November 2010 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] Install openSUSE on unsupported storage medium?
by Jörg Faschingbauer 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Hi all, I recently managed to get a ServeRAID M1015 SAS/SATA Controller to work under kernel 2.6.34.7-12-default, by grabbing the driver source from Fedora 13 and compiling it. While this was a relatively simple task, I wonder what's the way to install openSUSE on a system that has no disks other than this controller. To put it another way: how can I add a storage driver before the installer goes out to probe for disks? It would be great if you could provide me with some links and hints on where to read on. For example: The bootloader presents me with the "F6" option to add a "Driver update medium"; I'm wondering what this is, and if this is the way. Is http://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/hvogel/Update-Media-HOWTO/index.html still up to date? I'm new to SUSE; Linux itself is well understood. Thanks in advance, Joerg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Re: 11.2_update & now: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)
by Linda Walsh 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Linda Walsh <suse(a)tlinx.org> [11-01-10 19:44]: > > Please, set your mail client to respond to the list. I read the list, is > where I saw your question. I *really* have NO need for duplicate emails. > Your attention to this will be appreciated. > > tks, Greg Freemyer wrote (to someone else having similar distress) > fyi: some of the opensuse developer / project lists are being opened > up to allow non-subscriber posts. The advantage is that if a topic > comes up that needs the input of a non-subscriber, then they can just > be added to the cc: line. > > The trouble is that for those lists reply-all needs to become the norm > for the to actually work correctly. > > I'm a proponent of the change, but I doubt it will make its way to the > end-user lists like this one anytime soon. > > > fyi: This is how the LKML lists have been for years and I think other > developer lists are similar, so many developers are used to that > behavior. On high volume mailing lists it also allows filters to be > setup to flag emails addressed to the subscriber as opposed to just > another list email. > > Greg > ---- What I find interesting is how someone takes the time to send an extra response, just about this topic. If they were going to actually continue the conversation, they could politely mention their preferences in their next response to the main chain as an addendum. But for people to go out of their way to make a point that has nothing to do with the topic is ridiculous, since if they aren't going to contribute any further to whatever is being discussed, then it's likely their wish would be granted by default. However, it appears that people who aren't contributing further, but simply want to make a point about their personal preferences and have a believe that they are important enough to have their personal preferences remembered (along with millions of other, naive internet users who expect everyone around them to remember and accommodate their wishes. Certainly it's far easier to filter out a redundant message than it is to read a message that you never receive. That's what sometimes happens to me -- people expect that I'll pay attention to a message that isn't addressed to me, but is sent to a group mailing list. I *may* see the message, but if I am busy, I may forget to look in the specific 'per-group' folder. If I do remember, by the time I do, it might be weeks later. Certainly, if I am speaking to someone, it makes more sense, in the general case, to make sure I direct my message to that person, and Cc: the wider audience so that others may chime in. The fact that some people are bothered by getting 2 messages only shows a lack of organization on their part. If/When I get two responses, my email filters look to see if the message was sent directly to me (vs. being sent through a mailer), and if so, puts it in my personal inbox. The one that some might call a duplicate (or the other way around), goes into a group-specific mailbox where I store only the messages for that group -- allowing me to only look at and read opensuse messages when I open my opensuse box. So I'd suggest to those who are upset by people who take a common sense toward email by sending email to the one spoken to (by default, modified by random chance remembering of their personal preferences) and filter out the copy they don't want. If they don't want to dedicate a mail folder for opensuse, but have small enough volume to have all email go into one Inbox, then they could have their mail processing software compare mail-user ID's and throw away duplicates. At least that would seem to be the most sensible approach, rather than expecting everyone to remember your personal preferences... *cheers* :-) linda to remember their personal preferences remembered. when it's likely that not even their name will be remembered the day after tomorrow. are really showing everyone their excessive egocentricity's level of intolerance and/or immaturity -- as though they believe that they are important enough to have their personal preferences memorized by everyone else -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] MozillaThunderbird-3.1.6-1.1.x86_64.rpm just stopped working??
by David C. Rankin 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Guys, Here is a strange one. A couple of days ago, tbird was updated to 3.1.6. Tonight - it crashed and the "We're Sorry" dialog appeared asking to send details to Mozilla (fine - I did, twice). The tbird would not restart -- at all. Same "We're Sorry" dialog. ps ax showed nothing tbird related running. Shutting down the desktop and restarting didn't fix it. Huh? I downgraded to 3.1.5 and all is good again. Anybody else see this or have any guesses what might have gone wrong? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] need help with simple Makefile - no rule to make target (huh?)
by David C. Rankin 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Guys, For the little programming I do, I always just type the gcc command for each file. But... I've got a project that was growing and it uses gsl for some file and not for others so I thought I would experiment with a basic Makefile. I'm talking *simple*. However, on my first go, I'm getting that darn: make: *** No rule to make target `tst_isolv.c', needed by `tst_isolv.o'. Stop. error. The 2 object makefile I'm experimenting with is: CC = gcc CFLAGS = -Wall -lm -lgsl -lgslcblas OBJECTS = isolv_state.o tst_isolv.o tstim : $(OBJECTS) $(CC) -o tstim $(OBJECTS) $(CFLAGS) isolv_state.o : isolv_state.c isolv_state.h $(CC) -c isolv_state.c tst_isolv.o : tst_isolv.c isolv_state.h $(CC) -c tst_isolv.c clean: rm -f tstim isolv_state.o tst_isolv.o All the files are in the current directory and yes the recipes are preceded by 'tab' characters: 22:50 alchemy:~/dev/prg/ccpp/lib/gsl> ls -1 isolv_state.c isolv_state.h isolv_state.o Makefile tst-isolv.c tst-isolv.o Running make gives: 22:54 alchemy:~/dev/prg/ccpp/lib/gsl> make make: *** No rule to make target `tst_isolv.c', needed by `tst_isolv.o'. Stop. Huh? Why is it looking for a target to make tst_isolv.c'? Why doesn't it just do what I told it to and use 'gcc -c tst_isolv.c'? I know the issue is some 'forest for the trees' thing that I'm completely missing... So help a brother out -- what's the trick? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] How to upgrade my kernel?
by James D. Parra 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Because I respect David's advice, and I've used zypper up in the past for routine upgrades of installed software. However, following my last post, I did fire up Yast, and sure enough, there were the kernel upgrades waiting for me. I installed them... Unfortunately, on rebooting the nvidia drivers (260.19.12) won't work with the new kernel, and the machine just boots to the command line, so I'm no better off. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you downloaded the NVidia driver you only need to rerun from the CLI. For example, as root run ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.12.run (or the package you used to install previously). You'll need to run 'init 3' first. Best, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] How to upgrade my kernel?
by Bob Williams 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Since upgrading my system back to 11.3 I am being plagued with the intermittent hangs that occur with the latest nvidia drivers. I have read that upgrading the kernel to 2.6.36 will cure these problems, but I'm unsure how to go about this. I've enabled the ../Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_11.3/ repository, which contains a number of packages relating to kernel 2.6.36-90.1, but I'm not sure which boxes to tick in YaST. My current kernel package is kernel-desktop 2.6.34-7 which is 129Mb, but all the component 2.3.36 packages are a lot smaller. Which ones do I need to get an equivalent setup here? Currently installed is: kernel-desktop kernel-desktop-devel kernel-devel kernel-source Many thanks, Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.2 64-bit, Kernel 2.6.31.14-0.4-desktop, KDE 4.5.2 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] inode exist - file does not
by Georg 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Hello, I have a strange problem. ls shows the file and its size etc, also stat gives me the inode number etc., but if I try to open it or use file to see what it is, I get "No such file or directory" Where should I look for the problem? tks 2.6.34-12-default #1 SMP 2010-06-29 02:39:08 +0200 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Speed (or lack) of 11.3
by Brad Shelton 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

