March 2013 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade to 12.3 caused akonadi problems/crash in 11.4
by Marc Chamberlin 20 Mar '13

20 Mar '13

On 3/18/2013 11:01 AM, Jan Ritzerfeld wrote: > Am Sonntag, 17. März 2013, 22:12:50 schrieb Marc Chamberlin: >> I have been running an openSuSE 11.4 system with a number of server >> applications such as Tomcat, James, Bacula etc., and decided it was time >> I upgrade it to 12.3. I have always followed a model of keeping /home in >> it's own partition and installing each new version of openSuSE into it's >> own partition. > I am doing the same. I updated to 12.3 this weekend. > >> In this way, my thinking was that I could keep running >> the older version of openSuSE until I get all the servers and >> configuration files (found in /etc /srv and elsewhere) upgraded and >> running under the newer version of openSuSE. That model has always >> worked in the past and I thought openSuSE developers would continue to >> adhere to that model as well... >> [...] > I am not a "openSUSE developer" but I always clearly stated, when being > asked or when I advised a KDE update, that you should not do that. You > should backup your old /home. You should never go back after KDE has updated > and migrated(!) its configuration and databases. If it worked for you in the > past, it was pure luck. > > Sorry > Jan Thanks Jan for replying. I guess that makes it even harder to do upgrades of openSuSE. I wish the openSuSE developers/designers, along with the Linux community in general, would give some more thought and directions on how we users are suppose to be able to migrate to newer releases of an OS while at the same time being able to regress back to previous releases when we have to. Having to maintain separate /home directories-partitions for each release would be a major PITA because of the divergences that will happen, and keeping data synchronized between them (can you say mail databases for example?) while running under different versions of openSuSE. Some of us poor users don't have the luxury of setting up separate servers and client computers when migrating from one OS to the next, and must do it in place. And getting a new system up and running takes time and we cannot afford to have our computers down during production/work hours, so the migration process can take a long time to complete. I know, I been through this process quite a few times now. I have a few tricks in place that help, for example I yank a lot of stuff out of /etc for different server configurations files and link them back in to versioned directories (in a separate partition which then retains configuration files for running the servers under different versions of openSuSE as well as different versions of the servers themselves.) Guess I will have to start doing something similar for the /home directories and figure out what stuff KDE/openSuSE is likely to touch and yank that stuff out to a separate partition with versioned directories as well. Either way it is a PITA and I wish there was a well defined (and adhered to) model for laying out partitions and directories so we can easily support regressing back when it is necessary to do so. Marc... -- "The Truth is out there" - Spooky -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] WARNING: smartmon-tools 6.1 locks Areca-SAS driven system
by Hans-Peter Jansen 19 Mar '13

19 Mar '13

Dear Stanislav, dear smartmontools developers, I've upgraded one of my servers to smartmontools 6.1 today, that happens to drive a Areca SAS controller, specifically: <5>[ 7.206669] Areca RAID Controller6: F/W V1.46 2009-01-06 & Model ARC-1680 <6>[ 7.270516] scsi6 : Areca SAS Host Adapter RAID Controller( RAID6 capable) <6>[ 7.270516] Driver Version 1.20.00.15 2010/08/05 Thing is, the system freezes immediately after running (updating) smartd. rpm stopped at 89%, and the system was *locked*. While I can switch consoles, even Sys-Req S and U doesn't finish anymore, while B worked. :-( Reverting to version 6.0 resolved it for me. I'm using the simplest of all cases of /etc/smartd.conf, since that worked reasonably well: DEVICESCAN -d removable -m root While userspace is rather old (openSUSE 11.1/i586), it's controlled by a reasonably current kernel: <5>[ 0.000000] Linux version 3.8.3-3-pae (geeko@buildhost) (gcc version 4.3.2 [gcc-4_3-branch revision 141291] (SUSE Linux) ) #1 SMP Fri Mar 15 08:16:33 UTC 2013 (1ca6928) All packages are built on OBS, smartmontools here: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=smartmontools&project=home%… I would seriously consider reverting the 6.0 -> 6.1 transition in the openSUSE repos, until this issue is fixed. Let me know, what additional information I can provide in order to resolve the issue. Thanks, Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Change password screen 12.3
by James Knott 19 Mar '13

19 Mar '13

After a period of inactivity, the screen changes to an ugly picture, with a password prompt box in the middle. Is it possible to go back to the plain black screen that I had in 12.2? I don't care about the password prompt, but I don't need it either, as I don't use a password for my home desktop. I checked in Configure Desktop, but didn't find anything that fixes this. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Android mtp on 12.3
by lynn 19 Mar '13

19 Mar '13

Hi 12.2 to 12.3 upgrade. KDE. Hi everyone I could never connect to my tablet in 12.2. It needed a udev rule or something. In 12.3, upgraded from 12.2 it just works. No udev rule nor nothing. But it's a bit hit and miss. Sometimes I can edit a file I created e.g. in /mnt/local/Downloads on the tablet, and sometimes I can't. If I drag the file to the desktop, edit it and then drag it back to the tablet, then it's OK. If I try to edit it by just clicking it from the Dolphin window, it first seems to copy the file to /var/tmp before opening it. That's the bit which seems to take the time and produce a permission error. 1. Do I need a udev rule? 2. Must I copy files from the tablet first to be able to edit them? 3. Do I have any control over which folders I can see from the tablet? (I don't have the tablet rooted, maybe I should?) Thanks L, x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Postfix transport problem
by Andre Truter 19 Mar '13

