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RE: [SuSE Linux] To the Whiners on this list. Others pls
by WALKERSC＠CIBC.CA 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

What I get a kick out of, is, you answer a question on here, all of a sudden you get that person, plus all his friends emailing you, acting as if your there personal tech support line. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To the Whiners on this list. Others pls dis Author: "Ben Rosenberg" [SMTP:dragula@anet-stl.com] at BCEEXCH Date: 6/3/99 1:23 PM heh, Your such a funny guy .. this list is for discussion on the topic of suse .. not just configurations or hardware. People come here to get answers, express their opinions and the like. I have been very quiet on the kernel subject because it's as tired as a dead horse. I expressed "MY" opinion and have since stopped talking about it. My 6.1 in stall is fine. I updated everything by download the stuff at work and it's fast. Not everyone has redundant DS3's and 7 T1's at work ... I am glad I do :) Even though I was pissed off at first and I expressed this, I am not angry at all anymore .. and hell I just helped 5 more people this week at work to install SuSE 6.1 2.2.5 on their boxen. Also, I recommended it to about 10 other people and they bought it. One was a friend who was able to bring it into his workplace and the CEO replaced their netware server with it. They also installed it on 30 workstations replacing WinNT 4.0 ( they are a "MS Solutions" provider to boot ) .. and for being a little more then a newbie .. you should be so arrogant and rude as to call us "whiners". :P just my 0.10 Steve Pauly wrote: > > If you want to whine about something, do it off the list. Start a whiner's > club amounst yourselves and cc each other. Or maybe SuSE can start a > SuSE-linux-whiners-e list and just the whiners can subscribe. Or get on > usenet and whine. But whine the hell away from us. IOW, use the list > constructively. > > I think answers to most problems can be found in the HOWTO's and the very > fine SuSE published doc. It's time people realize they should do a little > more reading on their own, and that a $39 product may not have > instantaneous telephone or email support from the vendor. And this griping > about the 2.2.5 and 2.2.7 kernels. Geez louise, get with the program and > just ftp and install the dang thing. We should be happy that SuSE > employees are on this list; cut them some slack every once in a while. :-) > > Someone alluded to the apparent "explosion" of whiners. Is this just > mass hysteria? must be... > > But seriously, > > I'm certainly little more than a newbie myself, but I try to do this > before posting: > 0)Read the SuSE doc, and other UNIX and linux books,etc. > 1)search the SuSE site, especially looking at the list archives > 2)search Usenet using deja.com, etc. > 3)then the web using altavista, etc. > > If these techniques are mysterious to you, well... what can I say? > > Looking forward to a less noisy list. > > Steve. > -- Ben Rosenberg |---| <A HREF="mailto:dragula@anet-stl.com">mailto:dragula@anet-stl.com</A> "Workstation powered by SuSE LiNUX" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: initd(?) lockups with 5.3, 6.0, and 6.1
by kether＠smluc.org 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

unless i specifically said i upgraded the kernel, i didnt. the remote web server, the print server, and the masq gateway are all minimal 6.0 installs, with the stock kernels. was kinda my point, that i'd been getting similar problems accross different hardwares and different kernels...:) Rocky. On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Hubert Mantel wrote: > > Hi, > > On Wed, Jun 02, kether(a)smluc.org wrote: > > > Have been having many problems with our SuSE boxen that are not all > > identical, but i believe them to still be related. > > [severe problems even with init] > > > description: IBM PC Server 325, Dual-P2-300's, 64 meg RAM, 2 10/100 NIC > > ultra scsi, SuSE 6.0, upgraded from 5.3, Kernel 2.2.3, all SuSE 6.0 > > For some boxes you only write "SuSE 6.0", but don't mention the kernel > version. I assume you use some 2.2.x kernel on all of them. Right? > > Could you please downgrade one of the machines to kernel 2.0.36 and see if > the problem persists? I'm quite sure the problem is kernel related, but I > cannot confirm this sort of problem here. We have lots of machines running > 2.2.7 and 2.2.5. > > Our servers running 2.0.36 almost all have uptimes of more than 100 days. > > [...] > > > Rocky, > -o) > Hubert Mantel Goodbye, dots... /\\ > _\_v > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the > archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Dream System Banter
by rclark＠virgosolutions.demon.co.uk 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Recently in this thread, I made an offhand remark about Fred Miller pertaining to his strong preference for a particular computer hardware supplier. It was meant to be funny but instead it cast an unwarranted slur on his character. To the best of my knowledge, Fred Miller is an honest and upstanding individual with an untainted professional reputation. I apologise unreservedly for my earlier inappropriate remark. -- rclark(a)virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Ralph Clark, Virgo Solutions Ltd (UK) __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day* /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] initd(?) lockups with 5.3, 6.0, and 6.1
