May 2022 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

With Beta do we 'zypper up' or 'zypper dup' to update packages? (growing list of NOT installed)
by David C. Rankin 18 May '22

18 May '22

All, I don't know why, but I seem to recall that with a Beta release, we should 'zypper dup' to update packages instead of 'zypper up'. I've been doing 'zypper up' out of habit and I have a growing list of The following 22 package updates will NOT be installed: Is this due to using 'up' instead of 'dup' on a Beta or is this just newer versions blocked due to "vendor change" not being automatically allowed? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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15.4 Beta - Update or patch keepassxc for bug 7813 (natural sort)
by David C. Rankin 18 May '22

18 May '22

Devs, keepassxc is currently ver 2.6.6. This is an older keepassxc that doesn't provide a natural sort of the entries: https://github.com/keepassxreboot/keepassxc/issues/7813 In the current version for 15.4, entries sort: A B ... Y Z a b ... y z For large collections of entries, this makes it impossible to find the key you are looking for unless you can remember whether you started the Title with an uppercase or lowercase letter. This is fixed in current version 2.7.1 and you get a natural case-insensitive sort for the entries. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[oS-en] XFCE problem: when there is no internet, xfce fails to restore the session
by Carlos E. R. 17 May '22

17 May '22

XFCE problem: when there is no internet, xfce fails to restore the session On boot, I have to login, make sure the network manager connection activates (the connection is slow, via tethering), and when it connects, i have to kill the X session with ctrl-alt-backspace twice, so that session is not saved. When it restarts, then it recovers the per-pre-session, the correct one. I have been experiencing this on two computers, but only now identified to origin. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3)

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Unnecessary .spec entry: Obsoletes: keepassx < 2.0.4 (prevents install of non-conflicting package)
by David C. Rankin 17 May '22

17 May '22

Devs, I just spent 30 minutes rebuilding keepassxc to remove the unneeded line in the .spec of Obsoletes: keepassx < 2.0.4 keepassxc does not conflict with keepassx in any way. All the Obsoletes does is prevent someone from building and installing both at the same time. Linux is about choice, and if I choose to install both so I can edit my older keepassx files before import into keepassxc -- then I should be able to do so. The changelog states this was done because keepassx depends on Qt4 and at some point that dependency will no longer be available. I get that. But while it is -- don't put Obsoletes in the keepassxc file, because the Qt4 files are still available. In fact there are Qt6 packages that specifically provide the Qt6 & Qt4 dependencies because Qt4 isn't completely gone yet. Even when it isn't packages by openSUSE any longer, if I'm creative enough to provide the dependency on my own, the keepassxc package shouldn't be so arrogant as to tell me it's either one or the other, but I can't have both installed. That's just categorically false. I'd expect something like this on Windows, but not Linux. I would certainly vote to remove this line from the .spec before the actual 15.4 release. (not to mention the keepassxc package is a full 68X larger than keepassx and takes about that many times longer to build), e.g. -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 773248 May 17 00:33 keepassx-0.4.3-9.1.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 51992192 May 17 01:19 keepassxc-2.6.6-bp154.2.59.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 998640 May 17 01:19 keepassxc-lang-2.6.6-bp154.2.59.noarch.rpm Poor laptop thought it was building PHP again...... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: X virtual frame buffer
by Roger Oberholtzer 17 May '22

17 May '22

Auto-login makes no difference here. I wish I had access to the system now, but it is not currently available. The X log ends saying that as no display was found, X will not be started. I need to find a way to not have the X server do that. Those were the three options I was considering. On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 5:43 PM Bill Swisher <bill(a)luddites.org> wrote: > > On 5/16/22 04:10, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > Hmmmm...what I do is let the remote computer boot with my profile doing an > auto-login, available in yast/user/advanced. I have 'alias ssh="ssh -X"', I > haven't found many things that won't work from a xterm. I just need to know how > to get to them, I spend a lot of my time in a xterm. They run really slow over > the internet, slowly over the WiFi and better over a 1Gbs switch, but they do > seem to work. I just tested LibreOffice, which I have 'alias > oo="/usr/bin/libreoffice"', the oo is a relic from OpenOffice. vlc useless and > complains about the audio when I screw up and try to run it at 1Gbs. Hope this > helps, if not then sorry to have taken up your time. -- Roger Oberholtzer

