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[SuSE Linux] ftp
by mlankton＠home.com 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

One thing I miss when I'm in S.u.S.E. is the download status indicator in ftp. FreeBSD must use a newer ftp because it has one. I don't mind using ncftp, but I really prefer plain vanilla ftp if possible. Is there a package I can get off the S.u.S.E. ftp site to upgrade ftp? Thanks in advance. -- .###. /#######\## -==============================================- ;##### ;# Mike's WindowMaker ;##### ;# <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A</A>> \# /## -==============================================- ###'---'#### - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Save Configuration bug in 5.3
by daniel＠netcom.com 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

I'm using SuSE 5.2 on 5 ALR Revolution 6x6 servers (each with 4 Pentium Pros, 512MB RAM,4x4.3GB HDs). It's important that all 5 be identical. In 5.2 I configured the 1st install by hand and saved the result to a floppy. YaST asked for the floppy before showing me the different load configurations, and asked if I wanted to save my config file to hard disk or floppy. I used the floppy to load the config file into each of the other 4 systems, and YaST installed exactly the same stuff on each one. On 5.3, YaST will occasionally recognize the config floppy IF it already has a config file saved on it. It NEVER asks whether I want to use a floppy to save a config file, and always writes my custom config file to the hard disk, which is useless. I think this is really the biggest bug in 5.3 (so far). The hard disk partitioning problem is bad, but this is worse if you have more than 1 system to maintain. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] DIALD
by kc8chq＠juno.com 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

Well I received 5.3 FedEx yesterday. After some of the comments I was unsure whether I wanted to upgrade(in fact I had not requested to be on a subscription). The upgrade went fairly easily though my sound does not work(I'll have to go back and look at some posts concerning that, which encouraged me it may be easier than in 5.2 BTW what is the difference between the OSS and the OSS demo?) To my main point: I had never fully configured diald(I think it may be of little use as my internet access is through a freenet that does not support PPP), but after upgrading to 5.3 Linux dials my modem almost before boot up has completed. I'd read the manual, but I'm not certain what I'm looking for. Any suggestions? Thanks! Best regards, Bob Russell kc8chq(a)juno.com Penguin inside! Now THAT'S Cool! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at <A HREF="http://www.juno.com"><A HREF="http://www.juno.com</A">http://www.juno.com</A</A>> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Linux and the CPU
by steve＠millsphoto.com 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

Using the K desktop. After my SuSE has been up and running for a while on this Micron 166 (32mb ram) I get bogged down with memory usage. The HDD light remains on and the mouse gets choppy. I looked in with Xosview and can see my CPU running at 100teadily. A glance with top and I see something called "find" claiming 930f my CPU usage, so I kill it. Then "mandb" runs up to 78%. Kill that. Now things are good again. What was happening? I have only used Terminal, KMail and Netscape this morning on a fresh boot. I have a screensaver active, is that it? I just can't see the CPU remaining under a load after the screensaver stops. -- Steve Mills steve(a)millsphoto.com <A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com"><A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com</A">http://www.millsphoto.com</A</A>> Great wallpapers live here. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] "system is not able to compile a small KDE application!"
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

I am running a patched together S.u.S.E. with egcs, QT 1.4, and KDE1.0 for rh5 & QT 1.4 on one system. The other system has g++ 2.7.01, QT 1.32. I'm not sure of the KDE on the latter system. The first system is the one I really want to work. Both of my systems give me the same message when I try to compile ksamba: "system is not able to compile a small KDE application! Check, if you installed the KDE header files correctly." I echo $all_includes from confugure and get: "all_includes: -I/opt/kde/include -I/usr/lib/qt/include -I/usr/X11R6/include" /opt/kde/include has a bunch of *.h in it so I figure I'm pointing to the correct location. What am I missing here? TIA, Setve - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [SuSE Linux] chsh - bug??
by marc_bouron＠hotmail.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

>The wierdest thing happend this morning when changing my shell. When >using chsh it asked for my password, i typed in the right one (several >times), but it kept refusing it. I telnetted to the machine with the same >username and password --> no problem. Even than it didn't work. > >Is this a known UDF or just a bug? I've noticed a similar thing if I try to "exec login". It refuses to recognise my password. I can only login from a fresh login screen. --Marc. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] chsh - bug??
by bouke＠xs4all.nl 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

