January 1999 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [SuSE Linux] Fwd: Re: RPM (was gtk+)
by sbronson＠opentv.com 18 Jan '99

18 Jan '99

> You spent a lot of time learning it, so I shouldn't > bad mouth them, I should happily adopt the system. Nobody is saying you MUST use RPMs, but I do see them pointing out where some mistaken things were said regarding the use of RPMs. You're free to use whatever install method you like. Gotta love Linux. > Anyways, most of the > Redhat rpm's won't work on Suse, even after Suse moves to glibc. > So most of us will probably be using redhat source rpm's anyhow, > which is about the same as a tarball download. So I'm > not being "forced" into anything. SuSE adopted the RPM format for their whole system. This is, IMO, a good thing. Reduces the amount of time I need to install and maintain my systems. However, in doing so, I believe that SuSE has an obligation to keep their RPMs up to date. Currently, they are not. Therefore, I have resorted to installing new software using Red Hat RPMs. I could install the tarballs, of course, but I find that installing RH RPMs on SuSE is easier (most of the time it just involves a symlink or two). I find this lack of attention from SuSE a little frightening. I've been using rufus.w3.org since SuSE says nothing about new RPMs (only bug fixes) on their web site, and most of the SuSE RPMs there are already out of date. > > I guess time will tell. How long do you think it will > be before warnings are issued about some rpm that contains > a trojan? There have already been tarball trojans. Nobody reads every line of source before they make install. Few people even scour the makefile. As always, caveat installer. My guess is that PGP/MD5-verified RPMs from Red Hat and SuSE will never have trojans--both companies are very good about the software they pick. If they do mistakenly ship a trojan, you can bet their customers will hear about it and the fix very quickly. - Scott - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] X questions
by myfish＠dial.pipex.com 18 Jan '99

18 Jan '99

Scott Bronson wrote: > > Not from the terminal you can't. You're opening the file in a text > editor? > > - Scott Ok then,exactly,what application are you using to do your text editing ?. Most stuff can be done in X the way i said,but if you are using these massive text files in term windows,then why ?. you could be selective and use sed,or grep and pipe them into another file like that,and use bash`s ctr`l & r reverse search mode to keep on top of re-typing loads of frequenty used commands. -- Myfish. Email myfish(a)dial.pipex.com 0 0 o `---' - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] two-box network: routing
by jimo＠eskimo.com 18 Jan '99

18 Jan '99

I'm trying to impliment the simplest possible home-office network, one which must be so common that this note is a FAQ, but I don't find the answer in the book, so I'll ask here, where so many good answers have come from. This first question concerns routing. I'll worry about NIS/NFS in another note. Here's /etc/hosts, and /etc/networks, identical on both machines: #/etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.81.38 big-dog.dogswood.com big-dog 192.168.81.39 old-dog.dogswood.com old-dog #/etc/networks: loopback 127.0.0.0 localnet 192.168.81.0 First question: for this simple situation, what files beyond /etc/{hosts,networks,route.conf} do I need to edit, beyond what's done in rc.config? /etc/{host.conf,resolv.conf,yp.conf} all seem to be generated by SuSEconfig. Next question: what's the preferred setup of /etc/route.conf? My best guess so far is: #/etc/route.conf for big-dog: 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 lo 192.168.81.38 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 eth0 192.168.81.39 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 eth0 default 192.168.81.38 When I boot, route -n shows: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.81.38 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.81.39 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 1 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 dummy0 Why do I have to explicitly assign eth0 to old-dog on big-dog (line 3 of /etc/route.conf)? Without it, the Iface is dummy0, and the two machines can't ping. #/etc/route.conf for old-dog: 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 lo 192.168.81.39 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 eth0 192.168.81.38 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 eth0 default 192.168.81.39 When I boot, route -n shows: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.81.39 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.81.38 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 1 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 Why is eth0 assigned as Iface for 0.0.0.0? Shouldn't it be dummy0? Here, I seem to be able to get away with a line: 192.168.81.38 192.168.81.39 255.255.255.255 as though 192.168.81.39 is a "gateway" to big-dog. In either case the routing table is the same. I have SETUPDUMMYDEV="yes" in rc.config on both machines. When I shut down routing, I get this: big-dog: Shutting down routing. SIOCDELRT: No such process Error while excuting: /sbin/route del default gw 192.168.81.38 and the routing table looks like: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 dummy0 old-dog: Shutting down routing. SIOCDELRT: No such process Error while excuting: /sbin/route del default gw 192.168.81.39 and the routing table looks like: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 Surely I shouldn't get those error messages? This setup sort of works, the two machines can ping, but I can't believe it's right, and I'm really, really uncomfortable not understanding how these entries are supposed to be done, and getting errors as above. What's the correct setup? The Linux Network Administrator's Guide gives examples of manually invoking route, and maybe doing that would clear up these problems, but I don't see any graceful place to do that invocation at bootup. Is that what I should be exploring? With all the setup stuff in SuSE 5.3, I'd think I could at least network two machines without mucking about in special local init scripts, but maybe not? Thanks in advance for any insights, jimo(a)eskimo.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] MS intellimouse wheel and Netscape
by egretlures＠kricket.net 18 Jan '99

18 Jan '99

I have just noticed a strange occurance that tries to locate a server with the name of my ISP password. SuSE 5.3 and Netscape 4.5 as user. It just happening that I spun the wheel on the mouse out of habit on Netscape and it began a search for an url. The error message came back that it could not locate server (password) try again. I ended Netscape and restarted and experienced the same thing. On one occasion an url came up that was a Netscape site with the password in lowercase appended to the end. It would seem that this is a security violation. I am curious if this is occuring on anyone elses installation. TIA Henry - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] S.u.S.E. Linux Office Suite at Bookstores
by hsundt＠uswest.net 18 Jan '99

