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by fountai＠hursley.ibm.com 30 Jun '99

30 Jun '99

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[SuSE Linux] Xcdroast problem
by josef.demergis＠virgin.net 30 Jun '99

30 Jun '99

Hi! I have been trying to convince xcdroast to recognize both my cd drives but to no avail. I have two ide hard disks hda (ms) and hdc (linux ) and two cdrom drives hdb (HP cdwriter 8110) and hdd (IDE cdrom). When I am trying to configure xcdroast in the ide/scsi list I only get the two hard disks and the hdb cdwriter as the cdrom that is supposed to do thw reading in the whole process. When I am booting the kernel recognises ALL my ide devices and i also have simulated scsi support built into the kernel as required by xcdroast. My fstab file looks like this: /dev/hdc2 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hdc3 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hdc1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdd /cdrom iso9660 ro,noauto,user 0 0 /dev/fd0 /floppy auto noauto,user 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts defaults 0 0 # End of YaST-generated fstab lines I tried installing a line of /dev/hdb /cdrom iso9660 rw,noauto, user 0 0 but xcdroast would still not find my hdd cdrom. I presume yast is no good in adding my other cdrom drive since it can only change the fstab on whtehr hdd or hdb will be the installation medium. Could anybody possibly offer any solutions -pointers to my problem -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Strange performance problem
by cthulhu34＠hotmail.com 30 Jun '99

30 Jun '99

Hi, I've noticed something since I've been using Linux and I wondered if anyone might have an idea as to why this happens. First off, I have an Intel PR440FX dual Pentium Pro board with a single Pentium Pro 180, 64 megs of ECC EDO, Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100 on board, CS4236 Sound on board, Adaptec 7880UW on board, two Quantum 7200 RPM 2.1 gig drives, Matrox Mystique 2meg, Voodoo2 12 meg, a Mitsumi 16x IDE cd-rom, and a 28.8 external modem. I believe Askey made the modem. Anyhow, the situation is this... I have several CDs full of MP3's I have ripped. I like to load up x11amp and select the whole CD as a single playlist and just let the music go for about 8-10 hours on random play. I've noticed that if I'm dialed into my ISP, all modem activity comes to a near complete halt. If I stop x11amp, the modem activity will pick right up and resume with no problems. If I copy a few hundred megs of MP3's to one of my drives and play them from there, that does not impact modem activity at all. The modem activity only halts if I'm playing MP3's off of the CD-Rom drive. If I play a regular audio CD, there are no problems and if I play MP3's off of one of the hard drives, there are no problems. I've overclocked my processor to run at 233mhz and I've disabled all of the visualization options with X11amp. I also downloaded and compiled the latest version of KMP3. This created the same problem. I run KPM in KDE to see what CPU activity and memory usage is like. CPU usage never goes above 5% and I still have a couple of megs of RAM free. I've had this happen with RedHat 5.2 and SuSE 6.1 now. Initially, I had thought it might be a problem with the 2.0.36 kernel with RH 5.2 And, as much as it hurts me to say it, this does not happen in Windows 98. If I boot into Win98, connect to the net, and play MP3's off the same CD in Winamp, there are no problems. Anyone have an idea what could be causing this and if there is anything I can do to fix it? Thanks Darin - cthulhu34(a)hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit <A HREF="http://www.msn.com"><A HREF="http://www.msn.com</A">http://www.msn.com</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Competition keeps Linux lean
by fmiller＠lightlink.com 30 Jun '99

