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[SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +432942355718
by tpcadmin＠info.tpc.int 11 Jan '99

11 Jan '99

**MESSAGE FROM THE TPC.INT SINKHOLE** We regret to inform you that the phone number you attempted to reach is not currently being served by a remote printer operator. Your original message is attached so that you may send it by alternative means. We hope to have coverage in this area -- perhaps you know somebody who could operate a remote printer server? Does your ISP provide fax coverage in your local area? If not, perhaps they would benefit by setting up a fax server and joining TPC.INT. Speak with your ISP and show them why they might want to come online as a TPC "cell": <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A">http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A</A>> It's possible of course that you have not composed the TPC.INT-style address correctly, so here's a few examples. Note that we do not use international dialing codes but we do require the country codes. Example1: remote-printer.Arlington_Hewes/Room_403(a)441813434622.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Arlington Hewes in Room 403, at the FAX number, in England (where the country code is 44), of +44 181 3434622) Example2: remote-printer.Paul_Katz/The_Manor(a)19025842817.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Paul Katz in The Manor at the FAX number, in North America (where the country code is 1) of +1 902 584 2817) If you're still unclear on the address format we require, please send for a copy of the FAQ, or visit our WWW pages. *****PLEASE NOTE******* TPC.INT does not consider unsolicited commercial mass mailings an acceptable use of the network. Individuals suspected of abusing this policy will be banned from using it pending investigation. We regret that such measures are necessary, but abuse of TPC.INT can force cells to close, and must be prevented when possible. Please be considerate - TPC.INT is for everyone. *********************** Regards, Mr. Arlington Hewes tpcadmin(a)info.tpc.int The TPC.INT Subdomain <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/</A">http://www.tpc.int/</A</A>> ************************************************** *** FOR GENERAL INFORMATION *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** FOR A LIST OF CURRENT COVERAGE *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** TO REPORT A PROBLEM (read the FAQ first!) *** *** <A HREF="mailto:support@info.tpc.int">mailto:support@info.tpc.int</A> *** ************************************************** </PRE> <PRE> **MESSAGE FROM THE TPC.INT SINKHOLE** We regret to inform you that the phone number you attempted to reach is not currently being served by a remote printer operator. Your original message is attached so that you may send it by alternative means. We hope to have coverage in this area -- perhaps you know somebody who could operate a remote printer server? Does your ISP provide fax coverage in your local area? If not, perhaps they would benefit by setting up a fax server and joining TPC.INT. Speak with your ISP and show them why they might want to come online as a TPC "cell": <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A">http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A</A>> It's possible of course that you have not composed the TPC.INT-style address correctly, so here's a few examples. Note that we do not use international dialing codes but we do require the country codes. Example1: remote-printer.Arlington_Hewes/Room_403(a)441813434622.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Arlington Hewes in Room 403, at the FAX number, in England (where the country code is 44), of +44 181 3434622) Example2: remote-printer.Paul_Katz/The_Manor(a)19025842817.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Paul Katz in The Manor at the FAX number, in North America (where the country code is 1) of +1 902 584 2817) If you're still unclear on the address format we require, please send for a copy of the FAQ, or visit our WWW pages. *****PLEASE NOTE******* TPC.INT does not consider unsolicited commercial mass mailings an acceptable use of the network. Individuals suspected of abusing this policy will be banned from using it pending investigation. We regret that such measures are necessary, but abuse of TPC.INT can force cells to close, and must be prevented when possible. Please be considerate - TPC.INT is for everyone. *********************** Regards, Mr. Arlington Hewes tpcadmin(a)info.tpc.int The TPC.INT Subdomain <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/</A">http://www.tpc.int/</A</A>> ************************************************** *** FOR GENERAL INFORMATION *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** FOR A LIST OF CURRENT COVERAGE *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** TO REPORT A PROBLEM (read the FAQ first!) *** *** <A HREF="mailto:support@info.tpc.int">mailto:support@info.tpc.int</A> *** ************************************************** </PRE> <PRE> **MESSAGE FROM THE TPC.INT SINKHOLE** We regret to inform you that the phone number you attempted to reach is not currently being served by a remote printer operator. Your original message is attached so that you may send it by alternative means. We hope to have coverage in this area -- perhaps you know somebody who could operate a remote printer server? Does your ISP provide fax coverage in your local area? If not, perhaps they would benefit by setting up a fax server and joining TPC.INT. Speak with your ISP and show them why they might want to come online as a TPC "cell": <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A">http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A</A>> It's possible of course that you have not composed the TPC.INT-style address correctly, so here's a few examples. Note that we do not use international dialing codes but we do require the country codes. Example1: remote-printer.Arlington_Hewes/Room_403(a)441813434622.