December 2010 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] software package version numbers vs build dates?
by dwgallien 05 Dec '10

05 Dec '10

Friends, For a very long time, I've noticed that YaST software management (and hence I presume zypper?) will determine the most current version of a package based upon its version number rather than its build date. Consequently, when packages are displayed, if there is a higher version number available YaST will show it in blue, whereas if there is an alternate package with a newer date but lower version number, it will be displayed in red. And, if the user does an "all in this list, update if newer version available", YaST will select those packages with higher version numbers (the blue) but not those with lower version numbers/newer build dates (the red). It appears that those packages with lower version numbers but newer build dates, are (at least sometimes) definitely the newer versions - the build date on the older version number can be as much as several months newer. While this is occurs most often in Packman packages, it also is occasionally the case with packages in SuSE repositories like 11.3 KDE 4.5. Can anyone explain why this is so? In particular, should the user only take the higher version number or, when a newer package is available although with an older version number, should that be given preference? (And I guess it follows, is YaST therefore behaving as it should?) Thanks in advance, Dennis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] desktop activities
by Peter Nikolic 05 Dec '10

05 Dec '10

Hi .. Right on 11.2 i had no problem getting various desktop activities setup and working as expecetd But now on 11.3 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 3" i can not for the life of me get them to work at all i can not set differing wallpapers i can not set differing folder views on each desktop how the heck is it supposed to be setup anyone got a howto or somethng to read on the subject Oh and before anyone says update your KDE been there wound up doing a complete re install to get a working system again dont got any interest in that one at all .. Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.5-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 3" 15:52 up 1 day 19:19, 4 users, load average: 0.65, 0.68, 0.69 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] How to prevent gnome screenlets from starting in kde4?
by David C. Rankin 05 Dec '10

05 Dec '10

Guys, For some reason, gnome screenlets loads every time kde4 starts. There is nothing in Autostart or autostart and I kill the process every time. Where do I tell it not to start? I never told it to start in kde4 in the first place?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Experimenting with rsyslog message formats
by Carlos E. R. 05 Dec '10

05 Dec '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm trying to get rsyslog to output the messages in a format I would like. I'm, using the "RSYSLOG_SyslogProtocol23Format" template for one of the log files, which prints like this: <30>1 2010-11-22T16:29:04.707021+01:00 Telcontar smartd 3860 - - Device: /dev/sdc [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 29 to 28 For this I use this rule: *.* -/var/log/allmessages;My_SyslogProtocol23Format The problem starts with the templates: the definitions are not documented, I had to dig them out of the sources: static uchar template_SyslogProtocol23Format[] = "\"<%PRI%>1 %TIMESTAMP:::date-rfc3339% %HOSTNAME% %APP-NAME% %PROCID% %MSGID% %STRUCTURED-DATA% %msg%\n\""; I would like the timestamp to be like "2010-11-22 16:29:04". To this end I define my own template derived from that one: $template My_SyslogProtocol23Format,"<%PRI%> %TIMESTAMP:::date-rfc3339% %HOSTNAME% %APP-NAME% %PROCID% %MSGID% %STRUCTURED-DATA% %msg%\n" which works - ie, it is the same as the original one. So far, so good. But I can't find documentation for the "TIMESTAMP" formats supported. In the file "features.html" I see: +++······················ Current Features ... • good timestamp format control; at a minimum, ISO 8601/RFC 3339 second-resolution UTC zone ······················++- date-rfc3339 produces output like 2010-11-22T17:09:20.201284+01:00, which is different from what the CLI equivalent does: cer@Telcontar:~> date --iso=ns ; date --rfc-3339=ns 2010-11-22T17:13:58,866637161+0100 2010-11-22 17:13:58.868123100+01:00 (the one I want is --rfc-3339=seconds, wich in "date" does not print the "T") I think that rsyslog got the specification reversed. Anyway, if I try the "other one" in the template: $template My_SyslogProtocol23Format,"<%PRI%> %TIMESTAMP:::date-rfc8601% %HOSTNAME% %APP-NAME% %PROCID% %MSGID% %STRUCTURED-DATA% %msg%\n" I get this output: <46> Nov 22 17:16:48 Telcontar rsyslogd - - - ... which means it was not recognised at all. I have also tried "date-rfc8601=seconds" and "date-rfc33390seconds", none works. There is no mention in the sources of "rfc8601", only date-rfc3164 and date-rfc3339. So the question is, what are the syntax timestamp modifiers, what modifiers are really available? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkzqm1QACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XB/QCdFplR7PrrUNB68IMeexmbqhsV tkgAnii2U2fSQdb/ayyznyN0HmtyJHHL =ZfGN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[opensuse] plasmadesktop+kwin memory hog solution
by michael getachew 04 Dec '10

