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[opensuse] Newer ATI based laptops, does the fglrx driver work? (or which laptop gpus work now?)
by David C. Rankin 01 Jan '10

01 Jan '10

Guys, I'm starting to look for another laptop. My current laptop is just fine, but it will not run 11.2 due to the lack of an ati (fglrx) driver. The current radeon or radeonhd driver are unworkable due to the heat/fan noise produced by the lack of sufficient gpu downclocking in the drivers to keep the temps down. Not to mention the 500% loss of graphics performance and continual Desktop Effects compositing shutdowns that occur. So for the time being, I've wiped 11.2 from my laptop and have gone back to 11.0. (sweet by the way) With the fglrx driver, my laptop is silent and blazing fast. With the radeon or radeonhd drivers, my laptop is loud as hell (fans on all the time) and the graphics suck. What I need to know is whether the newer fglrx driver for 2400+ series ATI laptop gpus works, from both a performance and cooling (fan noise) standpoint and whether you are satisfied with the chipsets. Also, from folks running nvidia based laptops, if you have a gpu chipset that works good with the nvidia driver, let me know. There are no sites that really compare opensuse laptop installs, gpu kernel modules, and the performance/cooling qualities. My current laptops with 9600 pro and x1200 chipsets work fabulous with the fglrx driver in 11.0, but are worthless for running 11.1 or 11.2 due to driver issues. I like good graphics performance and I want to gather information on what the current good laptop chipsets are. I have never really had that much luck with intel cards. They work fine, they're just slow even with EXA and UXA options. The ati cards worked fine until ATI stuck it to its linux customers. So what says the braintrust? Which laptop gpus work? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] hundreds of kio_http or kio_file processes in kde43?
by David C. Rankin 01 Jan '10

01 Jan '10

Listmates, 11.0 kde43 question. What is creating all the kio_http processes? I suspect it may be the daisy launcher plasmoid, but I'm not sure. An example of the processes created are: 4429 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_thumbnail [kdeinit] thumbnail local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopPl3683.slave-socket 4432 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_file [kdeinit] file local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopWs3683.slave-socket 4478 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopbh3683.slave-socket 4479 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopup3683.slave-socket 4750 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopEB3683.slave-socket 4751 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopLB3683.slave-socket 4752 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopjB3683.slave-socket 4753 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopdy3683.slave-socket 4754 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopUB3683.slave-socket 4755 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopCe3683.slave-socket 5105 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_file [kdeinit] file local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/konquerorRE5103.slave-socket 6381 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_file [kdeinit] file local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/systemsettingstQ6379.slave-socket 6382 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_file [kdeinit] file local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/systemsettingsmn6379.slave-socket 6383 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_file [kdeinit] file local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/systemsettingsGS6379.slave-socket 6407 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopmb3683.slave-socket 6408 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopzT3683.slave-socket 6682 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopAv3683.slave-socket 6683 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopSF3683.slave-socket 6684 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktoppe3683.slave-socket 6685 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopOT3683.slave-socket 6686 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopQV3683.slave-socket 6687 ? S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] http local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherMT3655.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-david/plasma-desktopVS3683.slave-socket 7029 pts/2 S+ 0:00 \_ grep kio <snip> There can be ~100 of these things. Any idea what these may be related to? lsof -p (pick a process) comes back as Greek, but a lot of greek. What would be a starting point for figuring this out? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Two small GNOME questions
by Stan Goodman 01 Jan '10

01 Jan '10

1) How does one get to a terminal? Asking the main menu for "terminal" brought up a window with icons for a lot of files, but no place to exercise bash. 2) I have set up a number of virtual desktops ("workspaces"). I have also set a background, and thought I was doing so for one such workspace individually. But it affects all workspaces equally. Is there a way to has different backgrounds for each one? I'm going to like GNOME. I liked KDE3 much better, but now that I have seen The Dark Side, I expect to be a lot less picky. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Where are the gnome repos for 11.0? Most repos only have 11.1 and 11.2??
by David C. Rankin 31 Dec '09

31 Dec '09

Guys, Recently I have begun installing gnome as part of my linux installs. Since openbox, enlightenment, etc.. all rely on pieces of gnome to some extent, having all the parts installed helps. After my latest 11.0 install, I can't seem to find the gnome repositories for 11.0. All of the repositories I find have only 11.1 and 11.2 packages. Where are the repos with the 11.0 packages? The only gnome repository that works is: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Community/openSUSE_11.0 ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/GNOME:/Community/openSUSE_11.0/ The following has an 11.0 directory, but they are EMPTY ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/GNOME:/STABLE/openSUSE_11.0 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/STABLE/openSUSE_11.0 There are NO corresponding 11.0 repositories for: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Apps/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Apps:/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Backports:/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Contrib/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Evolution:/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/GTK:/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/STABLE:/2.24/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/STABLE:/2.26/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/STABLE:/2.28/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/UNSTABLE/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/snapshots:/ What's the deal? Is gnome just not supported or available for 11.0? Does opensuse really not provide the gnome packages for 11.0 that it does for 11.1? Will the 11.1 packages work if I rebuild from the src.rpms? Just curious. I would really like to have a solid 2.28 for 11.0. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] okular can not open ps files
by Teruel de Campo MD 31 Dec '09

