June 2022 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] Project management software question for project managers
by Ted Byers 29 May '24

29 May '24

I am looking for project management software I can install on my Suse box. Alas, there are quite a number of prducts that claim to be suitable project management products, but I am hoping to obtain a little help separating the wheat from the chaffe. Basically, when I open the project management software, I want to be able to choose from among a number of projects that are under way, and then see the relation between a client's wish list and the functional requirements specs, and then how these specs relate to the UML diagrams that have been created, and from there, what tasks have been defined for each requirement and the identity of all persons involved, the developers and their managers, and the person who designed the code that supports the requirement. And with that, I want to be able to see the project's timeline, the related bugs, &c. I would even want to be able to open the source code files and examine the code that was actually written. Here is my wish list: 1) a web application that stores data in either PostgreSQL or MySQL. 2) easy integration with UML tool (or has it's own UML tool that supports round trip engineering) 3) resource management (e.g. computers, and development tools, that can be used, personelle assigned to each task) 4) documentation of relation between functional requirements specs to specific tasks and specific unit and integration tests. 5) time/effort tracking 6) bug tracking, including data relating the existance of the bug, and effort required to fix it, to the person who wrote the original code, the person who supervised him or her, and the person who designed the 'feature' in question, the time taken to complete the original task, and the technologies used (to imprrove accountability as well as to determine retraining and continuing education needs (people aren't disposable, so instead of taking a harsh aproach to problems identified, I prefer to use education as a corrective, but I can't design corrective instruction without knowing precisely what the need is). I also need to know if a developer has a higher than normal bug rate simply because he doesn't take enough time to ensure the job is done right, or because I haven't adequately trained him, or because of a poor choice of tools, or somethng else that may be my fault. 7) use of task effort tracking history to generate provisional effort/cost estimates from new project's functional requirements 8) easy integration with open source ERP products like OFBiz (which may make trakcing resources and manpower easier, as well as connect real production data to the enterprise's accounting systems) 9) easy integration with CMS products, like Wordpress (especally for production documentation, includng degin documentation and user guides and reference manuals) 10) easy integration with verion control systems such as subversion. If there is a decent product that supports all of this, great (and language used to implement it doesn't matter), but if I have to write code to add missing requirements, then I am limited to those implemented using Perl or Java (and running on Tomcat). I don't know PHP well enough, and I don't know Ruby at all; and I really don't want to think about implementing this sort of thing in C++ (though I could if absolutely necessary). If you have project management experience, and use tools that are available for Suse Linux, what software product(s) did you use, and with what result? While I await relies, I will continue to review web documentation for those products I have found so far, to see if any of them are a) suitable for use in production and b) to see to what extent they support the features I am after. I have seen a number of products so far in my search, that deserve to be nameless, because they provide no way to relate cost estimates to one's team's track record, or to the details of the design, and seem satisfied with production of a pretty gantt chart (which is why I have formed the view that there is a whole lots of chaffe in the set of applications that call themselves project menement software - I have yet to find anything that really has the potential of being labelled wheat). Thanks Ted -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

6 6

Sorry SuSE: 9.1 is Waste of time and money!
by Terje J. Hanssen 17 May '24

17 May '24

I am sorry to conclude that my upgrade from SuSE 9.0 Pro to 9.1 Pro has been waste of time and money for me, so far. The same I have to say about the free SuSE "Installation support". The reason is that my SuSE 9.1 installation only detects 1 of my 3 SCSCI devices (as I wrote in another subject on this forum: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2004-May/3254.html) Yamaha 4416S CDRW recorder detected HP DVD Writer 100i NOT detected Epson 1640SU scanner NOT detected It's rather stupid. I have installed 9.1 using the DVD disk just in the HP DVD drive, but after the installation of 9.1, the KDE/Konqueror /media/recorder cannot access it and YaST2 cannot install additional software from it. Only one "Cdrecorder" is found in My computer and that is the Yamaha 4416 drive, which the KDE/Konqueror file manager assign as /media/recorder11. I am sure 9.1 is the reason, as I hadn't this problems with 9.0. I have tried both an update and two several new installation of 9.1. Neither SJDS nor Windows on the same multiboot PC have problems to detect these devices. In my opinion SuSE should therefore debug 9.1 better and longer, and not leave the problems to the customers. I see SuSE notes on their web saying that they know SCSI scanners are not detected in 9.1. But regarding my HP DVD writer problem, the SuSE support (as usual) don't take the responsibility and argue that this problem (a combination of IDE disk and SCSI devices) isn't included in their free installation support! This sounds remarkable, and I have never had a modern PC of so simple model or configuration that it has fitted the limited rules for the free installation support. Terje J. Hanssen

17 29

[SLE] RealPlayer G2 on SuSe 6.2
by yh＠ottawa.com 03 Apr '24

03 Apr '24

Yesterday, I finally got sound going on my Linux setup. I downloaded RealPlayer G2 and it worked beautifully. Today, RealPlayer run but no sound coming out. All other sound functions still work. I can still play my CD, have system sound BUT no sound when I run RealPlayer. /var/log/message said kernel: Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? but KDE sound still work. I have re-installed RealPlayer 3 times now, still no sound when I run the RealPlayer. Any help is appreciated. Ying yh(a)ottawa.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

3 2

Creating a new user for a deamon
by Rowan Reid 15 Jan '24

15 Jan '24

I'm setting up a cron job for a analysis tool, I'm trying to use the SuSE tools where possible but YAST doent' allow you to create new user without a home I tried /dev/null is there a proper way to do this ? Rowan Reid Job Captain, Systems Administrator STUDIO 3 ARCHITECTS 909 982 1717

3 2

The future of OpenSUSE Leap (rant)
by Nicolas Kovacs 29 Jul '22

29 Jul '22

Hi, I'm the manager of a small IT firm with a focus on Linux and Open Source software. On my servers I'm running a mix of various RHEL clones like CentOS, Oracle Linux and Rocky Linux. On the desktop side, I've been using OpenSUSE Leap with KDE since version 15.0. Leap is powering all the desktop clients in our local school, and everybody (school staff, teachers, students) is very happy with it. I just finished polishing up my bone-headed post-install configuration script for Leap 15.4: https://gitlab.com/kikinovak/opensuse-lp154/-/blob/main/setup.sh And I just learned that SUSE will phase out Leap after the 15.5 release. So here's a few thoughts I want to share with the distribution maintainers. 1. Perennity anyone ? Duh ? 2. After the CentOS debacle in 2020, it looks like distribution maintainers love pissing off their userbase by pulling the rug from under their feet. Hint: we hate it. 3. Some official SUSE guy on Twitter who shall remain unnamed likes to explain on a regular basis that rolling releases are the future and folks who rely on releases are utterly clueless. As someone who tried to maintain a dozen production client desktops based on Arch Linux as far back as 2006 and failed miserably after a udev update broke everything, here's a thought from my professional experience. My Number One Fight Club rule: YOU DO NOT USE ROLLING RELEASES IN A PRODUCTION ENVIRONMENT. Yes, I shouted that out loud. 4. Yes, I have Tumbleweed running on a spare sandbox PC. Yes, it works nicely. No, I will never (ever) use it in production. 5. Stop reinventing the wheel please. You young punks remind me of myself when I was three years old and tried to "repair" my parent's perfectly functional alarm clock. Cheers from the blazing hot South of France, Niki Kovacs (https://tinyurl.com/2p8tk495) -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

17 64

Server & desktop estate management
by Nicolas Kovacs 04 Jul '22

04 Jul '22

Hi, My question is not really specific to OpenSUSE, but here goes. On the latest count, I'm managing about a hundred installations: root servers, local servers, desktop PCs and laptops. Some of these are in our local school, some for a handful of companies all over France and even some in Belgium and Switzerland. Root servers are mostly Scaleway rentals in France. And then the inevitable desktops managed for friends and families. Over the years I've been using various methods to keep track of all these installations, notably specificities like BIOS configuration details, exotic hardware, extra applications besides those I usually install, etc. In the beginning it was just a simple text file per machine, then I moved on to the CherryTree note-taking application, but I'm still not satisfied with the current solution. Usually computer estate management software like GLPI or OSTicket can be relatively complex. I prefer to stick to the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) principle. So I'm curious: what methods do you use to keep an overview over your installations ? In a nutshell, the sort of file or series of files where you can get all the relevant information about an installation in a quick glance ? Thanks & cheers from France, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

10 21

15.4 - Thunderbird 90.10 - filters sorting mail into arbitrary folders
by David C. Rankin 02 Jul '22

02 Jul '22

All, I just got a shock today with Thunderbird 91.10 on 15.4. First indication something was whacked was 1/2 the mail from the linux-kernel list was in junk. Then checking the linux-raid folder I found all the messages from Simon on the factory list there. Has anyone else seen filter oddness or corruption on the current Thunderbird? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