Yo folks, The wierdest thing happend this morning when changing my shell. When using chsh it asked for my password, i typed in the right one (several times), but it kept refusing it. I telnetted to the machine with the same username and password --> no problem. Even than it didn't work. Is this a known UDF or just a bug? grtz Bouke bouke@pocket:/home/bouke > chsh Password: Incorrect password for bouke. bouke@pocket:/home/bouke > chsh Password: Incorrect password for bouke. bouke@pocket:/home/bouke > telnet danger Trying 194.109.14.28... Connected to danger.xs4all.nl. Escape character is '^]'. Welcome to S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3 (i386) - Kernel 2.0.35 (ttyp3). pocket login: bouke Password: Have a lot of fun... Last login: Fri Sep 4 09:04:35 on ttyp4 from danger.xs4all.nl. No mail. Directory: /home/bouke Fri Sep 4 09:18:03 CEST 1998 /home/bouke> chsh Password: Incorrect password for bouke. /home/bouke> -- <J0hnPC> sinds ik mutt 1 keer opgestart heb, heb ik elm nooit meer aangeraakt - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Printer flush?
by steve＠millsphoto.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

I am having no luck getting the Epson drivers to recognize my particular printers (Stylus Pro and Stylus Photo). After trying to print a single email, I am left with a problem. Each time I restart Linux it tries to print it again. More wasted paper. I type k and select the line "epsonlette" which stops the printing in progress, but it always comes back. How do you kill the print job for good? -- Steve Mills steve(a)millsphoto.com <A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com"><A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com</A">http://www.millsphoto.com</A</A>> Great wallpapers live here. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [SuSE Linux] Rebuilding kernel modules
by andyford＠agedwards.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

I don't know if this holds as a general rule, but here's what i did when I needed a new driver for my NIC. I downloaded tulip.c. At the end of the source file is the compile command. It looks like gcc -Wall -Blah -Blah -IBlah ..... tulip.c I cut and pasted that onto the command line and after it compiled, got a tulip.o which I tested by saying insmod /path/to/wherever/tulip.o which loads the module. It worked, so I moved tulip.o to /lib/modules/blahblah/net or something and it has worked ever since. You may also need to uncomment a line in conf.modules. That procedure is usually in the docs for the module. Andrew Ford System Administrator, Bond Dept. A.G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. Phone: 314-955-6647 Fax:314-955-4897 andyford(a)agedwards.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Q.G. Lewis [SMTP:qgl176@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 1998 1:36 PM > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: [SuSE Linux] Rebuilding kernel modules > > > I want to upgrade the kernel driver module used for my nic, but I > am not quite sure how to do it correctly. I know I can do a ' make > modules ' and then' make modules_install ', but what I do not know is > how this will effect my current build (all documentation that I have > found is very skimpy on the subject). Doing a ' make modules ' will > probably complie all the sources in the drivers directory, but will > the ' make modules_install ' try to install them as well? Will I have > to reinstall LiLo after? > Basically what I would like to know is the best way to update this > one kernel module. > As always, thanks to all that respond. > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Re: X-Server problem?
by phil＠stokes.demon.co.uk 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

Previously I wrote: > >I've just upgraded from 5.2 to 5.3 and come across a small problem. >Previously, when logged in as myself, I could su to root and start an >application from within an xterm, for example tkdesk. This is handy for >browsing and selecting system files that require me to be root to >examine or edit them. > >Since upgrading however, when I su to root and try to run an >application from an xterm I get: > > stokes:/home/phil # Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server > application-specific initialization failed: couldn't connect to > display ":0.0" I thought I'd cracked this, but it seems not:( I've found though, that if I boot into an ascii login, and "startx", everything works fine, but if I boot into KDM the problem reappears. I tried zen's suggestion, but if I try to run xhost (or anything else for that matter) as root after a KDM login I get "connection to ":0.0" refused by server." I'm wondering if it could be something to do with shadow passwords, which I have enabled. When I start KDE, it throws up a requester every time telling me that as I'm running shadow passwords, I need to get my sysadmin to suid the screensavers. Well, I'm my sysadmin, and I can't seem to find the screensavers to suid them either! Any more ideas? Phil -- Philip Stokes <phil(a)stokes.demon.co.uk> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] PCMCIA troubles
by jwaalkes＠edge.net 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

