August 2005 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Upgrade path
by Donald Ade 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

Is it possible to just upgrade OpenSUSE through YOU from now on?

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Novell Linux to be in Indiana Schools!!
by Fred A. Miller 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 SAN FRANCISCO ___ Novell (NASDAQ:NOVL) has stated that thousands of high school students in Indiana will return to class this fall to find something new at their desks -- a Novell® Linux Desktop. Novell is helping schools across the state deploy computers built into student desks, starting with 1,600 desktops based on Intel® platforms this fall and eventually providing a Linux® computer for every student in every high school in the state. Ultimately, more than 300,000 Indiana high school students will have more immediate access to educational resources and increased opportunity for accelerated learning. http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php/20050814162718706 - -- Planet Earth - a subsidiary of Microsoft. We have no bugs in our software, Never! We do have undocumented added features, that you will find amusing, at no added cost to you, at this time. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDA1Ikfv/K/mN942ARAmp8AJ0cb+eW24Xan/eFl+PLl/VSIjCrVQCeKvm3 rGxNStJPkb1PitN5KlcSwpQ= =GyEY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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OOT: how's suse (novell) generate revenue
by Arie Reynaldi Z 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

Hi All, Maybe it was disccus before, but i'd have some question, if SuSE now is openSuSE, how suse generate revenue ? What else that will sell ? Support ? Suse Linux Enterprise ? I ask this because I really like suse, and I hope this one will stand last but as many business, they need revenue, right ? regards, -- Arie Reynaldi Zanahar reymanx at gmail.com http://www.reynaldi.or.id

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Will YOU update our current installatinos when 10.0 is officially released?
by Carl Hartung 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

Hi All, Anyone know if YOU will update our beta 10.0 installations once the distribution is officially released? I only ask because I've grown exceptionally fond of 10.0 Beta 2 and, if I had my 'druthers', I'd rather update it than go through installing, configuring and customizing it all over again. regards, - Carl

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How to stop Display turning off
by Kenneth Payne 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

I've just upgraded to SuSE 9.3 and I now have a system where the display blanks out after about 10 minutes of non-use. This is obviously power-management and it's working OK because if I touch the mouse or keyboard the display restores immediately. However, I never like this behaviour in a desktop PC so I always shut it off. This time, I can't seem to kill it. I've stopped the powersave demon, I've put acpi=off (that worked in SuSE 9.2) into the boot parameters, but nothing stops it. Can anyone tell me the magic incantation? Best wishes -Ken

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DVD ISO?
by Evan Montgomery-Recht 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

Are there any plans to make a DVD ISO... 5 DISC's is a little excessive... Also a Torrent for it would be nice? thanks, evan

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Fwd: [opensuse] Official openSUSE webforum?
by Peter Flodin 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

--private email from OpenSuse Member >Hi Peter, > >please.. pretty please, stop posting HTML messages to the openSUSE >mailing list. They make it very hard to follow. rofl....the irony is killing me....on a discussion of mailing lists and webforums....he he..;-)

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Re: [SLE] Cannot automount other partitions in 9.3
by Clayton 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

lal anil wrote: > check out the fstab entries and autofs mount option. by default no linux > kernel will support NTFS partition. pls recompile the kernel or install > a kerenl with default ntfs support. u can get it fron net... Ummm.. this is a default SUSE 9.3 install... why in the world would I have to recompile the default SUSE Kernel to get it to work exactly like 27 other 9.3 installs I have done? Not good advice got a new SUSE user... I can do it, but I am not going to tell the new user to do that. And this is not the solution... definitely not the solution to the problem. The default 9.3 install is suppoed to do this "out of the box", not with a bunch of guru tinkering and downloading other kernels off the net. BTW, by default SuSE9.3 DOES support NTFS for Read Only. Supports it just fine. C.

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10B2: nvidia-framebuffer hassle
by Janne Karhunen 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

Hi, Seems like it's more or less impossible to install nvidias driver to 10-beta2 (x86-64). First thing is that installer is entirely broken on ncurses mode, but that can be worked out. However, more vital problem is that installer bails out as it's unable to load kernel module due to frame buffer driver ( nvidiafb ) already having took over the device. So how do i disable it *not* to load this module (other than throwing it away)? Disabling fbset doesn't do the trick. Module won't unload either as its on use by someone. And of course fuser or lsof won't tell whos using it. This driver is even more annoying as it produces random display garbling .. -- // Janne

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APC's PowerChute vs. apcupsd
by Robert Paulsen 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

In a recent thread there were questions about UPS software for SuSE where I pointed out that apcupsd was a good choice for APC UPS systems. I also noted that it was a good idea to get the software from http://apcupsd.com. Someone replied that instead of apcupsd one should use the PowerChute software from th official APC site so I got a copy to check it out. I found that it has some problems: 1) PowerChute for Linux is not a complete package. Here is a quote from the documentation: NOTE: Your Linux download only includes the Agent component of the three PowerChute Business Edition software components. The other two components only run on Windows... 2) PowerChute doesn't support a USB connection, which is the only type of connection that was shipped with the APC system I recently bought (BackUPS XS-1000). PowerChute insists on using a serial port. You will need to contact APC to get the proper serial cable. 3) PowerChute depends on a specific version of Java. About apcupsd: The version that comes with SuSE 9.3 (3.10.16) works, but it has a minor problem with the USB connection in that it gets some of the status wrong. There are some other problems as well, but its main functions do work OK. I got the latest source (3.10.18) from http://apcupsd.com and have been using that successfully for some time now. I didn't use the web site's rpm version (it only advertises SuSE support up to version 9.2) from the web site. The rpm on the SuSE CD/DVD has been patched by SuSE to improve its init script and a few other things. So, the best thing seems to be to install the rpm from the SuSE 9.3 CD/DVD, save the init script, build and install the newer version from the apcups web site, then put back the SuSE version of the init script. This is what I have done. Building the package is fairly standard -- configure, make, make install. But configure requires some options: ./configure --enable-cgi --enable-pthreads --enable-net \ --enable-master-slave --enable-apcsmart \ --enable-dumb --enable-usb make make install You may need to copy some files (e.g. the CGI files?) to their correct directories -- I don't remember exactly what I did. I know that all sounds like a lot of trouble, but it really isn't too hard and once installed apcupsd is a snap to configure and run. Work it all out with the SuSE version first then copy in the updated executables.

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