February 2010 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] ECS A785GM-M & ATI RADEON HD 4200 + Opensuse 11.1
by Virgani Dirgacahya 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

All, I'm just a newbie and try to install OpenSuse 11.1 on my compie: Mobo: ECS A785GM-M VGA: ATI Radeon HD 4200 All working fine, until I trying to upgrade my VGA driver. Do this: 1. Download ati-driver-installer-10-1-x86.x86_64.run and then run it as a root PC05008:/etc/X11 # sh ./ati-driver-installer-10-1-x86.x86_64.run follow all instructions on screen, and then run command PC05008:/etc/X11 # /usr/bin/aticonfig --initial -f after all reboot the system. re-login, and got the message "Kwin is unstable" ... no-keyboard response at all. So I do uninstall ATI Driver with steps: (as a root): # cd /usr/shar/ati/ # sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh and replace /etc/X11/xorg.conf with xorg.conf.original-0 2. Try 1-click feature from opensuse.org but it's seems the x11-video-fglrx-G02.rpm have a badsum. any clue ? sorry for my poor English. Regards, Virgani D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Best KDE4 Trick In A While - Moving the Cashew to the top-left of the desktop (no I didn't know)
by David C. Rankin 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

Listmates, This will obviously draw a "Duh??" response from most of you, but for those that don't know you can do this, it may remove a frustration with kde4. For me the peanut/cashew has always been a pain, not because it doesn't work -- it works just fine, but it always prevented me from configuring the top-right corner of my desktop the way I wanted. Basically the blooming peanut was always in the way. So out of frustration, I just put my mouse on it clicked -> held-down and dragged that sucker out of the way and -- it worked! First I just moved it down far enough to put my digital clock in the corner -- finally. When you put it on an edge, the cashew has a nice rectangular tab. Next I put it in the top-left corner out of my desktop and it returned to the normal 1/4 circle corner widget. Give it a go if you need to recapture one corner of your desktop. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] kde 44 Bonobo - Prevents Gnome Appearance from running in Gnome
by David C. Rankin 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

Guys, I forgot the biggie for kde 4.4. For some reason there is this thing called bonobo that cause gnome appearance to crash in gnome. How do I tell bonobo not to keep running so I can run Gnome again? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] qt3 vs qt4 user interface
by Istvan Gabor 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

Hello: Reading about qt3, qt4 and KDE4 speed lead me to writing this. I don't know if the thing I am writing about is general or not. But eg. if I use opera web browser with qt3 I can copy/paste directory paths in open/save file dialogs. In opera with qt4 I can not copy/paste directory paths, I have to select directories by clicking several times which makes localization of a directory very cumbersome. So if this difference is caused by qt3-qt4 difference I think it is a regression. Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4.4
by David C. Rankin 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

On 02/13/2010 12:16 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 13/02/10 16:32, David C. Rankin wrote: <snip> >> >>> (And if y'all are still stuck on KDE3 then it is time to move forward >>> >> I would have read: >> >> "(And if y'all are still stuck on KDE3 then it is time to install kde4. It >> install quite fine right along side kde3" :p >> >> And actually, just as kde4 is making good leaps forward, the developers have >> not ignored kde3 (at least those developers that maintain kde3 for openSuSE). >> Since the release of 11.2, the kde3 packages have received an incredible clean >> up and is in really good shape. So a double thanks to the KDE devs. >> > > Initially I had great sympathy with people for wanting to keep KDE3 > going because of the features it had and the ease with which they could > be accessed, configured and used. > > But what I now feel is that the insistence to keep KDE3 going is a waste > of resources. The time would be better spent on people putting their > effort into improving KDE4. > I agree, but while kde4 is still undergoing such intense development, you need a fallback for those times when kde4 may have an unintended feature pop up. Case-in-point. I'm using 4.4, but I am experiencing random application crashes in both kde and non-kde apps. Which while I'm dinking around like I am tonight, I don't really care if an app crashes, I'll just go file the bug report. However, if I am in a mission critical situation, ( e.g. at 3:00 on the day that a response to a motion for summary judgment is due by 5:00 ) There is no way I would risk the probable loss of even 10 minutes of production time or the break in concentration on an app crash and process clean up, not even mentioning the risk of file corruption resulting from the crash ) When I need an desktop that I know I can trust to get me through filing or whatever I am doing, I will be more than happy to fire of kde3 and oo to get the job done. In those instances where zero-fail is a requirement, kde4 doesn't measure up yet. > Now, one of the complaints I've been reading is that KDE4 has a lot of > (?)'bling', uses up computer resources and is slower than KDE3. > > Well, I have an old clunker of a computer (which I put together myself > some 6 years ago) and I find (or rather sense, since I haven't used KDE3 > for quite some time now) that KDE4 is *faster *than KDE3. Albeit, I do > not have the Desktop Effects activated - I see no need, nor have a need, > for them. And perhaps this is where people are getting the wrong picture > about 4? *Nobody* has to switch on the Effects - they are not mandatory. > Here is where I honestly disagree. I have kde3 and kde4 on everything from my indestructible Abit KT7 w/Athlon T-bird 800, to boxes with screaming phenom processors. In every single case kde3 is crisp and responsive while on the older boxes even w/o dt-effect, kde4 is just much slower. I can't say slower from a processing standpoint, because on the mid machines you can still compile apps 4 times as fast as on the old box, but the desktop is sluggish. menu delay, click ... wait.. response type issues. I'll have to think up a meaningful metric or two to test and get some data so we can have some data, but in my personal experience 3 on older boxes is the only thing to use. > On the other hand, I do not know how KDE4 works on laptops (I've never > had one, nor intend to get one) vs KDE3. Maybe for laptops KDE3 is > better? - dunno. > That has probably got to be one of the keys. Most all the older boxes are ATA, and even my laptop with with a sata interface, kde4 must be more disk intensive then kde3 as one measure. Even my older box - (the t-bird) has 1G of ram, so from a memory standpoint that should be sufficient. Oh well, all I can say is I like them both and I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY agree with you, you have never seen bling like you see in KDE4. It's just damn gorgeous! > Basil > -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] nscd in 11.2
by Pit Suetterlin 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

