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[opensuse] Bug report
by CETIN OVALI 11 May '07

11 May '07

Hello, After I install Suse 10.2 I faced with a very strange problem and I searched it internet and I found that also there are some people like me faced with the same problem. In our company we use squid on Suse. we wanted to upgrade our OS version. After we increase the version to 10.2 our customers told me that they can not reach the site http://tcmbf40.tcmb.gov.tr/cbt.html . I could not find any reason why we can not connect this site. I installed the suse 10.3 alpha3 but the same problem occured again. I test it with a version 9.3 and 10.1 I saw that it works that is we can connect the site http://tcmbf40.tcmb.gov.tr/cbt.html . I really didnot understand why it happens. I did lots of think. I used the working squid version on suse 10.1 and 9.3 in new installed 10.2 suse version but nothing changed. I stopped all the unneeded services but nothing changed again. because I test this with version Suse 10.2 and 10.3 and saw that I cannot connect the site that I have to, It means that it will be the same on the new upper versions. and I believe that this site is not the one that cannot be connected. Also I do not know where can I report thsi bug and who can help me With Best Regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: cron problems
by Joachim Schrod 11 May '07

11 May '07

G T Smith wrote: > > I double checked the man pages. I remember at one time there was a > difference between the syntax for various types of crontab files, but > this seems to have changed and this no longer seem to be the case if the > 5 crontab man page is to be believed. This is on 10.0; but I doubt that it is different on later SUSEs. (Sorry for the line breaks, Seamonkey is too dumb here.) In the cron man page, 2nd paragraph: Cron also searches for /etc/crontab and the files in the /etc/cron.d direc- tory, which are in a different format (see crontab(5)). I.e., there _are_ different formats. In the crontab man page, roughly on line 50: The format of a cron command is very much the V7 standard, with a num- ber of upward-compatible extensions. Each line has five time and date fields, followed by a user name if this is the system crontab file, followed by a command. This spells out the different crontab syntax: the additional user name as sixth column in system crontab files. There is an irritation that the man page continues to talk about the 6th command column later on; where it is really the 6th or 7th, depending on the type of crontab, as cited above. > /etc/cron.d seems to be rarely > used by anything in SuSE , and seems to be a bit of an anomaly as its > effective role is covered by /etc/crontab and the /etc/cron.<time> > directories. I presume it is still there for standards related reasons. No, sorry, not at all. /etc/cron.d/ is *very* valuable. It is needed if one (a) wants to be able to install and de-install a cron file without changing /etc/crontab, e.g., by a package, (b) wants to have precise control when the cron job runs, and/or (c) needs other intervals or other times than the one supplied by /etc/cron.<time>. In fact, Mohamed supplied a perfectly valid example here: He wants to execute a cron job every quarter of an hour and another one every minute. Both are not possible to do with /etc/cron.<time>. I'm quite sure that his problems have nothing to do with his crontab format. If his cron service is activated and works for other jobs, it's probably related to wrong access rights (executable, group-writable), or the command itself needs environment variables from /etc/profile that are not availabe in cron's environment, or other typical cron problems. > There also seems to a lack of clarity in the documentation about the > default shell used, one part suggests that cron automatically selects > /bin/sh but another that it is obtained from the user account > settings... Yes, the comment in the example section is misleading. (Interestingly, the crontab(5) man page in Debian has a better example here.) > if the former is the case then the SHELL=/bin/sh statement > in /etc/crontab is redundant unless this is what the statement means Yes, it is. > (the question then is do the entries in cron.d inherit the /etc/crontab > settings?). No, each crontab file needs the settings anew. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] rsync errors
by James D. Parra 11 May '07

11 May '07

Hello, I am getting 'skipping non-regular file' errors when running rsync. Any ideas on why and how to fix them? Using rsync -rpvougt ..... skipping non-regular file "rd/programs/unixODBC-2.2.11/samples/helper.o" skipping non-regular file "rd/programs/unixODBC-2.2.11/sqp/.libs/libsqplc.la" skipping non-regular file "rd/programs/wxwidgets/wxBase-2.6.2/lib/libwx_baseu-2.6.so" skipping non-regular file "rd/programs/wxwidgets/wxBase-2.6.2/lib/libwx_baseu-2.6.so.0" Thank you, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: cron problems
by Joachim Schrod 11 May '07

11 May '07

Darryl Gregorash wrote: > On 2007-05-09 18:36, Joachim Schrod wrote: >> <snip> >> No, sorry, not at all. /etc/cron.d/ is *very* valuable. >> >> It is needed if one >> (a) wants to be able to install and de-install a cron file without >> changing /etc/crontab, e.g., by a package, > In 9.3, non-root users don't have write permission in /etc/cron.d, so > only packages installed by root could create a cron file there. All packages are installed by root, that's no question. But there are more packages in the world than SUSE packages. Some folks, in particular, especially in large IT environments, package their own local software; to be able to install it controlled and automatically on a large number of systems. >>> (the question then is do the entries in cron.d inherit the /etc/crontab >>> settings?). >> >> No, each crontab file needs the settings anew. > The only advantage I can see to using /etc/cron.d at all (which of > course on some installations might be a tremendous advantage) is that > you can have a separate environment, eg. different MAILTO, for each of > the files. You discarded the other two reasons that I give. This gives the impression that you don't find them essential. So, please tell me: How do you create a cron job that is executed every 15 minutes and that shall be installed by an rpm package, without /etc/cron.d/? You can also tell me if you don't see the need for this requirement. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: mail headers
by Joachim Schrod 11 May '07

