May 2001 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

unresolved symbol error messages
by scsijon 08 May '01

08 May '01

Hi, i'm trying to load a modified (not by me) generic ltmodem modem driver on my Dell I8000 but when checking by runnning depmod I get 2 unresolved symbol mssages. They are isapnp_devices and isapnp_present. Do I need to load something else first or do I just force it by using the -f flag on insmod? The modem itself is on a minipci board. regards and thanks in advance scsijon

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vmware 2.0.4
by Purple Shirt 08 May '01

08 May '01

So vmware came out with new version supposedly suitable for 2.4 kernel. I gave up last time and wanted to give it another shot. Well it gets further this time but still doesn't install on 7.1: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] The directory of kernel headers (version 2.4.2) does not match your running kernel (version 2.4.2-4GB). Consequently, even if the compilation of the module was successful, the module would not load into the running kernel. What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] This is the biggest problem with SuSE. They lack standards for what they do. If you go to the ftp site you have the kernel reside in directory "images" but if you go to the update directory the kernel suddenly resides in a directory called "kernel". Why would you not call it the same. Then the kernel in the 7.1 tree is newer than the kernel in the update directory tree. I have mentioned this like a hundred times that SuSE should fix how they do package updates but they ignore their users on this. (Why to hell is licq in n* directory, Gaim is in gnm* and kicq is in k2de*. What is SuSE trying to do??? Spread out all IM clients across all directories? Where you gonna put jabber? j*??? I realize that gaim is gnome utility and kicq a kde utility and licq is not tied to a wm but jesus you have licq compiled in with kde support so what prompted you to not put it into k2de*? I know it is compiled with kde support because it crashes all the time due to kde error. At least you could create a directory im* which contains links to all instant messenger related packages. But I guess we will wait years for a sane solution like that. The single biggest problem with SuSE is standards and wasting hours and hours on finding packages.) Ok so you may have found the kernel. I don't even bother compiling my kernel because it just is too confusing and my hardware is old. But for vmware you need the source. Why would SuSE not put the source (lx_suse) packages into the same directory as the binaries? No the sources are in d2 which makes maybe sense to a SuSE employee but not to a user which has to spend ten minutes scouring directories because they in the first place don't know that the package is called lx_suse. Would SuSE please move the lx_suse packages into the kernel/images directory where any sane person would put them??? Ok so you finally installed lx_suse24 from the 7.1 tree. Remember the kernel packages in the update tree are older. Now you figure vmware is ready to get done installing. But no SuSE calls its kernel 2.4.2-4Gb (ver 11) but it's kernel from source is 2.4.2 (SuSE-6)and vmware chokes. Man I am so sick of this non-standard bullshit. You spend like an hour scouring and trying to match up programs and end up with nothing. I know only partial blame lies with SuSE because they should name their kernel something normal and the other part is on VMware which should open source their stupid plexer and the other part is that I shouldn't get so hyped about something minor but it's frustrating. Yesterday it was java servlets and pdflib and today its the kernel compatibilities. God I need a break, mk _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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How is SuSe 7.1 compared to RH 7.1?
by Frank Rocco 08 May '01

08 May '01

Hello, I'm a newbie and just purchased SuSe 7.1 I was wondering if some experienced users could comment on the difference between SuSe and Redhat. Which one is better in terms of support and operation? Thanks, Frank Rocco St. Elizabeth Medical Center "In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe." - Carl Sagan

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strategy for backup using CD-RWs
by Richard Booth 08 May '01

08 May '01

Hi I want to backup my system using my cdwriter. What is the best way to backup using CD-RW's? Is it a case of backing up /etc /home? Then in the event of needing to restore, just using the distro CD's to get a working system then just copying the backed up /etc and /home? Thanks Rich -- Powered by SuSE Linux Richie Rich

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YAST2 Bug or feature
by Togan Muftuoglu 08 May '01