by kether＠smluc.org 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Have been having many problems with our SuSE boxen that are not all identical, but i believe them to still be related. This has been quite a problem, because my deployment of the linux systems was based mainly on the stability of linux, and all of these boxes have proven to be unstable. Problems appear as one of three types: Problem 1: initd "crashed", initd running at 99 initd and the bash shells running on the VCs died, could not kill initd with kill-9, could not change the init level, could not shutdown. Only processes showing on 'ps aux' were the initd, the bashs, and the kernel stuff. Only thing i've found to do is a hardware reset. Problem 2: when tried to reboot, it would say that it was going into runlevel 6, but then nothing would happen. could not manually change runlevels. no change with a 'kill -HUP'. only way out is a hardware reset. Problem 3: box stopped responding to telnet requests. would not respond to ftp, http, telnet, smtp. Everything appeared to be fine from the console. on the console, could not 'telnet localhost'. connection would be established, but would not log in syslog and would not present login. when this has happened on machines that are masq gateways , the masq seems to work without inturruption. Followed by Problem 2. Problem 4: box would be trucking along, with no seeming problem. Then type 'ps aux' and get 300-400 zombies listed. each program run would zombie on exit. could not kill-9 them. Followed by Problem 2. BOX 1: description: IBM PC Server 325, Dual-P2-300's, 64 meg RAM, 2 10/100 NIC ultra scsi, SuSE 6.0, upgraded from 5.3, Kernel 2.2.3, all SuSE 6.0 updates, all the package upgrades needed for 2.2.X problems: was running a remote X session and was hit with Problem #1 while on SuSE5.3, so upgraded to 6.0 and had the same thing happen. has had Problem #3 and #4 at least once, and always has Problem #2 if its been up a coupla days. BOX 2: description: Gateway G-450, P2-450, 128 meg RAM, 10/100 tulip card, ide, SuSE6.1, upgraded from 6.0, Kernel 2.2.9 problems: did fresh install of 6.0 to see if a fresh install would fix Problem #1. Had Problem #1, so i upgraded to 6.1 and again had Probelm #1. have also had Problem #2, #3, and #4 on this box. Problem #4 only happened after the 6.1 upgrade though. BOX 3: description: generic P2-333, 128 meg RAM, 10/100 tulip card, ide drive, SuSE 6.1 upgraded from 5.3 to 6.0, kernel 2.2.5 problems: Problem #2 is common and has occured on all three versions Problem #3 has occured with 6.0 and 6.1, and #4 has occured twice with 6.1 BOX 4: description: generic K62-350, 128 meg RAM, 10/100 tulip card, ide drive stock SuSE 6.0 problems: Problem #3 once. BOX 5: description: generic K62-350, 128 meg RAM, 10/100 tulip card, ide drive very minimal stock SuSE 6.0 install, acts as a masq gateway, http and informix server. generally runs at 0.02 load. problems: Problem #3 frequent (once a week or so). always followed by Problem #2. One weekend had Problem #3 and it cleared itself up after about 24 hours, still had Problem #2 when i went to reboot it the monday after. BOX 6: description: generic P75, 16 meg RAM, ne2000 card, ide drive, very minimal stock SuSE 6.0 install, remote webserver, very lightly hit. problems: Problem #3 has happened at least twice, both times it cleared itself up after 24 or so hours. have not tried a manual reboot. BOX 7: description: generic 486-25, 16 meg RAM, ne2000 card, ide drive, very minimal stock SuSE6.0 install, print server. problems: has Problem #2 everytime we've tried to reboot it. Me and one other person care for the linux boxen, and we have about 8 years linux experience between us, but we're both at a loss. Rocky, rocky(a)rbxinc.com kether(a)smluc.org -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 and PPP
by uwe＠uwix.alt.na 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Since I've updated from 5.3 to 6.0 I've got a problem with dialin PPP (not dialout!). My setup: +----------+ ethernet | | -----------------+ Box A +----------PPP (dialin!) | | +----------+ A runs quite some services. Amoung them, it is a PPP server with just one modem attached. The modem is for staff so they can dialin from home, get their mail,... The routing table is OK, the arp table has an entry for the ppp0 device pointing correctly to eth0. Since the upgrade to 6.0 packets from ppp0 aren't forwarded to eth0 any longer and vice versa. (checked it with tcpdump running on both devices) First I thought the vanilla kernel shipping with 6.0 might be compiled without forwarding/gatewaying enabled. Unfortunately, after having compiled the kernel myself the problem persists. :-( Is this a known problem? Maybe a bug *shudder* in that particular kernel (2.0.36)? Uwe ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uwe Thiem Tel: +264 - 061 - 244511 P.O.Box 30955 Fax: +264 - 061 - 244511 Windhoek Email: uwe(a)uwix.alt.na Republic of Namibia uwe(a)kde.org <A HREF="http://www.kde.org"><A HREF="http://www.kde.org</A">http://www.kde.org</A</A>> ********************************** You can still escape from the GATES of hell: Use KDE! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Setting up a autodial gateway...