3 7

[oS-EN] Thunderbird trouble
by Carlos E. R. 01 Jul '22

01 Jul '22

Hi, After an update yesterday on this laptop (Leap 15.3) I'm seeing this messages, continuously, on the log: > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:44 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ExpectFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:44 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:44 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ForgetFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:58 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:58 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ExpectFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:58 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:58 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ForgetFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:32 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:32 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ExpectFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:39 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:39 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ForgetFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:56 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:56 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ExpectFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:57 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:57 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ForgetFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > cer@Legolas:~> ps afxu | grep 24006 > cer 24006 17.9 31.6 4422280 1244816 tty2 Sl+ 07:55 6:48 | | \_ /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin > cer 24087 0.0 1.4 2588284 57256 tty2 Sl+ 07:55 0:01 | | \_ /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin -contentproc -childID 1 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 1 -prefMapSize 329614 -jsInit 285636 -parentBuildID 20220525135609 -appdir /usr/lib64/thunderbird 24006 tab > cer 24159 0.0 1.3 2574900 52292 tty2 Sl+ 07:56 0:01 | | \_ /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin -contentproc -childID 2 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 2167 -prefMapSize 329614 -jsInit 285636 -parentBuildID 20220525135609 -appdir /usr/lib64/thunderbird 24006 tab > cer 27607 0.0 0.0 10248 764 pts/12 S+ 08:33 0:00 | | \_ grep --color=auto 24006 > cer@Legolas:~> How do I stop that? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.3 (Legolas))

3 4

[oS-EN] New sound problem
by Carlos E. R. 28 Jun '22

28 Jun '22

Hi, I have a new sound problem. The machine is my previous desktop machine, maybe 10 year old, running a relatively new system with Leap 15.3, and XFCE desktop. I watch movies on it, and the headphones do not work. Sound taken from the line.out output of the sound card goes to the loud speakers, and they work. If I connect the headphones on the front, I hear a very low hiss on them; the loudspeakers go silent, but no actual sound on the headphones. I see on the "audio mixer" gadget that output changes from "line out (plugged in)" to "headphones (plugged in)", so they are detected. But if I take out the jack just slightly, I can get sound on both devices. The mixer tool says that I have just line out. So I get working headphones if I tune down the external volume control on the external speakers. This means that the hardware front jack is actually connected and works, but the software is not working, once it detects the headphones are connected and does something about it. I don't know what info to provide, but here goes what I can think of: Elesar:~ # hwinfo --sound 08: PCI 300.0: 0403 Audio device [Created at pci.386] Unique ID: svHJ.YhraNp3EzIA Parent ID: B35A.Ap1NNKytTd3 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.0/0000:02:00.0/0000:03:00.0 SysFS BusID: 0000:03:00.0 Hardware Class: sound Model: "Creative SB1040 PCI Express" Vendor: pci 0x1102 "Creative Labs" Device: pci 0x0009 "CA0110 [Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio]" SubVendor: pci 0x1102 "Creative Labs" SubDevice: pci 0x0018 "SB1040 PCI Express" Driver: "snd_hda_intel" Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel" Memory Range: 0xfe6fc000-0xfe6fffff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 16 (17396 events) Module Alias: "pci:v00001102d00000009sv00001102sd00000018bc04sc03i00" Driver Info #0: Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel" Config Status: cfg=yes, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #14 (PCI bridge) Elesar:~ # Elesar:~ # inxi --audio --admin Audio: Device-1: Creative Labs CA0110 [Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio] driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 1102:0009 Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.18-150300.59.71-default Elesar:~ # -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)

12 57

Probleme beim Drucken von PDFs?
by Markus Feilner 27 Jun '22

27 Jun '22

Hallo, hat noch jemand Probleme mit dem Drucken von PDFs? Ich finde mehr und mehr PDFs von Webseiten, die nicht sauber unter Cups drucken lassen. Fehlermeldunge beziehen sich beispielsweise auf fehlende Color Profiles, Cups client zählt die Seiten hoch, kommt aber nie zum Abschluss, das PDF hängt in der Queue und blockiert auch folgende Druckaufträge. Ich suche noch, any help welcome... -- Best Regards - Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Markus Feilner, Feilner IT - 20 years of open services - https://nitter.net/mfeilner ------------------------- Digital sovereignty in three words: "Exit Strategy First!" Digitale Souveränität in Drei Worten. ------------------------- Digitale Souveränität, Nachhaltigkeit, Dokumentation Linux, Security, Strategy, Politics, Journalism, Networking. https://www.feilner-it.net, 93059 Regensburg Wöhrdstr. 10, +49 170 302 7092 (+Signal) PGP: 40A3C306F96133067C11CFD9A958A906268C9F0A http://www.feilner-it.net/files/MFpub.asc Xing: http://www.xing.com/profile/Markus_Feilner LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markusfeilner @mfeilner: Matrix, Jabber, Skype, Twitter, Diaspora, ...

4 7

leap 15.4 and Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15
by Mark Hounschell 27 Jun '22

27 Jun '22

First I've seen this. I've recently installed packages like this and NOT seen this. Is it something to worry about? # zypper install somepackage Retrieving repository 'Packman Repository' metadata ..........................................................................................................................................[done] Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache ...............................................................................................................................................[done] Retrieving repository 'Update repository of openSUSE Backports' metadata .....................................................................................................................[done] Building repository 'Update repository of openSUSE Backports' cache ..........................................................................................................................[done] Warning: File 'repomd.xml' from repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' is unsigned. Note: Signing data enables the recipient to verify that no modifications occurred after the data were signed. Accepting data with no, wrong or unknown signature can lead to a corrupted system and in extreme cases even to a system compromise. Note: File 'repomd.xml' is the repositories master index file. It ensures the integrity of the whole repo. Warning: We can't verify that no one meddled with this file, so it might not be trustworthy anymore! You should not continue unless you know it's safe. File 'repomd.xml' from repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' is unsigned, continue? [yes/no] (no): no Retrieving repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' metadata ...............................................................................................[error] Repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' is invalid. [repo-sle-update|http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.4/sle/] Valid metadata not found at specified URL History: - Signature verification failed for repomd.xml - Can't provide /repodata/repomd.xml Please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository. Warning: Skipping repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' because of the above error. Some of the repositories have not been refreshed because of an error. Loading repository data... Not seen this.

4 5

SIM/smart card reader
by Dave Howorth 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

I've bought a generic USB-based SIM/smart card reader to see if I can read a SIM. It came without any useful instructions or software. I have no idea about the infrastructure of such software/hardware on linux. I've discovered and installed pcsc-lite and pcsc-ccid and pcsc-tools When I plug in the reader, it's reported in the journal: Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: new full-speed USB device number 12 using xhci_hcd Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse mtp-probe[2189]: checking bus 3, device 12: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-9/3-9.4/3-9.4.4/3-9.4.4.4" Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: New USB device found, idVendor=2ce3, idProduct=9563 Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: Product: EMV Smartcard Reader Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: Manufacturer: Generic Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse mtp-probe[2189]: bus: 3, device: 12 was not an MTP device pcscd is running but pcsc_scan just says Waiting for the first reader... Anybody know anything about these devices and can advise or point me to good documentation?

3 2

Re: Leap 15.4 installation help
by George Pappap 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

Well I can confirm that the 15.4 installer is working now onto this specific system. Thanks everybody for helping. On 6/24/22 12:47, George Pappap wrote: > That was about 15.3. My personal taste is that there is something > wrong with the specific motherboard and the leap installer and how is > managed the legacy and uefi settings. Now i downl > On 6/24/22 12:39, Per Jessen wrote: >> On 24/06/2022 11:20, George Pappap wrote: >>> Thanks for responding and i appreciate. It was a well tested usb >>> stick, i was using it before and after for installations, in other >>> words the installation media was ok. >> >> Okay. >> >> > Unfortunately i have not a screenshot as i > lost my courage and >> decided to install Ubuntu. By the way the installer >>> could proceed the steps with an dell laptop i3 i have too keeping >>> the graphical environment. But with this specific system it was >>> passing into the curl version or yast looks like, with a dialogue >>> asking me to chooce installation media! >> >> That sounds like your media isn't perhaps as valid as you think. >> Checksum failure? >> >>

1 0

Re: Leap 15.4 installation help
by Per Jessen 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

On 24/06/2022 11:20, George Pappap wrote: > Thanks for responding and i appreciate. It was a well tested usb stick, > i was using it before and after for installations, in other words the > installation media was ok. Okay. > Unfortunately i have not a screenshot as i > lost my courage and decided to install Ubuntu. By the way the installer > could proceed the steps with an dell laptop i3 i have too keeping the > graphical environment. But with this specific system it was passing > into the curl version or yast looks like, with a dialogue asking me to > chooce installation media! That sounds like your media isn't perhaps as valid as you think. Checksum failure? -- Per Jessen, Herrliberg (24.5°C)

2 1

Leap 15.4 installation help
by George Pappap 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