Sorry about reposting this, but I was zombified when I previously posted it with the wrong subject title. Hi all, I have a IBM 755CX thinkpad with PCMCIA slots, and using Suse 5.2 they don't work. I've tried cardmgr and have looked in '/proc/devices' (nothing there) and lsmod shows nothing either. With RH 5.1, it just came up working. So I know they *should* work. I d'led the latest PCMCIA driver and installed it, but it's still not working. In fact, cardmgr doesn't give out any messages whatsoever and as far as I can tell, doesn't do anything. The how-to and the man page (other than the need to install the latest-n-greatest driver) didn't really point me anywhere. Can anybody help? Thanks, John - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] system hangs
by qgl176＠yahoo.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

I do not even know where to begin with this so I will just explain what happens. I am using kernel 2.0.33 ( SuSE v5.2). I installed dosemu that came with the distribution and it works, but after the system has been sitting idle for a while it will hang when I try to run it. No problem I will just go to another virtual console and kill it. Well the process will not die, even with the ' -9 ' siginal. Is there a way to kill these types of rouge processes? Ok so now I will just do a ' shutdown -r now'. Now after all the sigterms have been sent and the filesystems are getting ready to unmount the system hangs. This is not new to me and it does not have anything to do with dosemu, (if any one has any suggestions to why dosemu doesnt load and hangs a tty, pleas feel free to comment), infact I think it has something to do with sync. I have run sync manually and it hangs a tty and I can not kill it. The only way to recover is to power off and then on. I know clarification is probably needed, but any ideas? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] rpm's
by erwon＠hotmail.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

Will any rpm package work with suse 5.2? Or will only rpm's made especially for suse linux work? won't the different file system between redhat and suse make redhat rpms different from suse rpms? or am i way off base here? and now, what i really want... where can i get a gcc2.8 rpm for suse linux? thanks. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] [ISDN] How to add to Hisax / Dynalink support
by i000372＠nl.cis.philips.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

Hi, I moved from Redhat to the new SuSE, mainly because I hoped that the ISDN support was completely up-to-date. First of all, in general : Good Job! SuSE appeared to be a pretty decent dist. (And what application is 1000erfect, right?) First of all, as described for SuSE 5.1, there is a hisax.o and a hisax.2.5.o in de /var/modules/etc. Does this mean that still the 'standard' version is 2.1, and one has to rename 2.5.o to get the 2.5 support? I figured 2.5 hsould have been stable enuff by now? I'm trying to get a Dynalink IS64PH+ ISDN card to function inder 5.3. Unfortunatly it is not standard supported by 5.3. What do I have to do, to get it functioning under 5.3? If I get just the simple steps explained would already be a big help. I'm a bit reluctant to make a whole new kernel just for this, Hisax is a module after all and I thought that that means that you don't need to do that? The driver information for this Dynalink IS available at <A HREF="http://www.2l.net/dynalink/linux/"><A HREF="http://www.2l.net/dynalink/linux/</A">http://www.2l.net/dynalink/linux/</A</A>> there is a file <A HREF="http://www.2l.net/dynalink/linux/hisax.tar.gz"><A HREF="http://www.2l.net/dynalink/linux/hisax.tar.gz</A">http://www.2l.net/dynalink/linux/hisax.tar.gz</A</A>> that contains the sources for the hisax/isdn cards (similar to /usr/src/linux/modules/etc), including the .c and .h for the dynalink. You can't just replace this directory, with these files and do something like a 'make modules' right? Would it be to simple, to just replace one of the other card's source files, by the dynalink ones and rebuild hisax, and then start using the dynalink under the name of the other one? What if the hisax gets a new card added to it, do I: - change the Hisax source? - make modules? (/usr/src/linyx/modules/etc assume to have the needed .c and .h) - rebuild Hisax? - change the kernel? - rebuild the kernel? If I (by building it myself or getting it) have a Hisax module (.o) for my Dynalink, can it be interchanged with other SuSE 5.3 systems to have instant support without any rebuilding hassle? Can it be interchanged with RedHat 5.1 and others...? How does one make a as module? I have seen here and there that soemthing can be compiled as a module, but nowhere exactly HOW... If I would patch/build the kernel to 2.0.36 (which as I have been told has more ISDN support), would that mean that my kernel is no longer usable as SuSE kernel? This thing has got me busy, already for quite some time. And I still do not want to swap my Teles card from my other machine, with this one... and I know it must be possible somehow.. I just got back into the Linux game after a few years of denial; have to catch up a lot, like for the modules thing. I'm not a newbie in Unix though... Greetings, Frans - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] SaX
by hettar＠teleport.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