by im＠hem.passagen.se 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

My desired setup: ISP <----> Linux <---> [hub]<-+--->Linux (rjhn) (SuSE) | +--->Linux (odessa) | +--->Win98 (nedra) IP's: Gateway : 192.168.0.1 rjhn : 192.168.0.2 odessa : 192.168.0.3 nedra : 192.168.0.4 How do I set it up? IP-MASQ etc.. Shall i run a cashing named? If so, how? I want ALL workstations to be able to connect to my ISP via ordinary v90 modem "atomagicaly" Time out: 1 min It shall firewall everyting but the usual, FTP, WWW, ICQ etc. ALL boxes must be able to utilise the connection even if another user has opened it. I want the ISP link to be "generic". Ie.. I want to be able to exchange the modem for a cablemodem, satelite link or whatever. Aslong as it connects to the Net. OBTW! I run SuSE 6.0 at the moment. Happy Hacking! /Rikard ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Rikard Johnels <im(a)hem.passagen.se> Date: 03-Jun-99 Time: 11:32:38 ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] SOHOware PCI Fast Ethernet Card
by jbodnar＠dev.tivoli.com 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Anybody using the SOHOware PCI Fast Ethernet card? I believe it is an NDC 4300-E. The SuSE hardware db list it's driver and support as unknown. --- Jason Bodnar + jbodnar(a)tivoli.com + Tivoli Systems [Another Normism ...] Nice cold beer coming up, Mr. Peterson. You mean, `Nice cold beer going down Mr. Peterson.' -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 /var/log/messages
by bse＠games.global.co.za 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Hello. I constantly get the following message in /var/log/messages The file is being archived every day because of the sheer amount of these messages (e-mail complaining about the size being +1024k). I don't know where they are coming from... How can I stop it, it seriously detracts from the task of perusing the logfile. Thanks! ---snip--- Jun 3 09:56:11 games mingetty[8163]: /dev/tty5: cannot open tty: Operation not supported by device Jun 3 09:56:11 games mingetty[8164]: /dev/tty6: cannot open tty: Operation not supported by device Jun 3 09:56:11 games mingetty[8165]: /dev/tty4: cannot open tty: Operation not supported by device Jun 3 09:56:11 games mingetty[8166]: /dev/tty5: cannot open tty: Operation not supported by device Jun 3 09:56:11 games mingetty[8167]: /dev/tty6: cannot open tty: Operation not supported by device Jun 3 09:56:11 games mingetty[8168]: /dev/tty4: cannot open tty: Operation not supported by device Jun 3 09:56:11 games mingetty[8169]: /dev/tty6: cannot open tty: Operation not supported by device ---snip--- Thanks! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Virtual Console
by paspartu＠uni.net 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Ciao, I need users to get stuck with the X window. I disabled the use of ctrl-alt-del with DontZap inserted into /etc/XF86Config. How do I disable the use of ctrl-alt-FN? Thanks, Maurizio -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Configure error message
by troy＠whadda.com 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Hi all, When I try to compile the enlightenment configuration program, I get the following error from configure right before it croaks. I've also had this error when trying to configure/compile Mahogany. Can anyone shed any light on it? I'm using the standard compiler that is installed with Suse 6.0, which I think is a version of egcs. Here's the error: <lots of stuff that looks okay here> checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables. Thanks very much, Troy Denkinger -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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