May 2002 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [SLE] Update Yast2!
by James.Rocks＠equant.com 31 May '02

31 May '02

Hi again Fred, > > I've had a look and can't find the YaST update ... could you tell me where > > it is? > Use Yast2, then "Software," then "Online Update." 'Scuse me if I sound a bit thick (newbie 'n all that) but I don't understand? I was asking where the update was on the SuSE website? James C. Rocks Equant Archway House Canary Wharf London E14 9SZ Phone: 0207-5226856 Fax: 0207-5126087 Mobile Phone: 07771-767405 http://www.equant.com p.s. sorry for e-mailing you directly, on Lotus notes I have to remember to direct my e-mails to the list otherwise they go to the person!

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Re: Imperialism by any other name still smells
by Thomas E. Beasley, Jr. 31 May '02

31 May '02

Hi all, I've been reading the post on Low-Cal, Turbo-SuSeva long enough to want to add my 0.02 worth. ; 0) Much of what I'm about to say is a response to the thread begun by Brian Durant, earlier today. Technology is rapidly transforming the world as we have known it. A good example of this statement would be a situation that occurred to a member of a friend's church not too long ago. The man was in Beijing, China on a business trip. While standing on a street corner, waiting for a farmer and his ox cart to pass, the American heard a familiar sound. The farmer stopped walking and reached into his blouse to pull out his cell phone. The farmer proceeded to converse with some unseen friend right there in the street beside his ox cart. What happened on a street corner in Beijing, China is replicated all over the world many times each day. Technology is indeed spreading throughout the world at a rapid pace. However, there is a lot of baggage that is still trying to be carried along with it from former historical eras. One of the worst pieces of baggage is imperialism. In the past, countries used imperialism to acquire advantages like markets and raw materials, and to advance their power and prestige in the world community. In fact, there was once an imperialistic boast that the sun never set on a certain country's flag. Much of what we studied in history class about the age of imperialism seems to be carried over today in the corporate levels of some big business. A certain software business can make the same boast about the sun never setting on its flags (95 flag, 98 flag, ME flag, 2000 flag, XP flag ) today. That company's exploits in the world of business, on behalf of its flags, has many parallels with the tactics used by imperialistic governments in the past to take over geographical territory. Imperialistic countries in the past always claimed that they did what they did for the betterment of the people in the geographical area being imperialized. The guys in Redmond, Washington make similar claims about their New Imperialism. The end result of imperialism is that some governments/ businesses are on top and the rest are relegated to a second or third class relationship with the imperialist. The best way to fight this New Imperialism is to support the Free Software / Open Source movements, and to support the anti-imperialistic companies offering an alternative. If we don't ... we all will become colonist of the flags. Tom, in /usually/ sunny, balmy Florida's First Coast. ><> <>< Air conditioners and computers are alike. Once you open windows they're both useless. ><> <>< This message originated from a Unix computer using Open Source software: SuSE Linux 7.2 Pro, Galeon 1.2.0-9 Browser, AbiWord 1.0.1 Word Processor, Ximian Gnome 1.4.0.8 and Evolution 1.0.5-1 Groupware Suite. Have a lot of fun!!! (Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) _____________________________________________________________________________________

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RE: [SLE] must you Spam the list?
by mslpop3 31 May '02

31 May '02

Hey Stuart. Hope all is well. I completely agree with you! His antics are not only childish, but to put it mildly, highly unprofessional and annoying. This is not the place! Everyone on the list is here to resolve an issue, accomplish certain tasks, share our knowledge, and learn. He should be removed from the list. A lot of people use Outlook, not necessarily because it's their application of choice, but because they may receive these e-mails at their workplace and Outlook is what is in use. Whatever the reason, I think EVERYONE should do what you do and delete his messages as they arrive. He's not contributing to the goal and purpose of the list! Michael -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Powell [mailto:SPowell@pcsolutionsmn.com] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:27 AM To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] must you Spam the list? Ah, Bill, you must be new to the list. You must also be an MS Outlook/Outlook Express user. Some time ago, dep got a bee in his bonnet about receiving virii from Outlook/OE users, and has begun a personal crusade to rid the world of these most proliferate of virus delivery tools. To this end, each of his messages is carefully crafted so as to confuse Outlook/OE. I always see his messages in red, with a little flag next to them in the message list, and the content of the message is hidden in a difficult to access .dat file. However, here in the office, the messages work just fine in Groupwise. I can't blame dep for getting upset about the number of virii in circulation, but I don't agree with him deliberately excluding a large portion of this list's readership with his childish antics. I gave up even attempting to read his obscure messages long ago, and now have a rule directing them straight to the Deleted Items folder. No doubt I will now get flamed for calling a fellow list member childish. My asbestos undies are firmly in place; bring it on ! Bye for now, Stuart. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com