Hia S.u.S.E I just gota say SaX is very nice. Its the new XFree86 manager that SuSE uses. Its less trouble than XF86Setup and thats a breeze itself. And does away with Xvideotune with its own tune which does a pretty good job. Way to go SuSE ! (still running SuSE 5.2 tho, just ) (just upgraded XFree3.3.2.+ from ) (the SuSE FTP site............... ) But why do I get these errors(always had em) when I restart a wm such as fvwm2 from X. X Error of failed request: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 62 (X_CopyArea) Resource id in failed request: 0x3400002 Serial number of failed request: 205 Current serial number in output stream: 205 X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 4 (X_DestroyWindow) Resource id in failed request: 0x300000f Serial number of failed request: 1823 Current serial number in output stream: 1826 I wish I could fix these.. Steven Udell hettar(a)teleport.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Netscape is unique
by steve＠millsphoto.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

I am not trying to advertise (I sell nothing on my website, anyway) but I need some input from normal Netscape users. Maybe this concerns Linux itself, but I don't think that's the cause. I have always built my webpages with MS Front Page. I checked the pages with IE and occasionally with NS to be sure visitors would get equal or at least similar views. I have been perusing my site with NS today and one page is just plain wierd. My wallpaper page, perhaps because there are so many images but I don't think so, doesn't line up along the left side of the page like I built it to. That is an issue I can address more closely and I'm sure I can get it to be right. It still looks right for MSIE4. What really looks wierd is the fonts. I have no idea what NS is trying to present, but it's not the fonts selected. Even KFM shows the pages with the right fonts. In particular, I have tried to use Maiandra GD and Verdana. If they are there in NS, they are almost too small to read. My monitor is set to 1024 x768, btw. I've seen a lot of threads in here about NS fonts and how to change their sizes. Does this also have something to do with bitstreaming fonts? My NS is pretty much out-of-the-box in it's setup. Day 2 of the web with Linux. I like it. :) -- Steve Mills steve(a)millsphoto.com <A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com"><A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com</A">http://www.millsphoto.com</A</A>> Great Wallpapers Live Here. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] re. spam
by mlankton＠home.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

I just meant that it's cool to mention a new release of an app that S.u.S.E. users may find interesting, or to mention one that may be little-known that you would like to bring to people's attention, but I think that last post was pretty much a sales pitch, and that probably isn't appropriate. -- .###. /#######\## -==============================================- ;##### ;# Mike's WindowMaker ;##### ;# <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A</A>> \# /## -==============================================- ###'---'#### - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] BlackBox WM
by hettar＠teleport.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

BLACKBOX wm by Bradley T. Hughes (aka Nyzthike) Far Out! Insane! ***** Five Star Day Dream Best looking wm there is Fastest wm there is One wm SuSE should of put in <A HREF="http://linux.wiw.org/blackbox"><A HREF="http://linux.wiw.org/blackbox</A">http://linux.wiw.org/blackbox</A</A>> <A HREF="http://blackbox.themes.org"><A HREF="http://blackbox.themes.org</A">http://blackbox.themes.org</A</A>> <A HREF="http://www.themes.org"><A HREF="http://www.themes.org</A">http://www.themes.org</A</A>> Don't get lost in unremarkable wms! Don't get lost in bloated wms! Don't get lost in boring wms! Get Blackbox 0.40.5 NOW! 0.40.6 is due out Thursday! Steve Udell - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Linksys PCI cards and the ne2k-pci driver problem
by nick.bowling＠dial.pipex.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

Hello, After a lot of effort I have finally got my Linksys PCI Ethercard installed. Unfortunately... two more problems now occur. 1. Pinging a Win98 box with it's IP number gets a "network unreachable..." 2. TKDesk in X now locks up the computer so bad I have to do a hard reset! Does anyone have any idea as to what I am doing wrong. During boot up the kernal recognises the card identifies the correct io and irq and loads the driver. The conf.modules file is correctly set as is the rc.xxxx files. Is the TK lock up problem related to the desk manager trying to access the LAN? Nick Bowling - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Ack! Connectivity degradation
by cmayes＠adenine.frognet.net 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

