May 2002 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

re: [SLE] Sendmail
by Greg Freemyer 31 May '02

31 May '02

Tom, Sendmail is unbelievable complex, but the below is how it is most commonly used: Sendmail accepts e-mails, looks at the address and forwards it to its destination. Normally 2 instances of sendmail are used with every e-mail that is sent. The first one is the one the sender is using as an SMTP server. i.e. I'm sure your ISP provided you an SMTP server name or IP. They are likely running sendmail on that machine. Once the first sendmail program gets the e-mail, it looks at the destination address and gets the matching MX record from DNS to figure out where to send the e-mail, and sends it off. Often, there is another instance of sendmail running at the destination as well. This copy receives the e-mail, looks at the destination address and says "That's me!!!", so it forwards it to the local POP mail box. == Since you are using your ISP to provide you with POP services, you don't need sendmail to act as a target, but that does not mean you don't need it to allow sending of e-mail. Quite often sendmail is run on the local machine purely to accept e-mail from local programs and forward the mail to wherever it needs to go. Greg >> What does sendmail do? >> WAIT! >> Before everyone shoots me a "it sends mail, stupid!" email, let me >> clarify. Do I need sendmail if I'm using evolution to access an email >> server from my ISP? I thought sendmail was something that was used if my >> machine was an email server. >> How far off am I? >> Tom >> -- >> To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >> For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com >> >> Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Greg Freemyer Internet Engineer Deployment and Integration Specialist Compaq ASE - Tru64 Compaq Master ASE - SAN Architect The Norcross Group www.NorcrossGroup.com

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Re: [SLE] SuSE to band together with Caldera, Turbolinux, and Con ectiva?
by Jerry Feldman 31 May '02

31 May '02

I don't really dispute your points, but there is still a need for systems to be produced at least in the major languages. Just on Great Britain, there are still several native languages (such as Welch). I would not like to have to categorize the native languages still spoken in Uzbekastan or many other countries. But, in air traffic control, English is spoken virtually the world over, and probably should be the language used for technical data processing. On 31 May 2002 at 13:55, Alex Daniloff wrote: > Now imagine the task of maintaining multi language documentation if > you don't know which of remaining languages will loose its edge next. > What are criteria for judgments about ability of particular language > to reflect highly technical information? What is probability that > sufficient number of its native speakers will remain in the nearest > future? > Do you really need this head ache? > The easiest way is to standardize all technical documentation in > English and don't bother with translations. Even if English will > vanish as a spoken language it still can be used as a computer > manual/programming language the same as Latin in medicine. -- Jerry Feldman Enterprise Systems Group Hewlett-Packard Company 200 Forest Street MRO1-3/F1 Marlboro, Ma. 01752 508-467-4315 http://www.testdrive.compaq.com/linux/

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Re: [suse-security] NSA SELinux
by JW 31 May '02

31 May '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 MM > > an >Roman Drahtmueller wrote: an >> Negative. You need the LSM patch MM > > in the kernel for that. <snip> MM > > Do you have any advise for those of us who are wanting to do this MM > > _now_, e.g. is there a SuSEified LSM patch alreday produced anywhere <snip> MM >I don't know if there are problems with SuSE running a vanilla kernel MM >patched with LSM. <snip> MM >I would like to know if there is a problem running a vanilla kernel not MM >patched by SuSE? I have not got as far as looking for myself yet (hope to inthe next day or so) but I'm wondering, is there some reason you can't apply the patches to the SuSE kernel? I intend to try, but if someone already knows that it's not possible, I'd appreciate the heads up. - -- - ---------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Wilson System Administrator Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE899Z+Q5u80xXOLBcRAkc2AJ9PeZN62QWvsAKQiOOi+YO3sDK8uQCeMlvV uTto5t4TVvu5I2qT/HgGpiY= =0aD3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Winmodem ... AGAIN?... need help
by Mojojojo 31 May '02

31 May '02

I know that winmodem is not "WELL" supported under linux. And I should be going to linmodem.org. But, what I want to know here is: HOW WELL the linmodem driver? Anybody using Linmodem driver with Conexant HSF modem? (I read on Linmodem, that conexant HSF is supported). Clue, Hint, or anything I should know before trying to put the linmodem driver for SuSE 8.0. Thank you...

