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Re: [opensuse] Processes quitting
by Fred n Sandy 05 Jan '15

05 Jan '15

On Sunday 04 January 2015, Aaron Digulla wrote: > > Ok, some rough outline of the remote help process: You > supply us with reliable information about your system, > program versions, possibly links to where you got > unusual tools (like the noip2 executable) and we rise > our voices when we spot something. > > Remote help isn't telepathy. If you want us to help you, > you need to tell us everything you know and everything > which might be related. Which isn't easy - usually, when > someone reaches out for help, they are frustrated. Not > an idea state of mind to think about everything that > some unknown person on the other side of the globe might > need to know to help you. > > With that out of the way, to keep a process alive, there > are several ways which are better than cron. If you have > a Linux system with the old init system > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Init) you should look at > daemonize (http://linux.die.net/man/1/daemonize) > > If you have a more modern startup system like systemd > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd) then they have > config files where you can say "start this when this > happend and restart it when it exist and make sure it > stays alive but only restart it 10 times if it > terminates after 10 seconds". > > If you know old System V init scripts, this explains how > to convert the information for systemd: > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.htm > l > > Regards, > Aaron: Roger on the frustration. Also there is the noise coming from the forum about workarounds when my original gripe was that my server occasionally closes 3 running processes for no known reason. I was wondering what might cause that. As I said earlier, there are several "bandaids" I can apply to the problem, most of which have been pointed out by various parties here. Yours is probably the best so far. Thanks for that. My server? Opensuse 12.3. The noip2 executable came from noip.com. The 30 minute phone home default is quite ok for my installation. As I had also noted, logging provided no clues to the why of the process terminations. So, I am left with the obvious solution of putting a bandaid on the problem and then to move on to something more important, like taking the wife to dinner and a movie. Thanks, all, for your input. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Major install problems with 13.2
by Joseph Comfort 05 Jan '15

05 Jan '15

I am trying to install os 13.2 on my HP 6305 desktop. I have problems which continue to get worse. The computer came with Win-7 on disk /dev/sda (in 4 patitions). I added a second disk (sdb) and installed os 13.1. The partitions were formatted with ext4, and 'boot' was part of the root (/). The 6305 bios has Legacy Support enabled and Secure Mode disabled. Installation of 13.1 was not a problem, and all ran fine. Problem 1: Booting the downloaded os 13.2 DVD, there are no entries for either 'Boot installed system' or for 'memtest.' Actually, this is also true for the downloaded os 13.1 disk (used to install that system). But the entries show up on my laptop with Win-7 and os 13.1 (all on a single disk, and no UEFI in bios), as well as on an older 2-disk desktop with Win-XP and os 12.3. I pushed ahead with the 13.2 install. I wanted to keep the same disk structure, and simply reformat '/' and '/usr', keeping '/usr/local' and '/home'. Problem 2: On the summary page, the boot location was listed as /boot/grub2-efi, along with secure boot. That is not how the bios is set up. I clicked on 'Booting' and made necessary changes. Because my old desktop showed that the boot record was in MBR, I used that again. The installation went smoothly, but Problems 3: On the initial reboot, there was still no 'Boot from installed system' menu listeing. (The installation process would start over until I killed it.) I can not get a booting menu. I could get in to Linux via SuperGrub2. Most of the system looks fine. Problem 4: Examining the bootloader properties, there are 3 SuSE entries but no Win-7 entry. As a result of this process (and/or prrevious attempts), Win-7 is now hosed -- the operating system is not there, although most of the files are still fine. Questions: 1) What is the story here? 2) Why does the SuSE installer behave as though UEFI and Secure Boot are enabled, even though they are off in the bios? 3) Must I disable Legacy Support and turn on (or not) Secure Boot? 4) Is a separate linux /boot partition now required, even though UEFI and Secure Boot are not required by the standards? 5) Is there a way to set my linux partitions as I had before? 6) What is the correct way to get a menu with both SuSE and Win-7? Thank you, Joe Comfort -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] cli find cmd syntax
by Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) 05 Jan '15

05 Jan '15

Hi, I am endeavouring to print a list of my Maildir folders to a file so that I can use that same list when I construct a Procmailrc file. Initially I ran ~> find $HOME/Maildir -type d -print | sort > /home/hylton/maillistdir **sample snip*** /home/hylton/Maildir/.INBOX.A-F.Bookstores.Kalahari /home/hylton/Maildir/.INBOX.A-F.Bookstores.Kalahari/courierimapkeywords /home/hylton/Maildir/.INBOX.A-F.Bookstores.Kalahari/cur /home/hylton/Maildir/.INBOX.A-F.Bookstores.Kalahari/new /home/hylton/Maildir/.INBOX.A-F.Bookstores.Kalahari/tmp ******** I noticed that there were many sub-folders I did not need. Given this list ended up being 273pg, after a short stint at editing it I decided there had to be a way to exclude certain folders. What I need is the namesand paths of the folders ie /home/hylton/Maildir/.INBOX.A-F.Bookstores.Kalahari , not the /cur, /tmp, /new or even the /courierimapkeywords sub-folders. So far I have: ~> find $HOME/Maildir -type d $ ! -name tmp $ -o $ ! -name cur $ -o $ ! -name new $ -o $ ! -name courierimapkeywords $ | -print | sort > /home/hylton/maillistdir The above command returns a 'Command not found' in my destination file of maillistdir. I have RTFM'd, Googled and still cannot find an example of what I want to do. I even visited the sites Aaron Digulla gave me on an earlier pointing to the complexities of find. Any more help appreciated Tnx Hylton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Processes quitting
by Fred n Sandy 04 Jan '15