Hello from my Minicom connection... I am having major problems with my PPP stuff, and I can't figure out what has caused it. The first signs showed up a couple of days ago when I was fetching some mail off of my ISP server. All of a sudden, the transfer essentially stopped. Thinking I had gotten a bad connection, I (using wvdial .41) reconnected. Now, nothing would work. No telnet, no W3, no POP3, No IMAP, nothing. In a panic, I fell back on Kppp. It worked for telnet and W3, but the mail transfer was abysmally slow. So, I thought I'd try to modify named.boot to see if that would make a difference. Nope. I re-commented what I had modified and went to class. Upon returning, I discovered that I could not connect at all! My pppd kept dying. Puzzled, I manually tried launching pppd. It returned that I did not have Kernel support for PPP. I am at a loss, really. Does anyone have any ideas? I seriosly have not touched a thing besides named.boot, which I quickly reset to normal. I am running SuSE 5.2 with the 2.0.33 kernel. I have tried both kppp and wvdial, both of which worked perfectly before. Thanks in advance! Chris - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] TKDesk and ne2k-pci.o problem
by nick.bowling＠dial.pipex.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

Hello, Further to my earlier postings, I have now got my network up and running, well at least able to ping each other. However TKDesk still locks up the whole computer when the network is enabled. /sbin/init.d/network stop allows TKDesk to run fine. Is this a known issue or is it unique to this driver, Hardware Linksys Etherlan PCI II at io=0xfce0 irq=9 driver = ne2k-pci.o SuSE Linux 5.2 I would relly appreciate advice on this as I do like TKDesk. Nick Bowling - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Micro$oft Back Office
by kc8chq＠juno.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

I received this today. I submit it to these lists as most everyone uses M$ as well as Linux. Best regards, Bob Russell kc8chq(a)juno.com Penguin inside! Now THAT'S Cool! --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- There are several wormholes in the Microsoft Back Office product. These are supposed to make it easier for the system administrator to administer "your system". It also allows the transmisssion of Microsoft OCX controls, just like Microsoft explorer does. This results in, essentially, un- virus scanned code being run on your computer without your knowledge. In addition Microsoft back office , in conjuntion with Microsoft Office allows a whole new group of "macro viruses", essential Word, Excel, etc. document extensions, written in Visual Basic to be run on your system without your explicit knowledge. IMHO macro viruses are the most dangerous, leading to the ACTUAL, not fabled, "I opened the mail attachment, and my drive got wiped out". --------- End forwarded message ---------- _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at <A HREF="http://www.juno.com"><A HREF="http://www.juno.com</A">http://www.juno.com</A</A>> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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AW: [SuSE Linux] CONTRACEPTIVES '98 by Microsoft
by doehrm＠aubi.de 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

it's a bad joke, isn't it? Markus Döhr IT Admin AUBI Baubeschläge GmbH Tel.: 06503/917-152 Fax : 06503/917-119 doehrm(a)aubi.de > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Ted Maciag [<A HREF="mailto:tsm@wwnet.net">mailto:tsm@wwnet.net</A>] > Gesendet am: Dienstag, 8. September 1998 04:11 > An: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Betreff: Re: [SuSE Linux] CONTRACEPTIVES '98 by Microsoft > > > Hi Fred, > > Enjoyed this one a bunch! > > Fred A. Miller wrote: > > > CONTRACEPTIVES '98 by Microsoft > > -Submitted by Chris Keen > > ============================== > > News just in of Microsoft's latest venture: > > -- > Ted Maciag > > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] CONTRACEPTIVES '98 by Microsoft
by fmiller＠lightlink.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