Hello everybody I have a 6 years old still powerful enough pc. I tried many times to install open suse leap 15.3 but failed. What happened is that the installation media send me to something like yast on terminal to choose media, an action always failing whatever i choose. I send you my hardware list. I am looking for someone facing similar problems and how can be fixed. And i am asking if someone installed leap 15.4 into similar hardware. This pc is running now ubuntu 22.04 Best regards George hwinfo --short cpu: AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor, 3500 MHz AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor, 2500 MHz AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor, 1400 MHz AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor, 3500 MHz AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor, 1400 MHz AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor, 3072 MHz keyboard: /dev/input/event5 Dell Universal Receiver /dev/input/event2 China Resource Semico USB Keyboard mouse: /dev/input/mice Dell Universal Receiver scanner: Epson GT-9300UF [Perfection 2400 PHOTO] monitor: LG ELECTRONICS LG FULL HD graphics card: nVidia GK107 [GeForce GT 640] sound: Creative CA0106/CA0111 [SB Live!/Audigy/X-Fi Series] nVidia GK107 HDMI Audio Controller ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) storage: Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 network: enp3s0 Gigabyte Onboard Ethernet network interface: lo Loopback network interface virbr0 Ethernet network interface enp3s0 Ethernet network interface disk: /dev/sdd TOSHIBA DT01ACA1 /dev/sdb SanDisk SDSSDP12 /dev/sdc WDC WD5000LPVX-7 /dev/sda A SP550 partition: /dev/sdd1 Partition /dev/sdb1 Partition /dev/sdc1 Partition /dev/sdc2 Partition /dev/sda1 Partition /dev/sda2 Partition /dev/sda3 Partition cdrom: /dev/sr0 TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224GB usb controller: Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 VIA VL805 USB 3.0 Host Controller Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 bios: BIOS bridge: AMD Family 15h Processor Function 3 AMD Family 15h Processor Function 1 ATI RD890/RD9x0/RX980 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI Express GPP Port 0) ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller ATI RD9x0/RX980 Host Bridge AMD Family 15h Processor Function 4 AMD Family 15h Processor Function 2 AMD Family 15h Processor Function 0 ATI SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge ATI RD890/RD9x0/RX980 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI Express GPP Port 4) ATI RD890/RD9x0/RX980 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI Express GFX port 0) AMD Family 15h Processor Function 5 hub: Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub NEC HighSpeed Hub Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub NEC HighSpeed Hub Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub memory: Main Memory unknown: FPU DMA controller PIC Keyboard controller ATI RD890S/RD990 I/O Memory Management Unit (IOMMU) ATI SBx00 SMBus Controller Serial controller Dell Universal Receiver Logitech Webcam C270 /dev/input/event3 China Resource Semico USB Keyboard

2 1

Synaptics Touchpad - Not Optimally Configured with xinput, xf86-input-synaptics needed
by David C. Rankin 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

All, After the 15.4 update, my touchpad was slow and I couldn't program a 0.5 second disabling of the touchpad when a key was pressed resulting in problems typing and my palm contacting the touchpad. I have always used syndaemon to disable the touchpad while typing, but it was nowhere to be found. synclient also provides a number of features not available with xinput. Both syndaemon and synclient are in xf86-input-synaptics. Installed, and copied the 70-synaptics.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and restarted X and presto, my touchpad is zinging away again and syndaemon disables the touchpad while typing (but not for control or control+key combos). If your touchpad is a synaptics device, installing xf86-input-synaptics provides a great deal more in configuration. You can check your touchpad with `xinput --list`, e.g. $ xinput --list ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)] ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)] ⎜ ↳ Microsoft Microsoft 3-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM) id=9 [slave pointer (2)] ⎜ ↳ PS/2 Generic Mouse id=12 [slave pointer (2)] ⎜ ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad id=13 [slave pointer (2)] ⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)] ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Power Button id=6 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Video Bus id=7 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Sleep Button id=8 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ HP HD Webcam [Fixed]: HP HD Web id=10 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=11 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ HP WMI hotkeys id=14 [slave keyboard (3)] My synaptics touchpad has id=13. synclient -l will provide a detailed list of capabilities and options (and to a lesser extent 'xinput --list-props 13' will provide the options reachable through xinput) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

1 0

pan parameters windows
by jdd＠dodin.org 22 Jun '22

22 Jun '22

Hello, I try to use pan to read newsgroups. works well, but... when I ask to change a parameter, pan opens a windows that uses all the width of the screen, that is three monitors (4k, hd, full hd). Not very convenient worth a bugzilla? thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org http://valeriedodin.com

3 3

Fwd: Leap 15.4 retro feedback is due to tomorrow night
by Carlos E. R. 22 Jun '22

22 Jun '22

This might be of interest. Maybe you are in time. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Leap 15.4 retro feedback is due to tomorrow night Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 08:14:57 +0000 From: Lubos Kocman <lubos.kocman(a)suse.com> To: factory(a)lists.opensuse.org <factory(a)lists.opensuse.org>, project(a)lists.opensuse.org <project(a)lists.opensuse.org> CC: marketing(a)lists.opensuse.org <marketing(a)lists.opensuse.org>, devel(a)suse.de <devel(a)suse.de> Hello openSUSE! The Leap 15.4 retrospective survey is still open until 22.06.2022 at 23:59 UTC. You can access the survey at survey.opensuse.org. If you downloaded Leap 15.4, please make sure to give us feedback. It will not take more than 2 minutes as the survey has only two questions. We have not received even half of the responses that we have received for 15.3. The openSUSE release team would highly appreciate any sharing or advertisement. Thank you Lubos

1 0

I can't see mails I send to this list?? Only replies. I never know if the mails I send make it.
by David C. Rankin 21 Jun '22

21 Jun '22

All, Since my crappy ISP started blocking mail from opensuse to my suddenlinkmail.com account I have had to switch my account to gmail. The problem is I never see the mails I send, not my original post or my replies to the list. Anybody else using gmail know how to fix this? I also can't use the hyperkitty mail interface because my account still has the suddenlinkmail.com address as my e-mail and when I attempt login, it "sends a verification e-mail..." to my suddenlink address which of course bounces and I never get it. Suggestions? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

6 6

Vagrant + libvirt: question about removing boxes
by Nicolas Kovacs 21 Jun '22

21 Jun '22

Hi, I'm running the Vagrant/libvirt combination on an OpenSUSE Leap 15.4 box. It's running nicely and performs way better than the Vagrant/VirtualBox setup I've used before. My user (microlinux) is a member of the 'libvirt' system group: $ groups users libvirt So far I've added three boxes to my system: $ vagrant box list roboxes/centos7 (libvirt, 4.0.2) roboxes/oracle7 (libvirt, 4.0.2) roboxes/rhel7 (libvirt, 4.0.2) These boxes are stored in ~/vagrant.d: $ find .vagrant.d/ -name *.img .vagrant.d/boxes/roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-centos7/4.0.2/libvirt/box.img .vagrant.d/boxes/roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-oracle7/4.0.2/libvirt/box.img .vagrant.d/boxes/roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-rhel7/4.0.2/libvirt/box.img $ du -sh .vagrant.d/ 2,4G .vagrant.d/ After initializing and running the boxes, they seem to be copied to /var/lib/libvirt/images: # cd /var/lib/libvirt/images/ # ls *box.img roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-centos7_vagrant_box_image_4.0.2_box.img roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-oracle7_vagrant_box_image_4.0.2_box.img roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-rhel7_vagrant_box_image_4.0.2_box.img Let's say I want to remove these boxes, here's what I would do: $ vagrant box remove roboxes/rhel7 $ vagrant box remove roboxes/oracle7 $ vagrant box remove roboxes/centos7 The boxes are effectively wiped from ~/vagrant.d: $ du -sh .vagrant.d/ 56K .vagrant.d/ $ find .vagrant.d/ -name *.img But their copies still remain in /var/lib/libvirt/images: # cd /var/lib/libvirt/images # ls *box.img roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-centos7_vagrant_box_image_4.0.2_box.img roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-oracle7_vagrant_box_image_4.0.2_box.img roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-rhel7_vagrant_box_image_4.0.2_box.img So here's my question: is there a way to get 'vagrant box remove' also wipe the images in /var/lib/libvirt/images? Thanks & cheers from the sunny South of France, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

3 3

The end of pop3 on gmail?
by Gustav Degreef 21 Jun '22

21 Jun '22

Hello, I've searched on google for a solution but from what I've read, it seems like thunderbird will no longer be able to access gmail accounts using pop3. I received a notice from google, that after May 30 I will no longer be ale to retrieve mail using username/password. Oauth 2.0 apparently is only available for imap and not pop3 and 2sv with app passwords is not possible with thunderbird. Is there an alternative way to keep using thunderbird with pop3, so as to not have to leave mail on google's servers?

