August 2005 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

02 Aug '05

Hey gang, Today for the first time I tried to use the runlevel editor in YaST on my 9.3 system, but when it started it got to about 'cron' and then just sat there and did nothing more. Everything below 'cron' remained with the question marks. I even let it sit for an hour and a half and still nothing happened, it just sat there with the little clock next to the cursor. Anyone else had this problem? Any 'fix' anyone knows of? I'm updated with YOU since yesterday by the way. Thanks, JB

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Failed Install On Dell L933r
by James Wright 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

Hello, my brother in law was sick and tired of all the virus' and spyware, and agreed to let me put Linux on his computer. And I was sick and tired of fixing his computer all the time. So I popped the Suse 9.3 CD 1 in and it started the boot-up to install. When it gets to what I think in the initial YAST screen (or maybe it is just the first configuration screen) it is entirely messed up. I get the same with 9.2. It looks like the screen is compressed into a tiny area at the top of the screen, maybe an inch vertical and not quite the full width of the screen long. When I move the mouse I see a diagonal line move up or down, corresponding with the mouse movements. I would imagine that there is a video problem, but don't really know what to do about it. Also, I believe I read something like this in the list before, but did not find it via google, so either it wasn't posted, or I did not search with the correct terms. This is a default box, Dell Dimension L933r, with one exception. I moved his current drive (FAT32, it still has Windows ME, so he can retrieve his old documents and music), to be a slave, and put in a different HDD to install Linux onto. The drive I put in is fine, just not yet formatted, as I figured Suse install would do this. If somebody could help me out, refer me to a previous post, or just point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it. Thank you. James W

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Problems with NFS files not being flushed from cache
by Michael Marion 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Wondered if anyone else has seen this.. haven't seen much on google that matches it. Problems with NFS files not being flushed from cache Detailed Description: We're experiencing a problem across our sles9 (including pre sp1, as well as sp1 and an sp2 host) where the following occurs: 1. A program on a server opens a file in NFS, and keeps that file open, periodically writing output to that file as the program runs. 2. Going on another server, and doing something like tail -f on the file in NFS (or trying to less it, ls it, vi it, etc) will not see the updates after the first update is written out to NFS. 3. The file will finally appear to update on other clients when either the program is exited, or it closes the file, or a sync is run by hand on the server where the application that's writing to the file is running. We have tried playing with the different mount options for nfs (acdirmin/max and acregmin/max) as well as using noac for a short period which seemed to make the problem go away, but noac is not a viable long term solution as it kills performance (some jobs would take up to 10x longer to run with noac turned on). >From what I've read in the NFS HOWTO pages at http://nfs.sourceforce.net it appears to be linked to the new codes regarding the close-to-open cache consistency. It definitely seems to be a bug in the nfs kernel implementation as a job can run for days on end without other NFS clients able to see data, even though the file is updated many, many times on the server where the application is running. Clearly the kernel is getting into some state where the NFS layer isn't doing a proper sync to flush the NFS writes/data out to the NFS server. We can recreate this problem quite easily... -- Mike Marion-Unix SysAdmin/Staff Engineer-http://www.qualcomm.com Homer: "Dad says this new guy is a repulsive, obnoxious old billionaire. So let's be extra nice to him!" ==> Simpsons

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weird named process + asignment of ethx to an network adapter
by Ivan Mojzis 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Hi all, has anyone experienced (and solved) two strange problems described bellow with SuSE Linux 9.2 ? - first - named process doesnt't resolve queries from internal network after clean reboot of machine - machne acts like internet gateway+mailserver, has 1 internal and 1 external interface. named uses configuration with view statement in named.conf to answer in different manner queries from inside and outside. Just logging in as root and issuing rcnamed restart solves the problem but WHY ? - second - SLE9.2 puts after reboot "labels" to eth adapters like eth0 and eth1 but - after some reboots suddenly without reason theese two swap and mark the other adapter like before. In SuSEfirewall this is no problem - i use "eth-id-xx:xx...." but to specify listen adapters for e.g. samba is this behaviour fatal. Where should i setup theese label for ethernet adapter definitely so that it stays unchanged forever ? Thanks. Ivan Mojzis Slovak Repiblic

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sendmail process
by James D. Parra 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Hello, How can I find out what other process is using the sendmail.pid? sendmail-out[25885]: unable to write pid to /var/run/sendmail.pid: file in use by another process Thank you in advance. James

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RE: [SLE] weird named process
by Marlier, Ian 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