CONTRACEPTIVES '98 by Microsoft -Submitted by Chris Keen ============================== News just in of Microsoft's latest venture: Microsoft Corporation has taken another step toward dominating every aspect of American life with the introduction of Contraceptive98, a suite of applications designed for users who engage in sex. Microsoft has been a pioneer in peer-to-peer connectivity and plug and play. It believes these technologies will give it substantial leverage in penetrating the copulation enhancement market.The product addresses two important user concerns: the need for virus protection and the need for a firewall to ensure the non-propagation of human beings. The Contraceptive98 suite consists of three products: Condom98, DeFetus 1.0 (from Sementec), and AIDScan 2.1 (from Norton Utilities). A free copy of Intercourse Explorer 4.0 is bundled in the package. The suite also comes in two expanded versions. Contraceptive98 Professional is the Client/Server edition, for professionals in the sexual services sector. Contraceptive98 Small Business Edition is a package for startups, aimed at the housewife and gigolo niches. While Contraceptive98 does not address nontraditional copulatory channels, future plug-ins are planned for next year. OPERATION: Only one node in a peer-to-peer connection needs to install the package. At installation, the Condom98 software checks for minimum hardware. If the user meets the requirements, the product installs and is sufficiently scaleable to meet most requirements. After installation, operation commences. One caution is that the user must have sufficient RAM to complete the session. When the session is complete, a disconnect is initiated, and the user gets the message, it is now safe to turn off your partner. DRAWBACKS: Usability testers report that frequent failures were a major concern during beta testing. General Protection Fault was the most serious error encountered. Early versions had numerous bugs, but most of these have been eliminated. The product needs to be installed each time its used. CONCLUSION: Contraceptive98 is a robust product. Despite its drawbacks, it is reasonably good value for its $49.95 price tag, and is far superior to its shareware version. Hopefully, future releases (of the software, that is) will add missing functionality, such as Backout and Restore, uninterruptible Power Supply, and Onboard Camera. Microsoft CEO Bill Gates is optimistic about "Our contraceptive products will help users do to each other what we've been doing to our customers for years. -- - Windows 98 supports real multitasking - it can boot and crash simultaneously - Fred A. Miller, Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fmiller(a)lightlink.com fm(a)cupserv.org - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] PMmail/TSEJR: was I love KMail...but...
by jljr＠paonline.com 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

On Tue, 08 Sep 98 20:10:50, andy peerand wrote: ><A HREF="http://www.southsoft.com"><A HREF="http://www.southsoft.com</A">http://www.southsoft.com</A</A>> Thank you for the correction, sorry that I originally posted the wrong address. I have been using Pmmail for OS/2 for some time now and it is very nice, and sure would like having a version for Linux. As I posted earlier, the good people at Southsoft said that making a Linux version was on their priotity list. Here's part of my reply when asked about a Linux version: "that is very high on our list. we are booked up through 1998, but when we decide what we are going to be doing in 1999 ,we will give this serious thought as it is perhaps our biggest request. RIght now, I will just let you knwo that it will require tremendous amount of work (the port to windows took 14 months total, becasue we don't port, we rewrote it as a native product to not loose any of the speed that we have, to keep it lightwieght and to make sure we got all of the advantages of a windows app :) It will take a significant number of time, money and other resources that if we can allocate would be great! " Ike. =========================================================== PMMail Support pmmailos2(a)southsoft.com SouthSoft, Inc. <A HREF="http://www.southsoft.com"><A HREF="http://www.southsoft.com</A">http://www.southsoft.com</A</A>> =========================================================== PMMail now for OS/2 AND Windows 95/NT (3.51+) Version 1.96a of PMMail for OS/2 now out Version 2.01 of PMMail 98 for Win95/NT now out As for me, the only other application I really would love to have in Linux is an editor called TSEJR, formerely Qedit, another OS/2-Dos- Windows editor. Yes, I contacted them also here is part of their reply: "Thank you for your continued interest in our products. We have given a great deal of thought to a Unix/Linux version of one of our editors. However, we do not currently have any definite plans for such a port. Hint: The more users that contact us about a Unix or Linux port, the more likely we would be to do one!!!! (As it is now, the vast majority of users seem to want a GUI_Windows_ editor.) Sincerely, Bobbi Mitchell SemWare Sales " Once again, it looks like they would produce a linux version for the asking, all we need is to have a few linux users request one. As quoted, the Windows users are not afraid to ask for new products, and the old "Squeaky wheel gets the greese"; may well apply in this scenerio! <A HREF="http://www.semware.com"><A HREF="http://www.semware.com</A">http://www.semware.com</A</A>> Anyone that wishes to help out by sending a nice request to either of these developers has my thanks in advance. I don't think Linux can have too many programs, even editors. thanks again, joe (jljr(a)paonline.com or jljr(a)ptdprolog.net) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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