December 2005 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Konqueror with cdrom
by Art Fore 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Why do I have to enter "media://media/dvdrecorder" in the konqueror URL instead of just "/media/dvdrecorder" to view the files on the audio cdrom? Reason I ask, using the gtkpod to copy files to the ipod, I get no files from "/media/dvdrecorder" when I want to copy them to the ipod. Art

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Upgrade Gnome 2.6 to 2.12 - HowTo Anywhere?
by L. Mark Stone 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Gnome newbie (used to run KDE mostly) with SuSE 9.2 and box stock Gnome 2.6, except I installed Red Carpet to upgrade Evolution to 2.2.3. Now I'd like to try upgrading Gnome to 2.12. I tried doing it the same way that I have successfully upgraded KDE in the past: Add the appropriate Supplementary tree as a YaST source; Install/Remove software; select zzzall; all in this list > update if newer version available. I was met with a torrent of rpm conflicts, so I Googled for a HowTo but came up empty. I went to James Ogley's wonderful usr-local-bin ftp site and found that the directories went from 9.1 to 9.3. Not a good sign... Any ideas on how best to do this? Thanks! Mark -- _________________________________________________________ A Message From... L. Mark Stone Reliable Networks of Maine, LLC "We manage your network so you can manage your business" 477 Congress Street Portland, ME 04101 Tel: (207) 772-5678 Web: http://www.rnome.com This email was sent from Reliable Networks of Maine LLC. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you suspect that you were not intended to receive it, please delete it and notify us as soon as possible. Thank you.

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Re: [SLE] Firefox not working
by Clint Tinsley 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

In Firefox, enter 'about:config' in address URL window. Scroll down to network.dns.ipv6 and disable it. ----- Original Message ----- From: peevee To: SLE <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com>, suse-multimedia-e(a)suse.com Subject: [SLE] Firefox not working Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:12:13 +0530 Hello all, I dont know y my firefox doesnt work, but my Knoqurer works fine, my firefox is able to resolve the domain name, but waits saying connecting.... and gives a time out message.. this is the same even in my ubuntu live boot cd, can any one give me any clue why this is happening? only knoqurer is working.... even gaim or any other browser dont work.. why ? any clue? -- PEEVEE

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Thunderbird Question
by James Hatridge 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

HI all, In Thunderbird's filters, can I rewrite the headers to remove the " [SLE]"? If so, how? Thanks, JIM

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meeting minutes: openSUSE allhands meeting 2005-12-14
by Juergen Weigert 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