I want my speed back. Am I going to have to go back to 11.0, or some other distro to get my system speed back? Since I've installed 11.3, everything is soooo sloooow. It's downright painful. Maybe I did something wrong. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] RE: Viewing HTML source
by Duaine Hechler 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

Found out anything yet ? Duaine Hechler wrote: > >> OK now that's odd, I presume you're using openSUSE and I presume you're using >> the openSUSE version of OOo. >> > > openSuse 11.1 and using the opensuse reps >> >>> Installed 3.0.0.9, did the above procedure. At first I thought it worked >>> however after I did a Save As and reopened the file, back to square one :'( >>> >> >> My apologies I missed one thing up there, when you do the paste do "Paste >> Special" > Unformatted Text then you get rid of all the legacy junk in behind >> >> >>> Something happened at least back to 3.0.0.9 >>> >>> How far back do I need to go to fix this >>> >>> Duaine >>> >> >> >> What happens when you open the file with a browser and go "View source" from >> there? >> >> > Everything looks fine ! >> If there is nothing particularly top secret about the documents, could you >> send me one of them so I can check it over for a bug. >> >> Cheers >> GL > > Attached is one of the files. I've been using OpenOffice for editing > html files since day one - since around 2002. > > Also, it seems, the view html source WAS working until it was moved > into the View options menu. > > Here are my websites: > > www.fvbbs.org > > www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com > > Good luck, > Duaine > -- > Duaine Hechler > Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ > Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding > Reed Organ Society Member > Florissant, MO 63034 > (314) 838-5587 > dahechler(a)att.net > www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com > -- > Home & Business user of Linux - 10 years -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding Reed Organ Society Member Florissant, MO 63034 (314) 838-5587 dahechler(a)att.net www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com -- Home & Business user of Linux - 10 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Embedded Spaces in Pathnames
by Lucky Leavell 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

