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[opensuse] Re: host file question
by Joachim Schrod 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

Anton Aylward wrote: > Joachim Schrod said the following on 06/11/2012 04:36 PM: >> Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote: >>> On 06/11/12 10:45, James Hatridge pecked at the keyboard and wrote: >>>> >>>> OK, its been a long time since I've set this up and I must be >>>> missing >>>> something. >>>> >>>> This is my host file: >>>> >>>> 192.168.0.101 warthog.de warthog >>>> >>>> But when I try to use FF to go to warthog or warthog.de it times >>>> out. When I >>>> use www.warthog.de I get some odd dating site. >>> >>> Since you apparently do not own the domain come up with one that is >>> not. >>> Then it should work. >> >> It's not relevant if he owns the domain or not. If he has the cited >> entry in his hosts file, access to warthog should work. > > > No. > Read what he says. > His entry is >>>> 192.168.0.101 warthog.de warthog > and he's trying to contact > www.warthog.de > > He doens't have an entry for www.warthog.de Anton, please read emails in full before replying. I explained it in the rest of the email that you discarded and obviously didn't read at all. Just for you, to repeat it: *First*, he tries to connect to warthog and warthog.de. It times out. There, his hosts file *is* used. That he doesn't own warthog.de has no relevance at all to this problem. The recommendation of Ken to change the host entry names warthog and warthog.de to some different host names that aren't defined in some DNS server won't change that behaviour a single bit. The IP address of that entry will still be used for connection and it will still time out. By now, we have already established that he simply uses an IP address in this hosts entry that his system doesn't have. That's the reason for "try to use FF to go to warthog or warthog.de it times out", as cited above by you. In my 1st email I also explained why www.warthog.de doesn't work, since DNS lookup is used for that. Just as you wrote as well. I know from your past posts that you're knowledgable. How about helping James with his actual problem? Cheers, Joachim PS: For completeness, hosts entries _could_ be ignored by a misconfigured nsswitch.conf. But that's not probable to be done by a person who asks basic questions about hosts entries. It's not implausible that he doesn't even know what nsswitch.conf is at all. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod, Roedermark, Germany Email: jschrod(a)acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: host file question
by Joachim Schrod 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

James Hatridge wrote: > 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP > qlen 1000 > link/ether e0:cb:4e:a7:58:ff brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff > inet 192.168.178.21/24 brd 192.168.178.255 scope global eth0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is your IP address. You used a different one in the hosts file. Use this one. (The "/24" suffix at the end does not belong to the address that is to be put in the hosts entry.) But: If such a hosts entry will work in the future is a different question. That depends on your network infrastructure and the way your ethernet interface's IP addresses are defined. Standard home or SOHO environment is a DHCP server (often from a DSL router box) that serves out the same addresses to a system each time it's asked. If that's your environment, it will probably work for quite some time. Corporate environments or laptops that are connected to different networks over time are completely different beasts and are likely not to work after next boot or at the next network connection. HTH, Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod, Roedermark, Germany Email: jschrod(a)acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: host file question
by Joachim Schrod 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote: > On 06/11/12 16:36, Joachim Schrod pecked at the keyboard and wrote: >> >>> Also the entry needs to be in the format of: >>> >>> <IP address> FQDM ALIAS >> >> Ahem, technically no. You probably know that, but I want to mention >> it for the archives. The format is >> >> IP_address name1 [name2 ...] >> > > I beg to differ: > > pc1:~ # cat /etc/hosts > # > # hosts This file describes a number of hostname-to-address > # mappings for the TCP/IP subsystem. It is mostly > # used at boot time, when no name servers are running. > # On small systems, this file can be used instead of a > # "named" name server. > # Syntax: > # > # IP-Address Full-Qualified-Hostname Short-Hostname > # The openSUSE comment in /etc/hosts is a recommendation what to put there. It is not a technical specification. To get the fine print, please read the manual page: man hosts This manual page describes the format of the /etc/hosts file. This file is a simple text file that associates IP addresses with hostnames, one line per IP address. For each host a single line should be present with the following information: IP_address canonical_hostname [aliases...] Nowhere in the hosts man page is the term domain even named. Furthermore, you can try it out. Add a line 192.168.1.111 xmpl xmple.foo.baz xmpl.example.com www.google.com to your hosts file (with a fitting IP address, of course). Then you'll be able to ping all three names. Of course, you won't be able to use Google any more... ;-) Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod, Roedermark, Germany Email: jschrod(a)acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] KGpg: 2.7.2 does not work with KDE 4.8.3
by Peter Maffter 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

It just throws > kgpg QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. and exits. That was working with KDE 4.7.2 and kgpg 2.6.1. Any pointers? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Forums seem unreachable from here.
by Jim Henderson 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:48:58 -0700, Steven Hess wrote: > Now I am ending up here in Firefiox after what I can only guess is a > failed log in. In short I can't log in. Just tried it myself and it seems to work OK from here. If you clear cache/cookies, does it still persist in not working? Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Forums seem unreachable from here.
by Steven Hess 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