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KonCD
by Jay Vollmer 31 May '02

31 May '02

Has anyone successfully used the version of KonCD in SuSE 8.0? When I attempt to burn some backups, it consistantly crashes on me as soon as I press "Start". -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER1(a)MN.RR.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK IGNORE FULLWISE

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Re: [SLE] must you Spam the list?
by Stuart Powell 31 May '02

31 May '02

Ah, Bill, you must be new to the list. You must also be an MS Outlook/Outlook Express user. Some time ago, dep got a bee in his bonnet about receiving virii from Outlook/OE users, and has begun a personal crusade to rid the world of these most proliferate of virus delivery tools. To this end, each of his messages is carefully crafted so as to confuse Outlook/OE. I always see his messages in red, with a little flag next to them in the message list, and the content of the message is hidden in a difficult to access .dat file. However, here in the office, the messages work just fine in Groupwise. I can't blame dep for getting upset about the number of virii in circulation, but I don't agree with him deliberately excluding a large portion of this list's readership with his childish antics. I gave up even attempting to read his obscure messages long ago, and now have a rule directing them straight to the Deleted Items folder. No doubt I will now get flamed for calling a fellow list member childish. My asbestos undies are firmly in place; bring it on ! Bye for now, Stuart.

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RE: [SLE] 8.0 report (This just in!)
by KMcLauchlan＠chrysalis-its.com 31 May '02

31 May '02

OK, it figures... nothing happens until I bitch and moan, and then ten minutes later I get the phonecall "Your software just arrived." Now, if only the senders would learn to mark the package as "Printed Matter", I would not have been dinged another $26.35 in taxes when FedEx brought it across the border. I can hardly wait to take it home and take it for a spin. (It better be worth it... grumble, grumble... $79.95 US + $27.95 US s&h + $26.35 CDN... yow! That hurts!). So, if I correctly understand recent posts, I should do a clean install, rather than just updating from my current, messy 7.3 Pro with Ximian GNOME, since I don't have much stuff that I (think I) need to save. I want to get back to KDE anyway. GNOME is nice, but KDE has a certain attraction... maybe it's the accent.... :-) Other than e-mail files, and (obviously, documents that I've created and a couple of little projects, is there anything I should bother backing up? /kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: KMcLauchlan(a)chrysalis-its.com > [mailto:KMcLauchlan@chrysalis-its.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:10 PM > > What!!??! It's in the stores already, and they still > haven't shipped me my pre-paid 8.0 Pro? The bums! > > :-) > > /kevin > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cleary_Mike(a)emc.com [mailto:Cleary_Mike@emc.com] > > > Well, Best Buy does not have 8.0. In fact they > > > > have NO versions of any linux distributions at all!! > > > > CompUSA has 8.0 Personal, but not Professional. > > > > Sigh... >

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Mutt 1.4 + ispell = broken
by Ben Rosenberg 31 May '02

31 May '02

Well, this is an on topic question. I compiled Mutt 1.4 and ispell is no longer able to be called from Mutt. I've done nothing different this time when I compiled it..and I've compiled most of the 1.3.X tree. It seems with 1.4 something changed and I can't figure out what. Could someone point me in the right direction? I've looked on mutt.org's site and can't find anything in the FAQ's. Cheers! -=Ben --=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little. -GC --=====-----=====--

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Update Yast2!
by Fred A. Miller 31 May '02

31 May '02

Thanks, boys and girls at SuSE! There's an updated Yast2 that has at least 1 fix I just found, that being the gpg error message in YOU! Fred -- Fred A. Miller Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fm(a)cupserv.org, www.cupserv.org --- SuSE Linux v8.0 Pro, Netscape 7.0---

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via ide udma & ibm hd freezes kernel
by Oliver Eikemeier 31 May '02