19 Mar '13

We have a local mail server set up that fetches mail from the external mail server and deliver it to local mail boxes where the office staff read it with KMail. Mail is also sent via the local mail server. so internal mail is just delivered directly and do not need to go through the external relay server. But, there is one email address that is used only externally, so it has no local mailbox. So postfix should deliver mail to it directly to the external mail server where the mailbox is. So I added an entry to /etc/postfix/transport for it like this: external.mail(a)example.com smtp:[external.mail.server] When I send mail from the mailserver itself to this address, it works as expeted; it relays the mail directly to the external server. But any email sent to this address from another box in the office, does not work.. Postfix still try to deliver it locally. Any idea why it would disregard the transport map for mail that does not originate locally? Thanks -- Andre Truter | Software Consultant | Registered Linux user #185282 Jabber: andre.truter(a)gmail.com | http://www.trusoft.co.za ~ A dinosaur is a salamander designed to Mil Spec ~ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Cinelerra for 12.3
by Malcolm 19 Mar '13

19 Mar '13

On Mon 18 Mar 2013 04:16:30 PM CDT, Basil Chupin wrote: >On 18/03/13 08:07, Cristian Rodríguez wrote: >> El 15/03/13 04:43, Basil Chupin escribi�: >> >>> The big question is: who is going to do the 'building' to work with >>> the 12.3 version? :-( . >> >> The version compiled against Tumbleweed or Factory will probably >> work though. > >Regrettably and unforunately, NO :-( . > >It complains about dependency failures, one dealing with libHalf.so.60 >not being available - which is rubbish because Tumbleweed has libHalf7 >and not v6 installed and yet Cinelerra installs; and the other is that >libpng14-4 is not installed - which it isn't....and I cannot get a >copy of it (it's on libpng.org but only as a source .txz file :-( ). >libpng14-4 *is* installed in Tumbleweed - obviously a left-over from >its 12.2 origins - which is why Cinelerra gets installed in TW. > >So, I am stuck :'( . > >Compiling Cinelerra in 12.3 fails because "libasound headers >=1.0.2 >are not present" - which is yet another piece of rubbish because >alsa-1.0.25-3.5.1 is installed in 12.2, 12.3 and TW. > >(I can no see why the author of k9copy gave up writing the program for >Linux - too many dependency crappolas at every turn :-( .) > >BC > Hi It's built for 12.3 now on packman (Thanks MrDocs) but there might be an issue with libvpx0 and libvpx1..... -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) Kernel 3.7.10-1.1-desktop up 8:59, 5 users, load average: 0.05, 0.58, 1.07 CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520(a)2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: grub2 loopback with 12.3 isos
by Jim Henderson 19 Mar '13

19 Mar '13

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:49:34 +0400, Andrey Borzenkov wrote: >> Many distributions seem to support passing the kernel a "fromiso" or >> "isofile" parameter so that when the system switches from real mode to >> the kernel, it can pick up with the ISO file (presumably mounting it >> via a loop mount). I can't find anything that indicates whether this >> parameter is enabled in openSUSE or not. >> >> > install=hd:/image.iso may work. > > https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Linuxrc Thanks, I'll give that a try. I hadn't seen that SDB article before. I'll look that over and see if I can deduce anything about booting the live images this way as well. So far doing it by hand, I haven't been successful in starting those either from an .iso file on the drive or from having copied the contents of the ISO to a directory in the filessytem. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] local NTP server?
by Felix Miata 19 Mar '13

19 Mar '13

Is there something on http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-reference/cha.… that explains how I can configure a system to be an NTP server for other systems on a LAN? If it's there, I'm not recognizing it, and it's not obvious to me looking at time config in YaST2 or elsewhere in YaST2, or in /etc/ntp.conf. Also, what exactly does running as daemon in context of NTP mean or imply? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] 12.3 crashes
by James Knott 19 Mar '13

19 Mar '13

In the 4 hours that I have had 12.3 installed on this system, it has crashed twice, requiring a power down & up to recover. Both times I was doing something with a browser. The first time it was Firefox, then Seamonkey. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Something chnasged my keymap
by Anton Aylward 19 Mar '13

19 Mar '13

I know what lives in /usr/share/kbd/keymaps and I know how to change my keymaps, but that do the mean/ OK, ignore the non English ones. But something changed. The left hand ctl key stopped working in 12.2 and doesn't work in 12.3. I wasn't given choices about this when doing the install. I did't even cunt the number of keys on this keyboard :-( If I'm in GUI mode, the left alt+Fn key doesn't hotkey to another vt, only the tight alt+Fn key doens that/. But if I'm in a Vt, only the left Alt+Fn takes me to another vt or back to the GUI, the right Alt+Fn does nothing. It didn't used to be like that with 11.4 on this hardware; when I insert my fedora drive or my magia drive to this hardware it doesn't behave like that either. "Obviously" im missing something but my knowledge and understanding of the mystique under /usr/share/kbd is primitive and exists somewhere between non-existent and following magic incantations. I'd like to restore function but don't know the magic. And yes I've been wading though google ... yet remain unenlightened. -- Plurality is never to be posited without need. --Occam -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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