30 Jun '99

<PRE> <A HREF="http://linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-06/lw-06-vcontrol_4.html?06-28"><A HREF="http://linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-06/lw-06-vcontrol_4.html?06-28</A">http://linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-06/lw-06-vcontrol_4.html?06-28</A</A>> ____________ In self-defense, all Microsoft Office attachments are refused! 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reasons he thinks competition is the best thing that ever happened to Linux -- and why Linux's competitive environment is the worst thing that ever happened to Microsoft -- in this week's <STRONG>Version Control</STRONG>. (2,000 words)</EM> </BLOCKQUOTE> <STRONG>By <A HREF="mailto:joe.barr@linuxworld.com">Joe Barr</A></STRONG> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD BGCOLOR="#FFCC66"><IMG border="0" width="1" height="4" SRC="/linuxworld/icons/dot_clear.gif" ALT=""></TD> </TR> </TABLE> <BR>  <IMG ALIGN="LEFT" width="12" height="29" SRC="/linuxworld/abcs/I.gif" ALT="I">f you hang around Linux people for very long, you're going to hear some bickering about whose widget has the best kung fu: "My</em> distribution will always be superior to yours!"; "Your windows manager is <em>lame!</em>"; "You use what</EM> for an editor?" Name a topic and it's up for debate. That's just the way it is. Linux people have opinions of their own and they aren't known for being shy about expressing themselves. Which can get a little disheartening if you worry, as many do, about not presenting a united front against the forces of the Windows juggernaut. But it's only disheartening until you understand that the noise you're hearing in these debates is the victory bell, the secret sauce, the very reason Linux is gaining on (and in some cases, overtaking) that once invincible, still heavily entrenched, but now no longer cool OS from Redmond. It's called competition. The only competition Microsoft has seen in recent years has been the trivial feuding between the Windows 9x and Windows NT development groups. If you look closely at the shipping versions, that frail, half-hearted competition hasn't helped either platform very much. Windows 9x is still a hybrid GUI riding a horse called the DMM (dangerous memory model). Windows NT's stability peaked at release 3.51. Each subsequent release has become more of a kludge and less robust. Windows 2000 promises more of the same. But look what's happening with the Linux operating system. Look at the steady increase in sophistication, power, and marketshare, not to mention platforms, applications, and distributions. Why? You got it, bucko: competition. Let's start at the top. Or at the bottom, as it were: the kernel is the basis of the Linux operating system. If you want to do some kernel hacking to add a fix or improvement or polish to the Linux kernel, fine. But your code won't be automatically accepted and made a part of the next kernel release. That's an honor. And that's where the element of competition comes in.  <table cellpadding="15" hspace="8" vspace="8" align="left" border="0"> <tr> <td> <center> <strong> <font color="#339900" size="+1" face="Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif"> The ruthless efficiency <BR> of this competition <BR> is reflected not only <BR> in the speed and power <BR> of Linux itself, but in <BR> the improvements seen <BR> in each new release. <BR> </font> </strong></center> </td></tr> </table>  Linux kernel code is administered on something like a feudal basis. Good King Linus sits at the throne and "owns" the bulk of the code. Various other parts of the kernel are "owned" by liege lords. Contributed hacks are funneled to the appropriate noble and either axed or blessed for inclusion. The ruthless efficiency of this competition is reflected not only in the speed and power of Linux itself, but in the improvements seen in each new release. Now consider the Windows operating system. Competition is part of the Windows development process as well, but it's of a different sort. For one thing, it's all of one house -- a single house modeled after a cathedral. Here, the word cathedral</em> is used not in a spiritual sense, mind you, but in the sense described by Eric S. Raymond in his watershed essay "The Cathedral and the Bazaar." Moreover, competition in the house of Windows is a competition of evil ideas, malignant marketing, and monopoly management. Quality of the code isn't important. Instead, the holy grail -- marketshare and money -- is reached by embracing competitive innovations, thereby extending the Microsoft monopoly and eventually annihilating the competition. In the Linux world, competition doesn't begin and end at the kernel. It extends to every aspect of distribution, packaging, and support. It extends to Linux applications, too, and (as we're seeing more and more these days) on down to the tools used to develop those applications. This spirited competition also extends to those of us writing about Linux. Not just in e-zines and magazines, but in newspapers and books as well. There is, for example, tremendous competition for all the eyeballs currently reading this column. As a reader posted in response to a recent column, Red Hat isn't Linux. Amen and amen, brother! Neither is Debian. Or SuSE. Or TurboLinux. Or Slackware. Or Caldera. Or Stampede. Or any other distribution. And all of us in the Linux community reap the benefits of that situation. You don't care for the commercial distributions? Fine. Thanks to the open market that surrounds open software, you can choose not to support any of them. You prefer a commercial distribution? Great. You have your choice of a number of fine ones. Or you can simply download the Linux source code and create your own. It's all good. Whatever floats your boat. Personally, I want to see Linux continue to gain marketshare, both in the server world and on the desktop. Unless people and firms are able to achieve commercial success with open source software in general (and Linux in particular), the ceiling will remain far too low for my tastes. Don't get me wrong. I like the idea of free and/or open software. I love what it has given us in terms of operating systems, applications, and tools. The energy and devotion that produced those gifts simply do not exist in the commercial world. But it's the synergy between the bazaar and the cathedral that will carry us all to that mythical marketing plateau known as the next level. Competition is an important element of that synergy. As Linux has begun its migration from server to desktop over the past year or two, it has gotten a tremendous boost from the well-publicized, oft-debated competition between KDE and GNOME, each of which is vying for the title of ultimate Linux desktop environment. Yes, there have been some spirited debates, some untoward comments, some amount of wasted energy by advocates of both camps. But the algebraic result, the net of the competition, has been a huge positive. After all is said and done, competition has been a boon to the morph of Linux from a CLI geektop to a modern user's desktop. I think most users, like me, would buy Linux applications (like Quake II or WordPerfect or CodeWarrior) even if they weren't available under the terms of a free or open source license. Likewise, we'll buy commercial offerings when it makes sense to do so -- that is, when a commercial version offers enough additional value over a competing free or open source offering. By the same token, vendors