March 2017 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] file conflict error message from zypper
by Richmond 03 Mar '17

03 Mar '17

I am puzzled by this error message because 1) I would not expect a development library to have anything which conflicted with a run time library. (They are from the same vendor). Although I am no expert in such matters. 2) My only options were yes or no, and accepting "no" meant nothing at all was installed. Maybe it should be possible to skip? as there were some 500 packages to update. This is opensuse tumbleweed running on a 32 bit laptop. The offending library is from/used by LLVM. File /usr/lib/libomp.so from install of libomp3_9-devel-3.9.1-6.2.i586 (Main Repository (OSS)) conflicts with file from package libomp-3.8.1-1.1.i586 (@System) File conflicts happen when two packages attempt to install files with the same name but diff\ erent contents. If you continue, conflicting files will be replaced losing the previous cont\ ent. Continue? [yes/no] (no): Problem occured during or after installation or removal of packages: Installation aborted by user -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] TW: LibreOffice Calc : Negative Numbers in Red not working
by ellanios82 03 Mar '17

03 Mar '17

Hello List , TW - LO Calc refuses to display Negative Numbers in Red : Formatting Cell to display Negative Numbers in Red results in Black , not Red any ideas ? thanks .... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] OpenBoard 1.3.4 now available as package
by Thorsten Bro 03 Mar '17

03 Mar '17

Hi Josep, it took a while, but due to me using the OpenBoard-Software in my HackWeek-Project, i pushed this topic a bit and got help from our packaging and Qt experts - so thanks to adamm, darix and danimo - we have now a well working OpenBoard package available in the Education project. My hackweek project: https://hackweek.suse.com/projects/geekoscreen-building-an-open-source-base… Try it out: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=Education&package=OpenBoard https://software.opensuse.org/package/OpenBoard Cheers, Thorsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] the linux users guide to dismissing new technology
by nicholas 02 Mar '17

02 Mar '17

any change to technology is a threat to your existing knowledge and skills and should be rejected immediately. the more convoluted the existing technology is the better, it gives you and edge over others, which you need to defend (eg init). here is an incomplete list of potential stratergies: [1] divine truth: a useful prescript e.g. "a tool should do 1 thing and do it well" is a divine truth. it is not subject time, context, evidence, data or reasoning. [like the 10 commandments] (you can use divine truth to immediatly dismiss systemd irespective of technical arguments). [2] if the new technology doesnt work in the same way as the old, it is flawed. since the new tech requires new knowledge, it is obviously more complex QED. [be carefull not to apply this to windows vs linux] [3] dismiss any new features as pointless and unneeded. [4] faults: any shortcoming of new tech (be truth or hype) should be vocalised extensively. try to frame an argument such that the old tech has no problems. [5] avoid data, evidence, reasoning and context: rely on rumours, anecdotes, fud, comments on reddit, appeals to emotion and truthiness. [6] give the new tech whipping boy status: any problem for which a diagnosis does not exist should be attributed to the new tech. [7] condemn the new tech based on partial knowledge you havnt verified, and use this to form an apparently rational conclusion (e.g. systemd timer limitations) lets take an example: OP: "i had a problem, I dont know what it was, I used the wrong tools to diagnose it, ignored any recommendations on how to fix it, did something i didnt understand, and it still didnt work. whats more the same thing happened on all 5 systems which is statistically impossible if considered as independent (non correlated) failures" you now have all the hard evidence you need, and can let rip: [a] "the same thing happened to me - this is proof the system is rubbish" [b] "how could you ship a system that allows such a thing to occur" [c] "there is some fud on the internet from 5 years ago showing how bad the system is, whats wrong with you people" [d] "any tech that requires understanding is no good for home users" [ignoring the fact that the linux ecosystem itself fails under the premisses of the argument] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] about: fcitx
by stakanov 02 Mar '17

02 Mar '17

I read today in openfate that for SP3 fcitx is deprecated, the author of the mail in question did state that, from his point of view it is not necessary to patch it any more. I did not understand well the issue. Is fcitx still in development or is it deprecated only for the plasma4 version maybe? If it is deprecated tout court, is it still safe to use it? What substitutes in this eventually fcitx. Are we back to ibus? I am quite strongly using fcitx for mandarine and am running currently 42.2. A part of a problem with the kde layout chooser, it words. That said, I understood the problem was again qt webkit (as the version 5 was not ready and fcitx relies on it. Thank you for making me understand. The feature in FATE is: Feature #322611 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] xorg-x11-server in TW
by Olaf Hering 02 Mar '17

02 Mar '17

Am Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:22:18 -0500 schrieb Anton Aylward <opensuse(a)antonaylward.com>: > Its asking me to downgrade over 500 packages right now. This would be an interesting case study for a Friday discussion... Olaf