The Forums seem unreachable from here. Chrome says" "No data received Unable to load the webpage because the server sent no data." I guess it's the ongoing problem Steven -- ____________ Apply appropriate technology. Use what works without prejudice. Steven L Hess ARS KC6KGE DM05gd22 Google Voice 661 769 6201 +SMS openSUSE Linux 12.1 KDE 4.7.2 Known as FlameBait and The Sock Puppet of Doom. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] firefox/thunderbird and root certificates
by Per Jessen 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

I'm trying to install a new root CA - I've placed it in /etc/ssl/certs, and done the rehash. Testing openssl s_client works, but firefox doesn't seem to recognise it. Does firefox not look in /etc/ssl/certs or do I need a magic wand? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.1°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Apache2: Failed to issue method call: Unit name apache2 is not valid
by Sascha Manns 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

Hello mates, today i've some trouble to start my apache2. The shell says: linux-8t94:/etc/init.d # systemctl start apache2 Failed to issue method call: Unit name apache2 is not valid. Does anyone knows, where i can locate this issue? I've searched already in /etc/apache2 and such things. The last i've done was to try out ISPConfig. I've installed it via "php -q install.php" and after testing i've uninstalled it via "php -q uninstall". The Folder for ISPConfigs home was gone. The error_log says: unable to start piped log program ' /usr/local/ispconfig/server/scripts/vlogger -s access.log -t "%Y%m%d- access.log" -d "/etc/vlogger-dbi.conf" /var/log/ispconfig/httpd': No such file or directory. Unable to open logs I'm thinking that a Rest of this Program triggers my first issue. Can this be? Or should i search on another place? BTW: It's openSUSE 12.1 -- Sincerly yours Sascha Manns Community Agent open-slx GmbH Web (business): http://www.open-slx.com Web (private): http://saigkill.homelinux.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] No scroll bars in thunderbird 12.0.1
by Anton Aylward 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

I've just been upgraded to 12.0.1 and most of the themes I had/use seem to have lost their scroll bars on the message list and on the message. Is this an idiosyncrasy of 12? Well, its not a new problem! http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=25727&highlight=scroll+bar I'm also seeing these in the error console: Timestamp: 06/10/2012 09:18:25 PM Warning: Error in parsing value for 'background-image'. Declaration dropped. Source File: http://s.ytimg.com/yt/cssbin/www-embed-vflue4cGj.css Line: 1 heck! Its a one-line-whole file css, so I don't know the image its talking about! Is this a local error or an error at their end? Timestamp: 06/10/2012 09:18:25 PM Warning: Unknown property 'box-sizing'. Declaration dropped. Source File: http://s.ytimg.com/yt/cssbin/www-embed-vflue4cGj.css Line: 1 -- intaxification (n): Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you realize it was your money to start with. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Getting tired of personal attacks and bad behaviour on thi s list
by Jim Henderson 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:29:05 -0400, Dirk Gently wrote: > Jim Henderson wrote: >> On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:00:48 -0400, Dirk Gently wrote: >> >>> I'm merely stating historical facts which are well document in the >>> archives of this list. >>> >>> Your objection is that I wrote something which isn't all happy happy >>> joy joy about the KDE4 team. >> >> No. My objection is that you decided to engaged in a protracted >> personal attack against one member of the KDE4 team. > > I never did any such thing. Not only that, but you specifically got > your nose all out of joint BEFORE I replied to C's smug "how dare you > talk about the past behavior of us on the KDE4 team" reponse. Look, Aaron, you have called that member of the KDE4 team a liar in the past. You've been stumping on that (and have been thrown off this list multiple times) for years. (Yes, I knew who I was actually talking to some time ago - your MO is unmistakeable.) What's more, there's nothing one who you have tarred with that label can do to have it removed in your mind. They can't undo the past. They can only acknowledge it (which you claim they have done) and move forward. > Now you're one of the liars, too, Jim. However, that you would > eventually join the chorus of lies doesn't surprise me. Your very first > reply to me was over your objection to anybody writing the truth. No, it was not an objection to anybody writing the truth. It was about your overly offensive way of presenting your view of the truth. As it has been in the past, and as it probably will continue to be in the future. Your first reply was essentially "you need to install KDE3 to get this functionality back". Completely helpful and useful advice. When asked about getting it in KDE4, instead of saying something like "No, that functionality won't be part of KDE4 according to the dev team", you launched into a tired old rant that gave you away. What you fail to understand is that even if one assumes you have a valid point, your way of presenting that point does absolutely nothing to help your credibility in doing that. You continue to be offensive and engage in ad hominem attacks to try to get your point across. As I have said to you in the past, you spend a LOT of energy on this and surely you must expect to get something out of it. So use your energy in a way that actually changes things rather than in the way that you do - which changes NOTHING. You clearly have passion about openSUSE, or you wouldn't (a) continually try to work around the fact that you've been banned from this list multiple times, and (b) continue to bring up things you see as a problem. If you expect something to change, you can't bludgeon your way to fixing it. Shouting "You are all liars!" into a room full of people you want to convince to change a behaviour for is counterproductive, and is likely to get you thrown out of the room (again). If you don't expect anything to change and can't be bothered to employ a technique that actually can effect a change, then you should find something that DOES make you happy. Unless getting banned from the list repeatedly is some sort of trophy for you that brings you tremendous joy and satisfaction - in which case, I'm sure the list admins will be more than happy to oblige you with again. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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