08 May '01

Hi, Now this could be a feature or bug yet I would like to get this to work the way I want to. I am using KDE with Country Turkey; Language English Charset iso8859-9. Now this way I can type and display the turkish characters properly. However YAST2 is just looking to the LANG of the environment I set in .bashrc and wants to display the menus in Turkish (although it is integrating to KDE it does use KDE settings). Is there a way to get YAST2 to work in English (or to follow the orders of KDE not .bashrc) If thre is not a way I do not consider this as a feature :( This is what I have in .bashrc # KDE wants LANG to be tr export LANG=tr # I want messages in English export LC_MESSAGES=en_US # Order of letters must be Turkish export LC_COLLATE=tr_TR.ISO-8859-9 #Sorting is better with C or POSIX export LC_CTYPE=C #time I can live with POSIX export LC_TIME=C export _XKB_CHARSET=iso8859-9 -- Togan Muftuoglu

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LILO or System Commander?
by Peter B. Van Campen 08 May '01

08 May '01

Has anyone on the list used System Commander Boot manager? I have user it but never with Linux. Best to all...................... PeterB -- =============================== Peter B.Van Campen Peter_B(a)vancampen.org =============================== -- <<Gnu is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX>>

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Help connecting to the internet.
by Ricardo Rodriguez 08 May '01

08 May '01

I just installed with no prob my new PCMCIA modem but Kinternet is disconnecting after handshaking. It gives error: "exit code 16" it says: "Dont know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best" Can someone please help me? ===== Ricardo A. Rodriguez www.RicardoRodriguez.net OKC, OK - USA Knowledge is power, and you are powerless without it!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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PCMCIA Modem: Viking RFMS56KPA
by Ricardo Rodriguez 08 May '01

08 May '01

works with out problems with 7.1 (Just FYI) ===== Ricardo A. Rodriguez www.RicardoRodriguez.net OKC, OK - USA Knowledge is power, and you are powerless without it!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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kernel
by Stefaans Mostert 08 May '01

08 May '01

Hi all I was wondering I want to install the newest kernel on my suse box 7.1 wich by the way I think is great( after I figured out /etc/rc.conf) But the suse way still confuses me slightly. What exactly would I need to upgrade my kernel? I am used to compiling from source, and would like to compile again if possible, as I am planning to switch some major servers over to suse. I am espetially conserned about the packages , like kernel headers and kernel utils and hdparm for my ide drives wich I use quite often. I am running the stock 2.4.0 kernel currently. Can someone also explain where I tell my system wich modules to use in modules.conf ? the suse version looks strange to me and I don't understand it. I am learing suse more each day and think I am a convert. ;-) I like it more and more. also there seems to be a problem with my live update in yast2 it doesn't want to finish and gives me an error message.BTW does anyone know of a mirror in South-Africa? Tnx all Stefaans

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Printer Woes Continue
by Jim Sabatke 08 May '01

08 May '01

First, I would like to thank all those who have tried to help me with my ongoing printer problem. Second, is there anyone at SuSE who can step me through debugging my printer problem? Once again, here are the symptoms: - I cannot print from the command line (lpr <filename>), or from programs. - When I try to print, I get a mail message stating: jim@yoda:~ > mail Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. "/var/mail/jim": 1 message 1 new >N 1 jim@yoda Mon May 7 17:56 14/485 "apsfilter: printer fault during job reply_of" & - When, as root, I cat a file to /dev/lp0, the file prints. - When I try to print a file, the light on my HP 4L flashes once before the print fails. This is driving me crazy. The printer was working after upgrading from 6.3 to 7.1. It stopped working around the time I did an auto-update from Yast 2. This is very important to me as I have lost my job and I need to generate resumes. Thanks in advance, -- Jim Sabatke SuSE 7.1 Linux Kernel - 2.4.0 http://www.execpc.com/~jsabatke Full many a gem of purest ray serene, The dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear; Full many a flower is born to blush unseen, And waste its sweetness on the desert air. --Thomas Gray

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