's 9.2 system on Verizon/Yahoo DSL, she'll login and then it will be two or three minutes before the DHCP picks up and allows her to get out to any sites or check her email. Fortunately, she just leaves the system on for days at a time and it goes into a sleep mode, which maintains the connection. My guess is that the service takes a few mintues to grant a DHCP request and assign an IP addy. Dunno why. I have a static IP on my home system, so I never notice this. -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com linux - genuine windows replacement part

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Re: [SLE] OT: Tax software: Comments, votes
by Kai Ponte 28 Dec '05

28 Dec '05

> > > > Kevin (in Canada, where our tax man doesn't speak IRS, and neither > > > does our tax software) > > > > Count your blessings. > > Um, you haven't met our tax man. He's just as bad as yours. It's just > that he speaks a slightly different dialect. US Agent: Um, excuse me, but you forgot to sign your 1040. Canadian Agent: Um, excuse me, eh, but you forgot to sign your 5000-R, eh. -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com linux - genuine windows replacement part

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R: Re: [SLE] XP strange behaviour after SUSE install
by ferdybassi＠tin.it 28 Dec '05

28 Dec '05

Update to my problem. It is not a AVG problem, since I restored a ghost image of WIndows XP "clean" (IE: XP + drivers only) and it doesn't boot. Ghost and Drive Image tell me that my HD has some partitions with some errors on some sectors. They aren't hardware errors: following what Drive Image says, there is some mistmatch between LBA and CHS (what is it?) numbers. It offers to repair them. After repairing Windows boots again. NOTE: if I use MS-DOS fdisk I see a 57 GB HD, if I use a linux fdisk I see a 55 GB HD... Is it correct or do I have to tweak something? So my new question is: what does in the hell SUSE 10 do to partitions? I've read somewhere in the web that Fedora Core 4 too is affected by this... Is there any way to avoid this? Does it depend from my hard disk? PS: Someone told me that this is not the right place to discuss about that. I apologise I post my question here, but I though it was (and it is) somehow related to SUSE installation.. Ferdinando ----Messaggio originale---- Da: kevanf1(a)gmail.com Data: 28- dic-2005 6.44 PM A: "suse-linux-e(a)suse.com"<suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Ogg: Re: [SLE] XP strange behaviour after SUSE install Try booting into safe mode in Win XP and then making sure the auto update is off for AVG. I think it might be trying to update at system start up which can cause lock ups. I've used AVG for years on Win tins and it is the best bar none MS environment anti-virus software that you can get. So, with this in mind, I would hesitate at uninstalling AVG, it really is a great friend to have installed. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care this Xmas. PLEASE DON'T drink and drive. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse. com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com

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new to Suse ? [opensuse 10.0]
by Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT 28 Dec '05

28 Dec '05

hi all, i installed opensuse 10.0 for the first time. [new to suse but used to use linux distros for some time.] and have some questions to ask. and i wonder if there's something similar as apt-get of debian or yum of fedora ? and i skipped the package selection part during installation and now want to install openoffice. how can i achieve this ? help me please. regards, bye.

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postfix and Authenticated SMTP
by Andre Truter 28 Dec '05

28 Dec '05

I have a SuSE 9.3 server set up as a mail server. postfix is set up to relay mail with authenticated smtp. I run SUSE 10 on my laptop with Evolution as Mail client. If I set up Evolution to send mail via the SuSE 9.3 box with authentcated smtp, then it works fine. The 9.3 box accepts the mail and relay it. But, I have also set up postfix on the laptop to use the 9.3 box as a relay with AUTH-SMTP, but it seems that postfix on the laptop do not use that. It tries to pass the mail on without authentication. THe 9.3 box bounce the mail. If I set up postfix to relay via another mail server with AUTH-SMTP, it works. Any ideas what could be wrong? THanks -- Andre Truter | Software Engineer | Registered Linux user #185282 ICQ #40935899 | AIM: trusoftzaf | http://www.trusoft.za.org ~ A dinosaur is a salamander designed to Mil Spec ~

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yahoodsl
by Robert 28 Dec '05

28 Dec '05

Hi all When I tried and set up my mother's yahoosbc dsl, not knowing what I was doing I tried to do it with dhcp and my have set it in a loop for now she can not got to Yahoo.com or anywhere on Yahoo. Even when I got there dns numbers and entered them got there but then non of the links on the site work. Even when I do a google search and find Yahoo there all links fail with cannot find Yahoo. Thanks Robert

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RE: [SLE] Problems with initrd after mkinitrd
by Patrick Freeman 28 Dec '05

