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[opensuse] X without any manager?
by Klaus Vink Slott 24 Nov '07

24 Nov '07

Hi I playing around with this game Eve (a windows thing packaged with cedega) which takes over the whole screen when started. I cant find any way to minimize the game when running - there seems to be no access my KDE desktop whithout exiting the game. I can do a second login using KDE "Change user" and start the game from here and then I am able switch between the game and my first desktop with ctrl+alt+F7 ctrl+alt+F8 . So I am searching for a easy way to start a single program (the game) on a secondary screen whitout the overhead of running another display manager. If I run # X :1& export DISPLAY=:1; xterm & as root - I can get new X with a single terminal. I can start programs from here and might even be able to launch the game this way to. But this only as root - if I change user I cant start any X applications. Launching 1.5G bytes of gamecode as root does not feel right - so is there an easy way to change user before or after starting X - and still be able to launch the game? Or am I going in the wrong direction. Any suggestions? -- Regards Klaus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Broken Novell Bugzilla
by Carlos E. R. 24 Nov '07

24 Nov '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, When ever I add an attachment to a bugzilla, it is instantly deleted to the server. I can not complete my bug reports that in "needinfo" state. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHSEQStTMYHG2NR9URAqGRAJwItinhhg7f8tLbP2h4o4bSOHTjLgCeL6Wy Yw8YRqICetBnDP8VtKeXUf8= =+vZY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Problems after an update.
by Erik Jakobsen 24 Nov '07

24 Nov '07

Erik Jakobsen wrote: Hi... I did the !failsafe from #suse, and the result is here: ARCH=`rpm -q --queryformat %{arch} aaa_base`;rpm -e boost-doc;rpm -e boost-devel;rpm -e boost;rpm -Uhv http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/$ARCH/libzypp-… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/$ARCH/zypper-0… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/$ARCH/boost-1.… error: package boost-doc is not installed error: package boost-devel is not installed error: Failed dependencies: libboost_filesystem.so.1.33.1 is needed by (installed) libzypp-3.26.3-1.1.i586 libboost_regex.so.1.33.1 is needed by (installed) zypper-0.8.25-0.1.i586 Retrieving http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/i586/libzypp-3… Retrieving http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/i586/zypper-0.… Retrieving http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/i586/boost-1.3… Preparing... ########################################### [100%] package boost-1.33.1-108 is already installed package libzypp-3.26.3-1.1 (which is newer than libzypp-3.26.2-2) is already installed package zypper-0.8.25-0.1 (which is newer than zypper-0.8.23-7) is already installed What does this tell ? /Erik ARCH=`rpm -q --queryformat %{arch} aaa_base`;rpm -e boost-doc;rpm -e boost-devel;rpm -e boost;rpm -Uhv http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/$ARCH/libzypp-… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/$ARCH/zypper-0… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/$ARCH/boost-1.… error: package boost-doc is not installed error: package boost-devel is not installed error: Failed dependencies: libboost_filesystem.so.1.33.1 is needed by (installed) libzypp-3.26.3-1.1.i586 libboost_regex.so.1.33.1 is needed by (installed) zypper-0.8.25-0.1.i586 Retrieving http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/i586/libzypp-3… Retrieving http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/i586/zypper-0.… Retrieving http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/i586/boost-1.3… Preparing... ########################################### [100%] package boost-1.33.1-108 is already installed package libzypp-3.26.3-1.1 (which is newer than libzypp-3.26.2-2) is already installed package zypper-0.8.25-0.1 (which is newer than zypper-0.8.23-7) is already installed

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Re: [opensuse] Problems after an update.
by Erik Jakobsen 24 Nov '07

24 Nov '07

ne... wrote: > > It tells me that boost-doc & boost-devel were never installed. It also > tells me that boost was not removed due to dependencies. As a result > nothing was installed. It seems to me that you are being asked to > downgrade some rpms. What I would do in your case is download the > needed rpms if I do not already have them. Then for every rpm I am > going to install rpm -e --nodeps the installed version. Then install > the downloaded rpms. You can string the rpm -e command on one line > like so: > > rpm -e --nodeps boost boost-doc boost-devel > > This makes it much more readable for us. > HTH > > ne... > Many thanks to the reply. How do I know which rpm's I need ? /Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[Fwd: Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?]
by LLLActive＠GMX.Net 24 Nov '07

