What do you mean by "crosses time zones"? Several states are split in two time zones. All of Indiana will be observing DST starting next April. Unfortunately, that means that most of the state will have clocks almost two hours ahead of the sun for most of the year. Windows doesn't have any trouble with "Indiana time", btw. India is in both the Central and Eastern time zone. Yes, I stand corrected,

On Wednesday 17 August 2005 11:29 am, Wendell Sexson wrote: there are several states that span time zones, such as Indiana, Florida, Kentucky, Tennessee, N&S Dakota, Ne, KS, Oregon, Idaho - I might have missed one or two. Indiana is the most confused though. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9

James Knott wrote:

Jerry Feldman wrote:

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India is in both the Central and Eastern time zone.

Gee... No wonder Columbus was confused about the Indians. ;-)

Yeah, this Indian (typing this message) wondered a bit about that too! ;) -- Shriramana Sharma http://samvit.org (o- Penguin #395953 //\ running on ancient Indian wisdom V_/_ and modern computing efficiency

On Thursday 18 August 2005 2:39 pm, Mike wrote:

Don't forget Alaska.  Currently 2 time zones, and only one follows daylight savings, and crosses iirc 3 solar time zones. Duly noted, but with over 10 hours of sunlight during the summer, does Alaska need a daylight savings. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9

On Thursday 18 August 2005 3:10 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:

Parts of Sweden have 24h sunshine part of the year, and we still have it I thought you donated some of that to France :-) -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9

Jerry Feldman wrote:

On Thursday 18 August 2005 2:39 pm, Mike wrote:

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Don't forget Alaska. Currently 2 time zones, and only one follows daylight savings, and crosses iirc 3 solar time zones. Duly noted, but with over 10 hours of sunlight during the summer, does Alaska need a daylight savings.

Isn't it closer to 6 months of daylight? ;-)

On Monday, August 22, 2005 @ 12:18 AM, Stanley Long wrote:

James Knott wrote:

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Jerry Feldman wrote:

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On Thursday 18 August 2005 2:39 pm, Mike wrote:

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Don't forget Alaska. Currently 2 time zones, and only one follows daylight savings, and crosses iirc 3 solar time zones.

Duly noted, but with over 10 hours of sunlight during the summer, does Alaska need a daylight savings.

Isn't it closer to 6 months of daylight? ;-)

Look at the day/night graphic at http://pafc.arh.noaa.gov/

also a tabular text summary: ................Sunrise.........Sunset 21 Aug 6:25 AM 9:40 PM 22 Aug 6:28 AM 9:37 PM

Daylight today: 15h 14m Loss of: 5m 36s

Right. Check out that daily loss number. That's over a half hour less daylight each week. Greg Wallace

On Thursday 18 August 2005 19:39, Mike wrote:

Don't forget Alaska.

As if we would!

On Wednesday 17 August 2005 11:33 am, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

And that will change shortly, not necessarily for the better.  Soon we will be having summer evenings with sunlight until nearly 10pm.  Gone will be the mornings with 4:30am sunrises   :^( Ptilopteri in Pandemonium :-) -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9

On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 11:15:03AM -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote:

That is probably the only way they can get computers in Indiana to figure out the time zone. (For those that do not know, Indiana is the only state in the US that crosses time zones, and additionally, some places have daylight savings and others do not). This would drive MS Windows nuts :-)

That's why I don't live there. I'd be a dick and order pizza from across the street, the time zone change is on a road there and I'd make them give it to me free for taking "an hour". --

Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9

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On Thursday 18 August 2005 3:13 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote:

I hope this works out. I'd love to have a generation that isn't just about playing games on their PeeCee. Wouldn't that be something. :)

Yes......what a concept! ;) Fred -- Planet Earth - a subsidiary of Microsoft. We have no bugs in our software, Never! We do have undocumented added features, that you will find amusing, at no added cost to you, at this time.

CorvusE wrote:

On Thursday 18 August 2005 8:47 pm, Fred A. Miller wrote:

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On Thursday 18 August 2005 3:13 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote:

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I hope this works out. I'd love to have a generation that isn't just about playing games on their PeeCee. Wouldn't that be something. :)

Yes......what a concept! ;)

I'm fond of saying that everything I learned about computers, I learned getting games to run on a 386 wit 4 MB of RAM.

There are worse things then playing games on their PC. Especially if they're going to try and get Windows games running under Linux. That'll be an education!

Youngsters are more inquisitive than their teachers whose approach to using computers is blinkered and Windows has taught them to be suspicious of just about everything and especially not to trust the quiet kid with the freckled face. One of the first smart Linux guys I met had a telling tale. The Windows network at College was down, whatever they needed to get it working again was not possible -- chicken and egg situation/catch 22. He suggested he could fetch his Linux PC from home and get the network going again and they agreed as they were desparate. Linux and Leigh got it all functioning again ... excellent and a sigh of relief from the staff, but they started following him around, asking exactly what he was doing, because he was a HACKER, they also refused him a dial-up account from home so he could get them out of any similar problems they may subsequently have had. Unless they have a goodly number of Linux sysadmins to allay their fears and keep control, the kids will cause them all kinds of panic by demonstrating they know more than their teachers. I suggested to a neighbour I'd download and install firefox on his PC, explaining that it would isolate him from the sort of attacks he suffered, but by his reaction I could see that any attempt to do so would result in me losing some fingers. Windows hardens the mind's arteries. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks