December 2009 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] Thunderbird 3 user experience
by Wolfgang Rosenauer 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

Hi, since the release of Thunderbird 3 for 11.2 and also older distributions from the OBS repository we got some feedback with usability concerns (sometimes recognized as bugs). I can see some (or even most) of them as valid but there is not that much we can do from here. Please raise your concerns and upgrade issues at the following site: http://www.getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging The guys really would like to hear your feedback I've been told. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Ejecting a USB memory stick in v11.2
by Stan Goodman 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

At the moment, there is a memory stick in a USB port in my machine. In "My Computer" (as they say in Windowese), it has a line in the list of storage devices. When I float the mouse cursor over it, a confidence-inspiring message appears, assuring me that I can "Press the right mouse button for more options (such as Mount or Eject)". Pressing the right button does give me a list of things I might do, but neither Mount or Eject (or any synonym) appears. Short of shutting the machine down in order to flush the device's buffer, how does one remove the memory stick? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Folder colors in New Thunderbird
by Robert Cunningham 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

After installing the new Thunderbird from the Suse repositories my unread folders now turn this light green color until I click on them, they are very hard to read with this color. I tried adding a user profile (userChrome.css) and adding a few things there that was suggested but that does seem to have any affect. I have tried looking in the manual but that just seems to be a dictionary of terms. Does anybody have a clue as to how to change this color? Robert Cunningham S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Daily cron job
by Bruce Ferrell 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

I notice it's running at midnight system time. How can I make it run at some other time? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Carelessness busts Linux security
by lynn 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

On Monday 14 December 2009 08:05:15 you wrote: > lynn wrote: > > Hi everyone > > Sorry to come in late on this but I think it selfish that a user be able > > to install just his set of software. It would be very difficult for him > > to install all the packages and put the libraries in his path. If root > > does it, everyone can share the libs and application. > > Your utter ignorance of the security issues in a multi-user > environment are appalling. > > What if I DON'T WANT that other user's application(s)? > > Perhaps he has installed a program with the same name as one > of the programs I use. Under your system, I have no real > control over what executables *I* run, because any other > yahoo on the system can install his own version of a program > with the same name as a common app, but which does something > completely differently (or merely incompatibly) and thereby > create chaos for everyone. > > What you're doing is arguing against the very mechanism > which PREVENTS Unix and Linux from being the malware > cesspool that Windows is. > > > It also would make the server > > have to store all his applications just for his use. Google Earth is a > > good bad example. Anyone can install it so you are faced with a server > > having 200 copies of google earth. > > Love L x > I may not have been to university and may have learned everthing I know for the past 7 years almost entirely by asking questions on this list but that doesn't make me ignorant. I run a 20 user computer network using nfs, nis, apache and dansguardian. We've never had a day off work unless un apagón. I know of no one who runs his own computer using Linux. Love L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] NetworkManager issues in 11.2
by Robert Schweikert 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

I am having issues connecting to a wireless network using NetworkManager in 11.2. I am using the same settings as another machine that is running 11.1. When I turn the NetworkManager off I can connect to the wireless AP. I am using WEP, GNOME desktop. The wireless hardware is Intel PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN (same as on the 11.1 machine that works). The iwlagn driver is used by the kernel according to lspci -k. The log of the AP doesn't show anything. On the 11.1 machine I have a firmware package (iwl5000-ucode) which no longer appears to exist in 11.2 Are there instructions somewhere in getting NetworkManager working again? Help is appreciated. Thanks, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU Software Engineer Consultant LINUX rschweikert(a)novell.com 781-464-8147 Novell Making IT Work As One -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Desktop Eval - Maybe Useful to Some...
by David C. Rankin 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