24 Nov '07

On Thursday 22 November 2007, Lenz Grimmer wrote: >> Does anybody have a recommendation for a flatbed scanner, connected via >> USB2 that works flawlessly with Linux (openSUSE 10.3 in particular) and >> is still on sale (especially in Europe/Germany)? On 22/11/07 21:06, johnlayt(a)yahoo.com.au wrote: > Almost anything from HP will be supported, except their very cheapest models > which cut a few corners. They're the gold standard for manufacturer based > printer & scanner support under linux. > Epson reportedly also has fairly good support. John, My experience has been bad with HP scanners under Linux actually. I've had HP scanners for many years. Under the Xsane.org project, most were badly supported, or not at all. I changed to Epson scanners about 2 years ago, and all worked very wall so far with the avasys.jp drivers. Now OpenSUSE also has them as native according to Johannes Meixner form SUSE in Germany. HP printers also kind of worked for lasers, but their ink was expensive. I now have an Epson ColourLaser C1100, which works perfectly; and it is cheaper to buy and the toner is cheaper and lasts much longer than HP's. HP software has caused me a lot of problems for some printers, most scanners and especially the all-in-one products that had to be installed incessantly for USB devices, all under windows 2000 and XP. Support for most scanners and all-in-one products were practically non-existent for Linux until recently. Now an all-in-one package exists for Linux, but I don't know how good it is. I have learnt to stay clear from HP, due to bad windows software, very bad Linux support and prices for consumables after getting the printers almost given away to lock you in for their comparatively very expensive inks and toner. :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Problems after an update.
by Erik Jakobsen 24 Nov '07

24 Nov '07

Erik Jakobsen wrote: > > > Are there ways to get the network up running again without having Yast ?. > > Hi. Using ifconfig, I got the network up running again. I did install Yast2 with zypper. But there's some icons lacking if I open Yast 2 What can I do to have them all installed again ?. I have dumps at: http://www.urbakken.dk/lackofoptions.jpg and http://www.urbakken.dk/networkcard.jpg /Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center
by Aaron Kulkis 24 Nov '07

24 Nov '07

Kevin Dupuy wrote: > On Nov 23, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Aaron Kulkis wrote: > >> Thomas Goettlicher wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking >>> for a radical new design. >> >> Why? >> >> The current design is perfectly good, and as close to flawless >> as it can be for what it is supposed to do. > > Yes, because when you break it down, YaST Control Center is a container > for opening the YaST modules. A bunch of icons that lead to the modules > is perfect! The issue is not "YaST is fundamentally broken", the issue > is new users, which, mind you, is what SUSE would like to get, may not > understand which module they need for a specific task. The purpose is to > make YaST clearer in where to go to do specific tasks. >> >>> This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center. >> >> Keep it how it is! >> It works. > > Refer to comment above. >> >> Why waste time on unnecessary development (which will then >> have bugs), when the SuSE team *COULD* be using that same >> time, energy, and attention working on things that are >> currently broken. > > That's why there is more than one developer at SUSE ;). > >> If you were a shop keeper, and there was a leak in your roof, >> or maybe a pipe, would you waste time replacing the plate >> glass in the display window? >> > > Refer to comment above. >> I've never seen anyone in the user base is complaining >> ON ANY FORUM about YAST as it currently exists. >> >> The "Problems" on the wiki page below are nothing >> more than issues of cosmetics (appearance) and organization >> of the YAST "functionality tree"..neither of which should >> require a major overhaul of YAST, only a few minor tweaks. > > Probably because the new users to openSUSE would not subscribe to a > mailing list. I have a magazine from 2005 complaining about SUSE 9.3's > "Bloated YaST underbelly (Linux Format, SUSE 9.3 Review)", and I do hear > people compaining about SUSE's confusing YaST control center. YaST is no more difficult to use than any other System-level GUI admin tool that I've ever used...and MUCH simpler than the equivalent Microsoft tool. The people who complain that YaST is too confusing are probably confused by every other sys-admin tool out there. I seriously cannot believe that there are people out there who are both confused by YaST **AND** totally proficient at system administration tasks on ANY other distro, or even ANY other operating system. >> >>> Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas >>> here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center >> >> All the mockups there have LESS functionality than >> the current YAST system. There's no way that your >> new control center is going to have just as much >> functionality as the current yast without requiring >> the window to be larger than the desktop, or to >> resort to minimizing the size of icons and labels, >> such as in the 3rd and 4th illustrations. YUCK! > > What functionality does YaST, QT or GTK, have right now over choosing a > category, icon, and search? What would we loose? >> >>> Thanks, >>> Thomas >>> --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Problems after an update.
by Erik Jakobsen 24 Nov '07