12 30

15.4 minicom can't connect to ttyACM0 as user -- only root (after connection setup as root)
by David C. Rankin 20 Jun '22

20 Jun '22

All, Something has changed in 15.4 related to access serial devices over USB in 15.4 and I can't figure out what? Here is the setup. I have several microcontrollers I connect to my laptop over USB. (TI MSP432 and RM46). In 15.0 after saving the connection parameters as root, I could connect to the devices on ttyACM0 as my normal user. However in 15.4, minicom refuses to connect saying can't get a lock on ttyACM0. (if I run minicom as root, then it works just fine) This has other implications as well. I use TI Code Composer Studio as the IDE for the microcontroller code. It provides arm versions of gcc, clang and the TI compiler. It also needs to connect over ttyACM0 to update the XDS110 debug probe firmware and to flash new programs to the microcontroller's flash memory. This worked seamlessly as user in 15.0. It now cannot update the firmware or flash new programs to the microcontrollers (see error at end) I suspect this may be a group issue. In 15.0 there was the adm group GID 485, that I made myself a member of. (I'm not positive this is the group at issue, but...) The adm group is not present in 15.4. Is this the culprit? All other groups seem to be common between 15.0 and 15.4. If not the adm group -- what else could it be? I had no issues using ttyACM0 as my user in 15.0 and now in 15.4 it seems I lack some type of permission to use it. The error thrown by CCS is: CS_DAP_0: Error initializing emulator: (Error -260 @ 0x0) An attempt to connect to the XDS110 failed. The cause may be one or more of: no XDS110 is connected, invalid firmware update, invalid XDS110 serial number, or faulty USB cable. The firmware and serial number may be updated using the xdsdfu utility found in the .../ccs_base/common/uscif/xds110 directory of your installation. View the XDS110SupportReadMe.pdf file there for instructions. (Emulation package 9.7.0.00213) I'm connected to it in an xterm watching the output of a MPU9850 update at 100 HZ right now -- it's connected and working (this rules out a faulty USB cable as well). The firmware update is also fine. So it looks like the same permission issue with can't get a lock on ttyACM0 that minicom complains of. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

5 10

run sh executable fails
by Patrick Shanahan 19 Jun '22

19 Jun '22

I have a new Tumbleweed box with a build environment that acts peculiar to me. cd to build directory execute build.sh succeeds but, time build.sh fails ??? execute time sh build.sh succeeds on another box: cd to build directory execute time build.sh succeeds what is the difference? my aged memory is failing me here :( tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

4 10

Tumbleweed with 5.18.1 : Problem with NVidia driver
by Peter Maffter 19 Jun '22

19 Jun '22

Using NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-390.151.run for an older GTX 570 to create the NVidia modules worked up to now with Suse Tumbleweed. Updated today to 5.18.1-1-default #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC and this stopped working. No X11, no graphical system. :-( It seems to be a NVidia issue,see here for the problems on ARCH: https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/issues/256 Is there some good description for going back to nouveau driver for Suse Tumbleweed? Thanks in advance Pete

5 12

update patch fails
by Marc Chamberlin 19 Jun '22

19 Jun '22

I have an openSuSE 15.3 x64 system which received a few updates and one of them - *patch:openSUSE-2022-124-1.noarch***has a dependencies problem that I don't know how to resolve. nothing provides 'libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.29)(64bit)' needed by the to be installed libre2-9-20220401-bp153.5.12.1.x86_64 The version of libstdc++ installed on my system is 10.3.0+git1587 The actions Yast2 updater wants to take, to resolve this issue, is to delete a whole lot of important packages, or not install the patch, or to break a whole lot of packages. None of these seem like a good idea, so what is this poor user to do? Thanks as always in advance for some kind guru answering my question! Marc C. -- *"The Truth is out there" - Spooky* *_ _ . . . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ _ . . . . _ . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ . . . . _ _ . _ . . _ . _ _ _ _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . * Computers: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the user Marc. His mission: to explore strange new hardware. To seek out new software and new applications. To boldly go where no Marc has gone before! (/This email is digitally signed and the OpenPGP electronic signature is added as an attachment. If you know how, you can use my public key to prove this email indeed came from me and has not been modified in transit. My public key, which can be used for sending encrypted email to me also, can be found at - https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=marc@marcchamberlin.com or just ask me for it and I will send it to you as an attachment. If you don't understand all this geek speak, no worries, just ignore this explanation and ignore the OpenPGP signature key attached to this email (it will look like gibberish if you open it) and/or ask me to explain it further if you like./)

4 14

Amarok stops
by James Knott 19 Jun '22

19 Jun '22

Since installing 15.4, I've noticed Amarok frequently stops. With 15.3, it would play for hours without issue. Anyone else notice this? Looking that the title line right now, I don't see a next song listed. I do see the previous song, which it stopped after. I then had to click on play again. It's Amarok v 2.9.71

2 5

updating a system hardwareside mbr -> gpt
by Simon Becherer 19 Jun '22

19 Jun '22

Hi, i have a new computer with ssd (nvme0n1) 1tb and 3tb hdd (hda) old system have had hda 1tb hdb 2tb both hdd's are bootable (hda tumbleweed graphic kde, hdb old tumbleweed only shell, for backup + problem sovling +..) both systems amd main processor amd graphics format of both disks is ext4 both computers are switched to old style bios (uefi switched off) systems use "hardware name" (free translation from german) in fstab (hda1... nvme0n1p1 ...) copied everything to the new system (using dd) now of course the new hda1 is 2tb and have a 1tb unused. because i did not like to have a second partition on it, i have to change to gpt. hdd boot ok ssd boot after changing initramfs, fstab grub commandline and maybe some other small things. now to my question (for ssd (to be more modern) and hdd (because of the 3tb)): 1) what would be the best way to change mbr to gpt -> maybe using gdisk? https://superuser.com/questions/1250895/converting-between-gpt-and-mbr-hard… https://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/mbr2gpt.html -> i do not understand clearly, will it then still be bootable / and 100% correct gpt or is this only a "it will work (with or even unusable for me without booting)" solution? 2) i found in /etc/default/grub_installdevice one line: generic_mbr i guess that this info has to be changed, what must be insert here instead of "generic_mbr" regards, simoN -- www.becherer.de

6 49

Symbiote - Impossible-to-Detect Linux Threat
by David C. Rankin 19 Jun '22

19 Jun '22

All (especially anyone running a server), There apparently is a nasty bit of Linux malware I hadn't been privy to until tonight. The report is: https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ The design is incredibly sophisticated, to the point of hooking execve for ldd and scrubbing it's own name from the list of shared objects returned. The sticky-wicket is it is hard to discover even if you are looking for it. Worth passing along to put a few more openSUSE eyes smarter than mine on it. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

10 18

my upgrade goof
by bent fender 18 Jun '22

18 Jun '22

Just upped 15.3 to 15.4 but I think I made a mistake. Looking at the auto selected packages I thought 'let's upgrade almost everything' and ended up with a 1-hour run. Then to make things worse (and maybe because og my goof) the subsequent on-line update with yast took anothe hour. Later today I'm going to upgrade the Leap partition on my g73 laptop but think I should only upgrade the auto-selected packages. Would this upgrade everything that needs upgrading to become 15.4?

2 1

Tumbleweed: Can’t login, loops me back to login screen
by Martin /Nightowl/ Byttebier 17 Jun '22

17 Jun '22

Hello, After an update yesterday I found that I’m stuck at the login screen. After typing my password the screen goes black for a few seconds then I’m back at the login again. The same applies for root. I'm using latest Tumbleweed (20220613) with X11. Wayland doesn't help either. I can login using IceWM though. Any idea how I can solve this? Martin -- UTSI: http://users.telenet.be/tos4ever/utsi.htm Atari FTP-site: ftp://kurobox.serveftp.net:3021 Running openSUSE Leap 15.4 / KDE 5.24.4

3 12

Microsucky Idiot-Bar VS Details-View
by bent fender 17 Jun '22

17 Jun '22

I notice that the very useful details view in Suse install, ugrade and yast update are GONE! Why? I find the details view indispensable. The button to select it has been edited out. -- "One has eaten the full meaning of life when willing to plant a tree under which one knows full well that one will never sit." Source unknown, many candidates.

