March 2001 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

This is really a frustrating time .... especially for newbies...
by Jerry Kreps 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Why? The kernel is upgrading from 2.2 to 2.4 So are the modules. Qt-1.x is upgrading to Qt-2.x KDE1 is upgrading to KDE2. Both Qt's are required if both desktops are used. Many apps are caught between libraries for Qt-1.x and Qt-2.x and some will run only on KDE1 while other only on KDE2. Many have stopped running on either. QCad, Quanta+, BibleTime, KDevelop and others. KOffice apps are lagging behind KDE2 development. Some of the old KDE and KDEvelop programmers burned out and retired from their respective projects and the new ones aren't up to speed yet. KDE and KDevelop improvments may slow down for a year or so. XF86server is upgrading from 3.x to 4.x and install tools are having problems. Netscape didn't fullfil its promise, but Konqueror is stepping in admirably. Many are not familiar with Konqueror, however. GNOME is in the middle of another propaganda campaign and a new 'direction', again, but aside from new skins every so often, nothing else I can see. Just as well. KParts increasing compatibility and programmers are learning that KDE is easier to program for. Corporations are fighting Linux with 'innovative' software patents, instead of innovative software. Lizard lawyers are filing patents for everything including the alphabet, even on prior art with more than 25 years of history and activity. The good news? It's beginning to come together! KDE2.1 is outstanding! While some older apps are having trouble keeping up with platform changes, many, many NEW KDE apps are appearing at SourceForge.net. Last count I heard was over 3,500 projects. The biggest losers? Those who let some of these momentary frustrations drive them back to the dark side. JLK

2 2

TV Card
by James Hatridge 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Hi All... I was given a TV card, but I have no idea who made it. There is no FCC number on it. But there is this number "P/N:PCB95103" Also on the chip is Bt878KHF 25878-12 C39100.2 9820 KOREA Any ideas? I'd like to find a manual for it. Also there is a large silver box on the card on this box is marked "NTSC USA". I'm guessing that this means that it's for the US TV system. If so, is it possible to use it in Europe? Thanks! -- Jim Hatridge Proud Linux User #88484 Owner -- beowulf-newbie list I didn't vote for his daddy either! Libertarian Party www.lp.org ------------------------------------------------------- BayerWulf Jim's Beowulf Project Looking for giveaway computers and parts Email Jim for details on how you can help build a poor man's super computer.

4 3

LFS with Reiser...
by Herman Knief 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Just got an install of 7.1 going, and maybe I am confused. I thought the new version of Reiser supported large file sizes (greater than 2 GB)? Am I mistaken, or is there something I need to do to enable this? - Herman

3 3

Re: [SLE] From where is YaST2/7.1 getting updates?
by Cory Steers 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

I too would like a better understanding of how this works. When the bind exploit came out back in January, I was confused and disappointed that YaST didn't update my version of bind. I had to manually download the rpm from ftp.suse.com and apply it. Cory -----Original Message----- From: hattons(a)bellatlantic.net [mailto:hattons@bellatlantic.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 10:00 PM To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] From where is YaST2/7.1 getting updates? On Tuesday 27 February 2001 22:22, Michael Hasenstein wrote: > "Steven T. Hatton" wrote: > > The answer may be right under my nose, but I'm not seeing it. If I go to > > the SuSE FTP site, I see packages which are fresher than what I got with > > the 7.1 distribution. If I tell YaST2 to update it finds some stuff, but > > not nearly as much as I see on the FTP site. This freshness issue is one > > good reason to understand where YaST2 is going for these updates. > > Another good reason is that it's dangerous to allow my computer go out > > connecting to servers I know nothing about. > > ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/7.1/ > > The patches/ sub-directory has the info files for the online update. Michael, Thanks for the answer. I still find this a bit confusing. If I browse through the FTP site you point to above I see many packages with newer version numbers than the ones I have installed. Nonetheless, these more recent packages do not show up in the list of package available for update when using YaST2. Can you explain this seeming inconsistency? Thanks, Steve -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

2 1

Need apache hint
by gerry＠dorfam.ca 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

I've been experimenting with apache and tried to do something I thought would be simple (as if anything with apache is simple!). All I want to do is require all users to log in using their id and passord when they first access apache. Once logged in I wanted them to have access without requiring additional authorization. I put the appropriate statements in httpd.conf in the apache root container and it worked. Everyone accessing the server sees a little box open and is required to enter their id and password to continue. However, it works too well. If a user then tries to access a link to the htdig directory that's symlinked from apache root they get another box popping up again requesting their id and password. I assume this is due to the symlink out of apache's root directory. How do I set this up so that a user is only asked once and not every time they go to a symlinked directory??? Gerry "The lyf so short, the craft so long to learne" Chaucer

2 1

Monitor goes off...
by Peter B. Van Campen 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Just rcvd 7.1 Prof. Started a fresh install with YAST2. Just after the point where YAST2 asks which brand and model of monitor (it found and identified my Elsa Office Winner 2000 8-Meg) (Viewsonic 17ps) it requested my choice of resolution and color depth I chose 1152 x 864 at 24 bits; YAST2 then put up a test screen which was ok,but off-center. I adjusted its position and size and entered a "OK". At that point the monitor went into standby mode. The system has remained active ( drive activity) but the monitor has not come back on; How can I recover this YAST2 installation? Thanks to all! .....................................Pete VC -- =============================== Peter B.Van Campen Peter_B(a)vancampen.org =============================== -- <<Gnu is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX>>

