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[opensuse] Really clever... Was: Configuring Dual Head Mode on a laptop
by Simon Roberts 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

----- Original Message ---- From: Matthias Hopf <mhopf(a)suse.de> To: Simon Roberts <thorpflyer(a)yahoo.com> Cc: opensuse(a)opensuse.org Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 6:59:19 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Configuring Dual Head Mode on a laptop On Dec 04, 06 05:44:34 -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: > > problem I am having is with the resolution, my laptop is 1280X800(15.5 > > widescreen) and the second monitor is 1280x1024 (17inch). Currently I > > can only get them to run in the same resolution mode ... so I get a cut > > off screen if I go up to 1280x1024 or the second monitor looks > > compressed at 1280x800. > > > > Is their a way to have each monitor run at it's own resolution? > > How should that ever be possible, except for a real dualhead environment > (with different contents on both screens)? You're obviously running > clone mode. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > It seems to work for me "the other way round". That is, the external > monitor will run as a compressed version of the internal. I use > 1280x800 on the LCD and 1024x768 external, in clone mode. The external > is slightly compressed, naturally, but entirely readable (I use it for > projecting). I was pretty impressed by its cleverness, actually :) In that case both monitors are running the same image, i.e. the same resolution. The original question is how to display the same image in two different resolutions, which isn't possible (even theoretically). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually, that is exactly what mine does. Seriously. Not kidding. Main monitor (Laptop's own LCD) is running 1280x800, I think it's called wxga or something like that) but the clone output is set at 1024x768, and it is working, in that mode. It happily drives old monitors, and older LCD projectors (not things, so far as I can see, that are new enough to know about 1080i, or whatever "HDTV" standard might be relevant here". The downside is that it drops some pixels, obviously, we're squeezing a quart into a half-litre pot :) But it works, and the resolution/granularity, or whatever is entirely adequate for projection of overhead slides, and even to show folks what I'm doing on a command line. I don't know how it's doing it. I didn't know it wasn't supposed to (Sax2 just offered this out of the box) It might be responsible for the strange crashes I get on changing modes, but they existed long before I set up multi-head/clone mode It did it in 10.1 too. So, if it's not doing it, it's doing some darn clever impersonation of it. Oh, and more evidence that it really is 1024x768 on the external; before I set it up like that, the external displays failed, some jittering like hell, others complaining "sync out of range". So, maybe mine is magic, maybe it's just really tricky, but I hear what you're saying can't happen, and I know that you're heavily involved in this and your opinion is highly informed, but I'm looking at it happen :) Though of course, I also now know that this isn't what the original poster was describing anyway :) $0.02, Cheers, Simon ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Changing AutoLogin Setting
by Thomas Miller 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

Currently it is set to True and I would like to set it to false. How do I do this through KDE? or through a file setting? TIA -- Thomas Miller Chrome Portal Project Manager CPCUG Programmers SIG Chairperson (formally Delphi) Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork http://www.bss-software.com http://programmers.cpcug.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromeportal/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] rpm segfaulting
by Carlos E. R. 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, My rpm command segfaults when installing Mesa (and only that rpm that I know): nimrodel:~ # rpm --verbose --upgrade Mesa-6.4.2-19.12.i586.rpm Preparing packages for installation... Segmentation fault nimrodel:~ # rpm --verbose --checksig Mesa-6.4.2-19.12.i586.rpm Mesa-6.4.2-19.12.i586.rpm: Header SHA1 digest: OK (d1eadd125e0e7ee61a45bc7f57ca5039819ddece) MD5 digest: OK (fb27c05e81c827c8919022389d900b3a) V3 DSA signature: OK, key ID 9c800aca It doesn't say why it segfaults, so I thought I would install rpm-debug, thinking that it would produce a coredump, perhaps. But Yast complains (hand copied): This would invalidate atom:rpm-... | atom:rpm-4.4.2-43.4.i586 has unfulfilled requirements - Conflict Resolution O delete rpm delete atom: rpm-4.4.2-43.4.i586 Obviously, I can't delete that package without hossing my system. What do I do? - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFcV8rtTMYHG2NR9URAtSxAKCMr/lfFIr04HiGmXWhEIysBM9pWwCgkbTI 2VV9MD2sdkMbO+DqbqXU4hk= =K2mn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] Reminder: openSUSE status meeting 2006/12/06 18:00 CET (17:00 GMT)
by zoran korac 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