4 4

15.4 - chgrp of files I own "Operation not permitted"?? chmod setgid must be root after chgrp?? Apparmor??
by David C. Rankin 16 Jun '22

16 Jun '22

All, I am totally bewildered at the behavior of setting basic file permissions and ownership on 15.4. I cannot change the group on files I own. (WTF?). I cannot set or unset setgid on directories on directories I own with octets (I can with the g+s syntax) Is this apparmor or some other security setting? It wasn't this way with 15.0. Take for example a directory I own and have full write capability to: 00:02 wizard:~/tmp> l -d ./ drwxr-xr-x 10 david david 4096 Jun 15 23:01 ./ Now let's create a new directory named "foo": $ md foo $ l -d ./foo/ drwxr-xr-x 2 david david 4096 Jun 16 00:03 ./foo/ So far so good. Let's change the group to "skyline" of which I'm the sole member, e.g. $ grep skyline /etc/group skyline:x:1000:david $ chown david:skyline foo chown: changing ownership of 'foo': Operation not permitted Huh?? What gives? Why can't I change directory ownership of "foo" to "skyline". That's really bad. Why would I have to be root to set group ownership on a directory I own? But I do: $ sudo chown david:skyline foo $ l -d ./foo drwxr-xr-x 2 david skyline 4096 Jun 16 00:03 ./foo Alright, can I at least set it setgid now so that the files created within it will have the proper permissions: $ chmod 2755 foo $ l -d ./foo drwxr-xr-x 2 david skyline 4096 Jun 16 00:03 ./foo What? Why didn't that work? Can I at least use 'g+s'? $ chmod g+s foo $ l -d ./foo drwxr-xr-x 2 david skyline 4096 Jun 16 00:03 ./foo What? Do I have to be root to do that? What gives? $ sudo chmod 2755 foo $ l -d ./foo drwxr-sr-x 2 david skyline 4096 Jun 16 00:03 ./foo Damnit! This is going to get old quick. I've never had to be root to set group ownership before. There are no ACL's set, so that's not it either. Is there an apparmor rule or something that is doing this? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

3 6

15.4 FreeCAD Segfaults Opening Example (libc.so.6)
by David C. Rankin 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

All, Anyone using FreeCAD on 15.4. After opening FreeCAD (starts fine), clicking on the first example file causes SegFault: $ FreeCAD FreeCAD 0.19, Libs: 0.19RUnknown © Juergen Riegel, Werner Mayer, Yorik van Havre and others 2001-2021 FreeCAD is free and open-source software licensed under the terms of LGPL2+ license. FreeCAD wouldn't be possible without FreeCAD community. ##### #### ### #### # # # # # # # ## #### #### # # # # # #### # # # # # # # ##### # # # # #### #### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ## ## ## # # #### #### ### # # #### ## ## ## connect failed: No such file or directory Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. #0 /lib64/libc.so.6(+0x4ad70) [0x7fef891bbd70] If someone can confirm, I'll write the bug report. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

1 2

If it's plugged-in it should sound
by bent fender 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Over 30 years of computing and it's in Leap-15.3 that for a first time I see something done the right way: with a guitar fx-board output plugged into my soundcard's 1/4" Line-In jack I can actually HEAR it *even before logging-in* (pulse is used). Interestingly enough this feature is not there in bleeding-edge Tumbleweed :-))) QUESTION: Is it detactable if some instrument is actually plugged into the sound card? If it is then this is the way to go, I mean if I plug something in it's because I want to hear it and it should be default, no? Would be nice to see this in TW as well all the same, even if it's an unintended bug! -- Artificial Stupidity will never be competitive.

3 3

tcsh does not work
by Wolfgang Mueller 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Today at 13:00 my other computer suddenly became dark in KDE under Leap 15.4, recently installed. Then I opened a console and found out that tcsh does not work any more. I prepared three very simple scripts for testing purposes: -rwxr-xr-x 1 wolfgang 28 Jun 14 15:41 script.tcsh -rwxr-xr-x 1 wolfgang 27 Jun 14 15:57 script.sh -rwxr-xr-x 1 wolfgang 29 Jun 14 15:45 script.bash script.tcsh, consists of these 2 lines: #!/bin/csh echo 'Hi, world' script.sh, consists of these 2 lines: #!/bin/sh echo 'Hi, world and script.bash, consists of these 2 lines: #!/bin/bash echo 'Hi, world' Invoking them directly fails, yielding the error messages: script.tcsh: Command not found. script.sh: Command not found. script.bash: Command not found. When I invoke one of them specifying "tcsh", i.e. tcsh-prompt> tcsh script.tcsh the script hangs and has to be dropped with CTRL C. The same for tcsh-prompt> sh script.sh and tcsh-prompt> bash script.bash. The only way to make the scripts work is invoking them in a bash session. Now bash-prompt> tcsh script.tcsh hangs again, but bash-prompt> sh script.sh and bash-prompt> bash script.bash work correctly, producing the output Hi, world But even in a bash session, it is not possible to invoke the scripts directly. Anyway, I urgently need tcsh, having a lot of scripts working under tcsh or csh only. Thanks in advance for your help, Wolfgang

3 9

Ultimaker Cura 3D Printing Software Crashes on Start-up. Missing python-sentry-sdk
by David C. Rankin 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

All, Cura for 3D Printing is also broken: $ cura Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/cura", line 27, in <module> from cura.CrashHandler import CrashHandler File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/cura/CrashHandler.py", line 15, in <module> import sentry_sdk ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'sentry_sdk' That's easily fixable: # zypper in python3-sentry-sdk Bug opened: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1200546 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

1 0

Leap 15.4 Darktable doesn't start
by Peter McD 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Hi, Updated from Leap 15.3 to Leap 15.4 today. No problems so far, except(!) Darktable doesn't work anymore. I have been using Darktable 3.8 with Leap 15.3. After the upgrade there was Darktable 3.6, which is standard in leap 15.4. Neither Darktable icon nor console as user could start the program. console printed: peter@lux-2:~> darktable darktable: error while loading shared libraries: libdarktable.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Something is missing. Peter

7 19

SAMBA open is very slow
by Roger Oberholtzer 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

I have a 15.3 system that uses SAMBA to share file systems between a couple systems. I have used that in 15.1 and it has worked very well. On 15.3 clients, I see that file open calls can be extremely slow, like taking a minute to complete. Later access is ok. It is the open that takes so long. Or so it appears. I have not changed the share or mount options from 15.1 when it was working okay. The systems were upgraded recently via zypper dup, so I expect that my original settings are the same. I see that it is the open call via strace on the programs that are accessing the files. They are doing a simple open() call. Nothing specific to SAMBA. Just a simple open. I'm not sure where to look. Google didn't provide much help. Maybe my search keys were bad. Anyone see this behavior on openSUSE? I'm running the default (I hope): 4.13.4+git -- Roger Oberholtzer

2 1

Re: Issues with 15.4 and Firefox video - is Packman broken?
by Carlos E. R. 14 Jun '22

14 Jun '22

On 2022-06-14 17:37, Larry Len Rainey wrote: > I reposted this on the packman mailing list after I was told that is > should be in that instead of factory. > > The issue is that both a fresh install and the upgrade did not change to > Packman version as the libavcodec58 is older than the ones in the > OpenSUSE repos. > > The only thing that was needed to install them was this: (repo 1 is > Packman). > > zypper in -f -r 1 --oldpackage libavcodec58_134 > Well, that means that the command you run initially was wrong, as I suspected. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)

1 0

openSUSE Leap 15.4: The best desktop on the RPM side of the Linux world
by David C. Rankin 14 Jun '22

14 Jun '22

Good press on El Reg, https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/10/review_opensuse_leap_154/?utm_source… Very good article, even the disclosure :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

3 2

15.4 - When I switch drives, what is rewriting the grub menu? os-prober? How to turn it off? (remove it?)
by David C. Rankin 14 Jun '22

14 Jun '22

All, One annoying quirk of 15.4 is it rewrites the grub boot menu when I change drives. I don't want it to do that. I just stuck the windows drive in, and it wiped out the 15.0 chainload and boot. How do I stop this from happening? Remove os-prober (if that is what is doing it?) Or does 15.4 use something else to rewrite the grub menu when disks change? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

4 6

Network Manager
by Wolfgang Mueller 13 Jun '22

13 Jun '22

I tried to install the Network Manager in the following way: Yast > System > Network Settings > Global Options > Network Setup Method > ( Wicked Service | Network Manager | Network Services Disabled ) After selecting "Network Manager" and clicking "ok", the following warning message appeared in a small pop-up window: Applet needed NetworkManager is controlled by desktop applet (KDE plasma widget and nm-applet for GNOME). Be sure it's running and if not, start it manually. How and where can I get the KDE plasma widget mentioned in the previous message and how do I install and start it? How do I program the Network Manager? Thanks in advance for your help? Wolfgang

3 2

Change install method
by James Knott 13 Jun '22

13 Jun '22

For years, I have been copying the full ISO to a USB stick for installation. I just realized I should now be using the NET install image, because my Internet speed is faster than USB 2! Until a couple of years ago, my download bandwidth was 75 Mb or less. It's now officially 500 Mb, but actually around 900 Mb. USB 2 tops out 480, assuming appropriate hardware.

