August 1998 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[SuSE Linux] Install SuSE5.3 on a laptop without Floppy Disk
by kwanalex＠hkstar.com 28 Aug '98

28 Aug '98

Can I install SuSE on a loptop under following conditions: (1) without Floppy Disk, pcmcia CD-ROM or internal CD-ROM. (2) copy SuSE files from CD-ROM of desktop through a ethernet card to a DOS partition of laptop. Best regards, Alex - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Any ppp setup difference with Red hat?
by kevcol＠yahoo.com 28 Aug '98

28 Aug '98

Agreed! I just DL'd the tar.gz file, put it in a directory, followed the instructions: 'make' and then 'make install'. Then edited the /etc/wvdial.conf file with my ISP tel #/user name/password. Oh- make sure if you have not done so, configure your network configuration in YaST to set your DNS, etc. Hot damn, it was simple, Simon! cheers- Kevin ---Sandy <sandyseeds(a)iname.com> wrote: > Well, I know "jack" about compiling, but it went absolutely perfect with > WvDial and my SuSE5.2 on an old P-133. And it's performed flawlessly > ever since. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] iDSL setup with SuSE
by deem＠wdm.com 28 Aug '98

28 Aug '98

Ouch...the last one got send by mistyping! I will be getting an iDSL ( 3ComImpact IQ modem ), and dedicated connection from my employer soon. Anyone in Europe or the U.S. have this type of DSL connection up with SuSE ? If so, what is the needed kernel changes and what script did you use ? I have been using X-ISP happily. Thanks -Dee - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] iDSL Setup for SuSE
by deem＠wdm.com 28 Aug '98

28 Aug '98

I will be getting an iDSL (3COM Impact IQ), dedicated connection soon and wondered if anyone in Europe on this list has one up with --------------------------------------------------- W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem(a)wdm.com <A HREF="http://www.wdm.com"><A HREF="http://www.wdm.com</A">http://www.wdm.com</A</A>> "The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few." --------------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Compiler for kernel and C++ Development w.Exceptions!
by ingi＠elit.se 28 Aug '98

