[opensuse] NVIDIA, KDE and Compiz Fusion performance
Hi all.
I run an NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 video card (256MB video RAM) on an Athlon XP
2600 NForce2 based motherboard with 1GB RAM.
I was running the NVIDIA binary drivers version 100.14.19 and all was going
smoothly. After upgrading to version 169.12, things started to go awry with
compiz and xorg between them constantly chewing up 100% CPU time. System
response time was like stirring treacle.
After editing xorg.conf and changing the order of a couple of options it all
came good again, with very good performance as it should have been...until
the latest KDE upgrades to version 3.5.9. Back to treacle again. I tried
updating to 173.14.05 but no matter what I've tried I cannot get the system
back to the level of performance that it should run at.
Using kwin it is OK, but as soon as compiz is enabled the CPU goes to 100% and
load averages hit 4+. It gets even worse if the emerald window decorator is
running. I've followed the instructions in various forums re settings with
compiz and xorg with no change.
Tonight I'd had enough - I blew away the recent nvidia drivers and went back
to 100.14.19, at which point the system is back to normal performance (i.e.
running compiz and fusion with no detriment to performance over kwin).
Has anyone else come across this with the latest drivers and kde updates?
xorg.conf is below for reference.
BTW, I was running nvidia twin-view with 2 monitors but one died so I'm back
to a single screen. Getting rid of twin-view made no difference to the
symptoms.
========================= xorg.conf ===========================
# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder63) Mon May 19 00:33:37
PDT 2008
# /.../
# SaX generated X11 config file
# Created on: 2008-06-11T23:11:20+0930.
#
# Version: 8.1
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer
Rodney Baker wrote:
Hi all.
I run an NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 video card (256MB video RAM) on an Athlon XP 2600 NForce2 based motherboard with 1GB RAM.
I was running the NVIDIA binary drivers version 100.14.19 and all was going smoothly. After upgrading to version 169.12, things started to go awry with compiz and xorg between them constantly chewing up 100% CPU time. System response time was like stirring treacle.
Any suggesions/pointers gratefully accepted.
Thanks,
I have a 8600M in my Vostro 1700 and have exactly the same problem. I havent tried reverting back to previous NVIDIA drivers, but I did try XGL and that works great - falling back to just Xorg+NVIDIA and compiz starts crawling (well actually X starting eating 100% CPU). I really want to get this working without XGL, so I can still use other OpenGL apps. Strange thing is my desktop with a 6600 NVIDIA runs fine, same compiz, X and NVIDIA driver? Maybe just issue with specific cards? What specifically did you move around in the xorg.conf file? Manne -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:12:16 Manne Merak wrote:
Rodney Baker wrote:
Hi all.
I run an NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 video card (256MB video RAM) on an Athlon XP 2600 NForce2 based motherboard with 1GB RAM.
I was running the NVIDIA binary drivers version 100.14.19 and all was going smoothly. After upgrading to version 169.12, things started to go awry with compiz and xorg between them constantly chewing up 100% CPU time. System response time was like stirring treacle.
Any suggesions/pointers gratefully accepted.
Thanks,
I have a 8600M in my Vostro 1700 and have exactly the same problem. I havent tried reverting back to previous NVIDIA drivers, but I did try XGL and that works great - falling back to just Xorg+NVIDIA and compiz starts crawling (well actually X starting eating 100% CPU). I really want to get this working without XGL, so I can still use other OpenGL apps. Strange thing is my desktop with a 6600 NVIDIA runs fine, same compiz, X and NVIDIA driver? Maybe just issue with specific cards? What specifically did you move around in the xorg.conf file?
Manne
The main change that seemed to do the trick (before the problem reoccurred after applying the upgrades via YaST/openSuSE Updater) was moving the Render Accel option from the Screen section to the Device Section. I'm still not sure why this made a difference or why the problem then recurred without making further changes. Nvidia-xconfig later put the Render Accel option back into the Screen section but the location does not appear to matter when using the 100.14.19 drivers. Rodney. -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== Issawi's Laws of Progress: The Course of Progress: Most things get steadily worse. The Path of Progress: A shortcut is the longest distance between two points.
Rodney Baker wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:12:16 Manne Merak wrote:
Rodney Baker wrote:
Hi all.
I run an NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 video card (256MB video RAM) on an Athlon XP 2600 NForce2 based motherboard with 1GB RAM.
I was running the NVIDIA binary drivers version 100.14.19 and all was going smoothly. After upgrading to version 169.12, things started to go awry with compiz and xorg between them constantly chewing up 100% CPU time. System response time was like stirring treacle.
Any suggesions/pointers gratefully accepted.
Thanks,
I have a 8600M in my Vostro 1700 and have exactly the same problem. I havent tried reverting back to previous NVIDIA drivers, but I did try XGL and that works great - falling back to just Xorg+NVIDIA and compiz starts crawling (well actually X starting eating 100% CPU). I really want to get this working without XGL, so I can still use other OpenGL apps. Strange thing is my desktop with a 6600 NVIDIA runs fine, same compiz, X and NVIDIA driver? Maybe just issue with specific cards? What specifically did you move around in the xorg.conf file?
Manne
The main change that seemed to do the trick (before the problem reoccurred after applying the upgrades via YaST/openSuSE Updater) was moving the Render Accel option from the Screen section to the Device Section. I'm still not sure why this made a difference or why the problem then recurred without making further changes. Nvidia-xconfig later put the Render Accel option back into the Screen section but the location does not appear to matter when using the 100.14.19 drivers.
Rodney.
Wow, that really made a huge difference (moving RenderAccel) - I will leave compiz on for a while and see how it goes. Still not as fast as using XGL but definitely more usable. Now to find out why? Thanks again Manne -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rodney Baker wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:12:16 Manne Merak wrote:
Rodney Baker wrote:
Hi all.