attempting to peddle Linux wares that are of doubtful quality, or that are only as good as open source equivalents, are going to find it very hard to make a dollar. We, the Linux community, win in either case. Competition between the free and/or open software world and the commercial software world is just as real, just as vital, and just as beneficial to the Linux community as is competition in any marketplace. Microsoft has its second monopoly in office suites. Microsoft owns this market just as it owns the market for desktop operating systems. In the domain of Microsoft Office, competition</em> is no longer a dirty word in Redmond, because it just doesn't exist. As a result, prices go up. Quality goes down. And 'nobody's getting fat 'cept Mama Cass.' Or in this case, Bill Gates's bank account. In the Linux free market (free,</em> in the sense that there are many stalls in the bazaar and you're free to pick the one you want to shop at), we've already seen the benefits of competition for office suites. And we will continue to see such benefits as StarOffice and Applixware continue to mature. The good news is, there's more competition in the works. KOffice is coming, as is Corel's WordPerfect Office 2000. There will be others as well. Just as Linux has already surpassed Windows in the goodness of its kernel, competition makes it inevitable that the same thing will happen among office suites. The dynamics of competition produce superior products -- and Linux users will reap the benefits. Look at what's happened in the database systems arena over the past year. Why have Oracle, Sybase, IBM, and others jumped on the Linux bandwagon? I think we have to give the commercial success of Red Hat some credit for this sudden allegiance. The scent of money attracts more money. And this shift isn't limited to the server-applications arena, either. Firms from the Windows and Mac markets are beginning to migrate as well. Firms like Photodex, for example, which is bringing CompuPic to Linux this year. <FONT SIZE="+1"><STRONG>If you build it, they will come</STRONG></FONT><BR> One vital area must be addressed before Linux can make its move to the next level: development tools. Developers will soon be coming to Linux from Microsoft Windows, from the Mac, and from elsewhere in Unix. As this happens, demand for the kinds of tools provided by, oh, let's say Microsoft's Visual C++ and its cousins, will grow. IDEs are the eye of the storm for the near future. And those who provide the shortest ramp-up time for Visual C++ programmers to start producing Linux applications will win the lion's share of the market. The good news is, the process is happening as we speak. We've already seen Metrowerks announce and launch CodeWarrior, its first development platform for Linux. Others, from both the free/open source world and the commercial world, are following suit. And that's a good thing, because application development tools are critical to Linux's future -- not in terms of who wins or who loses, but in terms of the benefit of the process.  <table cellpadding="15" hspace="8" vspace="8" align="right" border="0"> <tr> <td> <center> <strong> <font color="#339900" size="+1" face="Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif"> Looking at market competition <BR> in terms of <BR> 'they must die so we can thrive' <BR> is a hangover <BR> of the Microsoft era. <BR> </font> </strong></center> </td></tr> </table>  In fact, looking at market competition in terms of "they must die so we can thrive" is a hangover of the Microsoft era. It is the antithesis to the meme that competition is good. Redneck Software has just announced an open source project for application development called Moonshine. Redneck Software's stated purpose is "to bring software application development tools to Linux." Metrowerks already had open source competition for its IDE; now it has more. On the same day that Redneck announced Moonshine, KDE announced a new release of KDevelop: "a C++ development environment which makes the creation and development of GNU Standard Applications an easy task even for beginners." Yesterday, June 22, Cygnus officially announced Code Fusion, its entry in the parade of IDEs. Cygnus hopes to translate its guardianship of open source compilers into commercial leadership in the field. The buzz on the street is that there will be several more commercial IDE offerings appearing over the next few months. Each additional tool will open the door for more developers. More developers will mean more applications. More apps will mean more competition. All to the benefit of consumers everywhere.  <table cellpadding="15" hspace="8" vspace="8" align="left" border="0"> <tr> <td> <center> <strong> <font color="#339900" size="+1" face="Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif"> Some people scoff <BR> when I say that <BR> Bill Gates <BR> is afraid of competition. <BR> </font> </strong></center> </td></tr> </table>  Some people scoff when I say that Bill Gates is afraid of competition. They believe he's simply ultracompetitive. That's not the way I see it. If you were competing against Bill Gates in a track meet, he would sabotage your starting blocks, bribe the officials, loosen the cleats in your shoes, use a trick count for the start, and do anything and everything else he could think of to avoid having the outcome determined by virtue of performance on the field. I don't call that competitive. I call it cowardly. Microsoft has managed to create, maintain, and extend a competition-free zone for the Microsoft Windows operating system and for its key applications. In the short term, it's hard to argue with the results reflected in the bottom line. But just as lack of competition has been the reason for the perennial success of Windows, it is also the cause of its downfall. Without the benefits of real competition, Windows has grown fat, short of breath, and weak on staying power. Linux is only now beginning to flex its muscle. I know which horse I want to carry me into the new millennium. What about you? <IMG HEIGHT="8" WIDTH="8" SRC="/linuxworld/icons/dingbat.gif"><P ALIGN="CENTER"> <STRONG><A HREF="news://forum.linuxworld.com/linuxworld.forums.articles.1999-06-vcontrol_4">Discuss this article in the LinuxWorld forums</A></STRONG> (34 postings)<BR> (Read our <A HREF="/forumsfaq.html">forums FAQ</A> to learn more.) </P> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="0" CELLSPACING="3" WIDTH="100%"> <TR> <TD BGCOLOR="#000000"><IMG WIDTH="1" HEIGHT="2" SRC="/linuxworld/icons/dot_clear.gif" ALT=""></TD> </TR> <TR> <TD ALIGN="CENTER" BGCOLOR="#FFFF66"> <font face="Arial,Helvetica,Sans-serif"> <strong> Sign up for <A HREF="/linuxworld/common/lw-subscribe.html">FREE E-mail Alerts</A> </strong> </font> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD BGCOLOR="#000000"><IMG WIDTH="1" HEIGHT="2" SRC="/linuxworld/icons/dot_clear.gif" ALT=""></TD> </TR> </TABLE><P> <STRONG>About the author</STRONG><BR> <IMG ALIGN="LEFT" HSPACE="5" WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="80" SRC="/linuxworld/images/a-barr.jpg" ALT="Joe Barr"> Joe Barr is a software professional, writer, and self-proclaimed dweeb. He has been working in the industry since 1974 as a programmer, analyst, consultant, and manager. In 1994 he began writing a monthly column called Papa Joe's Dweebspeak Primer in Austin, TX's Tech Connected magazine. 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[SuSE Linux] firewall
by tsummerfelt1＠home.com 30 Jun '99