openSUSE allhands meeting 2005-12-14 disclaimer: The following document covers a meeting of the openSUSE team. It summarizes expectations, concerns, ideas and opportunities around the openSUSE project. It is a rough collection of bits and pieces, neither complete nor final. Please note that these meeting minutes do not reflect any official Novell statement or any binding roadmap or schedule. It is open for discussion and improvement and reflects solely the ideas and opinion of the individual participants. present: aj, holgi, hvogel, mlasars, freitag, cthiel, jw, skh, mls, fs, bg, mruewckert, sp, froh missing: michl, adrian, cschum Minutes: jw, sp TOPICS 1) Chances 2) Risks 3) Expectations 4) Discussion - (Hosting, Rear Cover, Communication, Provo, Force, Workload) 5) Next Steps Non-participants receiving AIs: adrian, michl, ro, mmj and ea. 1) Chances ========== Just like the list that was put to gether at the BST offsite meeting, this expresses our hopes for openSUSE. * Real involvement of the community * Mind share / market share * Access to new user groups * Awaken enthusisam for Open Source inside Novell (again) "paint Novell (more) green". * openSUSE could be a central repository for OSS. Not for hosting source, but as "DistForge". * openSUSE could become the driving force behind all Novell Linux products. * We define a new standard for collaborative packaging and distribution building. * become an open platform, suited for experimenal development * strengthen the "SUSE Linux" brand. * Create the world's very best Linux distribution - * and finally: - rule the World (any volunteers?) 2) Risks ======== * The openSUSE project fades away (both, inside and outside of Novell), or does gain momentum soon enough. * It is unclear, how the community can participate. * The wiki may prove to be an insufficient platform for communication. * We try to change everything except ourselves. (Ouch, this one went deep! Thanks Henne) * openSUSE causes fear, uncertainty and doubt at some places inside and outside Novell. * Hosting turns out to be more difficult than expected. (e.g. time delay between Nbg and Provo) * openSUSE may create so much diversity (in packages and distributions) that clarity gets lost. How do we address that? 3) Expectations =============== Some really realistic items. General Expectations -------------------- * Experience full rear cover from Novell. * Offer a platform for building any distribution. - including those with different packaging formats. * The openSUSE team must grow far beyond the core team that we have now. AJ envisions that all of Suse and Novell is doing openSUSE. Expectations for today ---------------------- An attempt to make an agenda while half way through the meeting. * define short term Action Items. What shall we do tomorrow? * Identify all current blocker issues. * Improve Communications - precisely how to change the current situation? * Resolve conflicting messages (Ask 10 people get 11 answers). Reduce uncertainties, raise confidence. 4 Discussion ============ Hosting ------- - mrueckert currently maintains from Nuernberg a wiki located in Provo. Time shifts and turnaround times within the company are challenging. - we generally suffer from the time shifts within Novell * translated wiki pages are still not ready. - We failed to understand many issues, feedback is lacking. We resort to guesswork: * Klaas clarifies that our rapid wishes for software upgrade collide with e.g. our security policies of the data center. - A new naming idea surfaced. We are not a 'SourceForge', but a 'BinaryForge' as we host (RPM) Binaries. -> 'DistForge'? Rear Cover ---------- We are unsure, how far this project will go. We fear that all openSUSE activities have certain limits, but these are diffuse. We have identified the following issues: - How to deal with sensitive, internal information and how to qualify what information shall be made public by an official press anouncement of Novell? - Most of us would be fully booked even without openSUSE. How much time can we spend which openSUSE? - openSUSE is positioned as a market enabler not as a profit line Stefan responds with these rules of thumb: * We have full commitment from Novell to provide the required resources, if we can sufficiently demonstrate that openSUSE is a success. This focusses mainly on hardware but also covers man power to a certain degree: 1) We are encouraged to get as many people inside Novell involved as we can. 2) New people can be hired as trainees, studend for diploma works. * We may disclose as much and as early as we feel safe ourselves. When in doubt, inform the upper management beforehand, but do not wait for any objections longer than a week. * "Don't ask for approval, ask for forgiveness" The idea is, not to thwart ourselves. * continuosly raise issues with the projects for management attention where needed (AI: aj, skh) We agree in case of doubt to not wait for any official blessings, but meanwhile work with Stefan's rules of thumb whereever reasonable. General communication issues (external) --------------------------------------- * The community cannot see what is checked in and when. - establish an opensuse-checkin mailinglist. (AI: mls, fs) Automatically forward dist-mails containing the recent cangelog entires there for all packages that appear on an openSUSE distribution. * migrate internal mailing lists to opensuse.org Candidates are: packagers, suse-network, devel-ftl, devel-gcc?, mobile? Non-candidates are: kernel and other mailing lists where security issues or servicepacks are discussed. (AI: hvogel visiting teamlead-meetings, mmj) * No more private status meetings. - open up as public IRC discussions, as excercised last monday. on a regular bi-weekly schedule. presumably 16h-17h MEST, or alternating time frames if required. Suggestion: collect agenda items in the wiki. AI: hvogel uses devel-ftl for the last time to announce the first meeting. - voting in such a meeting may be difficult. We must not raise expectations above the limits that novell can fulfill. - have internal coordination meetings only on demand (AI: adrian) * Make teams available interactivly. We should have one contact person per openSUSE team. Simply lingering around at IRC is not sufficient. We should offer instant messaging. AI skh: ask teams to update their wiki pages to include preferred means of contact (mailing list and/or IM/IRC nicks and networks) Encourage ----- Henne: We are in the postition that we can actively encourage and involve SUSE employees towards the openSUSE community. * sp votes for applying only mild force :-) * Klaas prefers to lure people by offering added value. Discussion results in the following order of precedence: First inform, then ask, then persuade, then actively help and support. Information should be forwarded via teamleads. Workload -------- Project managers book resources from the teamleads. SLES10, SL10.1 deadlines are all before FOSDEM. Freitag endangers the future of his FATE project, by involving his team too deeply into openSUSE. Adding random resources from all over Novell is probably insufficient. 5) Next Steps ============= Short-Term Action Items ----------------------- * Make a Christmas-Theme or just some greeting for the Wiki. (AI: Henne, put some nice snow into the graphics) * Migrate mailinglists as defined above (AI: hvogel) * Announce preferred interactive contact per team at each team's wiki page. Details above. (AI: skh) Medium-Term Action Items ------------------------ * Strive for Opensource Build Service (AI: skh, aj) * clean up product naming. - 'openSUSE' vs. 'Suse LINUX OSS' is not correctly distinguished in the community or in the press. (AI: michl, aj) - 'eval', 'retail', 'plus' are not well defined. (AI: michl, aj, fs, hvogel, skh) * consolidate openSUSE web forums. There are several external opensuse-forums, that are willing to merge. None of the external forums comes with a defined long term commitment. Novell shall run an openSUSE web forum as a beta-test now. This Novell-forum relies on commercial software, which was inadequate in previous releases. (AI: michl, cthiel) * FOSDEM Build Service Prototype (AI: freitag, ro) - Budgetplan FOSDEM (AI: sp) -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _=======.=======_ <V> | jw(a)suse.de wide open suse_/ _---|____________\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 (tm)__/ (____/ /\ (/) | __________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8