thanks for invitation, Zoran On Monday 04 December 2006 14:10, Martin Lasarsch Schreef: > Hi > > The next openSUSE status meeting will take place at the official > #opensuse-project IRC channel on freenode > (irc://irc.freenode.net/openSUSE-project) > this Wednesday at > > 2006/12/06 18:00 CET (17:00 GMT) > > This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around > openSUSE. Please add your topics to the meeting wiki page at: > > http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2006-12-06 > > as soon as possible. Also, if you cannot attend the meeting, but have > questions you want to see discussed, please add them to the meeting wiki > page as well. > > For general info about our IRC meetings read: > > http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About > > For a general technical introduction to IRC (Internet Relay Chat) > see http://www.irchelp.org/ (not affiliated with openSUSE) or enter "IRC > help" into your preferred search engine. > > The network we use is freenode - for more information on this, including > how to find a server, visit http://freenode.net/ (not affiliated with > openSUSE either). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Configuring Dual Head Mode on a laptop
by Simon Roberts 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

----- Original Message ---- From: Matthias Hopf <mhopf(a)suse.de> To: Rylan Cottrell <cottrell(a)cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Cc: opensuse(a)opensuse.org Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 6:39:53 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Configuring Dual Head Mode on a laptop On Nov 30, 06 10:01:44 -0700, Rylan Cottrell wrote: > I have dual head mode running on my hp dv4000 with the interl 915G. The > problem I am having is with the resolution, my laptop is 1280X800(15.5 > widescreen) and the second monitor is 1280x1024 (17inch). Currently I > can only get them to run in the same resolution mode ... so I get a cut > off screen if I go up to 1280x1024 or the second monitor looks > compressed at 1280x800. > > Is their a way to have each monitor run at it's own resolution? How should that ever be possible, except for a real dualhead environment (with different contents on both screens)? You're obviously running clone mode. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ It seems to work for me "the other way round". That is, the external monitor will run as a compressed version of the internal. I use 1280x800 on the LCD and 1024x768 external, in clone mode. The external is slightly compressed, naturally, but entirely readable (I use it for projecting). I was pretty impressed by its cleverness, actually :) Cheers, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] xorg.conf wanted!
by Simon Roberts 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

Many thanks, this got me going. (Still have some strange crash problems when changing video mode, but I can live with it for now) Cheers, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz ----- Original Message ---- From: Jonathan Horne <suse(a)dfwlp.com> To: opensuse(a)opensuse.org Sent: Friday, December 1, 2006 5:10:16 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] xorg.conf wanted! On Friday 01 December 2006 17:42, Simon Roberts wrote: > Hi all, > > Due to a suspected bug with 10.2 rc1 my xorg.conf file has unhelpful and > inappropriate (but approximately workable) entries describing my video > device. Specifically, while the hardware system believes that the card is > what it is (an Intel 945GM) and has installed (seemingly) the i810 driver > for XFree86, the xorg.conf file believes that I have a generic VESA device. > > This kinda works but kinda doesn't. Trouble is, I'm an itinerant trainer, > and I have to be able to drive an LCD projector from my external video > output. Well, right now, I'm working with 1024x768 logical "smushed" onto > what something else physical (it's kinda fuzzy, looking like there's > interpolation, extrapolation, and/or anti-aliasing going on). The biggest > problem is that the output is driving at a frequency that is preventing > most monitors and LCDs from locking to the signal properly, and SaX says I > have a "framebuffer" and can't change video modes! > > So, what I want to try to do is to manually replace (after backing up :) > the xorg.conf file with segments for the Device and Monitor elements (and > perhaps others?) that will get it to work properly with my card, so I can > configure the second output to 1024x768 at a sensible frequency that will > work for a "normal" external device. > > Can anyone offer me an xorg.conf from a machine that has this video chipset > please? > > TIA, > Simon > > BTW, this, clipped, from my hwinfo output > > Model: "Toshiba America Info 945 GM" > Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation" > Device: pci 0x27a2 "945 GM" > Driver Info #0: > XFree86 v4 Server Module: i810 > Driver Info #1: > XFree86 v4 Server Module: i810 > 3D Support: yes > Extensions: dri > > and this from my xorg.conf: > > Section "Monitor" > HorizSync 31-38 > Identifier "Monitor[0]" > ModelName "800X600@60HZ" > Option "DPMS" > VendorName "--> VESA" > VertRefresh 50-60 > UseModes "Modes[0]" > EndSection > > > Section "Modes" > Identifier "Modes[0]" > Modeline "800x600" 38.34 800 832 928 1024 600 604 608 624 -HSync > -VSync EndSection > > > Section "Device" > BoardName "Framebuffer Graphics" > BusID "0:2:0" > Driver "fbdev" > Identifier "Device[0]" > VendorName "VESA" > EndSection > > > > "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether > a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >_________ Cheap talk? > Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > http://voice.yahoo.com this from my opensuse system, on a i915 chipset. Section "Device" BoardName "915 G" BusID "0:2:0" Driver "i810" Identifier "Device[0]" Option "NoDDC" VendorName "Intel" EndSection the i810 driver is constantly being updated, and should support he i945 without problems. hth, jonathan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Call for Testing: blobAndConquer
by Dominique Leuenberger 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

