* John Andersen [02-12-10 00:37]:

I see no valid reason to put it top right. Its not where people normally look for that sort of stuff.

And you would also complain if it was located in the center of the screen! Did you make any suggestions when it's location was decided and have you proposed a better location in bugzilla or openFATE citing reasons for your choice? This is REALLY NITPICKING! -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 02/12/2010 09:09 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

This is REALLY NITPICKING!

What separates a truly spectacular desktop from the "what could have been" hacks -- is attention to detail. That's attention to logic, efficiency, usability and stability. That is where 3 stood apart from the rest. Virtually every element, key combination, mouse binding or menu layout had a reason behind why it was what it was other than "it's what was available." *KDE P*hilosophy and Core Tenets * Get it done NOW! ...... Shows.. This isn't a slam, it's reality. "Haste makes waste" isn't just some old meaningless saying. For example, in 44, trying to change the desktoptheme, style, window decorations, make a customization to the desktoptheme and then export a saved desktoptheme file is like 'pulling teeth' given the number of hopscotches you have to make through the control panel (if you can find where to do it to begin with), and this is just one example. You can't do things like this and expect users not to notice and be left scratching their heads. To be fair, I agree with: *KDE P*hilosophy and Core Tenets ...... * Improve iteratively. * Start with reasonable functionality and then improve over time. But a lot rides on the initial choices made. If you don't make good choices in where you "Start with reasonable functionality..." you leave yourself a whole lot more work to "...improve over time." I know it must be frustrating for the veteran kdeDevs. I don't know if there is a way to figuratively 'draw-a-line-in-the-sand' with where we are with kde4, take a day or two to figure out where each major component in 44 is going, perhaps reset some of the priorities, identify the issues with the initial choices made that can be fixed easily and reduce the amount of iterative improvement that will be required and just see if a smarter plan can be put in place for finishing the desktop. This isn't anything radical, it's just a normal part of the iterative development process with any large undertaking... and as far as desktops go, they don't get any bigger. It just makes since. If I can take two days of planning and reduce development time by 60 days, I'm 58 days ahead. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org