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Firefox not working
by peevee 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Hello all, I dont know y my firefox doesnt work, but my Knoqurer works fine, my firefox is able to resolve the domain name, but waits saying connecting.... and gives a time out message.. this is the same even in my ubuntu live boot cd, can any one give me any clue why this is happening? only knoqurer is working.... even gaim or any other browser dont work.. why ? any clue? -- PEEVEE

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Re: [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 Alpha4 Uploading
by Aschwin Marsman 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > * Further integration of NetworkManager (note: NetworkManager is on by > default on NLD/SUSE Linux and off on SLES) Why? NetworkManager is already removed from my SUSE 10.0 because it ate a lot of CPU cycles. What does it do what I do not can do without it? Is it's use optional? When I found out that my system was slow because of NetworkManager I did a "man NetworkManager" to find out what it brings me but no man page was found. Is that fixed for the factory version? (Currently downloading, it will take a while on a 5Mbit link). > Andreas Best regards, Aschwin Marsman -- aschwin(a)marsman.org http://www.marsman.org

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Suse 10.0 OSS boot freezes after "boot.local done"
by Daniel Bauer 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Hi everybody, I try and try and try to install Suse 10.0 OSS. Boot hangs during first reboot after showing the last two messages: System Boot Control: The system has been set up System Boot Control: Running /etc/init.d./boot.local done I've been looking around for hours and hours in google and forums, finding a lot of similar problems but no solution that worked. I did the first install using a downloaded Boot-CD. Then I downloaded all 5 CD's, burned them slowly, and try to installs with them now. But ftp-/CD-install make no difference. Here's what I tried: -boot option "acpi=off" (I always used this, because Suse 9.0 needed it, too) -tried to start with "failsave" option - no difference -tried additional boot-parameter "BrokenModules=yenta_socket" as proposed in another forum - no difference - made a completely new text-only installation (without x), same result... - again a new text-only installation, but now everything on same partition (except swap) - same result My computer: Motherboard ASUS P4PE/GBL/SATA/1394/GD-UAY with Intel 845 PE Chipset Pentium P4 2.4 Ghz 2x512 MB Memory CD-/DVD-ROM-Drive CD-Burner Zip-Drive Promise Ultra Controller 3 HD's, one one motherboards controller, 2 on promise, all as Master devices Adaptec SCSI card NVIDIA Gforce4 TI graphic card boot-line in Suse 9 additionally contains "desktop hdd=ide-scsi hddlun=0", this is not in the boot-line (menu-list) of Suse 10. I've added this, too, but: no change, freezes on same place. I tried to come to another console before the freeze occurs, but ALT-Fx didn't show another console (nor did CTRL-ALT-Fx), I tried F1 to F12... If you need to know more, tell me what (and if it isn't obvious, tell me how to find out - I can still start Suse 9 and find out...). Oh: I'm everything else than a computer-crack, so maybe tell me how to obtain any information you need, please. I would very much appreciate to receive help! Thanks. Daniel

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Large File Transfer Problems
by Clint Tinsley 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

I have been having some challenges downloading large files such as DVD iso > 2 GB. Using Firefox is almost an invitation to disaster although I have been succesful on some and this isn't a 2.1 GB file size limitation. I check all downloads against the published MD5SUM from the download source. I usually have to fall back to using wget and getting the file download that way, which works. The other issue I am seeing is that on downloads from SMB sources (another Linux box samba share) using konquerer, the file will download to 100% and never finish, just sits there at 100%, not on all DVD iso's but some. In those cases, I have resorted to an FTP get which works without fail. Note, that I am able to work around the problems but the work around takes a bit more effort (and time) to implement. This is all on SuSE 10.0 Retail. Anyone else noticed these problems or have any suggestions? TIA Clint

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Cloning a Suse 10 Partition & Ethernet problems
by Ignacio Verona 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Hi! I'm trying to clone a Suse 10 partition to various nodes in a cluster, but I have a problem with the network interfaces. The installation I need to clone has one eth interface, which gets the ip by dhcp. The original node works great, but when I try to boot the cloned nodes, they seem to look for the original eth interface, with a specific MAC. Does any body know if SuSe links each interface configuration with it's MAC, o something like that? Or what's the problem? Thanks in advance, Ignacio.

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