March 2017 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] Followup - ViBox or KVM for Win Guest
by David C. Rankin 23 Mar '17

23 Mar '17

All, As a follow-up to the thread [opensuse] KVM v. Vbox (howto fix kvm artifact and provide seamless mouse integration), I thought I would drop a note on the implementation I settled on and why. After testing both Linux and Windows guests on KVM and Virtualbox, I settled on virtualbox, for no other reason than convenience. KVM is fantastic, but it currently lacks the same ease of use (even with virt-manager/virt-viewer) that vbox does out of the box. (Note: virtualbox actually uses KVM paravirtualization by default when you have hardware virtualization available, so you are not losing anything in making either choice). The graphics configuration, options for 2D/3D video acceleration (although the 3D is experimental -- it does work to provide Aeroglass decor on Win7 guests), the seamless mouse integration (capture/release) all weigh in favor of the vbox decision. The real kicker is the ease of network configuration under vbox for most normal network needs. Simple to switch between NAT/Bridged setup without having to worry about startup scripts for TAP networking or manually bridging or configuring networking with VDE2. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking KVM. It is a fantastic option, supports all versions of windows guests, and I continue to use it, but for daily driving, and ease of maintenance (rpm updates provided by Oracle or those from openSuSE, make version updates a snap). As infrequently as I need windows[1], vbox provides brainless guest access to just get done what I need done. As for the choice between openSuSE rpms or those from virtualbox.org, I prefer the virtualbox.org rpms. Traditionally if you wanted USB functionality you needed the virtualbox.org rpms and the ext-oracle extension pack, but I'm not positive that is still the case. I've never had problems with the virtualbox.org rpms and kernel updates/kernel module rebuilds are now handled by dkms, so there isn't even a need for rcvbox setup anymore. If you want to experiment and configure a guest and you want to try KVM, then just load libvirtd and create a host and you are off to the races. There are many areas where KVM excels in providing scriptable flexibility in the way guests are started and configured. If you want the shortest path to getting a guest up and running with the shallowest learning curve, it's hard to be vbox. Either choice is a solid virtualization solution, so take your pick, but for ease of general use, I lean toward vbox. Footnote 1: accounting/quickbooks and appellate briefing in word are the only need I have for windows. There is no capability to generate Table of Authorities for cases, statutes and rules and no auto citation identification in Open/LibreOffice writer (and I prefer word 2003 that allows manual field manipulation for that). I rarely do appeals. but when I'm in a crunch I don't want to have to dork with a guest config, I just want to get the work done.. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] 42,2 installed -> black display
by Peter Joh. Brunner 22 Mar '17

22 Mar '17

when in jan 2017 support for 13.2 ceased, i downloaded 42.2 and installed it: on my laptop: ok, with some minor difficulties. on my wifes PC: ok, with some minor difficulties. on my PC: installed OK, BUT: at first reboot after install and ever since ONLY a black display. no reaction to any input device, not even Ctrl+Alt+Del, also no reaction to hardware button on CDROM to eject medium but light indicating PC-On is lit. restarted PC by restart button, booted old 13.2 mounted 42.2-partition to /leap42.2: /leap42.2/var/log/boot.log contains no errors and no warnings. in former times there was a file /var/log/messages with the messages of the running system. this file doesn't exist any more and therefore yast->Miscellaneous->SystemLog can't report nothing. my PC: is of 2005 MSI Mainboard K8M Neo-V, ATX, Sockel 754 (Athlon 64) FSB 800, 2 x DDR (7032-010R) CPU AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (2000MHz), tray, FSB400, 512kB Cache "Newcastle" OEM DDR-RAM 1,5 GB, 400 MHz, PC-3200, CL3 Samsung SP0812N Festplatte, 80GB, 7200rpm, 8MB Cache, IDE Sapphire Grafikkarte Atlantis Radeon 9250, 128MB DDR, DVI, TV-out, AGP, bulk/lite rtl (11046-65-20) On Board my laptop: 2016, HP PRO-Book 455 G2 with 4 x AMD A8-7100 R5, my wifes PC: 2012? 2x AMD A4-5300 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] can't seem to be able to send emails to this list
by George from the tribe 22 Mar '17

22 Mar '17

my apologies for this... I sent an email to the opensuse-test list, and that email went through just fine. For some reason, it seems I am not able to send emails to this regular opensuse list. I am receiving emails just fine. Could my email have been blocked for some reason? It looks like this started last night. If this email goes through, then the problem is sending an email to the thread I started a few days ago. I have had to send the same reply 4 times now, and it hasn't come back to me on the list. Could that thread somehow have been officially closed? I am using thunderbird 45.8 on leap 42.2 with plasma5. Anyone else having a similar experience? -- George Box: 42.2 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | 32GB Laptop #1: 42.2 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | Core i7-4710HQ | 64 | 16GB Laptop #2: 42.2 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | Core i5 | 64 | 8GB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] ping failure to find sitenames; inetutils being maintained?
by L A Walsh 22 Mar '17