18 Jan '99

S.u.S.E. Linux Office Suite at Bookstores There is a new Borders Bookstore in Eugene Oregon. It has a large, I mean floor to top five shelf. section on Linux. The S.u.S.E. Linux Office Suite as well as Red Hat Linux and Power Tools and Caldera's Open Linux Distributions. The "Beast" Books by O'Reilly are there too, but not as many as at Powell's in Portland, of course. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Serious problem-Diald is completely HOSED!
by dizzy73＠connix.com 18 Jan '99

18 Jan '99

HI all Im not feeling particullary bright here, *somehow* my diald got TOASTED! not exactly sure what I did but suddenly diald began to give me errors "temporary name server error" Ive checked resolv.conf, /etc/hosts/ everything seems normal I removed and reinstalled diald with yast tried activating and deactivating lastly I removed every trace of diald ; rebooted ; did find / -name diald <nothing>; reboot ; installed diald via yast ; activated in yast network config removed .fetchmailrc and reran fetchsetup diald is just not coming up!!!! I can dial up with /etc/suseppp/scripts/ppp-up generic and then run fetchmail no problem now fetchmail "local error: network is unreachable" diald "no device specified. You must specify at least one device" diald & "no device specified. You must specify at least one device" diald /dev/ttyS0 "you must define a connection script&remoteip&local ip" What the hell is going on! diald is set to yes in rc.config Ive rebooted the system... It dosent come up also fwiw I noticed yast trashes the generic.options when ever I alter the ppp connection ! UNREAL!! So Im going from everything working nicely... to what looks like...(a reinstall) this shouldnt be necessary! :-/ not a happy camper please advise rob -- Linux Home page <A HREF="http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm"><A HREF="http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm</A">http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Hosed at Last !!
by r.ibbotson＠zen.co.uk 18 Jan '99

18 Jan '99

Hello, I was just about getting to the finer points of tuning up the system the other day when I had an accident. This isn't like me at all. I had changed a few things in /etc/rc.config and in /opt/kde/share/config/kdmrc when I slipped on the keyboard and rebooted the system. I was unable to run /sbin/SuSEconfig before this happened. When the machine came back up again I was pleased to see that the KDE loaded and the display manager appeared on the screen asking me to login. I keyed in "root" and then tried to key in the password. The keyboard works fine. I couldn't even key a single letter in to the "Password" slot. I have been able to launch the rescue system and have then found that I can't run /sbin/SuSEconfig from there. I have looked up various Howtos and man pages. Can't find anything about running SuSEconfig from the rescue system command line. Does anyone have any idea how I get out of this one ? I could always re-install the system, I'd like to stay away from that if I can. TIA ------------------------------------------- Richard Sheffield UK <A HREF="http://www.zen.co.uk/home/page/r.ibbotson"><A HREF="http://www.zen.co.uk/home/page/r.ibbotson</A">http://www.zen.co.uk/home/page/r.ibbotson</A</A>> <A HREF="http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ribbotson"><A HREF="http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ribbotson</A">http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ribbotson</A</A>> ------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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No Subject
by Dean＠putnamcompany.com 18 Jan '99

18 Jan '99

unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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RV: [SuSE Linux] SciTech Display Doctor 1.0 - Help !!
by mcleod＠ssc.es 18 Jan '99

18 Jan '99

Hello Antonis, > > > I am trying to install SciTech Display Doctor (see LJ of Jan 99) > because I have a Legend QDI 8Mb video card with the Intel 740 chip and > the above driver supports it. > > I downloaded the tar.gz file and followed the instructions. However, althought > the card is supported and detected the server refuses to start. There is an > error message ( erno: 111 ) ! > > Is there anyone who tried this Scitech server in SuSE 5.3 and can help me ? > Any ideas are very welcomed. > ( The LJ article reviews only for a Red Hat distro.) I've used it succesfully with suse 5.3 but my advise is to download the i740 server from redhat it's on ftp.redhat.com/pub/XBF since SDD gave me lots of headaches. First you've to force the installaltion and I supect you must have a more recent version of the glibc libraries than the stock version of suse. Also after the trial period your server will disconnect and stop workinŽ at all it will say "connection to the server refused" and similars. So it's a better thing to star using from the begining the redhat server, it's free and works great. have fun! Vicente Werner - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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RE: [SuSE Linux] Sax-ual Healing?
by Arturo.Martinez-Nieves＠NSMG.Seagatesoftware.com 18 Jan '99

18 Jan '99

Where can I get SaX from? I have SuSE 5.2 and Sax is not there... -----Original Message----- From: Robert Russell [<A HREF="mailto:risch@tir.com">mailto:risch@tir.com</A>] Sent: 16 January 1999 18:36 To: SUSE Mailing List Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sax-ual Healing? I had upgraded from SuSE 5.2 to 5.3 and was looking forward to Sax, but found that, though its GUI was "nicer" than XF86Setup, when I attempted to re-install X it gave me fits. Until Sax matures a wee bit I'm sticking with the tried and true so long as it is available. Regards, Bob Bill Adair wrote: > > Dear All, > I've loaded SUSE-linux 5.3 (previously running the 5.2 freebie from a UK > magazine) and > the X Server setup has changed to use Sax. Now when I set up the monitor > I'm getting a screen desktop that "scrolls" i.e. if the mouse hits the left > boundary the desktop scrolls left and if it hits the top it scrolls > upwards. I hate this. How do I stop it as I can't see any settings in Sax > for setting the virtual desktop size as opposed to the display size? Sax > doesn't seem to work fully anyway as the window sizing screen (with the > eight buttons) doesn't change size when I click on a button or shift > position. > TIA > Bill > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the > archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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