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Arlington Hewes in Room 403, at the FAX number, in England (where the country code is 44), of +44 181 3434622) Example2: remote-printer.Paul_Katz/The_Manor(a)19025842817.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Paul Katz in The Manor at the FAX number, in North America (where the country code is 1) of +1 902 584 2817) If you're still unclear on the address format we require, please send for a copy of the FAQ, or visit our WWW pages. *****PLEASE NOTE******* TPC.INT does not consider unsolicited commercial mass mailings an acceptable use of the network. Individuals suspected of abusing this policy will be banned from using it pending investigation. We regret that such measures are necessary, but abuse of TPC.INT can force cells to close, and must be prevented when possible. Please be considerate - TPC.INT is for everyone. *********************** Regards, Mr. Arlington Hewes tpcadmin(a)info.tpc.int The TPC.INT Subdomain <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/</A">http://www.tpc.int/</A</A>> ************************************************** *** FOR GENERAL INFORMATION *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** FOR A LIST OF CURRENT COVERAGE *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** TO REPORT A PROBLEM (read the FAQ first!) *** *** <A HREF="mailto:support@info.tpc.int">mailto:support@info.tpc.int</A> *** ************************************************** </PRE> <PRE> Hi - Just thought I'd report that I've reported this prob with the list to the list admin. (I'm also curious to see how this message will get posted to the list.) I can't believe I'm the only one having this prob - yet I've seen no mention of it, though maybe mention is hidden within one of the innumerable messages all bearing the same title, not all of which I have investigated. --Kathy ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:53:23 GMT From: Kathy <kbilton(a)usa.net> To: majordomo-owner(a)suse.com Cc: kathy(a)fred.net Subject: suse-linux-e problems Hi - Almost all messages coming in from the suse-linux-e have the same title and appear to come from the same address. If you go a couple of pages down into a message, through all the junk at the top - you actually do get to a regular message, though with no indication of the email address of the person it's from. D 352 Jan 11 tpcadmin(a)info.tpc (7,289) [SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +4329423557 D 353 Jan 11 tpcadmin(a)info.tpc (13,229) [SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +4329423557 D 354 Jan 11 tpcadmin(a)info.tpc (9,836) [SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +4329423557 D 355 Jan 11 tpcadmin(a)info.tpc (12,066) [SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +4329423557 D 356 Jan 11 tpcadmin(a)info.tpc (12,976) [SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +4329423557 D 357 Jan 11 tpcadmin(a)info.tpc (9,498) [SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +4329423557 D 358 Jan 11 Cantera, Dave (3,385) RE: [SuSE Linux] Stock Quote Program 359 Jan 11 tpcadmin(a)info.tpc (8,470) [SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +4329423557 N 360 Jan 11 tpcadmin(a)info.tpc (20,740) [SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +4329423557 Here is portion of the junk at the top: Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:33:09 -0800 From: tpcadmin(a)info.tpc.int Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: [SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +432942355718 Parts/attachments: 1 Shown 61 lines Text 2.1 OK 61 lines Text 2.2 Shown 209 lines Text ---------------------------------------- **MESSAGE FROM THE TPC.INT SINKHOLE** We regret to inform you that the phone number you attempted to reach is not currently being served by a remote printer operator. Your original message is attached so that you may send it by alternative means. We hope to have coverage in this area -- perhaps you know somebody who could operate a remote printer server? Does your ISP provide fax coverage in your local area? If not, perhaps they would benefit by setting up a fax server and joining TPC.INT. Speak with your ISP and show them why they might want to come online as a TPC "cell": <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A">http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A</A>> Please fix!! --Kathy Bilton <A HREF="http://i.am/ready"><A HREF="http://i.am/ready</A">http://i.am/ready</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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No Subject
by vehrbohl＠get2net.dk 11 Jan '99