24 Nov '07

Carlos E. R. wrote: > > Shame on you! :-P > > http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-11/msg01845.html > Embarrassed I am :-[ But in a way I'm trapped, as my network is not working too, and as such I cannot get downloaded what is necessary from the repos.. Are there ways to get the network up running again without having Yast ?. Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 Screen resolution problem.
by Yin T 24 Nov '07

24 Nov '07

Additional info... I selected "Control Panel"->"Graphics card and monitor". When verifying the "Card and Monitor Properties" Under Display 1 Tab... Card=ATI Radeon X300/X550/X1050 Series(RV370 5B60) Monitor=VESA 1024x768@60Hz Properties Resolution=1024x768(XGA) Colors=16.7 Mio[24bit] Dual Head Mode Activate Dual Head Mode=unchecked Activate 3D Acceleration=checked When I clicked on Control Panel->"Screen Resolution", I found that the resolution was 800x600 and the option to select 1024x768 disappeared. Yin T wrote: > > I have been running OpenSuse 10.3 for about 2 months now and had no > problems until a few days ago. > Sometimes when I boot up the system (cold or warm boot), the screen > resolution is not correct any more. > > I have my system set at 1024x768. After I log in and go to Gnome desktop, > the resolution seems like it is 800x600. > > I tried using the "Control Panel" to reconfigure it back to 1024x768 and > sometimes it seems to do the trick sometimes when I reboot again, the same > problem happens again. > > Could it be something that was installed when I chose to update the system > with the latest patches. > > If you need any more info to help out, please let me know. > > Thanks > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/OpenSuse-10.3-Screen-resolution-problem.-tf4864613.ht… Sent from the openSUSE community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?
by Teruel de Campo MD 24 Nov '07

24 Nov '07

On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 17:53 -0500, Fred A. Miller wrote: > Teruel de Campo MD wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 20:06 +0000, John Layt wrote: > >> On Thursday 22 November 2007, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > >>> Does anybody have a recommendation for a flatbed scanner, connected via > >>> USB2 that works flawlessly with Linux (openSUSE 10.3 in particular) and > >>> is still on sale (especially in Europe/Germany)? > >> Almost anything from HP will be supported, except their very cheapest models > >> which cut a few corners. They're the gold standard for manufacturer based > >> printer & scanner support under linux. > >> > >> Epson reportedly also has fairly good support. > >> > >> John. > > > > John, > > > > This is not my experience few month ago. Things might have changed. When > > I looked into HP scanners you could run most of the all in one devices > > (fax, printer, scanner) but there was not support for any of the high > > end single purpose scanner. That's why I end up getting the Epson 4990 > > photo. > > > > http://hp-linux.cern.ch/support/devscanner.php3 > > Terry, I have the 4490 Photo which is an EXCELLENT scanner, but Iscan > limits me to only a max. of 2400DPI, when the printer is capable of > 4800x9600. Are you limited in the 4990 Photo as well, and will it scan > negatives properly with conversion? > Fred, 1. Yes with vuescan I can go to 4800 and that should be the same with yours. Ain't fast :) Vuescan is also very nice to scan slides and negatives and support the use of the slide trays. It is a well polished product. I bough the license. 2. I choose the 4990 because I can run sane without proprietary drivers under opensuse 10.3 64b. Initially using suse 10.2 I tried the proprietary drivers and I think I have to install also some 32b libraries and work well. I did not see any advantages but I did not test high resolutions because I do not use them. 3. The sane backend has bug that prevents you from going to high resolution. Although I can see in both xsane and kooka resolutions up to 3200 it does not work. I can get 1400 or a little more and then complains that "can not start scanner out of memory" which of course is not true (I have 2GB and plenty of space) I saw this thread: https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=303493&group_id… So if you can go to 2400 using the epson drivers you are doing better than me using sane. 4. I also installed the win software that came with the scanner under VMware and works very well although I do not use it since I discover vuescan. My interest were scan slides and many at the time. Regards, -=terry=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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