30 Jun '99

i am getting these (and other similar lines in my /var/log/messags file...i'm assuming it's the firewall logging them (i have all my ipchains set to logging) this is all one line of course: Jun 29 15:42:41 localhost kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=6 205.189.48.3:29873 24.226.18.124:113 L=44 S=0x00 I=47007 F=0x0000 T=51 SYN (#37) how do i know which port was being used? -- *-------------------------------------- | |'you want a toe? i can get you a toe.' | *----------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] 6.0 -> 6.1: eth0 not supported & libjpeg missing in
by jon_pennington＠excite.com 30 Jun '99

30 Jun '99

On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:09:24 +0200, Henning wrote: > > Troy Denkinger wrote: > > > One other minor annoyance post update is that I get an error stating libjpeg.so.62 can't be found when I try to start Enlightenment. Of course, libjpeg.so.62 isn't there - I can only assume it got blown away during the update. I know this library exists, but I just don't know in which package. I'll keep looking for it. > > It's jpeh.rpm in series gra1 That's interesting and useful, but here's another one for you... When I installed KDE 1.1.1, I already had libjpeg.so.62 installed. (Note: I've had all of this working before) I tried to start KDE, and it reported that it could not locate libjpeg.so.6, so I symlinked libjpeg.so.6 to libjpeg.so.62. Everything seemed to run normally until I started creating some application links on my desktop. When I try to set the icon for the new application, kfm crashes. The console reports that kfm was expecting 61, found 62, and then gave up (crash). I believe that I have the source for 61, so compiling it won't be any trouble, but how can I get both libraries to coexist? -=|JP|=- (Resident GNUbie) Jon Pennington | SuSE Linux 6.0 jon_pennington(a)excite.com | Kernel 2.2.10 Kansas City, Missouri, USA | K6-2 350 _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at <A HREF="http://mail.excite.com/"><A HREF="http://mail.excite.com/</A">http://mail.excite.com/</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] overclocking
by jon_pennington＠excite.com 30 Jun '99

