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User friendly distributions from linuxnewbie.org
by john＠jmtl.com 22 Dec '00

22 Dec '00

From: "john" <john(a)jmtl.com> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:21:16 -0000 Message-ID: <LPBBKPAICKJBFIBNNPJEGEGADBAA.john(a)jmtl.com> Subject: User friendly distributions from linuxnewbie.org The following link points to a heartfelt, but very well thought out cry for a rethink on how distributions are put together. It's a very good read. http://www.linuxnewbie.org/articles/jrigby.html <p>Personally I'd like to see SuSE put some more thought into their documentation. The basic format hasn't changed much from version to version and while most of the good stuff is there, I don't find it very intuitive. For example, why are the system upgrade instructions way up on page 419 - so far away from the rest of the installation instructions? Surely all installation components should be together in one place? A suggestion to SuSE - go beg, borrow, steal some of the doc sets from your competitors, like Compaq's Tru64, Solaris, MS Windows 2000. Examine the organization/structure, style/layout and then steal the best ideas from them all and do a new design. Then make is really obvious where customers can go to give feedback. John

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setting TOD for cron.daily and friends
by jimo＠eskimo.com 22 Dec '00

22 Dec '00

From: Jim Osborn <jimo(a)eskimo.com> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:34:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012212234.OAA03915(a)eskimo.com> Subject: setting TOD for cron.daily and friends The run-crons script does the magic that makes all the /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} directories function as their names imply. In my SuSE 6.3 installation, it's invoked in /etc/crontab by the following line: */15 * * * * root test -x /usr/lib/cron/run-crons && /usr/lib/cron/run-crons that is, every fifteen minutes. This script works with time differentials, doing the various directories' tasks X minutes or days after the last time they were done, as denoted by marker files in /var/cron/lastrun. I'd like the housekeeping chores of /etc/cron.daily/aaa_base to run at 3am, but I don't see a graceful way to establish that time of day as the base for run-crons, no setting in rc.config etc. As it is, the TOD is set to the last edit of /etc/crontab, and that's NOT what I want---housekeeping in mid-morning, or early evening, or whatever... I see two solutions: 1: comment out the /etc/crontab line, remove /var/cron/lastrun/* and schedule run-crons as an at job at 3am tomorrow. Then WITHIN 24hrs (!) uncomment the crontab line. Crude, inelegant but it should work. Might need to be done again after some kinds of system upgrades, or whatever. 2: hack the run-crons script to look for an init marker file and schedule a touch of this file as the at job. This would eliminate the need to spread the initialization process over two closely-spaced manual tasks. More work, but cleaner in the end. But surely others have dealt with this problem before; I must be reinventing the wheel here. How do others establish the time of day their cron.daily tasks run? TIA, Jim

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KMail in 2.01
by tbutler＠uninetsolutions.com 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

From: "Timothy R. Butler" <tbutler(a)uninetsolutions.com> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:38:19 -0600 Message-ID: <002c01c0696d$9d1ab9a0$0101a8c0@g4958> Subject: KMail in 2.01 Hi Everyone, I'm using the version of Kmail included in KDE 2.01 (1.1.99), and ran across a feature that I need that I can't seem to find. Before I send it as a "wishlist" item, I thought I'd see if it is indeed in there somewhere. What I'm looking for: My SMTP server requires authentication - is there anyway to tell Kmail this? Thanks, Tim Merry Christmas to you from Universal Networks! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler(a)uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" =====================

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RE: [SLE] Random lockups w/ KDE 2.0
by Cleary_Mike＠emc.com 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

Message-ID: <6335CBB2F69AD411AD3100D0B7BA38E370E228@CORPUSMX2> From: Cleary_Mike(a)emc.com Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:09:05 -0500 Subject: RE: [SLE] Random lockups w/ KDE 2.0 Thanks - I agree...I wish they would settle on one QT version and be done with it. Or at least get QT to the point where updates don't hose everything you've already compiled! :) Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Cleary UNIX Qualification and Commands Data General, a Division of EMC2 62 T.W. Alexander Dr. Research Triangle Park, NC mdcleary(a)dg-rtp.dg.com (919) 248-6033 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kreps [mailto:jerrykreps@jlkreps.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:33 PM To: Cleary, Mike Cc: 'suse-linux-e(a)suse.com' Subject: Re: [SLE] Random lockups w/ KDE 2.0 It's not hard to see that trouble is brewing when the /usr/lib/qt link is pointing to qt-1.45 and an app requires qt-2.x . Those were the problems I ran into and why I scrubbed all qt and kde off my box and reintalled qt-2.2.2 and KDE2.0.1 from SuSE's site. Since doing that I've been rock solid. I had to give up some stuff for a while. KDevelop won't run without qt-1.45. Even KDevelop 2.x !!! I was disappointed but I'll wait till they come to their senses and build on only the latest qt version... QCad also doesn't work under KDE 2.x with qt-2.x. Neither does BibleTime. JLK On Tuesday 19 December 2000 07:41, Cleary, Mike wrote: > Thanks - I kinda suspected I had a problem w/ QT. I have > too many versions installed - version 1.45 for KDE 1.2, version > 2.1.1 for the Qtez development package, and 2.2.x (?) for KDE 2.0. > Even though I have installed them in separate directories, and only > reset environment variables when necessary (like running Qtez), I > had a feeling I was just digging myself a big hole to fall into... > I guess it's time to clean house :). > > Thanks again, > > Mike >------- > > Mike, > > When I installed KDE 2.0 I decided beforehand to strip off KDE1.x. > I also removed qt-1.45 and cleared on the env vars. > > Then I installed Qt-2.2.2 with full graphic support and installed > KDE 2.0 using SuSE's ftp files and install sh. KDE 2.0 has been > rock stable for me. I don't recall a single crash or lockup while > using it. I, too, have downloaded KDE 2.0.1 but didn't have > time to install them. But, since KDE has announced yet another > update I'll probably bypass KDE 2.0.1 and try KDE 2.1. > > Jerry > > On Monday 18 December 2000 10:23, Cleary_Mike(a)emc.com wrote: > > Ever since I installed KDE 2.0 (NOT 2.01) I have been > > experiencing random system lockups. By "lockup" I mean that I > > can do NOTHING. I get no response from mouse or keyboard - I have > > to reboot the machine. I have uninstalled & reinstalled KDE 2.0 > > (including the associated QT packages) & it's still happening. > > Has anyone seen this behavior before? I have downloaded all the > > KDE 2.01 packages but haven't had time to upgrade. I'm not sure > > this will make any difference anyway. The lockups occur whether > > I'm in KDE 2.0 or KDE 1.2. My next step was to remove KDE 2.0 > > and just see if 1.2 runs OK for awhile. Any other ideas, or > > suggestions as to what to look at would be appreciated! > > > > TIA, > > > > Mike > > > >------- -- Scientific theories, according to Sir Karl Popper, can be "falsified," or proven wrong, by experiment. Unscientific theories -Marxist dialectical history and Freudian psychology were Popper's favorites- are formed in such a way that they cannot be falsified by data.