28 Aug '98

Hi First of all I want to point out that it's me who is screwing my system and I'm solely responsible for that and nobody else. I'm certain that SuSE people are doing their job and they are doing it very well. And I agree (and I think that I wrote it too) that most of my questions were NOT SuSE specific. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Johnson <hekate(a)intergate.bc.ca> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: den 27 augusti 1998 21:59 Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Compiler for kernel and C++ Development w.Exceptions! > > >Try checking out the appropriate lists. Most of your questions aren't >really about S.u.S.E. but issues with compilers and glibc. You seem to know alot about those lists so please point me to lists containings those issues, not those old GCC-HOWTO and GLIBC2-HOWTO docs. > I think >PROBABLY most people on here were sane enough to wait for the S.u.S.E. >people to upgrade to glibc, and for those of us using more than one >compiler, we kept the original gcc on board for the obvious reasons. >S.u.S.E. will go glibc in 6.0, can't you be patient till then? Yes I'm insane, i.e. I got this upgrade decease (sickness) that I always need to have the latest version. I blame that on Microsoft. At last I managed to install the GCC 2.7.2.3 to use for compiling of the kernel. I can also compile some c++ programs (the KDE 1.0 is built in c/c++ 2.7.2.x), whith that version together with libg++ 2.7.2. The compiler and libs got installed under /usr/... so it replace my 2.7.2.1 which came with SuSE. > I mean it >is, like, their job, and they know what they are doing. It definately >seems to be a better option than screwing up your system and then sending >multiple mails to the lists with subtle threats about 'abandoning >S.u.S.E.' just because you decided to flame ahead into areas you aren't >experienced with (obviously) and managed to possibly damage or cripple >some things on your system in the process of making totally unsupported >changes. My intention was NOT to threaten anybody, sorry for any offence taken. I did NOT send multiple mails to this or any list with threats that I would abandon SuSE dist. I only ment that I would probably choose a distribution which contained the compiler versions I was intressted in. > It's kind of assumed that if you're gonna do stuff like this >that you are 1) doing it at your own risk or and 2) are in enough >command of what you are doing that you can fix your own problems as they >come along. <grin> I think you might find SOME help on the kernel and >compiler lists. I responded a little bit below: 1) Yes It's on my own risk, but upgrades are not failsafe (nor idiot-safe) so I was kind in a need of discussion forum for that kind of problems, but as you say, everybody but me seems to be so sane that they dont put them self into that kind of problems. 2) I't me who's the root, but sadly enough I haven't been using linux long enough (since May'98!). > >On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson wrote: > >> I keep screewing things up on my SuSE 5.2 and now I'm loosing patience. > >That's not S.u.S.E.'s fault. Alot of the changes you've made weren't made >in the distribution for reasons already mentioned. Glibc is coming at the >end of the year. You are taking some real chances with some of this... In their letter "S.u.S.E. ONline" which I received today, they state that SuSE 5.3 "will be able to execute glibc binaries" but they also state following: "The reliable libc5, responsible for the stability of the entire system, underpins the Linux plattform itself" whatever that means. > >> i) Apparently compiling the kernel 2.0.3x with compiler >> above 2.7.2.x is not supported. > >There are known bugs. If you are going to experiment with compilers be >aware of the issues. Egcs, and kernel have lists you might want to check >out to find out what those issues are. It's already been stated on this >list the issues compiling with the more recent gcc and egcs with 2.0* >series kernels. If you intend to precede then you kind of do it at your >own risk and you should make sure you know what you're doing. If you want >to find out more about what these issues are I recomend you read the >appropriate lists... You mention alot of lists, please tell me which. > >> I read in the GCC FAQ/HOWTO that using the >> "--prefix=/not/the/same/as/gcc" instead of "-V version" was recommended, but >> no other links were mentioned. > >Well there's an egcs faq as well. I have a copy. If you like I'll send it >and you can scan it to see if it's any use to you or if there's anything >you might have missed. There _is_ a step of >symlinking involved after 'configure --prefix=BLAHBLAHBLAH' that is >included in the installing process so it's really not 100% true to say >that all it says is to run configure. That's just plain inaccurate. Maybe >you missed it. > > >> I have been able to build and successfully boot kernels built with both >> 2.8.1 and egcs-1.0.3a (gcc version egcs-2.90.29). What does it mean that >> those builds are not supported? (besides very few answers when asking in >> newsgroups/mailing lists). > >Which lists are you on? Maybe it's the wrong lists. Not supported means >there are issues. If you want to details I already told you where you >can find them. I also know that just cause something builds and APPEARS >o.k. that doesn't always mean all is well.. you know what to do.You >should probably be checking out the compiler lists and archives for this >not complaining to S.u.S.E. > >> I've installed the glib 2 (libc6) (hey everybody seems to be going with glib >> 2). > >Go through your build process again and reread the instructions to see if >there is something you missed? I, and I know others have built sucessfully >testlibraries with glibc. I wasn't crazy enough to totally wipe out >my libc5 though. I did NOT wipe out my old libc5, if I had the system wouldn't boot. I followed the instructions in the glibc2-howto. > Advice: if you haven't done something before and >are the least bit unsure, TEST TEST TEST. Don't just start deleting >and overwriting things if you don't know what you're doing cause you >can really screw things up. I think it would make more sense to >build a test suite first and check things out, that way you still >have your regular system to fall back on. Reread your documentation. The current state is that the libs and compiler shipped with SuSE are under /usr/... and the version I install get installed under /usr/local, I just got some problems which I couldn't figure out and I thought that this was a forum to exchange experience or get advises. I feel that I should be subscribing to other lists than this one, thanks to you. > >> I downloaded and burned 3 CD's with Debian GNU/Linux. The have gcc 2.8.x and >> egcs in their release. I have still not decided if I should abandon SuSE but >> maybe I'll be forced to do so because of their packaging of the C++ >> compilers i'm intressted in and their debian-package-manager. Still today I >> prefer SuSE and I'll certainly stay SuSE if I get this working. Yes I bought >> SuSE 5.2. > >These problems are not the fault of S.u.S.E. It just seems you are playing >very toxic games with your system, and these changes---like upgrading from >libc to glibc without ( apparently ) really knowing what you are doing, >can have consequences if you screw it up. Remember you do this stuff at >your own risk. This kind of upgrade is not a minor change, so you have to >be careful. Threatening to 'abandon S.u.S.E.' if you don't get help isn't >the solution to your problem. You would probably have had the same problem >regardless of the distribution I think because maybe you weren't really >equipped yet ability-wise to make the changes you made and subsequently >screwed alot of stuff up. Again I was NOT threatening anyone, if you feel so it's your problem not mine. I've had the impression that SuSE was the BMW (or Porsche) of the Linux distributions, and I still think so. Maybe I should change to a more development stage linux distribution. Why did you not respond to my questions, like pointing me to other lists etc instead of flaming on my questions them self. That would have been much easier to write than this whole letter. - Ingvaldur > > >-M > >One is most dishonest towards one's God; he is not _permitted_ to sin. > >mail: mjohnson(a)pop3.aebc.com > > > >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] A picture of the 5.3 box
by grimmer＠suse.de 27 Aug '98

27 Aug '98

Hi, omeone was asking for a picture of the package some time ago. I just stumbled over one: <A HREF="http://www.compuplus.de/linux/linux53.html"><A HREF="http://www.compuplus.de/linux/linux53.html</A">http://www.compuplus.de/linux/linux53.html</A</A>> Enjoy, LenZ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer S.u.S.E. GmbH <A HREF="mailto:grimmer@suse.de">mailto:grimmer@suse.de</A> Gebhardtstrasse 2 <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] I've messed up my mail setup
by cmayes＠adenine.frognet.net 27 Aug '98