11 Jan '99

unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Sound Probs ... (I hope this conforms to the 'Mailling list get answered Specification')
by Surjit.Bains＠hsam.co.uk 11 Jan '99

11 Jan '99

===================================================== This message and any attachments to it are subject to copyright and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee. It may include information which is legally privileged and exempt from disclosure. If you receive this communication in error, please advise us immediately. ===================================================== Hi all, I am using SuSE Linux 5.3 on a pentium 75 (Pentium F0 0F bug workaround enabled) and 16 Megabytes of Ram (Toshiba Libretto 50CT Laptop)... I recently compiled a new Kernel to include sound support... with dmesg I can see the Sound initialisation suceeded or something like that. The problem I'm getting is when I do something like cat ping.wav > /dev/audio a sound is generated but it seems to be part of some 'White noise' any hints, tips, experiences, Drinking songs... Surjit - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +432942355718
by tpcadmin＠info.tpc.int 11 Jan '99

11 Jan '99

**MESSAGE FROM THE TPC.INT SINKHOLE** We regret to inform you that the phone number you attempted to reach is not currently being served by a remote printer operator. Your original message is attached so that you may send it by alternative means. We hope to have coverage in this area -- perhaps you know somebody who could operate a remote printer server? Does your ISP provide fax coverage in your local area? If not, perhaps they would benefit by setting up a fax server and joining TPC.INT. Speak with your ISP and show them why they might want to come online as a TPC "cell": <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A">http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A</A>> It's possible of course that you have not composed the TPC.INT-style address correctly, so here's a few examples. Note that we do not use international dialing codes but we do require the country codes. Example1: remote-printer.Arlington_Hewes/Room_403(a)441813434622.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Arlington Hewes in Room 403, at the FAX number, in England (where the country code is 44), of +44 181 3434622) Example2: remote-printer.Paul_Katz/The_Manor(a)19025842817.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Paul Katz in The Manor at the FAX number, in North America (where the country code is 1) of +1 902 584 2817) If you're still unclear on the address format we require, please send for a copy of the FAQ, or visit our WWW pages. *****PLEASE NOTE******* TPC.INT does not consider unsolicited commercial mass mailings an acceptable use of the network. Individuals suspected of abusing this policy will be banned from using it pending investigation. We regret that such measures are necessary, but abuse of TPC.INT can force cells to close, and must be prevented when possible. Please be considerate - TPC.INT is for everyone. *********************** Regards, Mr. Arlington Hewes tpcadmin(a)info.tpc.int The TPC.INT Subdomain <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/</A">http://www.tpc.int/</A</A>> ************************************************** *** FOR GENERAL INFORMATION *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** FOR A LIST OF CURRENT COVERAGE *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** TO REPORT A PROBLEM (read the FAQ first!) *** *** <A HREF="mailto:support@info.tpc.int">mailto:support@info.tpc.int</A> *** ************************************************** </PRE> <PRE> I'm sorry, the mailbox for listbox(a)jules.com is currently full. Please try again later. Thank you. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +432942355718
by tpcadmin＠info.tpc.int 11 Jan '99

11 Jan '99

**MESSAGE FROM THE TPC.INT SINKHOLE** We regret to inform you that the phone number you attempted to reach is not currently being served by a remote printer operator. Your original message is attached so that you may send it by alternative means. We hope to have coverage in this area -- perhaps you know somebody who could operate a remote printer server? Does your ISP provide fax coverage in your local area? If not, perhaps they would benefit by setting up a fax server and joining TPC.INT. Speak with your ISP and show them why they might want to come online as a TPC "cell": <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A">http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A</A>> It's possible of course that you have not composed the TPC.INT-style address correctly, so here's a few examples. Note that we do not use international dialing codes but we do require the country codes. Example1: remote-printer.Arlington_Hewes/Room_403(a)441813434622.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Arlington Hewes in Room 403, at the FAX number, in England (where the country code is 44), of +44 181 3434622) Example2: remote-printer.Paul_Katz/The_Manor(a)19025842817.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Paul Katz in The Manor at the FAX number, in North America (where the country code is 1) of +1 902 584 2817) If you're still unclear on the address format we require, please send for a copy of the FAQ, or visit our WWW pages. *****PLEASE NOTE******* TPC.INT does not consider unsolicited commercial mass mailings an acceptable use of the network. Individuals suspected of abusing this policy will be banned from using it pending investigation. We regret that such measures are necessary, but abuse of TPC.INT can force cells to close, and must be prevented when possible. Please be considerate - TPC.INT is for everyone. *********************** Regards, Mr. Arlington Hewes tpcadmin(a)info.tpc.int The TPC.INT Subdomain <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/</A">http://www.tpc.int/</A</A>> ************************************************** *** FOR GENERAL INFORMATION *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** FOR A LIST OF CURRENT COVERAGE *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** TO REPORT A PROBLEM (read the FAQ first!) *** *** <A HREF="mailto:support@info.tpc.int">mailto:support@info.tpc.int</A> *** ************************************************** </PRE> <PRE> I'm sorry, the mailbox for listbox(a)jules.com is currently full. Please try again later. Thank you. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] libtools and alsamixer
by i0100285＠ingstud.univ.trieste.it 11 Jan '99