Hi all, just installed 11.2 on my new laptop. I noticed that nscd is creating an immense logfile - something like a kB/s. Now I have several questions: - is this normal? - on startup it tells me 13:03:43.02421 nscd v0.45, debug level 0xf ah, being verbose!? Tried debug-level 0 in /etc/nscd.conf, but that doesn't work - it still reports 0xf and produces tons of output :-(( - apart from that the logfiles show(*) that some process is requesting my /etc/passwd entry every few seconds - is that normal? Any idea how I could find out what that is, and why? (*)at least as I interpret this... Any insight is highly welcome, Pit -- Dr. Peter "Pit" Suetterlin http://www.astro.su.se/~pit Institute for Solar Physics Tel.: +34 922 405 590 (Spain) P.Suetterlin(a)royac.iac.es +46 8 5537 8507 (Sweden) Peter.Suetterlin(a)astro.su.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] non-persistant audio setting
by Hans Witvliet 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

Hi all, After i upgraded my son's acer towards 11.2, he complained about no audio anymore. First i susspected the cabling, but i founf out that after doing: yast2->sound->other->volume, changing master-Volume and other-front, audio was back again. However, after a reboot, these two settings are back to zero again. How to change that permenently? Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Problem with ath5k with latest 2.6.31.12 kernel
by Christian Ehrlicher 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

Hi, with the latest kernel coming from online update or http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/openSUSE-11.2/openSUSE_11… my the5k is no longer recognized: dmesg | grep ath5k: [ 12.282359] ath5k 0000:06:02.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22 [ 12.282481] ath5k 0000:06:02.0: registered as 'phy0' [ 12.797142] ath5k phy0: Invalid EEPROM checksum 0xc842 [ 12.797260] ath5k phy0: unable to init EEPROM [ 12.797382] ath5k 0000:06:02.0: PCI INT A disabled [ 12.797419] ath5k: probe of 0000:06:02.0 failed with error -5 With 2.6.31.8 all works fine: dmesg | grep ath5k: [ 11.361726] ath5k 0000:06:02.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22 [ 11.361806] ath5k 0000:06:02.0: registered as 'phy0' [ 11.735256] ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2413 chip found (MAC: 0x78, PHY: 0x45) All on OpenSUSE 11.2, 64 bits Any idea what's going wrong here? Thx, Christian Ehrlicher

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[opensuse] WARNING - "I'll see you, and raise you the next coolest KDE 44 tip & trick - Full Acces to Apps in DT Context Menu"
by David C. Rankin 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

Listmates, KDE44 has made great progress in the desktop context area. In kde3 one of the things I liked the most was the ability to assign my the right mouse click on the desktop to a custom launcher. You could define multiple custom launchers and switch depending on the task at hand. (graphics, web dev, document prep, etc...) KDE44 has finally added a good part of that capability back. So far, you only get that ability to add the whole suse menu to a mouse button which isn't as good as having the ability to add just the 8-10 favorite apps to a couple of launchers, but it is a great step forward. I reassign the standard menu to the middle-mouse click on the desktop and assign the application launcher to the right mouse button so use is consistent with just about every other DT out there (icewm, blackbox, fluxbox, openbox, enlightenment, windowmaker, etc..). You will find this option in Desktop Activity Settings (i.e. rt-click the desktop), the choose 'Mouse Actions'. You can then assign what happens when you click the left, right and middle mouse buttons on the desktop. By default, 'paste' is set for the middle mouse button -> get rid of it. From what I can tell, the only thing it is good for is pasting text into the little stickies. For everything else, you are middle clicking in a 'window' and that continues to work no matter what this setting is set to. So I set the Middle-Button to 'Standard Menu' to free up the Right-Button for the 'Application Launcher'. Then just click Apply and go click on your desktop. I'll wager you will be pleasantly surprised. See: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/kde4/ss/K4-rt-click-menu.jpg -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] kdeDevs - Any way I can I use the old widget selector & howto change color of 'Leave a Note' widget?
by David C. Rankin 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

Listmates, kdeDevs Two questions. First, is there a switch that would let me use the old style widget selector that prevents a vertical list instead of the large icon slider at the bottom of the screen? The icons on the bottom is OK, but I navigate a vertical list with a normal scroll bar much faster.. Second, in kde44, how do I change the color of the 'Leave a Note' widget?? The baby-blue looks terrible on my dark red desktop.. Thanks for any answers you can give. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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