I have been trying to figure this one out all week both at work (Red Hat) and at home (OpenSuSE). I have a script that walks all of the ext3 filesystems on a system and detects those files and directories with either no user or no group (or both) creating an output file using the -ls option on the find command. On files/directories with no user, I want to change the user to nobody and likewise for the group. I could run the initial script twice, once to detect unowned files and the other to detect unowned groups and handle each separately. However, on some systems we have terabyte filesystems with millions of files and a single find command can run for days. Thus I would like to take this initial file and use that to correct both problems. The problem I keep running into is with pathnames with embedded spaces. I have tried everything I can think of using shell scripts, awk and perl and they all have problems with pathnames with embedded spaces. Can anyone point me to some good articles that may be of some help? Thank you, Lucky Leavell -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Embedded Spaces in Pathnames
by Joachim Schrod 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

Carlos E. R. wrote: > On Friday, 2010-10-29 at 20:22 -0400, Lucky Leavell wrote: > >> On files/directories with no user, I want to change the user to nobody >> and likewise for the group. I could run the initial script twice, once >> to detect unowned files and the other to detect unowned groups and >> handle each separately. However, on some systems we have terabyte >> filesystems with millions of files and a single find command can run >> for days. Thus I would like to take this initial file and use that to >> correct both problems. >> >> The problem I keep running into is with pathnames with embedded >> spaces. I have tried everything I can think of using shell scripts, >> awk and perl and they all have problems with pathnames with embedded >> spaces. > > I simply write the names to a file, one file per line. Then a while loop > reads them, one by one: > > while read FILES ; do > WorkOn "$FILES" > done < $LISTOFFILES This works neither for files with spaces nor for files with newlines in them. The former can be solved by setting IFS. The latter can be solved by not using Shell, but Perl or Python. Actually, my preferred way to solve that problem would be to execute find2perl / -nouser -o -nogroup >no-user-group.pl and then edit no-user-group.pl to add appropriate chown and chgrp actions. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] ACL on EXT4 FS (Suse 11.2)
by James D. Parra 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

Hello, Although I see my ext4 file system is mounted with ACL, (rw,acl,user_xattr), I can't set ACL permissions. I read that a kernel module needs to added for ACL support on ext4. Could anyone provide any details on how I can accomplish that? Many thanks in advance. James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] 11.2_update & now: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)
by Linda Walsh 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

I'm having problems with a core dump in perl and thought to try updating my 11.2 dist w/the latest updates from the suse 11.2_update server, one of which was a minor update to perl. It didn't solve that problem, unfortunately, but it did create a new one for me: Bonus! (ARG!). Now I'm getting a warning spit out in various utils at frequent intervals, like in BASH, every time I use auto-complete (!): bash: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8) It also happens in other programs like when I launch gvim: (process:22785): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. Anyone know what broke and how I can fix it? My env vars haven't changed -- the lang vars are set to : # printenv | egrep 'LANG|LC' LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 I love UTF-8, but the implementation might have better given the acronym, 'UPF-8' for Universal _P_ain Format. *sigh* Help? Thanks... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] KWrite Enlarge text BUG
by Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

Hi, Using KWrite on 1.2 with KDE to edit a text file containing url's and there is no HTML formatting. When I start KWrite the font is very small i.e. about 6-8pt and may be as a result of the screen resolution. So I can see the text I am editing I enlarge the font with the inbuilt buttons. If I enlarge the font more than twice i.e. greater than say 14pt approx, some of the text in some of the rows of text in the document disappears i.e. the font colour turns to white. I am using the following( obtained from 'About KWrite': Version 4.3.5 (KDE 4.3.5) "release 0" Using KDE 4.3.5 (KDE 4.3.5) "release 0" I tried the same sort of editing on openSuSe 11.3 and the same error/bug happens with the vanilla install on openSuSe 11.3. I would assume, given it is happening to two different versions on two machines that I should raise a bugzilla report. My question is, where to raise it i.e. give me a web address. Alternatively what could I do to get around this error as both machines have the standard oss, non-oss and update repos? If a fix has been posted, why has it not been sent down the one of the three standard openSuSe repos? Regards Hylton P.S: If memory serves me correctly this error did not happen on earlier versions i.e. 11.0 -- ======================================================================== Lions Club member of http://www.fishhoeklionsclub.org.za as a part of Lions Clubs International which is the largest NGO in the world This Lion is using openSuSE Linux since 9.0 with KDE ======================================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] why is gsl 2 years old in opensuse?
by David C. Rankin 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