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Vacation - beta on CVS
by lists＠tcob1.net 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

From: "Sean Rima" <lists(a)tcob1.net> Message-ID: <91u2aq$m98$1(a)tcob1.net> Date: Thursday, 21 Dec 2000 23:04:58 +000 Subject: Vacation - beta on CVS Originally to: All I have updated the CVS version of Vacation which includes a couple of new features. One of them is a patch that I recieved which allows for the old .forward.msg to be saved. The current CVS- tarball can be obtained at: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cvstarballs/vacation-cvsroot.tar.gz Sean -- GNUPG ID 92B9D0CF | Fidonet: 2:263/950 ICQ: 679813 | Homepage: http://www.tcob1.net Linux User: #124682 | My last power cut was 3d, 5h and 21m ago ...The three Rs of Microsoft support: Retry, Reboot, Reinstall.

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XFree86 4.02
by fm＠cupserv.org 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

Message-ID: <3A427319.F1EDB5DB(a)cupserv.org> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:16:09 -0500 From: "Fred A. Miller" <fm(a)cupserv.org> Subject: XFree86 4.02 Lenz or Ben....can you tell us when you'll have a d'l of XFree 4.02? Thanks! Fred -- ----/ / _ Fred A. Miller ---/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Systems Administrator --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Cornell Univ. Press Services -/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ fm(a)cupserv.org

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"Itanium - The next big leap for Linux"
by fm＠cupserv.org 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

Message-ID: <3A426FBA.311E7F02(a)cupserv.org> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:01:46 -0500 From: "Fred A. Miller" <fm(a)cupserv.org> Subject: "Itanium - The next big leap for Linux" "Itanium - The next big leap for Linux" http://www.freeos.com/articles/2955/ -- ----/ / _ Fred A. Miller ---/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Systems Administrator --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Cornell Univ. Press Services -/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ fm(a)cupserv.org

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Konqueror freezes on this URL
by fxf＠skynet.be 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

Message-ID: <3A422002.2E22A0C3(a)skynet.be> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:21:38 +0100 From: fx Fraipont <fxf(a)skynet.be> Subject: Konqueror freezes on this URL I tried the postbank.nl Url , and it worked fine on my computer.. Could you guys make sure that https://www.cger.be/CGER_WebBanking/secure/INDEXAPPLET.HTM does not work? It freezes Konqueror and Netscape 6, but works fine on Nestace 4.74. Thanks for your feedback. fx -- ______________________ Courtesy of SuSE Linux Kernel 2.2.17 (who Kares?)

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Anyone tried the Xig Radeon X server yet?
by Chris.Smith＠raytheon.co.uk 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

Message-Id: <OFB4B413D1.F6D9C57E-ON802569BC.003E6485(a)raytheon.co.uk> From: Chris.Smith(a)raytheon.co.uk Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:22:16 +0000 Subject: Anyone tried the Xig Radeon X server yet? Hi, Has anyone tried the Xig Radeon X server yet? http://www.xig.com/ - Chris.

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disk error -- what to do?
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

From: James (Jim) Hatridge <hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:38:16 +0100 Message-Id: <00122117442000.00843@Tenn> Subject: disk error -- what to do? Hi all... I've got a 1.6gb hard disk just sitting here. When I do a e2fsck on it after a hard reboot I get 3 or 4 short reads. (Sorry I don't have the exact error before me.) Is there anyway I can reformat this disk and get rid of this problem? There's no data on it I want and if I can reformat and get at least part of it to work it would be a great help. Thanks for you help! -- Jim Hatridge hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de Proud Linux User #88484 Owner -- beowulf-newbie list Don't blame me I voted for Harry Browne! www.lp.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim's Beowulf Project Looking for giveaway computers and parts I need it all! Email Jim for details on how you can help build a poor man's super computer.

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