June 2008 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse] 11.0 KDE 4 {first impressions}
by Jayson Rowe 21 Jun '08

21 Jun '08

John wrote: Fedora is a very much at the pointed end distro and do provide fixes. Any one that uses it should be very aware of that. Are suse going to provide fixes etc as they appear? Seems that the only option on 4.1 is a fresh install. Could also be that 4.1 will be available well before suse 11.1 comes out. I also understand that 4.1 final will follow rather quickly after 4.1. Put it all together and 4.0 doesn't seem to be a sensible option unless suse are going to fully support it and knowing KDE well it may turn out that the bug fixes and apps just dry up as all of the developers concentrate on 4.1 I have gained the impression that suse is the only major distribution going this way. Maybe the others are idiots. That's somewhat doubtful. John ___________________ John, I do see your point, and it's well taken. I personally am just happy that openSUSE has provided us with the absolute best 3.5.9 available, and I will gladly wait patiently until 11.1 for the best 4.(whatever) that is available, and I'm sure that's what we'll get. The Build service is also available for those who want to upgrade to 4.1 sooner, and I'm sure there will be a 1-click install available at the time it's ready. Personally, I'm running KDE 3.5.9 as my main desktop in 11.0, and I've installed a VM with 4.1 from the UNSTABLE build service repo to play w/ and keep up with the development. It's working out quite nicely for me, and I'm satisfied. Everyone does have different wants, and needs however. -jayson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] 11.0 KDE 4 {Not Ready for Prime Time - We told you so!}
by kbboykin＠comcast.net 21 Jun '08

21 Jun '08

-------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Raskolnikov Tkachuk <raskolnikov.tkachuk(a)gmail.com> > Rajko M. wrote: > > On Friday 20 June 2008 10:38:21 pm John Andersen wrote: > > > >> What's the point? The KDE team know all the things that are missing. > > > > Something will be added first, vote for that with bug report. > > > > How about: Don't release incomplete software without > explicitly labeling it as ALPHA. > > If I write a "scientific calculator" and I only > implement addition and subtraction and it doesn't > crash... it would be downright dishonest to release > it as version 1.0, on the grounds that multiply > and divide will be introduced in version 1.1, > and logrithms, exponentials, powers, and roots > will be dribbed out over versions 1.2.x, etc.. > and not actually having what anyone REASONABLY > expects of a scientific calculator in version 1.5. > > This is "a crock of shit, and it stinks"...please > stop trying to pass it off as "a vessel which contains > something which promotes growth and is extremely powerful" > > 1. We know better > > 2. It makes SUSE and Novell look exceedingly dishonest > for not being completely honest about the > current state of KDE 4. > > 3. You're making a VERY bad impression on first-time > SUSE Linux users -- especially those who have > never used Linux and/or KDE before. > > 4. We told you so. > > 5. We told you so. > > 6. For how many months have we been telling you this, > and you all refused to listen. > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org > Stop the FUD about Novell/SuSE. Fedora 9 also uses and promotes KDE4 -- Keith Boykin You are what you think - so always think positively! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Calling Firefox from Thunderbird
by Rich Gregor 21 Jun '08

21 Jun '08

Basil Chupin wrote: > Apologies for asking this question. > > Not too long ago someone had a problem of Firefox not being executed > when s/he clicked on an URL mentioned in a msg in Thunderbird. The > answer on how to resolve this problem was provided. After checking all > places I could think of, I cannot find what the solution to this hassle is. > > Could someone please either give me the answer or provide the link where > the answer is provided. > > (I've had TB and FF running now for years but they have been my own > installations, ie directly from Mozilla and installed in my home > directory. Last night I decided to use the Firefox as installed by > openSUSE 11.0 -- and the wheels fell off :'( : I cannot 'call up' FF > from TB.) > > Ciao. > > Basil, > >I can't find the post either, but I think it is: > >Edit->Preferences->Config:Editor > >Add/Edit > >network.protocol-handler.app.ftp user set string >/usr/bin/firefox >network.protocol-handler.app.http user set string >/usr/bin/firefox >network.protocol-handler.app.https user set string >/usr/bin/firefox > > >-- >David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. >Rankin Law Firm, PLLC >510 Ochiltree Street >Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 >Telephone: (936) 715-9333 >Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 >www.rankinlawfirm.com I'd tried that, before, in 10.3, and never got it to work. Sorta gave up. But, tried this, in a just-updated 11.0 - Personal Settings -> KDE components -> Component Chooser, and changed the Web Browser selection to 'firefox' (mine said mozillafirefox) Bingo!! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Passing credentials between apache2 servers?
by Ciro Iriarte 21 Jun '08