27 Aug '98

This is probably more suitable for another list/source, but this is the closest of the lists that I am subscribed to... Anyway, I've majorly messed up my mail setup. While compiling ddd, I ran into an out-of-space problem. Foolhardy as I was, I saw the problem in *a* temp directory, and thought the problem was in the /tmp directory. Since I had forgotten the disk space command (and was too lazy to find it), I assumed that the problem would be fixed if I wiped the /tmp directory. You see, I am used to this directory being full of excess stuff... Well, I took out the directory, re-established it, and tried to make a symlink to my /home directory, which I thought would have more room. This brought much disaster. Not only did it not fix my problem (I found out later once I belatedly got the xdf running that it was my compiling directory that had run out of room. Stupid newbie :-() it seems to have hosed something to do with mailbox permissions. None of my user logins can write to their mailbox through pine or elm, and mutt refuses to work properly with the su command, still trying to access the orginal login's mailbox. Does anyone have any ideas? What do I need to run/reinstall to ge things in proper order again? This'll teach me to make rash decisions about "space-making". Thanks in advance. -Chris - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] i lost sshd somewere in cyberspace
by bouke＠xs4all.nl 27 Aug '98

27 Aug '98

Dear people, Somewhere this year i thought i had downloaded sshd from the suse site. Now i cannot find it anywhere on the net *grmbl*. I probably am getting blind, please enlighten me. Does anyone know were to find this package? grtz Bouke -- <J0hnPC> sinds ik mutt 1 keer opgestart heb, heb ik elm nooit meer aangeraakt - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Compiler for kernel and C++ Development w. Exceptions!
by ingi＠elit.se 27 Aug '98

27 Aug '98

Hi, I keep screewing things up on my SuSE 5.2 and now I'm loosing patience. i) Apparently compiling the kernel 2.0.3x with compiler above 2.7.2.x is not supported. ii) The 2.7.2.x compiler does have experimental implementations of exceptions. iii) Building C++ applications requires solid exception handling. So if I want to be able to build my kernel I need a 2.7.2.x compiler and to be able to develop solid c++ applications I need at least 2.8.1.x (I have egcs-1.0.3a). How do I have two compilers installed, to accomplish my two requiredments, without any interference? I read in the GCC FAQ/HOWTO that using the "--prefix=/not/the/same/as/gcc" instead of "-V version" was recommended, but no other links were mentioned. I find the GCC-HOWTO which I have quite old (It covers 2.7.2). I have been able to build and successfully boot kernels built with both 2.8.1 and egcs-1.0.3a (gcc version egcs-2.90.29). What does it mean that those builds are not supported? (besides very few answers when asking in newsgroups/mailing lists). No I'm not finished :) I've installed the glib 2 (libc6) (hey everybody seems to be going with glib 2). I tried to install the libg++ 2.7.2 to use with gcc 2.7.2.3, but the build-process failed because of the "./libio/libio.h" did NOT contain some "_IO_cookie_..." struct definition which was defined in "/usr/include/libio.h" I then built and installed the egcs-1.0.3a but when I try to build a very simple HelloWorld program i c++ I get the error: /usr/local/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to 'filebuf virtual table' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Can anyone tell me why? I did not declare and define any virtual functions in my simple class. Neither did it help to do so. The libstdc++.so is a link to libstdc++.so.2.8.0, I believe installed by the egcs-release. I know some of the questions above do not really belong to SuSE but I was hoping that some kind reader would feel pity for me and answer them anyhow. Just for fun I can tell that for some years now I usually have more than 3 c++ compilers installed on my NT Workstation and Server machines. Symantec has been my favorite but I'm forced to use MS Dev Studio 97 nowdays. Borland C++ is also an old friend which I miss in linux. I've just started to play with CodeWarrior C++ compiler. I do not find it difficult to have so many compilers installed at once on NT. There are (almost) no interferences between them. I downloaded and burned 3 CD's with Debian GNU/Linux. The have gcc 2.8.x and egcs in their release. I have still not decided if I should abandon SuSE but maybe I'll be forced to do so because of their packaging of the C++ compilers i'm intressted in and their debian-package-manager. Still today I prefer SuSE and I'll certainly stay SuSE if I get this working. Yes I bought SuSE 5.2. If I could sell my problems right now I would get rich like Bill, atleast that's how he got rich. Maybee the packaging is the key... Best regards - Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [SuSE Linux] SUDO
by manticora_＠hotmail.com 27 Aug '98

27 Aug '98

Try this....... (scroll down to the file portion) > > > Hello. > > My question is about SUDO. > > How I can start my script (/usr/local/bin/zzzz.pl only) as the > superuser ? And I won't to enter password. > My user is - "egor". > > my /etc/sudoers file like this > #sudoers file # # # # egor ALL=ALL > Is it right? It should work now. > > Nick K. Kozubsky > nick(a)belam.koenig.ru > Tel/FAX: +7 0112 350601 > >Rem: No Microsoft products were used in the production of this message. >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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