> Hi all, > has anyone experienced (and solved) two strange problems described bellow > with SuSE Linux 9.2 ? > - first - named process doesnt't resolve queries from internal network > after clean reboot of machine - machne acts like internet > gateway+mailserver, has 1 internal and 1 external interface. named uses > configuration with view statement in named.conf to answer in different > manner queries from inside and outside. Just logging in as root and > issuing rcnamed restart solves the problem but WHY ? I've had problems with named a couple of times. Both times it turned out that the problem was the chroot jail, and the conf files (/etc/named.conf and /var/lib/named/etc/named.conf) not being identical. It's something to think about, at least. (The first time that it happened, I just copied /etc/named.conf to /var/lib/named/etc/named.conf, and then rebooted the machine. Named came up properly at boot time after that.) Also, is named logging anything to any of these when it tries to start: /var/log/boot.msg /var/log/messages /var/lib/named/log/named.log ? - Ian > Thanks. > > Ivan Mojzis > Slovak Repiblic

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user_xattr and ACLs
by Anders Norrbring 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

How do I go about to reset/delete all user_xattr and ACL settings from volumes? I've redone a system completely, retaining a couple of volumes, and now just about every file and dir carries the wrong info. -- Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting

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firefox
by Mitja 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Hi! SuSE 9.3, KDE 3.4.1, Firefox 1.0.6 I tried to open web page http://www.newsforge.com/articles/05/07/19/1824234.shtml but Mozilla-Firefox crashes all time. Konqueror open page correct. Thanks, Mitja

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RE: Incremental move to SuSE 9.3
by Martin 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Hi experts, I'd like to ask for advice on how to ftp install SuSE 9.3 on my laptop where I currently have SuSE 8.2. What are the necessary steps I should folow? I do have 2 partitions where 2nd one I use just for data but can clean it up. My goal is to have both SuSE 8.2 and SuSE9.3 running so I can move data from SuSE 8.2 partition to SuSE9.3 partition slowly step by step and if anything goes wrong or I need to do something urgent and it does not work on SuSE9.3 yet I can reboot to SuSE8.2 and work till I figure it out. Thx, Martin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [SLE] Proposals for SUSE list managers
by MJang 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 16:19 -0700, Scott Leighton wrote: > On Sunday 31 July 2005 4:04 pm, MJang wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 14:27 -0700, Scott Leighton wrote: > > > > > > > Well, the FAQ is abundantly clear on the subject. It explains the > > > complete rationale. > > > > Dear Scott, > > > > Please reply to the list, that's what it is for, not to me directly. My mistake. But since you've taken the time to answer my questions personally, which I appreciate, I shall take the time to respond. > > > Please show me where. I've re-read the FAQ again. I see nothing w/r/t > > any analysis in comparison to Fedora or Debian lists. > > And why, pray tell, should SuSE or anyone else feel the need > to provide you with an analysis comparing the Fedora or Debian > lists to SuSE's list? I ask the users, not SUSE. I believe that anyone who understands the differences has a better chance to dominate the market. I do believe some SUSE users are interested in evangelizing this distro. > > Your very question is arrogrant. You do understand that > list admins get to run their lists however they choose right? I do, and I respect it. As I said before, I have no problem with the decision. > > > > > > > As to comparisions with Fedora or Debian > > > mail lists, that's apples and oranges given that they all have > > > different list administrators and the list administrator gets > > > to make these kinds of decisions. > > > > And on each list, the decision seems to have popular support. What is > > different about each community? I think it's more than just the > > arbitrary decisions of a list manager. I suspect it's related to the > > European bent of the SUSE list membership, but I think that's too > > simplistic. > > > I think you are jumping to a wrong conclusion assuming that list > decisions are/were made by popular support. While it is certainly > likely that SuSE took the opinions of subscribers into account > when it made its decisions on how to manage this list, I seriously > doubt they put it to a vote. You're probably right there. > > I also think you are reaching to characterize > the > the list admin's > decisions as 'arbitary'. The FAQs make it clear that some thought > was put behind the decisions that the list admin made regarding > this and the other listed subjects. Which gets to my question, with respect to SUSE users. > > > > > > I think the reason why people here seem to have trouble answering the > > question is that it's more sociological in nature. Yes, a bit OT, but > > who better to understand the differences between Linux users than Linux > > users? > > > > I don't see where anyone here has any trouble at all answering your > question, the trouble seems to be on your end. You simply don't like > the answers so you keep harping on the issue. The answers I get are w/r/t why the decision was made for the mailing list. It does not address (as far as I can tell) the sociological motivations of SUSE users. > > It's real simple, this subject has been visited many many times in > the past, the OWNER of the list has made a descision regarding > this issue and thats that. Don't like the decision, then go start > your own list. I do appreciate the decision and abide by it. But I think the userbase who understands the differences first has a much better chance to dominate the Linux marketplace. Once again, I thank you (and others here) for the time you've taken to consider my question. Thanks, Mike

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