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TW fish filesystem bug in Dolphin.
by Ariez Vachha - openSUSE 17 May '22

17 May '22

TW fish filesystem bug in dolphin. Dolphin tries to open directories such as conf.d as a regular file when clicked on. Navigating via the address bar works fine. The underlying sshfs fused filesystem is working fine i.e. F4 open terminal in Dolphin and changing directory works fine. How to reproduce: 1. Open fish://server.com/some-dir/ 2. Open directory with .d extension by clicking Expected result; directory opens in dolphin Observed result; dolphin tries to open the directory as a regular file. Regards, Ariez ajv(a)opensuse.org

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Leap 15.4 Beta - Shave 30 seconds off boot time (WAIT_FOR_INTERFACES="1")
by David C. Rankin 16 May '22

16 May '22

All, My 15.0 would boot from off to full desktop in 12 seconds (kdm3/kde3). I installed 15.4 Beta and boot times were a little over 43 seconds. I wanted 15.4 to boot like 15.0. Going back to my notes, checked the same /etc/sysconfig/network/config setting and reduced the timeout from 30 to 1 and presto 15.4 beta boots from off to full desktop (kdm3/kde3) in 13 seconds! (I'll find that extra second yet) The /etc/sysconfig/network/config setting at issue is: ## Type: integer ## Default: 30 # # Some interfaces need some time to come up or come asynchronously via hotplug. # WAIT_FOR_INTERFACES is a global wait for all mandatory interfaces in # seconds. If empty no wait occurs. # #WAIT_FOR_INTERFACES="30" WAIT_FOR_INTERFACES="1" I'm not sure why there is a full 30 second default used, (one of the devs in the know will have to chime in), but I suspect it is related to dongles and non-built in hardware. For builtin hardware you ethernet and wifi hardware, you can check dmesg and locate how much time is needed to find and initialize yours. At any rate this will be done well before the OS boots to the point sysconfig is involved. It's worth tinkering with if you are a boot-time conscious user... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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15.4 Beta - solver.dupAllowVendorChange default changed to 'true'?
by David C. Rankin 16 May '22

16 May '22

Devs, Why was there a default change to 'true' for solver.dupAllowVendorChange? In all prior releases of leap I have this has always been 'false'. Now it seems we have: ## Set whether to allow changing the packages vendor upon DUP. If you ## are following a continuous distribution like Tumbleweed or Factory ## where you use 'zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change' quite frequently, ## you may indeed benefit from disabling the VendorChange. Packages from ## OBS repos will then be kept rather than being overwritten by Tumbleweeds ## version. ## ## Valid values: boolean ## Default value: true ## solver.dupAllowVendorChange = false I've set this to false because I don't want vendor changes on dup (I have packman, etc.. repos and on dup when 15.4 is released, I don't want there to be various packages from different repos installed unless I explicitly tell zypper to change vendors. Has this become safer where there is no longer a risk of getting a smattering of packages from say packman and some from oss and some from factory-python that would break things? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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15.4 Beta - cancelling "zypper se" with [ctrl + c] SEGFAULTS ??
by David C. Rankin 16 May '22

16 May '22

All, This was unexpected (to me), but may be normal. Canceling "zypper se" with [ctrl + c] results in a Segmentation Fault. E.g. $ zse octabe ^C^CSegmentation fault (I meant to type octave, but had a typo so I canceled the search) Shouldn't the interrupt handler in zypper handle this in a more graceful way? The 'zse' alias for users is: alias zse='sudo zypper se -s' (not sure whether that would make any difference, but included anyway) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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15.4 Beta - What package provides Gtk+3 File Chooser for Firefox?
by David C. Rankin 15 May '22

15 May '22

All, Strange deal, Firefox on 15.4 Beta 91.9 (whatever comes with it) can not download ("save link") files. It doesn't matter if it is set to download all to "~/Downloads" or set to "Always ask" for a download location. Clicking the "save as" link in the context menu doesn't work. So much so, I just have to copy the link and use wget. (which gets old quick with at large number of files). Since the only desktops I loaded were icewm (with the install) and then KDE3 and fluxbox, my guess is there is an unidentified dependency that provides the dialog and makes the download work. (that's a guess) Anybody have any insight into what package is needed or why this may be happening? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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