3 2

silly but is not working
by Landy Roman 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

trying to alias the ls command i put alias ls='ls -l' in .bashrc and it does not work any idea -- SuSe 7.0 Linux virtuoso 2.2.16 #1 Wed Aug 2 20:22:26 GMT 2000 i586 unknown

4 5

Disecting the corps - A postmortem.
by Jerry Kreps 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Thanks to those who offered suggests and encouragement, especially Kustas, whose pointer to an old email on another newsgroup gave the clue to getting the Zip100 going. How things fall over and died... 1) Trying to do an upgrade with YaST2 and having it hang at the ninth installation step. Struggling to regain control and getting the installation to finish. In 7.0 and 6.4 I had tried to use YaST2 on my machine and found it not able to do the job, even though at work I installed SUSE 6.4 with YaST2 and my fingers crossed. The box at work is newer than my home box and everything went beautifully. That's why, when 7.1 came out I figured that the soup had simmered long enough. Apparently not so for my machine. 2) Discoverying that SaX2 won't work well with a ps/2 mouse using gpm to get cut&paste. The mouse loses control. 3) Discoverying that SaX2, even after being poiinted to my video card and monitor, still can't install a stable Xserver with the XFree86 4.0 stuff. At least on my box. 4) Discoverying that YaST2 installed a 2.2.18 kernel and modules but a 2.4 source with no modules. 5) Discoverying that the standard kernel, have Iomega Zip100, scsi and ppa modules already compiled in, but they don't work. That is, unlike several of the kernels in previous releases, insmod ppa insmod lp didn't work. It gave numerous 'undefined xxxx' errors for both. ********************* Rising from the ashes ********************* The body was officially declared dead. It was time to trot out the first string offense - YaST1, 6) Using YaST1 I reformatted all my drives and installed 7.1 fresh. I used SaX instead of SaX2 to create my Xserver. Worked beautifully the first time, including gpm on my ps/2 mouse. 7) I noticed that the 2.2.18 kernel and modules were again "backed up" by the 2.4 source tree. Bad sign. 8) insmod ppa again failed with the same "undefined...." messages. 9) insmod lp wouldn't work if ppa didn't fire and load paraport. 10) several kernel recompiles, testing variations of switches, "demod -a", and rereading the zip mini-howto like a lawyer looking for a loop hole........ i.e. lost a couple of days... Thought about trying Campbell's ppa-1.4.2 driver but decided it would be a bad day if I couldn't install SuSE with just SuSE. 11) email from Kustas about an newsgroup diiscussion.... a clue! Revert to using parport_pc. I tried serveral combinations starting with parport_pc, which appeared to load ok, but I couldn't print and the zip drive, although it loaded, wouldn't read disks. Oh, I invoked the printer daemon by hand when I notice that it didn't load when parport_pc was fired. This led to an interesting problem where I could send test pages off to the "printer" but they wouldn't print, obviously. I used the printer manager to delete them. Then I tried to "rmmod lp" to remove it. "device is busy"... Reboot. 12) 7.1 seems to have reverted away from envoking paraport by ppa and returned to the old method of having paraport set things up so that parport_pc and ppa would run properly. Then the command "insmod lp" started working. 13) In modules.conf having: alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc options parport_pc io=0x378,0x278 irq=none,none didn't seem to help. Here is what worked: a) do the kernel setup exactly as the Zip=mini howto suggests. b) But, instead of the insmod sequence above do the following: insmod parport insmod parport_pc io=0x278 irq=5 insmod ppa insmod lp /opt/oss/soundon Now the above steps are theoretical, but since they worked when I entered them in that sequence manually, they should work during booting. Forcing the irq to 5 was important. I had to tell it to use lp1 and irq 5, unlike 7.0 and 6.4, which could figure it out without needing to be told. Note: Since alsa has never been able to work on my Yamaha sound chips I've always used OSS from 4Front technologies. I noticed at their website they now offer a single driver that works for both the 2.2.x and the 2.4.x kernels. And it has a fancy graphical install screen too. However, it didn't work (wouldn't recognize my license file) but when I fired 'soundconf' manually I got the old console screen and the install was flawless. Sound's familiar. Moral of my woes? A lesson I learned while getting my pilot's license. NEVER take off without going through the checklist. Translation: Things would have been a lot easier for me if I had read the manual about installation changes before I attempted to install. "There are old pilots. There are bold pilots. There are NO old, bold pilots" JLK

1 0

Toshiba questions....
by James Hatridge 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Hi all I've got a Toshiba Satellite 220CS. Can anyone tell how to get into the BIOS setup? Also I've been looking all over the 'net for the manual to it. Does anyone know where to find one, English or German is ok. Thanks! -- Jim Hatridge Proud Linux User #88484 Owner -- beowulf-newbie list I didn't vote for his daddy either! Libertarian Party www.lp.org ------------------------------------------------------- BayerWulf Jim's Beowulf Project Looking for giveaway computers and parts Email Jim for details on how you can help build a poor man's super computer.

4 4

Installing KDE 2.1 RPMs
by Thomas Long 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Are there any suggestions as to the best way to install the KDE 2.1 RPMs on a SuSE 7.1 box (for example, what order should they be installed, and what parameters to pass)? Also, there are a number "common" files in the "i18n" directory, all of which I've downloaded. Do all these need to be installed, as well? -Thomas Long long(a)billsoft.com -- Using Caldera OpenLinux 2.4

5 6