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Re: [SLE] Update Yast2!
by James.Rocks＠equant.com 31 May '02

31 May '02

Hi Fred, > Hehehe...sorry. I don't know what dir it's on, as I d'l it via YOU. That's why I was interested ... my YOU doesn't work! I eventually went to an FTP site d/loaded all the patches and applied them ... still doesn't work though :-( James C. Rocks Equant Archway House Canary Wharf London E14 9SZ Phone: 0207-5226856 Fax: 0207-5126087 Mobile Phone: 07771-767405 http://www.equant.com This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient or an authorized representative of an intended recipient, you are prohibited from using, copying or distributing the information in this e-mail or its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you.

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8.0 Laptop Success Story
by Mojojojo 31 May '02

31 May '02

Hi all, I want to share my success story with ECS A-928 Pentium4 notebook. I successfully install SuSE 8.0. (http://www.ecs.com.tw) I only have 3 "problem": * sound card... detected, but not working * video card, looks great, but it run from frame buffer, no 3D * that damn winmodem..... more on other thread....

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Re: [SLE] must you Spam the list?
by Stuart Powell 31 May '02

31 May '02

Hello, Brian. If you search the archives, I think dep shared that info with the list some time ago. Should the Outlook users on the list begin filtering you out now, or would you rather we wait until you figure out how this works, so we can let you know as and when we can no longer read your posts ? Bye for now, Stuart. >>> "Brian W. Carver" <bwcarver(a)earthlink.net> 05/31/02 02:07PM >>> Actually, This is the first I've heard of this, and I think its great. I wish I knew how to make my messages unreadable in Outlook. Microsoft has spent so much time and effort excluding others from content due to not using their products, I'd thoroughly enjoy producing some content unreadable in their products for a change. <snip>

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Re: [SLE] TS Client
by Stuart Powell 31 May '02

31 May '02

Hello, James. As far as I know, there is no Linux RDP (i.e. native MS TS) client. I heard RDP4 had been reverse engineered by SCO, but don't know about RDP5. This is because of the agreement between MS and Citrix. However, the Citrix ICA client works wonderfully under Linux. We've actually been playing with it here for the past couple of weeks. The down side to this is that Citrix is not cheap, but if you use Linux clients, and are therefore not paying for MS client OS licences, it probably works out to be the same as MS TS. Don't hold me to these licensing issues though, I'm a techie, not a sales guy. Your local Citrix sales office should be able to help you. Bye for now, Stuart. >>> <James.Rocks(a)equant.com> 05/31/02 02:41PM >>> On a similar note to Steve's "Diskless Clients" post I wonder if there is any kind of program that runs as a an MS TS Client on a linux box? James <snip>

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Suggestion revisited
by Charles Griffin 31 May '02

31 May '02

In regards to the off-topic threads etc., may I restate a proposal I made previously? This list clearly has a long and wonderful history. I am a very new member of this list and a recent "convert" to SuSE. I have found excellent assistance on this list and have learned a lot simply by reading the thoughts and comments and suggestions of all the knowledgeable members of this list. However, with the growth of the number of users and posts on this mailing list (due in no small part, of course, to the continued success of SuSE Linux!) perhaps the time has come to consider switching from a mailing list to a web-based discussion board or forum such as the one that Gentoo Linux uses (http://forums.gentoo.org/) or the one that Mandrake uses (http://www.club-nihil.net/mub/). The Gentoo board is very new having switched from a mailing list format earlier this year. I mention this merely from an organizational standpoint. These discussion boards have several different categories in which to post messages -- such as "Installation," "Hardware," "Networking" and also an "OffTopic" section. When logging in to the boards, users can click on a "See New Messages" to be able to see a list of new thread topics since their last post if a users wants to stay abreast of all new posts. The discussion board can also be moderated and the moderators can move posts/threads to the appropriate sections if necessary, and can also close posts if appropriate. With this type of format, users could post all the messages they want about the "United Linux" and other similar off-topic threads without bothering those that don't choose to read them or otherwise filling up mailboxes with those posts. There could also be a "FAQ" or "Tips & Tricks" section for experienced users to post "How To" threads on various subjects or questions that frequently get asked. Anyway, just a suggestion. Thanks to all of those who have helped me and all the other newbies out there and have a great weekend everyone (for those who haven't started it already depending on your timezone!). :-) Best regards, Charles __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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TS Client
by James.Rocks＠equant.com 31 May '02

31 May '02

On a similar note to Steve's "Diskless Clients" post I wonder if there is any kind of program that runs as a an MS TS Client on a linux box? James James C. Rocks Equant Archway House Canary Wharf London E14 9SZ Phone: 0207-5226856 Fax: 0207-5126087 Mobile Phone: 07771-767405 http://www.equant.com This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient or an authorized representative of an intended recipient, you are prohibited from using, copying or distributing the information in this e-mail or its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you.

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