6 13

Zypper DL hang
by bent fender 12 Jun '22

12 Jun '22

It often happens that some package download hangs at some % which forces the user into retry/abort/ignore. Sometimes the same file(s) will hang for a day or two, or weeks. Why do they make the list at all if they don't download proper? Retry seldom fixes the problem, aborting was not the purpose behind launching zypper, and ignore just skips the download. Then comes the misleading message "Installation has completed with error" which SHOULD be "Installation aborted due to incomplete download". Maybe the options should include "abort, skip, redo-depends and keep truckin'"? Right now it's these 2: @ 64%: libx264-161-32bit-0.161+git20200912.d198931a-2.34.x86_64.rpm @ 65%: transcode-1.1.7-11.46.x86_64.rpm

1 0

External hard drive failing?
by Jeffrey Taylor 12 Jun '22

12 Jun '22

I have a Verbatim external USB 3.0 hard drive. For the second time in a month, my laptop running Leap 15.3, fails to recognize when it's plugged in. The light on the drive lights up when it's plugged in, sothe drive recognizes the laptop. The laptop is a Lenovo T520. The ports are USB 2.0. Rebooting the laptop does not help. Shutting the laptop for an hour does help. Any of this sound familiar? Is USB port failing? Probably not, same thing happens regardless of which port the hard drive is plugged into. Hard drive failing or something in the kernel messing up? TIA, Jeffrey

5 6

[Leap 15] Anyone using ProtonVPN with openSUSE?
by Bob Williams 12 Jun '22

12 Jun '22

Has anyone successfully setup ProtonVPN with openSUSE? If so, can they point me to an idiot's guide, please? Proton supply a desktop app for Fedora and other RPM based distributions, but not for openSUSE. My system is a fully up-to-date Leap 15.4. openvpn is installed. I've tried installing the CLI NetworkManager scripts (eg. ch-uk-01.protonvpn.com.udp) with the following settings Gateway: 185.159.157.12 Connection type: Password CA Certificate: ~/.local/share/networkmanagement/certificates/ch-uk-01.protonvpn.com.udp/ca.crt Username: my proton username copied from my Proton account settings Password: my proton password copied from my Proton account settings IPv4 Method: Automatic IPv6 Method: Automatic However, nothing happens when I click on Connect in NetworkManager. Thank you Bob -- Bob Williams

3 13

Fwd: After installing Leap 15.4, zypper and YaST can't see repositories.
by Darryl Gregorash 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

Felix Miata posted this message to the Support list yesterday. So can we please cease all the talk about broken this or that, or even (gasp) some possible conspiracy at o.o to baffle mere mortals. The mirrors are largely broken, so be patient until they are fixed. Go directly to the best mirror for your location (you can get the list on the get.o.o page) and download matching ISO and checksum files. Perhaps someone from the oS admin team would be so kind as to post here and in Support when the mirror problems have been fixed? -------- Forwarded Message -------- J Leslie Turriff composed on 2022-06-10 19:47 (UTC-0500): ... Based on what I've seen on IRC opensuse-admin today, going back many hours, they have been trying to sort out complicated mirror and redirection problems. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

1 0

Leap 15.4 offline image fails check
by James Knott 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

After downloading the ISO and sha256sum files, I checked the integrity, but it failed. > sha256sum -c openSUSE-Leap-15.4-DVD-x86_64-Media.iso.sha256 sha256sum: openSUSE-Leap-15.4-DVD-x86_64-Media.iso: No such file or directory openSUSE-Leap-15.4-DVD-x86_64-Media.iso: FAILED open or read sha256sum: WARNING: 1 listed file could not be read I then copied the ISO to a USB stick, using SUSE Studio Imagewriter and booted the image to do media check, but it failed.

12 51

Re: SMS vs whatever
by Per Jessen 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

jdd(a)dodin.org wrote: > Le 28/05/2022 à 17:54, Patrick Shanahan a écrit : > >> nothing is free (of charge) but hidden within (THE plan). but yes, >> sms does not incur *additional* charges on most accounts now, but did >> in the past. >> > > still do :-( Not for about ten years. (in my case). > I can phone for free to my LA living daugther, but If I send her a > SMS, I'm charged :-(, whats'app, messenger are free :-( Okay, so intercontinental SMS'es have a price :-) I can also come up with exceptions to prove the rule, equally far fetched. Specifically wrt SMS, in my business we have been using it for 15+ years for sending critical system alerts. Apart from having to change the setup, if I can post secure messages to Telegram/Discord/Matrix from the command line (from a script), I might have a look. (provided those services are as reliable as the telcos). -- Per Jessen, Zürich (18.9°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes

9 29

Why does "zypper up" show updates that will NOT be installed, but "zypper dup" omits them?
by David C. Rankin 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

All, After 15.4 was official, I went with a zypper up for updates today and was presented with: The following 31 package updates will NOT be installed: desktop-data-openSUSE icewm icewm-default icewm-lang icewm-theme-branding keepassxc keepassxc-lang libKF5Cddb5 libKF5Kipi32_0_0 libKF5MediaWiki5 libavcodec57 libavformat57 libavutil55 libkcddb libkcddb-lang libpostproc54 libpython2_7-1_0 libswresample2 libvlc5 libvlccore9 patterns-devel-python-devel_python3 pdftk python-rpm-generators python-rpm-macros python3-dbus-python vlc vlc-codec-gstreamer vlc-lang vlc-noX vlc-qt vlc-vdpau (there were 16 packages to update) Trying, I gave another "zypper dup" and it omitted the "updates will NOT be installed:" list, but provided the same 16 packages to update. Why the "updates will NOT be installed:" list with "zypper up" and not with "zypper dup"? Will the "updates will NOT be installed:" just get bigger and bigger with time? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

3 6

Connection refused
by Wolfgang Mueller 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

Yesterday I upgraded one of my computers to Leap 15.4. Everything works fine except for problems with the network. When I try to connect to it from outside by ssh, it answers: ssh: connect to host az port 22: Connection refused At first I thought it was a firewall problem. So, I stopped firewalld and changed the start mode to "manual" in yast. But that did not help. How can I allow connections from outside again? Thank you in advance, Wolfgang

7 14

localhost inaccessible to browsers
by Wolfgang Mueller 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

Having installed Leap 15.4 with KDE on one of my computers, I have a strange problem with browsing, being localhost inaccessible to Firefox (version 101.0) as well as to Chromium and Google Chrome (both version 102.0.5005.xxx). This is very boring for developing a web page. Replacing localhost by "az", the computer's name, or "192.168.2.17", its internal IP address, does not help; these specifications are likewise rejected. But "ping localhost", "ping az" and "ping 192.168.2.17" work fine. There is no problem with accessing any other internal or external address. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Wolfgang

4 5

Re: Your confirmation is needed to leave the users@lists.opensuse.org mailing list.
by Robert Williams 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 11:22:57 +0000 users-confirm+d24278b0eb97bf6bff7f2b187e4c6a0d6a0a19a4(a)lists.opensuse.org wrote: > Email Address Unsubscription Confirmation > > Hello, this is the GNU Mailman server at lists.opensuse.org. > > We have received an unsubscription request for the email address > > bob.williams(a)karmasailing.uk > > Before GNU Mailman can unsubscribe you, you must first confirm your > request. You can do this by simply replying to this message. > > Or you should include the following line -- and only the following > line -- in a message to users-request(a)lists.opensuse.org: > > confirm d24278b0eb97bf6bff7f2b187e4c6a0d6a0a19a4 > > Note that simply sending a `reply' to this message should work from > most mail readers. > > If you do not wish to unsubscribe this email address, simply > disregard this message. If you think you are being maliciously > unsubscribed from the list, or have any other questions, you may > contact > > users-owner(a)lists.opensuse.org -- Robert Williams bob.williams(a)karmasailing.uk +44 (0)1903 866960

1 0

Note: Update of Thunderbird past 91esr will make irreversible changes to profile (backup before update)
by David C. Rankin 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

All, As part of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1772023 I tested with Thunderbird 102 Beta. There are a number of changes between 91 and 102 (for the good, new address book format -- no more Mork!, etc.) that will make irreversible changes to your thunderbird profile. If you are considering "checking out" a new version of tbird, make a backup of your current profile before trying the new version (thunderbird wisely creates a new profile, but for testing CPU use, I needed to use the same account setup). The downside of the new profile creation is if you have a number of mail and calendar accounts to integrate, creating a new profile from scratch will be tedious and the sync of all mail headers, indexing, etc.. can be extensive if you have a large mail-store. So after backup, you can point thunderbird to your existing profile with the '-profile /path/to/your/profile' option and it will use and convert your existing profile to the new format. (but without a back, you will be unable to use the old version of thunderbird with that profile) The good new is High CPU use is gone in 102 beta... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

5 6

Firefox 101 faster?
by James Knott 10 Jun '22

10 Jun '22

After installing Leap 15.4, I updated Firefox to v101. It appears to be a lot faster and more responsive than the v95 I had been running with 15.3. BTW, why is v91 still provided with 15.4? Shouldn't something more current be offered?