11 Jan '99

> I just installed the alsa-driver for my Creative Ensoniq > soundcard (ES1371). It appears to have installed correctly, > and detects the card, but the output is muted by default > so I'm trying to install the alsamixer from the alsa-utils-0.0.8 > package. I need to install the alsa-libs first and apparently > need libtools to do so. Anyone have experience with compiling > alsa-utils or the alsa-libs-0.1.3.tar.gz package? > (kmixer (and my kscd player) from KDE Beta 4.0 got "broken" > somehow at sometime and since I've read that not all mixers work > with the alsa-driver I figure it makes more sense to spend my time > getting the alsa-utils installed.) yes..I 've installed all ALSA packages and all work fine..Yes, all is mute by default but you can unmute either with amixer or alsamixer or everything else.. Ciao, Alessio - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +432942355718
by postmaster＠jules.com 11 Jan '99

11 Jan '99

I'm sorry, the mailbox for listbox(a)jules.com is currently full. Please try again later. Thank you. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Eterm
by Leigh.Richardson＠seaforth-maritime.co.uk 11 Jan '99

11 Jan '99

Does any one use Eterm DR 0.8.7?? I'm having real problems installing it. It compiles okay but I still can't get it to run. Any ideas?? Leigh }:~( - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +432942355718
by tpcadmin＠info.tpc.int 11 Jan '99

11 Jan '99

**MESSAGE FROM THE TPC.INT SINKHOLE** We regret to inform you that the phone number you attempted to reach is not currently being served by a remote printer operator. Your original message is attached so that you may send it by alternative means. We hope to have coverage in this area -- perhaps you know somebody who could operate a remote printer server? Does your ISP provide fax coverage in your local area? If not, perhaps they would benefit by setting up a fax server and joining TPC.INT. Speak with your ISP and show them why they might want to come online as a TPC "cell": <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A">http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A</A>> It's possible of course that you have not composed the TPC.INT-style address correctly, so here's a few examples. Note that we do not use international dialing codes but we do require the country codes. Example1: remote-printer.Arlington_Hewes/Room_403(a)441813434622.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Arlington Hewes in Room 403, at the FAX number, in England (where the country code is 44), of +44 181 3434622) Example2: remote-printer.Paul_Katz/The_Manor(a)19025842817.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Paul Katz in The Manor at the FAX number, in North America (where the country code is 1) of +1 902 584 2817) If you're still unclear on the address format we require, please send for a copy of the FAQ, or visit our WWW pages. *****PLEASE NOTE******* TPC.INT does not consider unsolicited commercial mass mailings an acceptable use of the network. Individuals suspected of abusing this policy will be banned from using it pending investigation. We regret that such measures are necessary, but abuse of TPC.INT can force cells to close, and must be prevented when possible. Please be considerate - TPC.INT is for everyone. *********************** Regards, Mr. Arlington Hewes tpcadmin(a)info.tpc.int The TPC.INT Subdomain <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/</A">http://www.tpc.int/</A</A>> ************************************************** *** FOR GENERAL INFORMATION *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** FOR A LIST OF CURRENT COVERAGE *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** TO REPORT A PROBLEM (read the FAQ first!) *** *** <A HREF="mailto:support@info.tpc.int">mailto:support@info.tpc.int</A> *** ************************************************** </PRE> <PRE> I'm sorry, the mailbox for listbox(a)jules.com is currently full. Please try again later. Thank you. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Your FAX to +432942355718
by tpcadmin＠info.tpc.int 11 Jan '99