22 Mar '17

I had my curiosity piqued when someone said they had problems retrieving a webpage from site 'президент.рф'. I tried wget & curl but they both recoded it into punycode. So tried ping... ping couldn't find the site at all: > ping -v "президент.рф" ping: unknown host президент.рф So I tried 'dig': > dig "президент.рф" ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-rpz2+rl.14038.05-P1 <<>> президент.рф ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 61303 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1 (NXDOMAIN = no such domain), But if I type the address into my browser, it goes to the russian site (kremlin.ru). I poked around a bit and found suse ping comes from the old 'iputils' package (superceded by iputils2, though iputils2 doesn't have ping). Looked a bit more and found it in the gnu inetutils package. Built it w/default config options and it resolved "right out of the box": Ishtar:tools/inetutils/inetutils-1.9.4/ping> ./ping "президент.рф" PING президент.рф (95.173.136.80): 56 data bytes. ^C--- президент.рф ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss Are inetutils being maintained anymore (looks like my version is dated 2012-12-21? -l -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] support for openSUSE on ARM ?
by Per Jessen 22 Mar '17

22 Mar '17

I'm playing with openSUSE TW on an ARM board - I was just wondering what our "official" position is - if I see bugs or problem, do I report them just as I would on x86 hardware? Specifically, I cannot start ntpd via systemd. It will just keep terminating and restarting in an endless loop. If I start it manually, it's fine. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (6.0°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] bitcoin
by George from the tribe 21 Mar '17

21 Mar '17

Can anyone point me to a bitcoin forum, where people discuss the technical issues of how to handle bitcoin (similar to how we do this on this mailing list or the opensuse forums)? Also, if you are an active user of bitcoin, I would be interested to know your experience, lessons learned, difficulties of setting things up on the technical side, etc. -- George Box: 42.2 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | 32GB Laptop #1: 42.2 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | Core i7-4710HQ | 64 | 16GB Laptop #2: 42.2 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | Core i5 | 64 | 8GB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Dumb question about grep
by Marc Chamberlin 20 Mar '17

20 Mar '17

Ok I am puzzled, why does grep fail when I use it in some directories and works fine in others. I don't think this can be a permissions issue because I get the same behavior when I do a - su root and then run this grep command... Here is an example of a failure using a simple grep command - darkstar:/usr/lib/systemd/system # grep run * grep: invalid option -- '.' Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... Try 'grep --help' for more information. If I go to my home directory /home/marc it works fine... This is probably just me being brain dead late at night, but got me beat! Marc... -- "The Truth is out there" - Spooky -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Install Budgie from Minimal Install
by Bryon Adams 20 Mar '17

20 Mar '17

Hello, I haven't installed a GUI from a minimal install in a while and for the life of me I can't remember what step(s) I'm missing here. Maybe it's better just to install gnome and grab budgie as well afterwards. Xinit, GDM, and dudgie-desktop are all installed, but when I run budgie-desktop it cannot connect to the init server. I can run startx as root and get a gnome shell. I get a permission denied without root, "xf860OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 3 (permission denied)" Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks, Bryon -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Upgrade inspiration
by Vojtěch Zeisek 20 Mar '17

20 Mar '17

This is slightly off-topic, but we, users of Drupal, know how painful can be upgrade between major versions (6/7, 7/8). Recently, there was an interesting proposal by Drupal founder about new upgrade way to make it easier for users as well as 3rd party module developers. Of course, hard to compare Drupal and openSUSE, but still, it is an interesting concept to think about little bit. https://www.buytaert.net/making-drupal-upgrades-easy-forever -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/ https://trapa.cz/

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[opensuse] X (?) hangs after upgrade to 42.2
by Mikhail Ramendik 20 Mar '17

20 Mar '17

Hello, After upgrading to Leap 42.2 I have experienced a weird hang twice already. It never happened over a few months of running Leap 42.1. Suddenly, things on the graphical screen stop responding. The mouse cursor moves but nothing can be clicked. In both cases so far, Google Chrome was the visible application and was maximized; neither Chrome nor the task bar would respond to any clicks, and there was no response to keyboard actions on the graphical screen. I can still press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to a text console. I used the text console, as root, to do "killall -9 chrome". But even with "chrome" gone from the output of "top", nothing changed on the graphics screen when I changed back to it with Ctrl-Alt-F7. There was nothing in /var/log/Xorg.log.0 when I looked at it. The boot sequence and then, after a long time, "AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch" - obviously a reaction to pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 when the hang was already in progress. I could not find any way out except "shutdown -r now" on the root terminal screen. After the second hang, when the system booted up first and I logged on (KDE 5 Plasma as usual), there was apparently no WM. WIndows appeared without a header, minimize/maximize/close buttons, etc. After another reboot the windows are normal. This might or might not be the same issue - describing it in case it shows a clue. Is there anything I can do to troubleshoot further, either now or if the hang strikes again? -- Yours, Mikhail Ramendik Unless explicitly stated, all opinions in my mail are my own and do not reflect the views of any organization -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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