28 Dec '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Hartung [mailto:suselinux@cehartung.com] <snip> > As I'm sure you're aware ;-) roughly a minute after you posted this, > Patrick > wrote that he meant "sector 2082" and not "cylinder." (I'm not convinced, > however, that /he's/ convinced, so I'm afraid we'll both have to stay > tuned...) Ok so I looked -- that is cylinder 2082 (sorry about being a dolt but I have a tendancy to *fuzz* up that which I don't absolutely need to know after I've checked it out -- all I really knew, was that there should be no issues with BIOS access to the disk. I appreciate your gentle nudges, however, instead of calling me an idiot (which might have been warranted here). I am very interested in what you had said in another post about C,H,S being defaulted in the BIOS, I am going to look through the Intel docs on this to see if there is any reference. [after looking: this document: ftp://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7520bd2/sb/se7520 bd2_server_board_tps_r23.pdf on page 62 indicates that LBA is the default in the BIOS for devices that support it]. <snip> > I don't know that Patrick was actually /using/ fdisk, only that sectors > are a > natural metric for partitioning drives that use LBA. Yes, I was using fdisk, but I had long since memorized the number for scripts or hand editing, and hadn't looked at it in a while -- here is an 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' for the curious: Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 77520 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 1 2081 1048792+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/hda2 * 2082 77520 38021256 83 Linux <snip> > - One, less frequent, is the failure of some of the cloned drives to boot > immediately after they've been created and installed. He is presently > overcoming this 'flavor' of boot failure by reinstalling Grub. Correct. > - The second 'flavor,' which is occurring more frequently, is a failure to > boot after modifying the normally running system and creating a new initrd > (with mkinitrd.) IOW, these cloned drives have /not/ failed to boot, > initially, and the systems have been running normally for some time. Then, > after installing updates, he's run mkinitrd and the systems suddenly fail > to > boot. He is presently overcoming this 'flavor' by tarring up the drive > contents, repartitioning the drive and restoring the contents. Correct. > In both cases, the boot failures are occurring *only* on the drives that > have > been cloned. He is not experiencing either type of boot failure in those > systems where the drives have been installed raw and the systems have been > built and upgraded from scratch. I'm sorry -- I haven't been clear enough. The second flavor occurs on *all* drives after updates (where *all* means that the sample set can be of either type (fresh-install or imaged) and produces the same 30%ish hang rate after mkinitrd). I've sort of been thinking-out-loud in these posts -- and in the process have been a bit confusing -- I apologize. Some posts have made me realize I didn't think about some thing or another, and so I look back at it -- I think the response was to the thought that there might be a some kind of problem with BIOS accessing the drive so -- I assumed that fresh installs are going to write near the front of the disk first and subsequent updates would potentially get written elsewhere. Then I later remembered that the partition started at cylinder 2082 (but then confused cylinder and sector) and continued to be perplexed. So my state at that point was: I thought that the description of the problem (BIOS not able to read part of the disk where the initrd resides) fit very well with the behavior I was seeing, even though I *knew* that that particular problem *shouldn't* affect me and thus came to the same hypothesis that Carlos did, which was: That some potentially *unknown* BIOS problem that causes part of the disk to not be accessible might be the issue. The main behavior is intermittent, and while it could be hardware related (BTW WD recommended us not to use the drive because the drive was designed for a desktop (not server) duty cycle). Subsequent updates on drives that hung previously sometimes hang and sometimes do not. In my swamped-ness, I have looked now and again at *what* I was doing and could find no *reason*. The most recent hang was due to an updated xfs driver -- a minor modification of the source that we made in house and compiled on a different machine. The module loads fine on a running system and in this case was updated in the initrd without issue on 2 out of 5 machines. <snip> > But he is building new systems using contemporary components that support > Logical Block Addressing. As I understand it, these systems should have no > difficulty booting from any location on a 40GB disk. Exactly why I hadn't considered BIOS to be at issue. > I agree that the BIOS limitation you're alluding to is still a common > problem, > but I think it only concerns older hardware than what Patrick is dealing > with. I am increasingly confident that the error lies somewhere in the > realm > of drive address calculations and/or translations. What you state here (about calculations/translations), could explain the problem quite nicely (and actually, I think, is a great fit for what Carlos is saying). > That is /my/ educated guess. I am still thinking about ways to test the > drives > for proof, though. Any ideas? I have the used blocks ( -D ) output from debugreiserfs from both a working and a hung system. I think it has enough information to tell what part of the filesystem the initrd is in -- I am not sure if it indicates the LBA sectors. If it does, I will be able to glean that in a *very* tedious process. But this still wouldn't answer your question, I think, since it wouldn't tell us if the BIOS can properly address and read those blocks. So, I am curious, too (but I am also very grateful for the help I have already received and do not want to appear greedy). <snip> Thanks, Patrick

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