11 Jan '99

**MESSAGE FROM THE TPC.INT SINKHOLE** We regret to inform you that the phone number you attempted to reach is not currently being served by a remote printer operator. Your original message is attached so that you may send it by alternative means. We hope to have coverage in this area -- perhaps you know somebody who could operate a remote printer server? Does your ISP provide fax coverage in your local area? If not, perhaps they would benefit by setting up a fax server and joining TPC.INT. Speak with your ISP and show them why they might want to come online as a TPC "cell": <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A">http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A</A>> It's possible of course that you have not composed the TPC.INT-style address correctly, so here's a few examples. Note that we do not use international dialing codes but we do require the country codes. Example1: remote-printer.Arlington_Hewes/Room_403(a)441813434622.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Arlington Hewes in Room 403, at the FAX number, in England (where the country code is 44), of +44 181 3434622) Example2: remote-printer.Paul_Katz/The_Manor(a)19025842817.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Paul Katz in The Manor at the FAX number, in North America (where the country code is 1) of +1 902 584 2817) If you're still unclear on the address format we require, please send for a copy of the FAQ, or visit our WWW pages. *****PLEASE NOTE******* TPC.INT does not consider unsolicited commercial mass mailings an acceptable use of the network. Individuals suspected of abusing this policy will be banned from using it pending investigation. We regret that such measures are necessary, but abuse of TPC.INT can force cells to close, and must be prevented when possible. Please be considerate - TPC.INT is for everyone. *********************** Regards, Mr. Arlington Hewes tpcadmin(a)info.tpc.int The TPC.INT Subdomain <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/</A">http://www.tpc.int/</A</A>> ************************************************** *** FOR GENERAL INFORMATION *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** FOR A LIST OF CURRENT COVERAGE *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** TO REPORT A PROBLEM (read the FAQ first!) *** *** <A HREF="mailto:support@info.tpc.int">mailto:support@info.tpc.int</A> *** ************************************************** </PRE> <PRE> **MESSAGE FROM THE TPC.INT SINKHOLE** We regret to inform you that the phone number you attempted to reach is not currently being served by a remote printer operator. Your original message is attached so that you may send it by alternative means. We hope to have coverage in this area -- perhaps you know somebody who could operate a remote printer server? Does your ISP provide fax coverage in your local area? If not, perhaps they would benefit by setting up a fax server and joining TPC.INT. Speak with your ISP and show them why they might want to come online as a TPC "cell": <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A">http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A</A>> It's possible of course that you have not composed the TPC.INT-style address correctly, so here's a few examples. Note that we do not use international dialing codes but we do require the country codes. Example1: remote-printer.Arlington_Hewes/Room_403(a)441813434622.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Arlington Hewes in Room 403, at the FAX number, in England (where the country code is 44), of +44 181 3434622) Example2: remote-printer.Paul_Katz/The_Manor(a)19025842817.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Paul Katz in The Manor at the FAX number, in North America (where the country code is 1) of +1 902 584 2817) If you're still unclear on the address format we require, please send for a copy of the FAQ, or visit our WWW pages. *****PLEASE NOTE******* TPC.INT does not consider unsolicited commercial mass mailings an acceptable use of the network. Individuals suspected of abusing this policy will be banned from using it pending investigation. We regret that such measures are necessary, but abuse of TPC.INT can force cells to close, and must be prevented when possible. Please be considerate - TPC.INT is for everyone. *********************** Regards, Mr. Arlington Hewes tpcadmin(a)info.tpc.int The TPC.INT Subdomain <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/</A">http://www.tpc.int/</A</A>> ************************************************** *** FOR GENERAL INFORMATION *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** FOR A LIST OF CURRENT COVERAGE *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** TO REPORT A PROBLEM (read the FAQ first!) *** *** <A HREF="mailto:support@info.tpc.int">mailto:support@info.tpc.int</A> *** ************************************************** </PRE> <PRE> **MESSAGE FROM THE TPC.INT SINKHOLE** We regret to inform you that the phone number you attempted to reach is not currently being served by a remote printer operator. Your original message is attached so that you may send it by alternative means. We hope to have coverage in this area -- perhaps you know somebody who could operate a remote printer server? Does your ISP provide fax coverage in your local area? If not, perhaps they would benefit by setting up a fax server and joining TPC.INT. Speak with your ISP and show them why they might want to come online as a TPC "cell": <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A">http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A</A>> It's possible of course that you have not composed the TPC.INT-style address correctly, so here's a few examples. Note that we do not use international dialing codes but we do require the country codes. Example1: remote-printer.Arlington_Hewes/Room_403(a)441813434622.