I run an NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 video card (256MB video RAM) on an Athlon XP 2600 NForce2 based motherboard with 1GB RAM.
I was running the NVIDIA binary drivers version 100.14.19 and all was going smoothly. After upgrading to version 169.12, things started to go awry with compiz and xorg between them constantly chewing up 100% CPU time. System response time was like stirring treacle.
Any suggesions/pointers gratefully accepted.
Thanks,
I have a 8600M in my Vostro 1700 and have exactly the same problem. I havent tried reverting back to previous NVIDIA drivers, but I did try XGL and that works great - falling back to just Xorg+NVIDIA and compiz starts crawling (well actually X starting eating 100% CPU). I really want to get this working without XGL, so I can still use other OpenGL apps. Strange thing is my desktop with a 6600 NVIDIA runs fine, same compiz, X and NVIDIA driver? Maybe just issue with specific cards? What specifically did you move around in the xorg.conf file?
Manne
The main change that seemed to do the trick (before the problem reoccurred after applying the upgrades via YaST/openSuSE Updater) was moving the Render Accel option from the Screen section to the Device Section. I'm still not sure why this made a difference or why the problem then recurred without making further changes. Nvidia-xconfig later put the Render Accel option back into the Screen section but the location does not appear to matter when using the 100.14.19 drivers.
Rodney.
Well, I spoke to soon - X still goes to 100% CPU (randomly)? It seems I have one other lead - when using Emerald the 100%CPU problem disappears? So it must be something to do with kde-windows-decorator? I still get some "stutter" every now and them, but that is because of the 8600M power management (I already found a workaround for that) Manne ps. It still puzzles me that the desktop with a 6600 performs better (with kde-windows-decorator) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
As allready discussed in a previous thread. I have the same hardware
and no 100% cpu issues. But I only us the emerald decorator!
Alexander
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Manne Merak
Rodney Baker wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:12:16 Manne Merak wrote:
Rodney Baker wrote:
Hi all.
I run an NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 video card (256MB video RAM) on an Athlon XP 2600 NForce2 based motherboard with 1GB RAM.
I was running the NVIDIA binary drivers version 100.14.19 and all was going smoothly. After upgrading to version 169.12, things started to go awry with compiz and xorg between them constantly chewing up 100% CPU time. System response time was like stirring treacle.
Any suggesions/pointers gratefully accepted.
Thanks,
I have a 8600M in my Vostro 1700 and have exactly the same problem. I havent tried reverting back to previous NVIDIA drivers, but I did try XGL and that works great - falling back to just Xorg+NVIDIA and compiz starts crawling (well actually X starting eating 100% CPU). I really want to get this working without XGL, so I can still use other OpenGL apps. Strange thing is my desktop with a 6600 NVIDIA runs fine, same compiz, X and NVIDIA driver? Maybe just issue with specific cards? What specifically did you move around in the xorg.conf file?
Manne
The main change that seemed to do the trick (before the problem reoccurred after applying the upgrades via YaST/openSuSE Updater) was moving the Render Accel option from the Screen section to the Device Section. I'm still not sure why this made a difference or why the problem then recurred without making further changes. Nvidia-xconfig later put the Render Accel option back into the Screen section but the location does not appear to matter when using the 100.14.19 drivers.
Rodney.
Well, I spoke to soon - X still goes to 100% CPU (randomly)? It seems I have one other lead - when using Emerald the 100%CPU problem disappears? So it must be something to do with kde-windows-decorator? I still get some "stutter" every now and them, but that is because of the 8600M power management (I already found a workaround for that)
Manne ps. It still puzzles me that the desktop with a 6600 performs better (with kde-windows-decorator)
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Alexander Egger wrote:
As allready discussed in a previous thread. I have the same hardware and no 100% cpu issues. But I only us the emerald decorator!
Alexander
Well, I spoke to soon - X still goes to 100% CPU (randomly)? It seems I have one other lead - when using Emerald the 100%CPU problem disappears? So it must be something to do with kde-windows-decorator? I still get some "stutter" every now and them, but that is because of the 8600M power management (I already found a workaround for that)
Manne ps. It still puzzles me that the desktop with a 6600 performs better (with kde-windows-decorator)
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Ok, great, sorry I missed the part of you only using Emerald - this seems to solve my problem. Now to try and find a decent theme - and start debugging kde-window-decorator? Manne ps. still bugs me that the desktop with a 6600 works fine with kde-window-decorator. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 22:51 +0200, Alexander Egger wrote:
As allready discussed in a previous thread. I have the same hardware and no 100% cpu issues. But I only us the emerald decorator!
Alexander
For me it is the opposite - Emerald makes the situation worse,not
better. Using compiz with kde-decorator is better but I still see compiz
and/or xorg chewing up 100% cpu with any NVIDIA driver later than
100.14.19.
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Rodney Baker
Rodney Baker wrote:
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 22:51 +0200, Alexander Egger wrote:
As allready discussed in a previous thread. I have the same hardware and no 100% cpu issues. But I only us the emerald decorator!
Alexander
For me it is the opposite - Emerald makes the situation worse,not better. Using compiz with kde-decorator is better but I still see compiz and/or xorg chewing up 100% cpu with any NVIDIA driver later than 100.14.19.
Rodney, Manne, Don't feel all alone. I have an older Toshiba laptop and the mobility radeon w/KDE, Compiz, Emerald works just fine. ATI driver gives about 2700 FPS. I have a *new* Toshiba laptop with a radeon Xpress 1200 (same exact setup, both 17" screens) the new card struggles to push 900 FPS. The witchcraft in closed source drivers treats both sides (ati/nvidia) equally bad at times. So cheer up, you're not alone... -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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