Guys, Why does 11.3 still have gsl 1.12? It came out in 2008. 1.14 is current which came out in 2010 - 4 months *before* opensuse 11.3 was released. I can understand being a couple of months out of date, but ... a couple of *years* out of date doesn't bode well for distro currency. Who is responsible for updating this type of stuff? A source install with ./configure --prefix-/usr is all that it takes. It might help keep packages current if opensuse had a field in the webpin results returned that said "Flag package as out of date" like they do with other distros just to help with the oversight of package currency. Something to help off-load the "check for new versions" off the devs. I feel sure the community would be glad to help. Then we could just run a query against the packages flagged out of date to see what needs to be brought current. P.S. gsl rocks. Beats the heck out of writing root finders from scratch :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] KDE4 konsole strange fonts and long startup time
by Istvan Gabor 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

Hello: I tried again KDE4. Installed KDE 4.5 factory on openSUSE 11.2. No to mention the general things I usually complain about I found something very strange: In konsole I set the font to Misc Console; in KDE4 konsole this font looks very strange and it is almost unreadable. It looks correct though in KDE3 konsole even in KDE4 session. Furthermore the startup time of KDE3 konsole is 2 seconds while the startup time of KDE4 konsole is 9 seconds (both in KDE 4 session). I find this startup time extremely long, especially compared to KDE3 konsole startup. How to fix these issues? Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Lightweight kiosk mode?
by Andrew Joakimsen 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

Is there some sort of "lightweight kiosk mode" I can enable in openSUSE? I have a server in my home without any GUI. What I would like to do is whenever the server boots up for it to start in runlevel 5 and not display a login screen or KDE or gnome but only show in full screen with no title bars menu bars, etc a single webpage. I would then output that to an RF modulator so I can see the output of the system anywhere in my home. This doesn't need any sort of interaction at all, except perhaps like a ctrl+alt+backspace to totally exit it and go it a console if I ever needed to repair something. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Apache2 default host using virtual hosts
by Oscar Curero 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

Hi, I'm trying to configure apache2 to use three virtual hosts. I want to use one of them (www.mydomain.com) as the "default server" to serve all the domains that don't match any of the virtual host defined. Using yast I created all the vhosts, I want to use: /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/ ...................................admin.mydomain.com.conf ...................................webmail.mydomain.com.conf ...................................www.mydomain.dom.conf ...................................vhost-ssl.template ...................................vhost.template According to the apache documentation, the default host is the first defined: "Now when a request arrives, the server will first check if it is using an IP address that matches the NameVirtualHost. If it is, then it will look at each <VirtualHost> section with a matching IP address and try to find one where the ServerName or ServerAlias matches the requested hostname. If it finds one, then it uses the configuration for that server. If no matching virtual host is found, then the first listed virtual host that matches the IP address will be used." In opensuse, each virtual host is defined in is own file, so the first defined host depends on the filename, but because yast choose the name based on the domain name, the first domain is "admin.mydomain.com" and not the one I want "www.mydomain.com". Just changing "www.mydomain.com.conf" to "1-www.mydomain.com.conf" makes apache to set the default name the domain I want (however, this is reverted each time I start yast). Is this normal or I'm being hitting by a bug? Thanks in advance! Cheers, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Disappearing CD/DVD ROM
by Bob Williams 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

Hi list, My CD/DVD drive has recently become only partially visible to applications. I use a Windows program, EAC (Exact Audio Copy) running under wine, to rip audio CDs, but it has recently stopped seeing my CD drive. I installed grip, to see if it was a wine problem, but this also can't read audio CDs in the drive. Well, it does very briefly as the drive gets mounted, in other words I see the list of tracks flash on and then off again. Grip can eject CDs, so the drive isn't completely invisible. On the other hand, smplayer plays an audio CD in the drive without a problem. I'm using openSUSE 11.2 with kernel 2.6.31.14-0.4-desktop, and KDE 4.5.2 release 10. I'm not sure when this problem started, as ripping CDs is only an occasional task, but it was definitely working OK on 5 October. Have the DRM people hacked my machine? Any suggestions, please? Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.2 64-bit, Kernel 2.6.31.14-0.4-desktop, KDE 4.5.2 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] wma and vlc
by lynn 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

Hi everyone I still can't play a wma file. In vlc the marker moves along as if it's playing but no sound emerges. mp3's play fine on just about everything so I'm sure the sound system os OK. Ive tried deleting the packman vlc and installing the videolan vlc but still the problems persist. Perhaps I'm missing something simple. 11.3 updated today. Thanks so much L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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