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Arlington Hewes in Room 403, at the FAX number, in England (where the country code is 44), of +44 181 3434622) Example2: remote-printer.Paul_Katz/The_Manor(a)19025842817.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Paul Katz in The Manor at the FAX number, in North America (where the country code is 1) of +1 902 584 2817) If you're still unclear on the address format we require, please send for a copy of the FAQ, or visit our WWW pages. *****PLEASE NOTE******* TPC.INT does not consider unsolicited commercial mass mailings an acceptable use of the network. Individuals suspected of abusing this policy will be banned from using it pending investigation. We regret that such measures are necessary, but abuse of TPC.INT can force cells to close, and must be prevented when possible. Please be considerate - TPC.INT is for everyone. *********************** Regards, Mr. Arlington Hewes tpcadmin(a)info.tpc.int The TPC.INT Subdomain <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/</A">http://www.tpc.int/</A</A>> ************************************************** *** FOR GENERAL INFORMATION *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** FOR A LIST OF CURRENT COVERAGE *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** TO REPORT A PROBLEM (read the FAQ first!) *** *** <A HREF="mailto:support@info.tpc.int">mailto:support@info.tpc.int</A> *** ************************************************** </PRE> <PRE> **MESSAGE FROM THE TPC.INT SINKHOLE** We regret to inform you that the phone number you attempted to reach is not currently being served by a remote printer operator. Your original message is attached so that you may send it by alternative means. We hope to have coverage in this area -- perhaps you know somebody who could operate a remote printer server? Does your ISP provide fax coverage in your local area? If not, perhaps they would benefit by setting up a fax server and joining TPC.INT. Speak with your ISP and show them why they might want to come online as a TPC "cell": <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A">http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A</A>> It's possible of course that you have not composed the TPC.INT-style address correctly, so here's a few examples. Note that we do not use international dialing codes but we do require the country codes. Example1: remote-printer.Arlington_Hewes/Room_403(a)441813434622.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Arlington Hewes in Room 403, at the FAX number, in England (where the country code is 44), of +44 181 3434622) Example2: remote-printer.Paul_Katz/The_Manor(a)19025842817.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Paul Katz in The Manor at the FAX number, in North America (where the country code is 1) of +1 902 584 2817) If you're still unclear on the address format we require, please send for a copy of the FAQ, or visit our WWW pages. *****PLEASE NOTE******* TPC.INT does not consider unsolicited commercial mass mailings an acceptable use of the network. Individuals suspected of abusing this policy will be banned from using it pending investigation. We regret that such measures are necessary, but abuse of TPC.INT can force cells to close, and must be prevented when possible. Please be considerate - TPC.INT is for everyone. *********************** Regards, Mr. Arlington Hewes tpcadmin(a)info.tpc.int The TPC.INT Subdomain <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/</A">http://www.tpc.int/</A</A>> ************************************************** *** FOR GENERAL INFORMATION *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** FOR A LIST OF CURRENT COVERAGE *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** TO REPORT A PROBLEM (read the FAQ first!) *** *** <A HREF="mailto:support@info.tpc.int">mailto:support@info.tpc.int</A> *** ************************************************** </PRE> <PRE> **MESSAGE FROM THE TPC.INT SINKHOLE** We regret to inform you that the phone number you attempted to reach is not currently being served by a remote printer operator. Your original message is attached so that you may send it by alternative means. We hope to have coverage in this area -- perhaps you know somebody who could operate a remote printer server? Does your ISP provide fax coverage in your local area? If not, perhaps they would benefit by setting up a fax server and joining TPC.INT. Speak with your ISP and show them why they might want to come online as a TPC "cell": <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A">http://www.tpc.int/servers/salespitch.html</A</A>> It's possible of course that you have not composed the TPC.INT-style address correctly, so here's a few examples. Note that we do not use international dialing codes but we do require the country codes. Example1: remote-printer.Arlington_Hewes/Room_403(a)441813434622.