30 Jun '99

On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:51:08 -0500, Brian Kellogg wrote: > > How do I overclock my riva tnt agp card in Linux? This looks familiar...Look for messages titled Re:[SuSE Linux] 2 NICs. -=|JP|=- (Resident GNUbie) Jon Pennington | SuSE Linux 6.0 jon_pennington(a)excite.com | Kernel 2.2.10 Kansas City, Missouri, USA | K6-2 350 _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at <A HREF="http://mail.excite.com/"><A HREF="http://mail.excite.com/</A">http://mail.excite.com/</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] 2 easy questions
by jon_pennington＠excite.com 30 Jun '99

30 Jun '99

On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:47:50 +0100, Derek wrote: > > I stick to my original points: > > The English manual is crap; I don't use manuals unless I get into real trouble, and even at that, I never use printed material. I find that if it's old enough to be printed, it's too old to be useful. I realize the emotional security of having printed text, but I believe that their value is grossly overrated. > YaST didn't offer to restart my lpd when it needed to, it didn't help me set up my X Server, Yes it did (X Server). It's under System Administration. As far as lpd, I could have sworn that SuSEconfig does that...I'm probably wrong. > and I couldn't find XEmacs when I wanted it; Point taken. Unfortunately, when the distro is so large that it needs five CDs to contain it, things get misplaced. I keep an index of the full names directory structure on all of the discs handy to avoid digging through all of the discs for package-so-obscure-0.83-4.rpm. > Incompatible RPMs across Linux distros are a problem. Sort of. If you look at the directory structures, SuSE is similar to Slackware and Debian (arguably the *true* leaders in the arena of useful innovation). Red Hat and Caldera are the other two heavy-hitters, and they don't even use common directory structure between each other. What this means is that if you are looking at well-made DEB, SLP, or scripted TGZ packages, they usually work fine with SuSE. OTOH, you can't use a Red Hat RPM on a Caldera system any easier than you can use a Caldera RPM on a SuSE system. Strictly speaking, SuSE has erred on the side of common good. > If these go down a 'user problems', OK. In that case SuSE should state on the box which users their distribution is aimed at so I'm fully informed and can opt for another one if SuSE is not aimed at me. I'm not going to criticize you on your choice of distribution. I don't think I'd recommend SuSE to a beginner, either. SuSE is very well-engineered, but that doesn't mean it's easy. You have to look at the big picture. You have to ask yourself questions like "Is this distribution still going to suit my needs in nine months?" Caldera is flashy and quick, but there is no flexibility in it's design or implementation. Red Hat is good for beginner-ish people, but I find it to be unsatisfactory in quality. I like Slackware, but it's fairly high-maintanence in operation, and I frankly don't want to spend that much time keeping my machine healthy. (If you didn't like the fact that lpd didn't restart, you'll *hate* Slackware) That's my opinion. Opinions are like assholes; everyone's got one and they all stink (pardon my vulgarity). I believe that everyone is entitled to thier opinion, though (American Ideals are for the birds, eh?). I think that SuSE is a fine distribution, and I'll stay with SuSE for at least as long as Stampede is still under development, and SuSE will doubtlessly stay installed on my significant other's machine (she doesn't like computers anyway, but I refuse to let her get occustomed to Windows :) ). -=|JP|=- (Resident GNUbie) Jon Pennington | SuSE Linux 6.0 jon_pennington(a)excite.com | Kernel 2.2.10 Kansas City, Missouri, USA | K6-2 350 _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at <A HREF="http://mail.excite.com/"><A HREF="http://mail.excite.com/</A">http://mail.excite.com/</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] 2 NICs
by patrick＠kirks.net 30 Jun '99

30 Jun '99

Hi all, I just installed suse 6.1 on a box with an Accton PnP ISA card using io=300 and a Realtek 8029 PCI card. The Accton card works fine. The installation of the PCI card has failed. When I try to change it with YAST, I get no list of modules, eg NE 2000 PCI which is I think the one I need. Questions: 1. How do you install the second NIC card? 2. Is the NE 2000 PCI module the one I need? All help appreciated. Thanks in advance. Patrick Wise Chinese Proverb: "If tired of computer winning at chess, try it at kick-boxing instead" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Sybase
by stevep＠bash.linux-shell.net 30 Jun '99

30 Jun '99

Hi, Could someone please recap briefly what needs to be done to get sybase working? I don't need verbose instructions, just a few hints. I know I need a good book, but until then... Also, maybe I was just overlooking it, but where is the sybase doc on the SuSE 6.1 install? I have /opt/sybase, but I don't see much for doc. Thanks. ------------------------------------ Steve Pauly (281) 496-8041 Global Marine Drilling Co. stevep(a)linux-shell.net steve.pauly(a)glm.com SuSE 6.1 2.2.10 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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