Listmates, This is an excerpt from another post I wrote recently in an offlist discussion, but I thought I would pass along the general parts concerning the desktop evaluations just in case anyone else may want a little summary of what all the alternative desktops for openSuSE are and a sentence or two about each. Gnome and KDE will always be the titans of the Linux desktop, but don't overlook enlightenment, the "BoxTops" or iceWM, they are really really good desktops. Simple, but good. And since you already have your kde or gnome apps installed, just fire them up in the desktop of your choice. (Yes, VirtualBox works fine in all of them as well). The only caveat is that you will need to use yast to set up your network to use traditional ifup so you don't have to mess with starting your network in each of the desktops each time you login. Simple enough. I have probably spent more time in enlightenment lately that I have in either gnome or KDE. (Not that I'm dissing either). The waltz though the other desktops was largely prompted by wanting to find a good looking 'light-weight' desktop that worked well through vnc or nx. It just so happens that enlightenment, openbox and a couple of others are are so good that they are worth serious consideration as your daily driver when you are in the mood for a change (or need to work on your kde4 settings without kde4 running). So without more, here goes: * blackbox (openbox with more tools [panels, runner app, etc..] * E-16 (absolutely love it -- I'd probably have to call this my favorite - it's been stable since 2000) I think I've passed a screenshot along before, but if not, here it is. I really like this desktop! Out of the 100's of themes available, just make sure you pull '23ozGlass', 'DarkOne', and 'Ganymede' themes. (you'll dig them) By far, the Ganymede theme is the most thorough, but below I'm using the DarkOne theme: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/ss/e/e16/e16-my-favorite-setup.jpg (it's 279k, but worth the extra 20 seconds of download) Make sure you get all the epplets AND the keyeditor for assigning shortcuts and you can make this desktop 'sing.' * E-17 (absolutely love it too. Both e16 and e17 are great dt's. e17 requires restart every now and then, but it is a gorgeous dt that is really coming together) Just make sure you get the 'A-SBlack-Esp1' theme. (you'll like it) * fluxbox - another good desktop. It uses a 'slit' (hidden task/icon bar) that works pretty well. * gnome - (never thought I would say it, but I really like it too. Talk about phenomenal 'dark themes' wow. Combine 'Neon' with 'Sonar' decorations and I don't think I've seen a better window layout) Not to mention all gtk apps are automatically themed correctly. * icewm - still a favorite over vnc. The UFO and microGUI themes are really nice. * you know kde/kde4 - enough said * lxde (blackbox, fluxbox, icewm and openbox + some nice tools for dynamic menus (scans gnome, kde & other apps and then is smart enough cache the results so the latest apps are always available in the menu if you have menu cache installed. (must have) I really like lxde too. All of this class of dt are incredibly solid dt's (bb, fb, icewm, ob, etc..) they just lack a bit of the creature comforts provided by enlightenment, kde and gnome) The only drawback I've found in this class is the absence or patchy disk cache/memory cache routines. I don't know why kdebase just doesn't take care of it when you open konqueror and expand /usr/share or something similar, but you can definitely tell a difference in the cache area. That does NOT mean they are unusable at all. What that means is that I had to look real hard to find any notable difference in desktop performance, and that is all I could come up with. * openbox - the best of class for this class of desktops. You have as many of the creature comforts as you are going to get with openbox. (make sure you have obmenu, obconf and wallmenu-0.3.py installed for you configuration editor, menu editor and dynamic wallpaper changing. It too has good support for dynamic menus & wallpaper changing, etc.. The only shortfall is the alt-f2 run command. Here you just have to grab either 'bbrun' from blackbox or 'fbrun' from flux and you are good to go. You are also in luck on themes. I know everone has a different taste, but I just got done summarizing a few of my favorite themes for openbox as well. (there are hundreds to choose from). Here is the collection you want to make sure are installed in /usr/share/themes: <short list> Artwiz-boxed Chaos2 Cyclism Carbon Mikachu Mire_v2_blue Onyx Spiffish <the "don't overlook" list> AbsE Bamboo BBstyle Curdled Dyne Gelb Isawagorilla Jolly Light-industry Mars Misted MOnst4-sky Nova-Blue Nova-Gold Onyx-black Onyx-Citrus Onyx-dcr Operation Peptide Simple Spiffe Spoff Wblue ** A few of the themes need a few 'tweaks', but other than that, they look great. This is pretty much the summary of my desktop eval. They all install easily with just a few config changes needed to setup the wallpaper changes, etc. Also, this isn't meant as a 'one dt is better than the other' post, so nobody start throwing rocks. I like them all. I know there are more benefits for each of the desktops that I haven't run across yet, so if you have a point or two to add, please help me out. All of the desktops above are available through yast/zypper. I would suggest loading a few additional repositories if you want to install them. The primary OBS window manager repository is: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/windowmanagers/ where you will find newer but stable versions of the desktops plus all the tools (obmenu, obconf, etc...) You can also add the individual WM repositories if you want to install the latest svn build such as: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/Enlightenment/ These are all great desktops and they have have their particular niche. If you have thought about taking them on a test-drive, I highly recommend it. Enjoy! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] 11.2 Desktop window
by Mark Hounschell 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

How does one get it back after clicking on the X button. Thanks Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] snd-es1938
by Stephen P. Molnar 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

OpenSuSE 11.2/KDE/AMD 64 bit CPU 1. Where can I download snd-es1938, and 2. How do I install it, once obtained? I have googled and found quite a few references, none of which lead me to a download site. Help will be appreciatedl Thanks in advance. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] repositories for Suse 10.3
by James D. Parra 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

Hello, Where can I find the repositories for the last updates for Suse 10.3? Don't want to reinstall the OS, however I do want to get the latest possible cifs-mount for it. Thank you, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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