04 Dec '10

Hello, this is really not a question but more of an answer in case any of you run into this situation. whenever i am running kde after a few days plasma-desktop grows to take well over 1gb ram and 1gb swap and kwin over around 500Mb and i have to restart x. recently i started an application in console that i need to run for a few days(if not weeks). but like i said plasma-desktop and kwin were taking so much memory the system became extremely unresponsive. well here is the solution i have found: for kwin(kinda obvious but i didn't think of it at first): kwin --replace & plasma-desktop: kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 20s && plasma-desktop & if plasma desktop doesn't start wait for a few more seconds and type plasma-desktop& other than that this is imo a huge bug that needs fixing. if anyone has any other way of making plasma-desktop ,kwin and also xorg take much less memory then please share. p.s.: firefox is another memory hog too. but i couldn't find any solution(i've even tried a custom compiled firefox. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] question about useradd ldap
by Juan Pablo Romero Méndez 03 Dec '10

03 Dec '10

Hello, I'm trying to programmatically create/delete ldap users on opensuse 11.2. So far, I've manage to operate with useradd/userdel. But, I've noticed several peculiarities. The first one is that ldap users created through yast have different objectClass attributes than those created through useradd: useradd users objectClass: account, posixAccount, shadowAccount. yast users objectClass: inetOrgPerson, posixAccount, top. Is it possible to configure useradd to use inetOrgPerson as structural class for each new user? Or perhaps is best to create users using a client api (like python-ldap)? Best regards, Juan Pablo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Missing SEO Tools
by Martin Mielke 03 Dec '10

03 Dec '10

Hi all, I've been searching on the list archives, Packman, google etc but unfortunately I cannot find Linux-based SEO (search engine optimization) Tools. Is this because they simply don't exist under Linux? Please comment. Thanks in advance, Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] dosbox <> kde 4.5 ctrl-f12 issue
by Per Jessen 03 Dec '10

03 Dec '10

dosbox uses Ctrl-F12 to increase the number of CPU cycles, but somehow this is interfering with KDE. If I start dosbox, then try to increase cpu cycles by hitting ctrl-f12 a number of times, the window is minimized. Only once I have my DOS application running am I able to increase the cycles. Anyone else using dosbox? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-3.7°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] failed qgis rpm
by Gerald H Seibert 03 Dec '10

03 Dec '10

Running opensuse 11.3 on a dual core pc. Not sure whether this is an opensuse or qgis problem - When attempting to launch qgis, i get the following error: qgis: error while loading shared libraries: libnetcdf.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Qgis, netcdf,gdal1, etc were all installed via rpm. The above shared library is in my path, but still no luck. Anyone have an idea what might be amiss? Thanks! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] opensuse roadmap - where is it?
by Istvan Gabor 03 Dec '10

03 Dec '10

Hello: Earlier opensuse start page had a link called "more milestones" which lead to opensuse roadmap. It looked like this: http://web.archive.org/web/20080701034542rn_1/en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_op… http://web.archive.org/web/20080701041847/en.opensuse.org/Roadmap I can't find such a link at the new opensuse web page. Was the roadmap removed? If not how to navigate there? Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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