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Arlington Hewes in Room 403, at the FAX number, in England (where the country code is 44), of +44 181 3434622) Example2: remote-printer.Paul_Katz/The_Manor(a)19025842817.iddd.tpc.int (to send a fax to Paul Katz in The Manor at the FAX number, in North America (where the country code is 1) of +1 902 584 2817) If you're still unclear on the address format we require, please send for a copy of the FAQ, or visit our WWW pages. *****PLEASE NOTE******* TPC.INT does not consider unsolicited commercial mass mailings an acceptable use of the network. Individuals suspected of abusing this policy will be banned from using it pending investigation. We regret that such measures are necessary, but abuse of TPC.INT can force cells to close, and must be prevented when possible. Please be considerate - TPC.INT is for everyone. *********************** Regards, Mr. Arlington Hewes tpcadmin(a)info.tpc.int The TPC.INT Subdomain <A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/"><A HREF="http://www.tpc.int/</A">http://www.tpc.int/</A</A>> ************************************************** *** FOR GENERAL INFORMATION *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpcfaq@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** FOR A LIST OF CURRENT COVERAGE *** *** <A HREF="mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int">mailto:tpccover@info.tpc.int</A> *** *** TO REPORT A PROBLEM (read the FAQ first!) *** *** <A HREF="mailto:support@info.tpc.int">mailto:support@info.tpc.int</A> *** ************************************************** </PRE> <PRE> Kim, Everything I said in my brief response to this thread was true and you don't really deny any of it, you're just splitting hairs (badly) because you like to have the last word. Read on, then: Kim C. Callis wrote: > On 11-Jan-99 Ralph Clark wrote about the following Re: [SuSE Linux] > Problems with Swap : > || > || Vary interesting but I don't think it is relevant to the current > || discussion. > > Considering that I was the one who originally posted the "Problem with > Swap" topic, I am sure that is is relevant to the topic (only because I > say it is!). The commented text that you refer to was a clarification of > someone erroneous claim that swapping ability of Linux was an enhancement > by Linus. Considering that this is a _linux_ list and that the thread was about a _linux_ question, the sweeping generalisation you made about Unix could have been misleading to many people on the list who don't read the Linux Bible before every night before bed. My response was _to_ your erroneous posting in _context_ of the whole thread. I _did_ read the whole thread, and my posting was appropriate because _you_were_wrong_ to post a misleading statement. As for relevance being defined by you alone....is this the "suse_linux_kim_callis_e" list then? Actually it's not. A posting might belong to you in some sense even after it's in the public domain; however, a thread generated by several contributors is most certainly not yours. i.e. we all have as much right to determine what is relevant. > || Linux is unusual among Unix kernels in that its implementation owes > || absolutely > || _nothing_ to the original AT&T licenced code. That is why it is free. > > Actually, that is not unusual... If you take a look at NetBSD, FreeBSD and > BSD386, these are all free of AT&T code. Although BSD/386 has remnants of > original AT&T intellectual properties, hence BSD/386 moving on to become > what is now known as BSD/I. And if you really want to get specific, the > former two are also free of any BSD code which had AT&T restrictions on it. OK, so there's Minix, the Linux family of kernels and (some of) the BSD family of kernels - against all the proprietary kernels. It sure does look like these non-AT&T-derived kernels are very much in the minority doesn't it? So my statement about Linux being unusual is correct. I _didn't_ claim that it was unique. You just misread my posting. > || Linux was > || originally based on Andrew Tanenbaum's freeware OS called Minix (which > || was also > || developed independently of the AT&T code base), but I doubt if there's > || much of > || Minix left in the Linux kernel by now, and it's being tweaked more and > || more all > > The initial Filesystem code as well as character handling code was stolen > from Minix. The rest of the original kernel was written from the ground > up. You are right about that; thank you for the elaboration. > This is not based on memeory, but on actually playing with the source > code long before it started to get wide knowledge of its existance. Now you are just showing off. > || the time. I doubt if the archaic performance trade-offs present in > || traditional > || Unix kernels would be found in modern Linux kernels in any > || recognisable