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Re: [SLE] defrag for linux-answered at TLDP
by GarUlbricht7＠netscape.net 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Sid Boyce <sboyce(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >John Andersen wrote: > >>On Saturday 29 November 2003 14:06, Stephen W wrote: >> >>> Users of the ext2 file system can probably do without >>>d efrag, because ext2 contains extra code to keep fragmentation reduced ---(test snipped)--- >> >> So what avout Reiserfs? Does it do defragging too? >> ---<text snipped>--- Sid wrote a very nice reply reminding us that defrag: "..it's like taking ski gear on an African safari" and how Linux is not M$. Sid's comments reminds me of that old joke which is sometimes attributed to Kevin Wilcox, namely: "Windows - A thirty two bit extension and gui shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit microprocessor and sold by a two bit company that can't stand one bit of competition." Whereas, when I started many years ago running fortran and cobol programs on IBM 360, and "Unix" was still being developed at AT&T, I was very concerned about "how long" my program ran because I was charged by the second. (and I had a limited budget). I would arrange data so program would go as fast as possible. When we were doing work on the Soil Data Bank in the '70's for Alyeska we had the some of the same worries, and would have programs which presorted the data, etc.to cut down run times. However, "Defragging" of the disk or tape was notnever anissue, and to my small mind it has to do with how Unix / Linux uses it "swap space" and how it "delays writing to tape / disk, and thus how it runs the data in and out of memory and in and out of backup medium. That's why Linux has "sync". I am sure M$ has a similar command, however, i don't remember what it is... And I am sure people who understand files system better than I do are LOL at my simplistic reasoning. Gar -- "The best way to get information on Usenet is not to ask a question, but to post the wrong information." - Aahz' Law -- __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455

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GNOME-DB/gLabels
by James Ogley 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Updated on www.usr-local-bin.org today: * GNOME-DB - database backend for GNOME applications - libgda and libgnomedb updated to version 1.0.2 - bugfix release * gLabels - label and business card software - Updated to version 1.93.0 - Interface improvements - Feature set for 2.0.0 now complete James -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james(a)rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter(a)myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 9.0) GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org

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compiling with gnome.h
by David Blomber 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Okay I did some searching and installed all the gtk libs and gnome-config then I tried compiling a very basic program: //gnomeshow.c #include<gnome.h> int main(int argc, char argv[]) { gprint("gchar: %d\n",sizeof(gchar)); exit(0); } //make CC=gcc LDLIBS=`gnome-config --libs gnomeui` CFLAGS=-Wall -g `gnome-config --cflags gnomeui` gshow:gshow.o //end anyway this used to work a long time ago but now all I get is gnome.h unknown.....Anyone know what I am doing wrong or whats different these days in SuSE (8.2 Pro---all Gnome libs and gnome-config loaded in fact /opt/gnome/include/gnome-1.0/gnome.h is where the header exist) Or is this something I am not supposed to use anymore now that we are much laterin the GTK tree?? Thanks in advance David Blomberg

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Bluetooth & Pam
by sjb 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Hi all, I bought a USB Bluetooth adapter for my laptop (SuSE 8.2) at the weekend and I'd like to use it to transfer files to and from my Clie. The two devices can see each other (I can l2ping the Clie from the laptop), but I'm not sure how I can transfer files between the two devices .. sending files from the Clie doesn't seem to invoke any kind of response from the laptop. I've searched about and am a bit confused about exactly what I can do over bluetooth. Can anybody point me somewhere that might help? Cheers, sjb

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EXT3 -> EXT2
by Yuriy Chumak 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Is there a possibility to return from EXT3 file system to the EXT2 ? I use SuSE 7.3, after updating of kernel to 2.4.18 my server randomly freeze until I disable using AMAVIS in POSTFIX. On the original 2.4.10 there is no any sympthomps. ---- -> http://torg.alkar.net -> Nokia 6610 - $30 -> Nokia 3310 - $7 -> SDRAM 256 Mb - $5 -> http://torg.alkar.net