21 Jun '08

Hi, I'm going to setup two web servers, both will be authenticating by ldap, this is how I would like both to behave: Case 1: User access directly a page from server1, apache2 asks for user & password. Case 2: User access directly a page from server2, apache2 asks for user & password. Case 3: User access directly webappA on server1, apache2 asks for user & password, then then clicks a link on webappA to webappB on server2 and apache2 on server2 lets the user work WITHOUT asking for user & password and STILL sees him as Joe-the-authenticated user. Is it possible for apache2 running on server1 to pass the credentials to server2?, can this be done? Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] HPLIP on 11.0
by Erik Jakobsen 21 Jun '08

21 Jun '08

Hi... I would install HPLIP on my newly installed openSUSE 11.0. I couldn't see the HP start icon, and I did not know how to start it manually. Then I downloaded the HPLIP for the HPLIP website. I got this lacking dependencies, and have installed gcc. Maybe I need more gcc's installed ? INSTALL MISSING REQUIRED DEPENDENCIES ------------------------------------- warning: There are 6 missing REQUIRED dependencies. note: Installation of dependencies requires an active internet connection. warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: gcc (gcc - GNU Project C and C++ Compiler) warning: This installer cannot install 'gcc' for your distro/OS and/or version. error: Installation cannot continue without this dependency. Please manually install this dependency and re-run this installer. TIA Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Access denied to update file..
by Verner Kjærsgaard 21 Jun '08

21 Jun '08

Hi list, - just installed 11. Looks good! - openSUSE Updater wants to install 2 updates. It breaks, however, with Access denied to http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.0/rpm/i586/xorg-x11-server-7.3-110.2… eh, now what ? Anyone seen this? -- -------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 www.os-academy.dk +45 56964223 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: HPLIP on 11.0
by Charles philip Chan 21 Jun '08

21 Jun '08

Erik Jakobsen <erik_ja(a)mail.tele.dk> writes: > It is installed, but I can't find it in runlevel editor. Strange, so there is no service called hplip? What is the output of: ,---- | ls /etc/init.d/hplip `---- ? > # rpm -q hplip > hplip-2.8.4-28. If the file is not there, What is the output of: ,---- | rpm -ql hplip | grep etc `---- ? > How is that to be done, and do I have to follow the install example > from 10.3 ?. The compilation instructions are the same. You will need to change the paths in the "installation_sources" commands to point to the 11.0 repo. After looking at it more closely, you can do it in YAST/2 if you want. You will need to have the "OSS", "DEGUG", and the "NON-OSS" repo enabled. Now run this command as root: xterm -e su -c "yast --install cups cups-client cupsddk cups-devel dbus-1-devel python-gobject2 gcc-c++ ghostscript-library openssl libjpeg-devel net-snmp-devel glibc libtool libgphoto2-devel libusb libusb-devel make python-imaging python-qt python-ctypes dbus-1-python python-devel python-xml python python sane sane-devel sane xsane" > Where can I find the config.log file ? The config.log file is created in the top level of the source tree after you run the "./configure" commandline as specified on the page. Charles

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 11 KDE4 Pim Kontact crashes SOLVED
by Lívio Cipriano 21 Jun '08

21 Jun '08

On 20 June 2008, Lívio Cipriano wrote: > On 20 June 2008, dick_turpin wrote: > > "Setup groupware" in Kontact > > that also works fine > > I open "Setup groupware" dialogue and close it, cause I've no groupware, > and Kontact simply vanishes. I install the patches and worked with some minor tweaks : I had to start with a empty kde4 dir and then import the kde3 stuff. Now I've ti figure how to align the icons in my desktop :-) -- Regards, Lívio Cipriano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] NVIDIA, KDE and Compiz Fusion performance
by Rodney Baker 21 Jun '08

