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[opensuse] Re: zypper: How to dist-upgrade specific packages?
by Joachim Schrod 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote: > Joachim Schrod pecked at the keyboard and wrote: >> >> What is the best method to dist-upgrade only some packages? >> > > I have not used this option, maybe it would fill the need using zypper: > > --non-interactive, -n Do not ask anything, use default answers > automatically. Sadly not. With zypper update, it would not work for architecture changes, as no questions are posed there. And for vendor changes, the default answer is "cancel". :-( But Anders provided the answer: zypper install is the way to go. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: zypper: How to dist-upgrade specific packages?
by Joachim Schrod 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

Constantinos Galilei wrote: > On Tuesday September 29 2009 6:19:46 am Joachim Schrod wrote: >> I discovered that for vendor changes, zypper install will do what I >> want. >> >> It won't do architecture changes (i686->i586), though. Any idea how >> to allow that? > > I don't think people are so far following what you're saying. I think I have > an idea, but tell me if I'm wrong. > > When you're doing an update of multiple packages, or merely repeating the same > update on multiple machines, you're asked over and over again about the > architecture changes for each package and you're hoping there's a way to > either do a sort of "yes to all" thing or specify beforehand to silence > certain messages and act as if "yes" was chosen, right? More or less. Only that it ain't just "yes", for architecture changes there won't be a question at all. The background, in more detail: -- "zypper update" without any package arg does not update packages that have vendor or architecture changes. -- "zypper list-update -a" lists packages that are available in a more current version, but with changed vendor and architecture attributes. I have a cron job that regularly checks that list and emails me unexpected entries in that list for manual consideration, if I want to update them by hand or if I add them to the list of known entries. -- I have several systems with identical software deployments. Updates are never only done on one system, but on all of them. I have a command that does that, it utilizes a package cache on a NFS file system to prevent multiple downloads. -- When one calls "zypper up <package>" and there is a vendor change, one will get asked if one wants to accept that vendor change. The answer to supply is always "1", since the first resolution is always the correct one. This question is asked for every package. In my use case, it is asked for every package on every system. Since I had to answer lots of questions this morning, that triggered my inquiry here on the list. -- When one calls "zypper up <package>" and there is an architecture change, nothing will happen at all. Actually, the resolver algorithm of "zypper dist-upgrade" is the thing that I want here. But this algorithm can't be used for single upgrades, only for whole repositories. That's the reason for my question "how to do dist-upgrades of specific packages". (Debian's apt-get dist-upgrade allows this, btw.) There are other use cases where this problem appears, too. E.g., if one wants to use a new repository and wants to select packages from that repository, not upgrading wholesale to all packages there. Then one also wants to dist-upgrade to these packages and their dependencies. (Then sometimes the output of "zypper dup -D -r repo_alias" comes handy to analyse the situation.) > If so, there's no simple way to do it. Luckily, there is. As Anders wrote, one can use zypper install to achieve what I want. Constructing the right arguments is easy. > There's nothing built in, so you'd > have to come up with a fancy shmancy shell script of some kind that watches > the output and responds. The script itself would not be a problem, but the answers are not read from stdin, AFAICS. And, as I wrote above, update won't pose any questions for architecture changes at all. I hope that makes my problem, the background, and the resolution clearer. Best, Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Tip-off about Thunderbird 3.0b in 11.2 MS7
by Basil Chupin 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

TB 3.0b has some new features. One of them is that when you right-click on a message and open it (in a new window) you still need to left-click on the X in the top-right corner to get out of the message (to go and read the next one or whatever). However, if you simply double-click on the message in the message folder, the message will open but it will have a TAB in the toolbar - much like the TAB in Firefox - which you close, using the X in the TAB - to exit the message. Clicking on the X in the top-right of the screen will simply close TB and take you to the Desktop. BC -- Never run yourself down - let other people do it instead. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Kernel 2.6.31 for openSUSE: which package to chose
by Malte Gell 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

Oh... before I make a mistake... I need kernel 2.6.31 for openSUSE 11.1, which package should I chose? There is this: download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/linux-next/openSUSE_11.1/ and this: download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_11.1/ The 1st one seems to be the kernel for the next SUSE version, what is the "HEAD" repo? Which should I chose for 2.6.31? Regards Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] No AppArmor any longer in future SuSE kernels?
by Malte Gell 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

Hi there, it is not important to me, I am just curious... I needed a 2.6.31 kernel and got it from download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/linux-next/openSUSE_11.1/ and I didn't see AppArmor there.... Has openSUSE abandoned AppArmor in favour of SELinux? Regards Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: zypper: How to dist-upgrade specific packages?
by Joachim Schrod 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

Anders Johansson wrote: > On Tuesday 29 September 2009 13:19:46 Joachim Schrod wrote: >> It won't do architecture changes (i686->i586), though. Any idea how >> to allow that? > > zypper in packagename.i586 Great! That's the solution I was looking for. Thanks a lot, Anders! Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] zypper: How to dist-upgrade specific packages?
by Joachim Schrod 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

Hi folks, What is the best method to dist-upgrade only some packages? My concrete case is that some Packman packages changed their vendor field. I'd like to dist-upgrade only these packages, i.e., to ignore the vendor change for them and to install/upgrade their dependencies if necessary. I do not want to do a full dist-upgrade to the whole Packman repository. If I call "zypper update package ..." I have to manually declare that vendor change for each and every package in the list. It is not possible to pass package names to dist-upgrade which would do the Right Thing. But I do not want to change all packages to the Packman repositories, just these few. Thus, how does one do that? This is on 11.1, btw. Thanks in advance for any answer, Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: zypper: How to dist-upgrade specific packages?
by Joachim Schrod 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

Joachim Schrod wrote: Hi, > What is the best method to dist-upgrade only some packages? > > My concrete case is that some Packman packages changed their vendor > field. I'd like to dist-upgrade only these packages, i.e., to > ignore the vendor change for them and to install/upgrade their > dependencies if necessary. I do not want to do a full dist-upgrade > to the whole Packman repository. > > If I call "zypper update package ..." I have to manually declare > that vendor change for each and every package in the list. I discovered that for vendor changes, zypper install will do what I want. It won't do architecture changes (i686->i586), though. Any idea how to allow that? Cheers, Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: the fundamental SuSE package management tools?
by Joachim Schrod 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

Per Jessen wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > >> with suse, so far, i'm working with "rpm" and "zypper". david >> rankin highly recommended installing "webpin" so, in a nutshell, what >> do people consider the must-have package management utilities for >> suse systems? thanks. > > rpm, zypper, yast. I'd consider http://software.opensuse.org/search (or webpin, as CLI for that) as more essential as yast -- otherwise one never knows where the needed package is in the maze of repositories called openSUSE Build Service. ;-) Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Mystery DVD
by Duaine & Laura Hechler 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

Someone tonight gave me a mystery CD/DVD - nothing seems to open it. It is supposed to be a movie / video. VLC won't open it. K3b says it is a blank DVD Although it clearly can be seen that something has been written to it. My guess is it was a copy from VHS tape to DVD and did not "finalize". What can be used to figure out what is on this disk ? Or is it now a coaster ? Thanks, Duaine -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding Reed Organ Society Member Florissant, MO 63034 (314) 838-5587 dahechler(a)att.net www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com -- Home & Business user of Linux - 10 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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