31 Dec '09

Q: is there a way for okular to open .ps files? The backend ghoscript is working well because I can import a ps file but why I can not use is a a reader at least for 1 page? In the past kpdf was my favorite application but it does not work any more (kde4) and I try to find a replacement to use together with efax-gtk. Ghostview or xpdf is going backwards ;-) gimp is too much. Any tips or suggestions. Happy New Year to all!! -=terry=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] config file for system backup?
by Carlos F Lange 31 Dec '09

31 Dec '09

Where is the configuration of a profile created with YaST System Backup in openSUSE 11.1 stored? -- Carlos F Lange University of Alberta -- Recursive: Adj. See Recursive. -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] kde4 runtime install wiped the kde (3) entry from my kdm list - howto fix?
by David C. Rankin 31 Dec '09

31 Dec '09

Listmates, In 11.0 with kde3, the upgrade of several apps pulled in the kde4 runtime and other kde4 base apps and for some reason it wiped the kde3 entry from my kdm greeter list. The default DM is still DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm3" and DEFAULT_WM="startkde3". Since the 'default' is still kde3, I can still start kde3 by selecting 'default' from the kdm list, but I would like to actually have an entry for KDE3 there like my other boxes do. I have grepped until my fingers hurt, but I can't find "the list" of installed wm's that is displayed anywhere. How does this list get generated? Where to I add the KDE3 entry to get it back? This is the first time that kde3 has disappeared out of probably 10 similar installs. My only guess is that this is the first install where I had both OSS and KDE43 repositories configured for the initial update. Not a problem, I just want to finally know how to put the kde3 entry back. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Removing a failed disk from a dmraid array
by David C. Rankin 31 Dec '09

31 Dec '09

Listmates, After recently having a bit of fun with a dmraid array, I thought I would pass along the information in case anyone else may need it in the future. REMOVING A FAILED DISK FROM A DMRAID ARRAY To remove a failed disk from a dmraid array, the easy approach is to first deactivate the raid array in the raid bios setup during the boot sequence to disable dmraid functionality. (usually done by pressing F10 within 4 seconds of the bios POST completing) If you have more that one set of disk arrays created in the bios, just deactivate the array containing the failed disk. Then, use a boot disk (your install CD/DVD) to boot your installed system on the good disk. (The suse 11.2 DVD worked fine to boot my 10.3 system. Note: If you have another Linux system installed, you do not need your install disk, just boot from it) The install disk will search for the available boot partitions and you should be able to choose to boot from the good disk. NOTE: for my raid installs, I always mirror /, /boot, /home, any other partitions AND swap for just this purpose. When a disk fails, I have a complete system to boot on either disk. After successfully booting the installed system on the good disk, then: (1) edit and configure /boot/grub/device.map (to change hd0 and add hd1 reference to /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, respectively. When done it will look something like: (hd0) /dev/sda (hd1) /dev/sdb (fd0) /dev/fd0 then; (2) /boot/grub/menu.lst to change the references from your /dev/mapper raid array to your remaining good disk (hd1,4). You are now ready to reinstall grub on the good disk with: # grub grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 (hd1,4) (this will return your "grub root" for the single disk setup, e.g. (hd0,4) (hd1,4), etc..) grub> root (hd1,4) # or whatever was returned as your grub root Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 grub> setup (hd1) # or whatever your good disk was (e.g. (hd0) ) Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd1)"... 15 sectors are embedded. succeeded Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd1) (hd1)1+15 p (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... succeeded Done. grub> quit Grub is now installed in the mbr of the remaining good disk. Now go get a replacement for the failed disk and recreate your array. (your remaining disk may be the next to go... ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] how to test/read network settings?
by Istvan Gabor 31 Dec '09

31 Dec '09

Hello: What are the settings on openSUSE 11.1 that affect network behavior, and how can I test/check them? Eg. how can I find the differences between network settings when they were set up by ifup or networkmanager? Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] upgrade from 10.3
by John Heinen 31 Dec '09

31 Dec '09

I really don't know because 10.3 was my first introduction. Does it upgrade like windows, downloading upgrades, or should I purchase the latest and install it over the present? I was told that we can't upgrade with our dial-up phone line on account of line interruptions -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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