August 2006 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] Sources, revisited
by BandiPat 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

Ok Novell/SuSE, Let's get it together! I'll not rehash the discussion of the sources in the boxed edition of SuSE or the minor mention of said sources. That discussion has concluded with the hope of better and more visible indications that sources are available? I do want to mention though the incredible lack of mention it receives on the opensuse sites. I came to this conclusion while looking for the source file to the libgimpprint file. Which I might add, still have not found. The only thing I found on the opensuse site after much searching was one hotlink on one of the pages! It could be easily overlooked, since it was clumped in with so many other items. Does Novell not want us to know about the source files? Why the seemingly secrecy and general lack of info about the sources? Why are some source files missing? Aren't all the sources for all the files included on the DVD boxed set suppose to be available? I guess it's possible the file I'm searching for is grouped within another source file, I don't know, I haven't dug that deeply yet, but the fact remains, sources are difficult to find and even more difficult to learn they are available! A lot of changes with Novell's purchase, some have me worried. Lee Here are the sites I visited: http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org (how many places are sources mentioned here?) http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/downloads/ (see any mention here?) http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/suse/src/ ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/suse/src/

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how to workaround the great firewall of China
by Zhang Weiwu 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

In order to access the sites blocked in China I have an account in sdf.lonestar.org which provide free shell account access (no root account of courese) that can be used to browse the web. This is what I do: ssh yuliansu@esmeralda:~> ssh weiwu(a)sdf.lonestar.org Last login: Fri Aug 4 04:00:29 2006 from pc216.broad.dyn ARPA Member Vote - Polls close 31-AUG-06 23:59:59 UTC - Type 'vote' to vote. you have 1 pending notification type 'notify -r' to retrieve it > lynx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_(film) I have been using this method for years. lynx is a text based browser, I cannot 1. click to open a page, which is almost a killer feature for pages with 100 links (e.g. 99 links are navigation menu links, you need to press arraw-down 50 times to go to the correct link) 2. view the pictures I have always been thinking is there are good way to let my firefox use this ssh connection to display webpages. I think it's not possible... <dream> but there is still a small chance, I can run curl on the remote shell account, perhaps firefox can make use if that... </dream> Other people may suggest using a proxy server, which doesn't work for me because the great firewall of China is keyword text-based, it filters the content of webpage rather then only IP address or domain name, unless I am using SSL protected 'proxy', the pages had been in-accessible are still not accessbile with a proxy server. But so far I don't know how to find proxy servers that have SSL enabled. (or, can proxy server SSL enabled at all?) And I'd very much like to share experience (both how succeeded or faield) working around the great firewall of China. However if you are in China you will not see this email from mail archive websites, because it must be filtered. P.S. perhaps it is a good idea to start a project to set up a special software in Linux to let Linux transparnetly workaround the great firewall of China. This could be a very good idea because if we take a general solution that work for both Linux and Windows, Windows users may start to use it and gain attention from authorities (thanks to huge number of Windows users) and finally get this solution shut down by some means. However if this solution only (or mainly) work for Linux, thanks to the small number of Linux users, this solution can keep several years without getting forced down. This encourage people to use Linux too.