11 May '07

Masaru Nomiya wrote: > > Don't you know? > Your MUA changed Message-ID in the Reference field, too! > > Like this; > > Original Message-ID is Pine.LNX.4.64.0704231349090.20538(a)nimrodel.valinor > > In your mail; > > References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0704231349090.20538__35465.4897739694$1177329669$gmane$org(a)nimrodel.valinor> > [...] > In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0704231349090.20538__35465.4897739694$1177329669$gmane$org(a)nimrodel.valinor> > > Is this reasonable with respect to RFC? No, I didn't know; and I stand corrected. Nevertheless, I don't know how to change it since the articles that I'm replying to have those message ids, after all. (Well, besides reading the mailing list and/or changing my MUA; but both is so inconvenient that I would rather stop posting recommendations and answers.) I'm sorry, but I can't help it. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] UniTTY: A better way to SSH. And SFTP. And VNC!
by Randall R Schulz 11 May '07

11 May '07

Hi, <http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3214/>: "UniTTY "Like all Linux users, you probably have certain tools you rely on to get your job done. For example, if you’re a system administrator, a web developer, or a hacker, a good SSH client is a must. Add to that a nice, graphical SFTP client and a VNC client and you can do almost anything. What about a secure VNC client — VNC tunneled through SSH? The latter would be great, but it’s a pain to set up, right? ..." This was included in the weekly headlines email from Linux Magazine, and given recent interest in this class of software, it seemed worthwhile to pass it on. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Loading web pages in Kubuntu is much faster than in openSUSE
by Krupanský Rastislav 11 May '07

11 May '07

Hello I´ve installed new Kubuntu 7.04 and I´m surprised.Loading of web pages (i use opera and konqueror) is much faster than in openSUSE. Even in openSUSE i turned off IPV6 and for konqueror via the YaST2 /etc/sysconfig editor module -> Desktop -> KDE_USE_IPV6 from ‘yes’ i changed to ‘no’ or edit the file /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager directly and changed the line KDE_USE_IPV6=”yes” to KDE_USE_IPV6=”no” For kubuntu is tip for konqueror also,but i didn´t it.So in Kubuntu is IPV6 turned on.It was the same in K/Ubuntu 6.10 also. So i don´t understand how is that possible?Have you tried it? Thanks Ragards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: mail headers (was: Postfix + Cyrus IMAP + MySQL won't work :-()
by Joachim Schrod 11 May '07

11 May '07

Masaru Nomiya wrote: > Hello, Joachim > > I'm sorry, but I don't refer on the topic at the moment. > > Joachim, why do you always change the Message-Id in the In-Reply-To field > in your reply mail. > This breaks the thread! Hmm, the thread is signified by the References header, not by the In-Reply-To header. See RFC 2822, section 3.6.4. My In-Reply-To header is different because I don't follow the mailing list directly, but use the news gateway at nntp://news.gmane.org/. The posting that I reply to has the changed message header which gets copied to In-Reply-To. The thread's message ids itself are correctly listed in the References header. Well, at least Pine, Thunderbird, Seamonkey, GNUS, Emacs VM, handle it as intended. That said, if I had an opportunity to take the original message id for the In-Reply-To header automatically, I would certainly configure it. But I don't know of any. And for high-volume mailing-lists such as opensuse, News User Agents are a better choice than to place them in my incoming mailbox. Using the gmane news gateway also corrects the dreadful reply-doesnt-go-the-list configuration that the opensuse list maintainers have chosen. I hope this explains the situation, though it won't change it. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] How to configure the text displayed in the StarWars screen saver?
by Ken Jennings 11 May '07

11 May '07

I recall in a previous version of Suse I could control the text to display in the StarWars screen saver. (I have a file with the intros to all six movies.) Can't seem to figure out how to do it now. The screen saver config for KDE doesn't appear to have any visible means of specifying a file or pasting text. It is kinda boring looking at the hostname, OS version and uptime. I searched several ways on Google and the KDE web sites and I can't find anything about this. I have openSuse 10.2 installed from DVD. I'm trying to configure the Starwars screen saver using the KDE desktop config/KXSConfig. Thanks, Ken. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Postfix + Cyrus IMAP + MySQL won't work :-(
by Joachim Schrod 11 May '07

11 May '07

Sandy Drobic wrote: > > If someone is starting fresh it might be worth a thought to think about > alternatives like Courier Imap. A friend of mine, who does a lot more with imapd than I do, also recomended UW imapd http://www.washington.edu/imap/ He said that Courier has issues with IMAP protocol conformance; though I don't remember which ones. He gave me the following link with a server comparison: http://www.melnikov.ca/mel/devel/ServerReference.html Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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