04 Jan '15

I have a perplexing problem with my lampserver. My location has a dynamic IP, so I use a DDNS service which, in this case, requires multiple instances (-M option) of the DDNS client. I give the command, the processes start and all is right with the world until some unknown time later when the dirty $#@! quits. Uptime shows this: lampserver:/home/fred # uptime 09:25am up 53 days 7:45, lampserver:/home/fred # ps -ef |grep noip nobody 14358 1 0 Jan03 ? 00:00:00 /usr/local/bin/noip2 -M -c /usr/local/etc/<first>.conf nobody 14360 1 0 Jan03 ? 00:00:00 /usr/local/bin/noip2 -M -c /usr/local/etc/<second>.conf nobody 14362 1 0 Jan03 ? 00:00:00 /usr/local/bin/noip2 -M -c /usr/local/etc/<third>.conf So, the system has been up for almost 2 months and I have had to restart the client three times. OK, I know several ways to work around the problem, to bandaid it, but I would really like to discover what is causing it in the first place. Any pointers would be welcome. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Processes quitting
by Fred n Sandy 04 Jan '15

04 Jan '15

On Sunday 04 January 2015, Aaron Digulla wrote: > Where did you get "noip2"? Is that from your DDNS > provider? If so, which one do you use? Is there a man > page? Does it support options for logging? If so, did > you set them to "log everything" and looked in the log > file? > > Note that most DDNS clients simply connect to a server > telling them the name of the connection. So basically, > if your local name is "a.b.c", then they connect to the > DDNS server and send them the string "a.b.c". The TCP/IP > protocol will then tell the server what the IP address > of the client is and that's it. > > A problem here is when the client doesn't get notified > properly when the local IP address changes - in that > case, your IP address would change but the client > wouldn't notify the DDNS server right away. > > Hence if you can't get logging to work properly, you just > have to restart the client every N days or hours. > > Regards, > As I read it, the client phones home every 30 minutes and the server gets the IP info from that, so the client is independent of any address changes. It is really a dumb process... brute force, if you will, but it works. Usually. Until it mysteriously quits. Yes, I could write a script to restart the job and cron it but that is a bandaid. If there is some fundamental f.u. going on I'd like to discover it. Logging has been no help. Oh, and why "noip2"? Because that is the name of the client. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] system disk question
by Igor Kresnik 04 Jan '15

04 Jan '15

Hello Im downloading system disc from www.sysresccd.org/ and burn it on Cd. In past version im in comand line write ranish and im get tool for work with parttion. Now I like know how I can get smilary tool for work with partition --- Ta e-pošta je bila pregledana z Avast protivirusnim programom. http://www.avast.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] grub2 installation onto mdraid raid device
by Istvan Gabor 04 Jan '15

04 Jan '15

Hello: Here is what I would like to do: I have a system with two linux OSs, both are installed on mdraid raid1. I would like to install grub2 on the root partitions/devices of the given OSs, and a grub2 on MBR. The MBR grub2 would only chainload the other grub2 on the root partition. Is this possible, how? I tried to install grub2 on /dev/md2 using grub-install /dev/md2 and grub-setup /dev/md2 but apparently it hasn't succeeded, I can not chainload it. I would not like to have the real loader on MBR. Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Cannot shutdown PC with WOL activated
by Bogdan Cristea 03 Jan '15

03 Jan '15

Hi I am running openSUSE 13.2 on an Intel NUC with WOL activated. The shutdown command only reboots the PC, I need to physically press the power off button in order to get the desired behaviour. Same happens if I use ’shutdown -h now’ from command line. WOL works as expected. Is there a way to get normal shutdown behaviour without deactivating WOL ? thanks Bogdan-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] raid on mixed ssd+hdd
by jdd 03 Jan '15

03 Jan '15

Hello, I wonder if it could be a good idea to make a raid with a ssd and an hdd together (mirror). will the hdd kill the ssd speed advantage or do the ssd boost the hole raid? thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Cannot shutdown PC with WOL activated
by jdd 03 Jan '15

03 Jan '15

well... just tested and here "shutdown now" worked perfectly. Not even -P needed... jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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