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[opensuse] A hopefully stupid hardware question - power led?
by Greg Freemyer 02 Mar '17

02 Mar '17

All, I've got a PC that has power-on LED around the power button. I swear it used to be on when the PC was on and off when it was off. Now it seems the LED is almost always off (and maybe it is always off). Most of the time I don't care, but if I'm shutting down for some reason, I can't always tell when power down is done. Is there a bios setting to control that on some MBs? I just realized it could be the connector came loose. I don't recall when I last saw the light on. It's not something I look at most of the time, even though I sit 3 feet from it. fyi: AsRock X99 Extreme4 is my MB. Thanks Greg -- Greg Freemyer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Fwd: [opensuse] Very basic dd question
by Greg Freemyer 02 Mar '17

02 Mar '17

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Stevens <fred-n-sandy(a)myrhinomail.com> wrote: > > > > On 03/01/2017 01:58 PM, Anthony Youngman wrote: >> >> >> Has he got VirtualBox or similar? Can you copy the images to a laptop >> hard-drive? Can you mount the images in VirtualBox? >> >> Actually, it's just struck me - linux has no trouble loopback-mounting a >> disk image - can you mount those images in linux and just copy the files >> out of it? If all you want to do is recover the disk contents, with >> those drives you could almost certainly just mount them in linux, burn >> the contents to a CD, and let him recover the stuff off that! >> >> Cheers, >> Wol >> > > Wol (and others), it isn't a matter of just wanting to have the files. That data we have, more or less. No, it is a bit of a conundrum, to wit: > (please follow without condemnation) > - friend has some old IBM laptops from Win 3.11 and Win 95 era > - 2 of these are used by him for very specific purpose that seems not to work with any other hardware/software combination > - This project is not to recover data or to fix drives, it is to take blank drives and essentially make them copies of those that boot and run so his other hardware will work just like the 2 working laptops > - Due to the driver requirements of those antique OS, (and lack thereof in his junkbox) basically only a cloned drive will boot and run > - I, of course, said Oh, yeah, I can do that, then the fun started. > - Said friend lives several miles from here, so any changes done here have to wait until our paths cross. Not difficult but not quick, either. > > I might also add that the original drives are around 1GB with less than 170MB of data and the spare drives range from 176MB to 1GB AND my gparted will NOT resize a working FAT16 drive (maybe won't any other, either but don't know). > > I want to thank everyone who has chimed in with suggestions. Some have been spot on and have worked great. I will try just copying the first 170MB or so of the image and we shall see how that works. I'll report back whenever I find out. > > =================== > If you're having fun, go for it. If you want to just get the job done, believe it or not, you can still buy new IDE drives. Here's a IDE SSD! https://www.amazon.com/Zheino-Solid-State-Drive-Laptop/dp/B00QWZQ43Y/ref=pd… $43 Or a mSata adapter for a IDE slot: https://www.amazon.com/Andiny-MSATA-44PIN-Converter-Adapter/dp/B01N5D2N0W/r… $8, but you have to buy a mSata card ($50 for a cheap one I think) Or you can just get an old fashened rotating drive: https://www.amazon.com/Generic-40GB-Inch-Laptop-Drive/dp/B00BD30MZG/ref=sr_… $19, free shipping if you buy 2. And I assume you can get used IDE drives on eBay. That $19 drive should actually work, even with a very old laptop. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Tumbleweed snapshot 20170227: two serious problems I encountered
by Olaf Hering 01 Mar '17

01 Mar '17

Am Wed, 1 Mar 2017 16:28:57 -0500 schrieb Anton Aylward <opensuse(a)antonaylward.com>: > I'm spending too much time dealing with these problems! Thats why I said: download the installer linux+initrd (curl works?), create custom.cfg and fix the system using "upgrade=1". Olaf

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Tumbleweed snapshot 20170227: two serious problems I encountered
by Olaf Hering 01 Mar '17

01 Mar '17

Am Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:56:20 -0500 schrieb Anton Aylward <opensuse(a)antonaylward.com>: > # zypper up Tumbleweed installations are maintained with plain 'zypper dup', note the missing 'd'. There is a conversation about this every other week. > Of course without a working zypper I'm not sure what I can do about > any of this. Boot the Tumblweed installer with the 'upgrade=1' kernel cmdline option. At some point it asks for the repositories to be used. Adjust them manually, there is a checkbox for it. In the list enable the existing repositories as needed, perhaps also adjust the priorities for certain repos in case desired packages are provided by more than one repository. There is a knob to upgrade either installed packages or do the upgrade based on patterns. Pay attention to the bootloader settings in case a non-standard setup has to be used. Good luck. Olaf

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