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SuSE 8.1 + K6-II + Help
by Marcelo Simon 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Hi All, I need help. I have a box with SuSE 8.1 with this kernel (uname -a): 2.4.19-4GB #1 Mon August 4 (i686) unknow This kernel is k_deft (and i need it´s). It´s run Ok on Duron, Athlon and Pentium II > processors but in K6-II no. I found this because while the inittab is run; any errors occurs with respawn too fast messages in inittab entry´s. I search in web and found various articles but none solve my problem. In SuSE sdb Site i found this article http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/1999/07/amd.html , but my processor not in this range. I recompiled the kernel with unsynced TSC option marked but no solve my problem.... And now.... in SuSE FTP exists a kernel for my problem. In SuSE kernel source documentation, this problem it´s libc related, but i swap original libc to http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/suse/updates/8.1/i386/rpm/i686/glibc-2.2.5-184… but no solve. The lines below show my based doc: "Unsynced TSC support CONFIG_X86_TSC_DISABLE This option is used for getting Linux to run on a NUMA multi-node boxes, laptops and other systems suffering from unsynced TSCs or TSC drift, which can cause gettimeofday to return non-monotonic values. Choosing this option will disable the CONFIG_X86_TSC optimization, and allows you to then specify "notsc" as a boot option regardless of which processor you have compiled for. NOTE: If your system hangs when init should run, you are probably using a i686 compiled glibc which reads the TSC wihout checking for avaliability. Boot without "notsc" and install a i386 compiled glibc to solve the problem." thanks in advance. []´s anckerDJ

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802.1q and SuSE 7.3
by Yuriy Chumak 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Is there a patch for kernel of SuSE 7.3 (2.4.10) for using 802.1q interfaces ? ---- -> http://torg.alkar.net -> Nokia 6610 - $30 -> Nokia 3310 - $7 -> SDRAM 256 Mb - $5 -> http://torg.alkar.net

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MainActor and vcd
by marcia 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Dear All, I have the Main Actor 3.5 on my Suse 8.2 and made a mpeg that I was hoping to change into vcd so that I may burn it on cd. My question is this. Can it be done through Main Actor? I thought someone did it with Main Actor here but I cannot figure out how. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Marcia

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installing SUSE 9.0 on existing Mandrake installation
by Brett A. Taylor 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Hi folks, I'm currently running Mandrake 9.1 but I want to switch to SUSE. I have 3 partitions on my current hard drive: my main partition (hda1), mounted at / as ext3; swap (hda5); and hda6, which is mounted as /home. I have downloaded SUSE and it exists on hda6. What I want to do is format the Mandrake partition on hda1, but *keep* (this is the most important part) without loosing *any* data on hda6, and set SUSE to mount it as /home. Is this going to work? I don't really understand how Linux partitions work very well -- but part of what I'm most concerned about is how SUSE is going to tie together the existing owners/groups on the hda6 partition with new users created by SUSE. thanks! Brett

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Re: [SLE] Speed of 9.0 vs. 8.2
by steve-ss 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

On Monday 01 December 2003 09:52, you wrote: > On Monday 01 December 2003 03:08, David Krider wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 18:02, knesbitt wrote: > > > What is the general consensus regarding the overall > > > speed of 9.0 vs. 8.2? I have read that there may be a > > > speed hit in upgrading to 9.0? > > > > I think there's a noticeable hit. I got frustrated with > > several niggling things on 9.0 -- including the speed > > issue -- and went back to 8.2. I have to say that I > > feel that things sped back up. I don't have any > > quantifications, but I would like to point out that > > after spending $70 (including shipping) for 9.0, I was > > predisposed to like it, so it's not like I was looking > > for things that would annoy me. > > > > Regards, > > dk > 9.0 is too slow on our lan with PII 450 clients with 128 RAM. We have had to stick with 8.2. On fast boxes like our server, it's fine. Steve. (sorry david, forgot to post to list)

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