9 15

Trying to install Leap 15.4
by Siard 10 Jun '22

10 Jun '22

Hi, I am trying to install Leap 15.4. But during the installation of packages, I get messages like these: YaST2 Installation of package ca-certificates failed. Details: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: Command exited with status 1. History: - error: failed to exec scriptlet interpreter /bin/sh: Permission denied error: %prein(ca-certificates-2+git20210309.21162a6-2.1.noarch) scriptlet failed, exit status 127 error: ca-certificates-2+git20210309.21162a6-2.1.noarch: install failed YaST2 Installation of package python3-six failed. Details: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: Command exited with status 1. History: - error: failed to exec scriptlet interpreter /bin/sh: Permission denied error: %prein(python3-six-1.14.0-12.1.noarch) scriptlet failed, exit status 127 error: python3-six-1.14.0-12.1.noarch: install failed I click 'Ignore' every time, and then this message appears: YaST2 Warning Ignoring a package failure may result in a broken system. The system should be later verified by running the Software Management module. And the list of uninstallable packages goes on and on: python3-pip wireless-tools systemd-presets-common-SUSE sg3_utils netcfg login_defs klogd issue-generator cyrus-sasl systemd-presets-branding-openSUSE iputils ebtables device-mapper shadow kbd alsa-utils lockdev etc. I had the same problem when trying to install 15.3. I did manage to install TW, however. Does anybody have any idea what could be the problem here?

8 19

Leap-15.4 vanilla kernel "make install" broken
by Mark Hounschell 10 Jun '22

10 Jun '22

I did an upgrade today using a DVD. I built and run vanilla kernels. All was going well until I did a "make install". What I got was this: harley:/usr/src/linux-5.15.46# make install arch/x86/Makefile:142: CONFIG_X86_X32 enabled but no binutils support sh ./arch/x86/boot/install.sh 5.15.46 \ arch/x86/boot/bzImage System.map "/boot" Cannot find LILO. harley:/usr/src/linux-5.15.46# On 15.3 the kernel install scripts call /sbin/installkernel from the dracut package. That file seems to be missing from 15.4. Is there a reason why? Thanks Mark

2 3

Re: Why all the fear?
by Lukáš Krejza 10 Jun '22

10 Jun '22

Dne čtvrtek 2. června 2022 21:13:37 CEST, iob napsal(a): <snip> > pretty much same here. snapper is enabled for example. Never had a > serious problem and never used those fancy stuff. it was not always > perfect and with some configuration here and there, i consider TW > stable for a rolling distro. > > But in the other side, i think it is very easy to mess up or break the > system. Usually with some repo that you found online or someone > recommended etc. > > IMO one of the reasons for the fear comes from the lack of good/working > documentation and tutorial. > Yeah, that is why i mentioned documentation as one of the three most important parts that should be mentioned on the openSUSE web page here: [1]. But i guess nobody cares or noticed that, since the thread got massively off-topic. [1]: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/ message/V76ABRHJ6AYC5S4UW5CE4TLQYUNZZRUW/ Regards, Gryffus

1 0

How can I change my mail address in bugzilla.
by Peter McD 10 Jun '22

10 Jun '22

Hi, I reported a bug to bugzilla and noticed that my mail address is no longer valid. I could log in, but any mail will not reach me. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=darktable&list_id=136… The page doesn't have or hides very successfully the location where I could change my email address. "Preferences" point to "Account Information" but wants too much information. Alternatively I could cancel my account and open a new one. But where? Peter

5 10

Final zypper dup done for 15.4 - Working Fantastic - It's a keeper.
by David C. Rankin 09 Jun '22

09 Jun '22

All, Final zypper dup done, laptop, with proprietary nvidia drivers, working wonderfully. Hats off to the openSUSE devs. Fluxbox and KDE3 tweaked and configured to perfection. Wonderful dark themes for both, all 10,000 (guess) apps that are normally installed, plus gcc11 working fine. Fresh install to ext4, and I really have no complaints to report (we did have to pull the 15.3 desktop-data-openSUSE-15.0.20171024-lp153.1.53.noarch.rpm To restore menu categories that were stripped out by Gnome (okay, that's a complaint, but there is also a workaround, so nice tidy xdg menu categorization restored) Tbird CPU usage is also a complaint -- but openSUSE has nothing to due with that one, bug filed with Mozilla and confirmed it is fixed in Tbird 102 (so that's a wash too) That's small potatoes "complaints". Desktops in best shape I've ever seen (that's saying a lot considering I've use KDE since long before 3.5.10), Libreoffice, imagemagick, gimp, inkscape (it has made the gtk transition - finally), pdftk, pngquant, etc... all the "tools of creation" working fine. Mariadb and Postgresql up running no issue. Samba makes my $HOME files available on my phone, all is good. Here is to 15.4 going down in the records with 15.0, 42.3, 11.4, 11.0, 10.3, 9.0Pro, 8.0Pro, 7.0Pro (boxed sets) as being releases that are remembered fondly. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

3 3

postfix + dovecot + let's encrypt (certbot) - Seamless ssl/tls mail certificate
by David C. Rankin 09 Jun '22

09 Jun '22

All, Probably old news to most who run their own mail servers, but for years I simply used self-signed certs for mail and used Let's Encrypt for my web servers. Turns out it's trivial to use the same certs for both. The key is you need to have both an A and MX record for your mail host and then add that fqdn (Expand) your Let's Encrypt certificate to include the mail host fqdn. While most mail clients would simply allow you to add an exception for your annual change for self-signed certs, leave it to apple to make things difficult and complain. So tired of fighting with IOS, it was time to simply use a legitimate cert. (makes apple instantly happy, not reboots to clear cache or 3 forced mail checks is rapid succession to have it add a new exception) If you are interested, here are three links that tie it altogether. Note that different web-servers will have difference setups/processes for requesting your original or expended cert. (there is a manual method as well) https://serverfault.com/q/999409/332034 https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/how-to-add-mail-server-to-existing-cert… https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/dovecot-certificate/145441/9 Simple solution. The only change to dovecot.conf is to point it to the let's encrypt certs instead of self-signed. Should have taken the time to do this years ago when I did the web server. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

4 3

Leap 15.4 - task bar buttons NFG
by James Knott 08 Jun '22

08 Jun '22

Previously, when clicking on a taskbar app button, if there were multiple windows open, a list would appear. Now, it cycles through open windows, instead of listing them. How can this be fixed?

2 2

Firefox 95
by James Knott 08 Jun '22

08 Jun '22

I had been running Firefox 95.0.1 with 15.3. Is there similar with 15.4? The installed version is 91.100 and when I run it, it complains about an older version and says to create a new profile. tnx jk

2 2

Leap 15.4 - Konsole no icon
by James Knott 08 Jun '22

08 Jun '22

In Leap 15.4, there doesn't seem to be an icon for Konsole. I just see a blank area and it's not listed in icons under applications.

2 2

Leap vs Tumbleweed a few questions
by Carl Spitzer {L Juno} 08 Jun '22

08 Jun '22

I know I should have done the upgrade long ago but work has been crazy. I have one laptop still 15.2 which apparently needs to upgrade to 15.3 and then to 15.4 . I also have a neighbors old Gateway which is 64 bit which could go the 15.4 route directly or Tumbleweed. What I am wondering with all this complexity should I just switch to Tumbleweed rolling release and skip all the extra work. What is your experience with either??? I know kde3 is going away unless that one guy takes control of it but I find Trinity aka kde 3.5.12 is available for both the 15.x series and Tumbleweed. I just wish Evolution could be repaired to use mbox for the filters I have created. I do not need M$ exchange comparability. CWSIV

7 11

2 questions about Leap 15.4 release
by Darryl Gregorash 05 Jun '22

05 Jun '22

Build 243.2 dated 28 May is now available on my closest mirror. Is this the actual Gold Master, and if so, are there any issues which would suggest against an early update to 15.4? Server loads are likely to be heavy next Wednesday, and I would like to avoid that if at all possible. Second question: I note there are no .torrent files for 15.4 (in fact, all such files have been removed for all 15.x releases). Are these gone forever? It's a shame if that is so, since torrent sharing is the fastest way to distribute the ISO files, and significantly reduces the load on the mirrors once everyone starts downloading them.

4 6

Since 15.4 is now GM - Will my next zypper dup by my LAST zypper dup?
by David C. Rankin 04 Jun '22

04 Jun '22

All, Factory announced 15.4 is no Gold Master. So will my next zypper dup be the last zypper dup for 15.4, and then zypper up after that? Or is there some other milestone I should look for to know when to switch from zypper dup to zypper up? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

4 4

Recover/open/run/whatever Visual Basic?
by Dave Howorth 04 Jun '22

04 Jun '22

I've just downloaded what I believe to be a game coded in Visual Basic. I'd like to recover the source of it, or at least be able to read it, and I'd like to be able to translate the associated data tables to something useful (it's an adventure style game called Quest), but I don't know how. It arrived as a zip file and when unzipped I see a bunch of files. 'file' says most of them are 'MS Compress archive data' and the rest appear to be obviously not of much interest: $ file * ADATA1._: MS Compress archive data ADATA2._: MS Compress archive data OLDS4.FO_: MS Compress archive data OLDS4.TT_: MS Compress archive data QUEST.EX_: MS Compress archive data SETUP1.EX_: MS Compress archive data SETUP.EXE: MS-DOS executable, NE for MS Windows 3.x SETUPKIT.DL_: MS Compress archive data SETUP.LST: ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators VBRUN300.DL_: MS Compress archive data VER.DL_: MS-DOS executable, NE for MS Windows 3.x (driver) My google-foo seems to be a bit weak today :( Can anybody suggest a program that can read those files and turn them into something more manageable?