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[opensuse] Mailing list / IRC channel layout
by Sonja Krause-Harder 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Hi, now that the rename of "SUSE Linux" into "openSUSE" is taking place with the release of alpha 3 I think it is time to also adjust our mailing list layout. I would like to propose the following changes: 1. Generic user support + catch-all list opensuse(a)opensuse.org (changed list description) The last year has shown that opensuse(a)opensuse.org is the first list users subscribe to if they have questions about the distribution, or are looking for user-level support. The original idea was that these questions would be handled by the established suse-linux lists. This did not work well for several reasons and led to many high-volume discussions about the list itself and the naming scheme. I assume we're all tired of these discussions. I think we can use the natural tendency of new users to subscribe to this list by making it exactly the list new users need: - user questions and support of all levels - generic questions about the distribution and the project - discussions about specific topics for which other lists exist can still _politely_ be sent there (e.g. -wiki, -buildservice) 2. Project / community related discussion opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org (new) This list would be for people who want to take a more active role in the openSUSE project as a whole. Possible topics for this list could include, but wouldn't be restricted to: - organisation of Linux events where openSUSE as a project is present (FOSDEM 2007, LinuxTag 2007...) - new subprojects - requests for new mailing lists (as a result of a successful subproject start ;-)) - activities to promote openSUSE and/or attract more developers (e.g. Google Summer of Code) 3. Discussion of various other topics as needed opensuse-buildservice(a)opensuse.org (unchanged) opensuse-wiki(a)opensuse.org (unchanged) opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org (unchanged) opensuse-packaging(a)opensuse.org (unchanged) opensuse-doc(a)opensuse.org (unchanged) opensuse-translation(a)opensuse.org (unchanged) opensuse-optimize(a)opensuse.org (unchanged) opensuse-ipf(a)opensuse.org (unchanged) These are mostly self-explanatory and will not be changed in any way. There is a slight overlap between opensuse and opensuse-factory if people use the development snapshots of the distribution, but this hasn't been a problem so far. 4. Read-only lists opensuse-announce(a)opensuse.org (unchanged) Low volume, for those who just want the news, not the chatter. opensuse-commit(a)opensuse.org (unchanged) High-volume, shows the changelog of every package submitted to factory 5. Foreign language lists opensuse-fr(a)opensuse.org (unchanged) opensuse-hu(a)opensuse.org (unchanged) opensuse-it(a)opensuse.org (unchanged) If a group of speakers of any given language want opensuse mailing lists in that language, we will always start with opensuse-<languagecode>@opensuse.org, and this will be a catch-all list for all topics mentioned in section 1. to 3. If this list gets enough traffic to justify a split into several lists, they will follow the layout in section 2. and 3. but add a language code. Examples would be: opensuse-project-de(a)opensuse.org (non-existent example) opensuse-wiki-fr(a)opensuse.org (non-existant-example) 6. Existing SUSE Linux lists With the renaming of the distribution, the mailing list names used on lists.suse.com will eventually be outdated. We consider merging some of these lists with their openSUSE counterparts. Obvious candidates are e.g.: suse-linux(a)suse.com -> opensuse-de(a)opensuse.org suse-linux-e(a)suse.com -> opensuse(a)opensuse.org As the suse linux lists are long-existing, active communities, this step will not happen without a discussion on the affected lists. 7. IRC channels IRC channels on freenode should follow the same layout as the mailing lists, if a mailing list for the respective topic exists. Right now the following active channels exist: #opensuse #opensuse-de #opensuse-devel #openSUSE-GNOME #opensuse-project #opensuse-factory #opensuse-buildservice Of these I think #opensuse-devel is unnecessary and should be merged with #opensuse-factory, but I might have overlooked something. Could those active on #opensuse-devel please speak up? ;-) Discuss... cheers, Sonja -- Sonja Krause-Harder (skh(a)suse.de) Research & Development SUSE Linux Products GmbH

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[opensuse] Feedback für 10.2 Alpha3 ?
by Christophe Veber 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

How can I send feedback (error messages) for the Suse 10.2. Alpha3? Is there a Bugzilla repository or an email address? Christophe

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[opensuse] getting glibc 2.3 on suse 10.1
by Rene Salmon 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Hi list, I have some binaries (commercial software) that requires glibc 2.3 to run. Is there any way that I can get a glibc 2.3 version installed on a suse 10.1 box somewhere so that i can point my binaries to it? Thanks Rene -- - -- Rene Salmon Tulane University Center for Computational Science http://www.ccs.tulane.edu rsalmon(a)tulane.edu Tel 504-862-8393 Tel 504-988-8552 Fax 504-862-8392 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] what is differences between SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 and Open SUSE Linux
by atp 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

hi. i use open suse10 now. i want to download SLED. please tell me that waht is differences between SUSE Linux Enterprise and OPEN SUSE 10. and tell me that is SLED free or i have to pay for use? -- ATP

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splitted dhcp package
by Enrico Weigelt 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Hi folks, JFYI: I'm currently working on an splitted dhcp package. The goals are: + builds can be done as minimal as possible (ie. each program for its own) + fully automatized build, also sysroot'ed crosscompile Although it's not an good design at all, I've now chosen automake for the buildfiles, but once it's running, I'll port it to treebuild additionally. If anyone's interested in it, please drop a note. cu -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt == metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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slow fps with fglrx driver
by Michal Hlavac 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Hello, I have HP nx6125 notebook with 1400x1050 display and RADEON XPRESS 200M Series Generic card... I also have suse 10.1 and latest ati 8.27.10 driver... Output from flxinfo is in attachment... 3D support is on, but glxgears has terribly slow results.... It is known bug or something else? hlavki@hlavki:~> glxgears 1303 frames in 5.0 seconds = 260.491 FPS 1333 frames in 5.0 seconds = 266.582 FPS 1304 frames in 5.0 seconds = 260.789 FPS 1307 frames in 5.0 seconds = 261.328 FPS hlavki@hlavki:~> fglrxinfo display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: RADEON XPRESS 200M Series Generic OpenGL version string: 2.0.5946 (8.27.10) Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer 687 frames in 5.0 seconds = 137.400 FPS 789 frames in 5.0 seconds = 157.800 FPS 818 frames in 5.0 seconds = 163.600 FPS 787 frames in 5.0 seconds = 157.400 FPS thanks, m.

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[opensuse] official Buttons & Banners as png?
by Christophe Veber 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Hi, is it possible to have the official Buttons & Banners on http://en.opensuse.org/Buttons_and_Banners as png graphics? Christophe

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after YOU update ... vmware workstation won't start?
by Peter Van Lone 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Must I re-install vmware, or is there some other procedure I have to go through, to make vmware 5.5 workstation work after a YOU update (perhaps after a YOU update updates the kernel)? Or, where can I look to find why it will not load, after an update done last night? Peter

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