21 Jun '08

Hi all. I run an NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 video card (256MB video RAM) on an Athlon XP 2600 NForce2 based motherboard with 1GB RAM. I was running the NVIDIA binary drivers version 100.14.19 and all was going smoothly. After upgrading to version 169.12, things started to go awry with compiz and xorg between them constantly chewing up 100% CPU time. System response time was like stirring treacle. After editing xorg.conf and changing the order of a couple of options it all came good again, with very good performance as it should have been...until the latest KDE upgrades to version 3.5.9. Back to treacle again. I tried updating to 173.14.05 but no matter what I've tried I cannot get the system back to the level of performance that it should run at. Using kwin it is OK, but as soon as compiz is enabled the CPU goes to 100% and load averages hit 4+. It gets even worse if the emerald window decorator is running. I've followed the instructions in various forums re settings with compiz and xorg with no change. Tonight I'd had enough - I blew away the recent nvidia drivers and went back to 100.14.19, at which point the system is back to normal performance (i.e. running compiz and fusion with no detriment to performance over kwin). Has anyone else come across this with the latest drivers and kde updates? xorg.conf is below for reference. BTW, I was running nvidia twin-view with 2 monitors but one died so I'm back to a single screen. Getting rid of twin-view made no difference to the symptoms. ========================= xorg.conf =========================== # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder63) Mon May 19 00:33:37 PDT 2008 # /.../ # SaX generated X11 config file # Created on: 2008-06-11T23:11:20+0930. # # Version: 8.1 # Contact: Marcus Schaefer <sax(a)suse.de>, 2005 # Contact: SaX-User list <https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users> # # Automatically generated by [ISaX] (8.1) # PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! # Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout[all]" Screen "Screen[0]" 0 0 InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard[2]" "ExtraKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse[3]" "ExtraPointer" Option "Clone" "off" Option "VNC" "3 2" Option "Xinerama" "off" Option "aiglx" "true" EndSection Section "Files" InputDevices "/dev/gpmdata" InputDevices "/dev/input/mice" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/local" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/URW" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/PEX" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/kwintv" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xtest" FontPath "/opt/kde3/share/fonts" EndSection Section "Module" Load "freetype" Load "type1" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "extmod" Load "vnc" Load "dri" EndSection # Note: I have tried with and without aiglx and dri - no difference. Still # doesn't work right with the latest drivers... Section "ServerFlags" Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "on" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard[0]" Driver "kbd" Option "Protocol" "Standard" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbModel" "microsoftpro" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse[1]" Driver "mouse" Option "Buttons" "7" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Name" "Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical" Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2" Option "Vendor" "Sysp" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard[2]" Driver "rfbkeyb" Option "InputFashion" "VNC" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse[3]" Driver "rfbmouse" Option "InputFashion" "VNC" EndSection Section "Modes" Identifier "Modes[0]" ModeLine "1680x1050" 146 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 +hsync -vsync EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor[0]" VendorName "BNQ" ModelName "BENQ FP222W" UseModes "Modes[0]" DisplaySize 478 299 HorizSync 30.0 - 84.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 76.0 Option "CalcAlgorithm" "XServerPool" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Device[0]" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA" BoardName "GeForce FX 5500" Screen 0 Option "XAANoOffScreenPixmaps" "true" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen[0]" Device "Device[0]" Monitor "Monitor[0]" DefaultDepth 24 Option "UseEdidFreqs" Option "XvMCUsesTextures" Option "HWcursor" Option "NvAGP" "3" Option "usevnc" "yes" Option "httpdir" "/usr/share/vnc/classes" Option "httpport" "5800" Option "DisableGLXRootClipping" "True" Option "DamageEvents" "True" Option "UseEvents" "True" Option "RenderAccel" "True" Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "True" Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1680x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1680x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1680x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1680x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection ========================================================== Any suggesions/pointers gratefully accepted. Thanks, -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker(a)iinet.net.au =================================================== There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress. -- Mark Twain

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[opensuse] sane question
by Bob S 21 Jun '08

21 Jun '08

Hello SuSE people, Bought a new Epson all-in-one. Stylus CX9400F, Trying to install the scanner. Had to go and get the iscan package for it. Installed the package but Yast does not pick up the driver, In following the install how-to it states that "Sane 1.0.3" or later must be installed for it to work. I am running 10.3, I do not have a "sane 1.0.3" installed. I do have a sane-backends 1.0.19 installed. Back in 10.0 there was a plain "sane" package and it included sane-backends and other stuff. Checking on the sane download page I don't find a plain "sane" package except for the previously mentioned one in 10.0. Plenty of backends, frontends, other packages. I've spent hours on Google and prowling the vaarious sane pages. So, my question is : is sane a separate package from sane-backends that has something in it that is required for iscan other than sane-backends? Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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