form. > > I am sure that is one takes the time to read an entire thread to make sure > that a follow-up response is apropos, then comments like the one below > wouldn't be made. Now you are just being rude. I did read it and IMHO my comment was apropos for the reasons stated herein. > Actually, if you want to go into detail, it wouldn't be > a question of AT&T code, since the enhancement was made at Berkeley. Until > the boys and girl at CSEG over at Berkeley made swapping available in a > BSD release, there was no ability by the Bell Labs version of UNIX to do > swapping. Your original comment was about the design of Unix by Ritchie et al in 1969. My posting was a response to that comment. I believe Ritchie was working for AT&T at that time, not Berkeley. Hence I refer to AT&T licenced code. > I normally don't get into a pissing contest on who knows the most arcana > about Linux, UNIX, or the effects of the Reagan doctrine on the > prolification of weapons of mass destruction. But I felt compelled to this > time. People who start flame wars often make some dumb comment like this. If you don't normally do it then why make an exception now? My posting wasn't attacking you, anybody or anything. I was just adding something to a factual statement that might have been misleading because you had placed it out of context.The fact is that you rudely tried to slap me down because in some minor way I dared to correct you, and I guess you are one of those people who just can't ever be wrong. > The realities are that this mailing list should serve to guide > people in the idiosyncracies of using S.u.S.E Linux. From time to time, we > tend to wax on subjects that may not necessarily pertain to S.u.S.E Linux. Fair enough. But it doesn't serve the users of the list to allow a misleading statement to pass uncorrected. > In the case below, I was clarifying someone's misconception of where swap > originated from. And I was clarifying your misleading clarification, lest anyone should wrongly think that implementation choices in the early Unices might have anything to do with current implementations of Linux. They don't. > This really wasn't an invitation to dispute what was > said, nor attempt to explain whether or not the response was germaine to > the topic. In a public forum, I don't need an invitation from you to do either of those things. I just can't believe you're saying that stuff! What arrogance! Regardless of what you may think of me personally, I really think you ought to apologise to the whole list for that. Ralph > > || > || Kim C. Callis wrote: > || > || > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > || > > || > On 09-Jan-99 Ec|ipse wrote about the following Re: [SuSE Linux] > || > Problems > || > with Swap : > || > || > || > || Kim C. Callis wrote: > || > || > > || > || > I have been having a devil of a time with getting any of my swap > || > || > space > || > || > addressed. Currently I have 128M of RAM and I had created a 128M > || > || > swap > || > || > partition > || > || > || > || The only real purpose of swap space is for a system that > || > || doesn't > || > || have > || > || alot of physical memory available. way back when linux was very > || > || becoming > || > || available, someone had asked Linus if there was a way to do this > || > || since > || > || he only had about 2mg of mem on his system and couldn't do > || > || anything > || > || really exciting with it. So along came swap space which made this > || > || possible. > || > > || > I am sure Dennis Ritchie and others would have something to say about > || > the > || > above. In reading Andrew Tannenbaum's "The Design of the UNIX > || > Operating > || > System", one would find that UNIX was originally optimized to be I/O > || > efficient and not CPU or physical RAM efficient. This is because when > || > UNIX > || > was created in 1969, it ran on a DEC PDP 11/45. This machine had a 16 > || > bit > || > addressing CPU (But kind of a hybrid like the 8088 which handled 16 > || > bnits > || > internally, but 8 bits externally, a whopping 40K of RAM and a whole > || > 1M of > || > disk space. > || > > || > So the initial design of UNIX was to make extensive use of swap space > || > (and > || > at that time it was truly swap space as opposed to the more efficent > || > paging), the original kernel took up 27k and that left 13k to run > || > various > || > utilities like a shell and ed. > || > > || > Thank you for tuning into this weeks episode of "30 Years of > || > Superiority > || > - -- The History of the UNIX Operating System, with your host Kim > || > Callis! :?) > || > > || > - --- > || > Kim C. Callis -- kcc(a)ziplink.net > || > ********************************* > || > * When it absolutely, * > || > * Positively has to be * > || > * Destroyed over night! * > || > * * > || > * (800) MARINES * > || > ********************************* > || > -- rclark(a)virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Ralph Clark, Virgo Solutions Ltd (UK) __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day* /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business! - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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