5 9

[oS-EN] Resizing a window in XFCE
by Carlos E. R. 03 Jun '22

03 Jun '22

Hi, On some of my computers I have a problem: the thresold for picking an edge of the window to resize it (using XFCE) is so narrow that I have to keep moving the mouse for 20 seconds till I manage to get hold of it. First the horizontal, then the vertical. Forget about grabbing the corner. Where can I adjust it? Not in mouse settings. :-? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)

2 2

Thunderbird (and now Firefox) intermittently causing high CPU load
by gumb 02 Jun '22

02 Jun '22

I'm on Leap 15.3. Held off the update from Thunderbird 78esr to 91esr for quite a long time because I'd read of one or two issues and knew it might be best to wait a while. Now, let me state that I've been using Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days about twenty years ago. It's always been rock solid stable, sometimes a bit old and clunky but absolutely reliable, more so than just about any other software I use. I also understand that open source developers don't get enthused by criticism and they give their free time and energy and we should all do our best to show appreciation and be constructive in our conversations and hug trees. With that said, all current Thunderbird developers must die! Okay, I'll back off a bit. After twenty years of rock solid stability I upgraded to 91esr and have run into a catalogue of irritations, some of which I should have actually catalogued because I've now forgotten for a moment what they are, but I'm sure they'll come back to haunt me some more. In the v91 release notes I see lots of happy-clapping for spangly new features that are of no relevance to me. I just want the continued stability. Somebody already remarked on here some time ago that scrolling in the TB message preview pane is now horked. I either have to click or move the mouse about erratically in the pane to get it to scroll. Sometimes it scrolls immediately, other times not, and seems worse when there's images in the mail but no consistency or logic to it. Tried turning on hardware acceleration and for an hour or so thought that had cured it, only for the problem to return many times since. One or two other smaller annoyances I'll just have to put up with for the time being, but I'd like to know if anybody else has witnessed high CPU usage, specifically in Thunderbird 91esr on Leap 15.3? I wondered if it was continually reindexing my twenty years' archive of folders, and at first it seemed to do it fairly routinely once a day in early evening. But then it became more frequent, and now it spins up several times a day. This laptop has been ultra quiet for three years. 8 cores, 32gb of RAM, all of which I barely use. Bought it secondhand-like-new and it's way overspec'd for the mostly mundane tasks I require of it. Only very rarely does a CPU intensive task spin up the fan and make any noise noticeable, briefly. But now Thunderbird is doing this consistently. At this rate, it's going to wipe two years off the lifetime of this machine. I do NOT have the global search and indexer feature enabled. I tried deselecting and reselecting it as OFF just to make sure. If I look in Plasma's System Activity when the high load occurs, I see Thunderbird showing typically between 6 and 22% CPU load whilst most other processes are rarely pushing more than 1 or 2%. There may be subprocesses amongst the bazillion other kworker and whatever garbage things further down the list, but I can't pick out anything for sure. Nothing that nudges more than a percent or two. It's also not the Compact Folders process, because I still only do that manually after a prompt. It just prompted me for the first time in a long while (I have it set to only act with over ~200mb wasted space), and after that ran for a few seconds, my system just went into some kind of hyperdrive like never before witnessed, whilst Baloo reindexed for a few minutes and half the neighbourhood lost power to the centrale nucléaire whilst Mr Linux plays with his email client. And now Firefox has decided to join in the fun and games. Again, the standard latest ESR version for 15.3. Most particularly when I start playing anything in YouTube, but not uniquely that. System Activity usually shows a process 'RDD' consuming one core, and my fan starts going into warp speed again. Never happened before this last week or two. In both Thunderbird and Firefox I've turned off all studies, data collection, error reporting and whatnot to eliminate that. It could be that others have these symptoms but don't notice on their desktop fanless or soundproofed machines. What could be the cause? No I haven't yet filed any bug reports. I'm unsure if it could be openSUSE-specific, perhaps some other dependency like a graphics update that has nothing to do with Mozilla. Too many vague things to know where to even start. And no I haven't tried creating a blank profile because I can be almost certain nothing will go goofy in such an empty profile, and I don't want the inconvenience of setting up and receiving pop mail in a fresh instance and then having to merge it all back into my main mail at a later date. gumb

5 8

XFCE user switcher
by Carlos E. R. 02 Jun '22

02 Jun '22

Hi, On XFCE, using xfce4-screensaver, when it locks, I do not see a button to switch to another user. Is there some way to make it appear? Leap 15.3 -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)

2 2

Zoom on Tumbleweed
by Peter Suetterlin 02 Jun '22

02 Jun '22

Hi list, is anyone else having issues with the latest zoom (5.10.0-2450) on Tumbleweed? It keeps crashing on me, directly at start, even the crash report form doesn't stay on screen, but vanishes before I can type in anything.

2 4

Re: Konversation
by Per Jessen 02 Jun '22

02 Jun '22

Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2022-05-28 11:44, Per Jessen wrote: >> Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >>> On 2022-05-28 10:22, Stefan Seyfried wrote: >>>> On 27.05.22 13:01, Lukáš Krejza wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, when you start Konversation, >>>> >>>> what is this "Konversation" thing? >>> >>> An IRC client that comes preconfigured on Leap, out of the box. >>> >>>> >>>> How can I scroll back in IRC to see what happened the last days? >>>> That's pretty crucial for a time-shifted (non realtime) >>>> communication channel. >>> >>> You can't. >> >> If Konversation remains open, you can scroll back. I have just >> scrolled back to 17 May. > > I can't. I see "now", and the text I got when I tested last night. This is going off-topic on project.lists, switching over to the general list. How long has your Konversation been open for? Mine has been open at least since 17 May. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (20.2°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes

7 17

Why all the fear?
by Lukáš Krejza 01 Jun '22

01 Jun '22

Hey Geekos, First of all, sorry for this cross-post, but it is relevant to all of the lists specified. I am just wondering if my experience is so much different, or if I use the distro differently than other users, that it seems so much stable for me. Often i see people recommending against "zypper dup", recommending "tumbleweed-cli" instead of "zypper dup", using "opi" for codecs install instead of 1-click install on opensuse-community, and so on, because the system "could" or "will for sure" break at some time. Why there is a need for all this fancy and new stuff and is it possible that these combinations and diversity increases possibility for issues? Given all of these, I should have had my home machines broken already a million times and burned to death. - I am using Tumbleweed - I have all these repositories enabled: [1] (yes, no priorities currently) - I have "zypper dup", "zypper inr", "zypper ve" in my daily cron job - I have enabled vendor changes in zypper conf - I have disabled multiversion.kernel in zypper conf (keeps kernel packages with their dependencies and/or DKMS clean and working) - I have disabled snapper as a whole - I have installed some VMWare software from their crappy .run packages, which means some parts are compiled from source During my over-15 years-long experience with *SUSE, i never experienced an unbootable system or a serious issue, except: - Nvidia driver issues before they were packaged for *SUSE and you had to use the .run installation ( ancient SaX2 times, before Xorg autoconfiguration ). On my gaming system i have just enabled nvidia repos and forgot about it. - Akonadi issues because of my experiments with bleeding edge mariadb in combination with my mailbox containing few million e-mails, also many years back - Btrfs issues (total system crash) when it was unstable and i had enabled snapper an ran out of space - which was resolved by reinstall and re-mounting my /home/ (i am not using snapper since then) So my question is - have the RPM dependencies gone weaker than they were "before" or something? Could that combination of all the emergency safe features, like btrfs snapshots in combination with multiversion kernel and/or packages, tumbleweed-cli, opi, etc...? Why are RPM deps not enough to keep the system solid anymore? My experience with *SUSE has always been rock-solid-stable and one of the very few things i do manually from time to time is firing up yast2 sw_single, removing unmaintained packages and checking change-logs of some packages i am interested/care of. Take this as a congrats and thanks for all the maintainers, developers and everyone taking care. And most importantly, the OBS, which does pretty neat job with automatic package dependencies and all that stuff. One more time - thank you OBS and all the people developing and working on it! :) And while i am doing this braindump, please revive SUSE Studio :P :) And last, but not least - thanks Packman people :) [1]: https://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/38599835 Regards, Gryffus

1 0

Alternatives to kwin?
by Peter Suetterlin 01 Jun '22

01 Jun '22

Hi list, are there any real alternatives to kwin when using plasma/KDE? That piece of ***** really drives me away from plasma more and more. It has always been a PITA that, e.g. when running some SDL1 game in ful screen, it went shuffling ALL windows in ALL desktops wildly around and not restoring positions when resolution is changed back. Now it also starts RESIZING them. Got an idea what that means on a work machine with a 5k screen and 6 virtual desktops? Has anyone used openbox with KDE? Is it usable?

4 4