31 May '02

Hi, I'm using SuSE Linux 8.0 with a 2.4.18 kernel, and a machine with a VIA vt82c686b southbridge. The system runs very stable with only one (Western Digital) hard disk on ide bus 0, but when I add a second (IBM) hard disk configured as slave, the kernel freezes when I'm accessing the second disk (after *some accesses, i.e. when I can copy 10 small files on it, it freezes on the third). I read the mailing list, lost of people seem to have problems with this configuration, but most advices are to change the cable, which I did. Symptoms are: the hard disk LED is on, the machine freezes (no blinking cursor on the text console, no remote access) or the caps lock & scroll lock LEDs on the keyboard flash, same lockup. I had the same problems with FreeBSD: "UDMA ICRC error writing fsbn 127590847 of 63795392-63795423 (ad1s1 bn 1275908 47; cn 7942 tn 41 sn 34) retrying" and I could get the system stable by switching to udma33, so I tried the same on linux: > hdparm -c1 -m16 -X66 -d1 /dev/hda > hdparm -c1 -m16 -X66 -d1 /dev/hdb but the kernel still hangs. Maybe someone can point me to a solution, please CC: me personally, because I'm not subscribed to this list. Thanks Oliver > dmesg [...] Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39 VP_IDE: chipset revision 6 VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx VP_IDE: VIA vt82c686b (rev 40) IDE UDMA100 controller on pci00:07.1 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio hda: WDC WD200EB-00CSF0, ATA DISK drive hdb: IC35L080AVVA07-0, ATA DISK drive hdc: DVD-ROM DDU1621, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 blk: queue c033ce24, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) hda: safely enabled flush hda: 39102336 sectors (20020 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=38792/16/63, UDMA(100) blk: queue c033cf74, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) hdb: safely enabled flush hdb: 160836480 sectors (82348 MB) w/1863KiB Cache, CHS=10011/255/63, UDMA(100) hdc: no flushcache support hdc: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache [...] > cat /proc/ide/via ----------VIA BusMastering IDE Configuration---------------- Driver Version: 3.34 South Bridge: VIA vt82c686b Revision: ISA 0x40 IDE 0x6 Highest DMA rate: UDMA100 BM-DMA base: 0xd000 PCI clock: 33.3MHz Master Read Cycle IRDY: 0ws Master Write Cycle IRDY: 0ws BM IDE Status Register Read Retry: yes Max DRDY Pulse Width: No limit -----------------------Primary IDE-------Secondary IDE------ Read DMA FIFO flush: yes yes End Sector FIFO flush: no no Prefetch Buffer: no no Post Write Buffer: no no Enabled: yes yes Simplex only: no no Cable Type: 80w 40w -------------------drive0----drive1----drive2----drive3----- Transfer Mode: UDMA UDMA PIO PIO Address Setup: 30ns 30ns 30ns 120ns Cmd Active: 90ns 90ns 90ns 90ns Cmd Recovery: 30ns 30ns 30ns 30ns Data Active: 90ns 90ns 90ns 330ns Data Recovery: 30ns 30ns 30ns 270ns Cycle Time: 60ns 60ns 120ns 600ns Transfer Rate: 33.3MB/s 33.3MB/s 16.6MB/s 3.3MB/s > lspci -vvxxx [...] 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 06) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- Latency: 32 Region 4: I/O ports at d000 [size=16] Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- 00: 06 11 71 05 07 00 90 02 06 8a 01 01 00 20 00 00 10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20: 01 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 30: 00 00 00 00 c0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff 00 00 00 40: 0b 02 09 35 1c 1c c0 00 a8 20 20 20 03 00 20 20 50: 03 07 e4 e4 34 00 00 00 a8 a8 a8 a8 00 00 00 00 60: 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 70: 02 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 80: 00 a0 77 07 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 a0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 b0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 c0: 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 d0: 06 00 71 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 f0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 [...] > hdparm -vi /dev/hda /dev/hda: multcount = 16 (on) I/O support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq = 1 (on) using_dma = 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) nowerr = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead = 8 (on) geometry = 2434/255/63, sectors = 39102336, start = 0 Model=WDC WD200EB-00CSF0, FwRev=04.01B04, SerialNo=WD-WMAAV2466224 Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed DTR>5Mbs FmtGapReq } RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=57600, SectSize=600, ECCbytes=40 BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16 CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=-66060037, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39102336 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120} PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 AdvancedPM=no Drive Supports : Reserved : ATA-1 ATA-2 ATA-3 ATA-4 ATA-5 > hdparm -vi /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: multcount = 16 (on) I/O support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq = 1 (on) using_dma = 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) nowerr = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead = 8 (on) geometry = 10011/255/63, sectors = 160836480, start = 0 Model=IC35L080AVVA07-0, FwRev=VA4OA50K, SerialNo=VNC402A4C6WUPA Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs } RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=52 BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1863kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16 CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=-66060037, LBA=yes, LBAsects=160836480 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120} PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 AdvancedPM=yes: disabled (255) Drive Supports : ATA/ATAPI-5 T13 1321D revision 1 : ATA-2 ATA-3 ATA-4 ATA-5 Kernel Drive Geometry LogicalCHS=10011/255/63 PhysicalCHS=159560/16/63

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Simple VIM question
by Greg Freemyer 31 May '02

31 May '02

I've been using vi for years, but vim is new to me. I just launched it with a dos formatted text file. It is nice enough to recognize that fact and handle it nicely. Is there a way to tell it to go ahead and get rid of the Carriage Returns and turn this into a UNIX format? Note, I know how to use tr to do this, so if there is not a vim command, I'll do it the old fashioned way. Thanks, Greg Freemyer Internet Engineer Deployment and Integration Specialist Compaq ASE - Tru64 Compaq Master ASE - SAN Architect The Norcross Group www.NorcrossGroup.com

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