Dear 'gamers', blobAndConquer was released in Version 0.7 these days. RPMs are available at http://software.opensuse.org/download/games:/action for SuSE 9.3 - 10.2 (i586 and x86_64). In some cases, I've seen that the text in the menues is missing (font rendered by truetype2), but not on others. I have seen this very rarely, but on these machines then at least it remains reproduciblie. To get it fixed, I'd like you to have a look in it and in case you see errors, send me a message about it, if possible containing as much information about your system as possible: - Used SuSE Version - Processor - Graphic card (what driver?) - X.org version And whatever else you might think about. thanks for testing! Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] xmms and mp3 - RC1
by Dominique Leuenberger 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

>>> Reply on 04-12-2006 11:34:18 <<< > On Monday 04 December 2006 00:07, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > >Just add this packman mirror to your installation sources : > > > > No, that would pull in a bunch of unnecessary packages. Until smart > > supports the "experimental" channel, it's deactivated. > > No it does not "pull in a bunch of unnecessary packages". > > Where did you get the impression that everything in a repository > is "pulled in"? > The thing is, that when you add Packman and then have an updater running, it starts to replace system libraries like alsa and the like.. and that I would call 'pull-in' as well. At this moment, I try to get packman out of my system again and I'll create some own packages when handy. But it's quiet difficult, as the requirements sometimes want to kill the whole system... and unfortunately, rug does not allow me to order it to install alsa and alsa-firmware from a sepcific repository, if this implies a downgrade of a package... sad, but true. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] grub doesnt boot my system anymore, caught in endless reboot loop
by Mathias Homann 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

Hallo, Hi, I'm in serious trouble here, can't get grub to boot my box anymore. Instead of showing the grub boot menu, it reboots. The story so far: because of the old 180gig seagate barracuda (scsi) dying, i got my box a new 147gig fujitsu MAW3147NP (also scsi). I shot down the box, connect the new disk as ID 1, fire up the rescue system from suse 10.0 installation media, and created a partition layout on the new disk, similar to what it was on the old one (except for a few size adjustments). Formatted the new partitions with mkfs.xfs, then used xfsdump |xfsrestore to get the data over to the new disk. After shutting down, i disconnected the old disk, configured the new one to ID0, booted the rescue system again, and chrooted into the installation on disk, and did a mount -a which worked just fine, so the partition layout agrees with my old /etc/fstab. Then, I fired up yast to write a boot sector to disk. That worked without error messages. Now, when i try to boot that box, all i get is a short message from grub flashing by which I cant quite read because its gone too fast, and then the box does a reboot. Any ideas what's wrong there? one fact to consider for solving: I don't really need to use grub here, lilo is ok with me too. another fact: when I boot the installation dvd, and go to "other -> start installed system" on the yast screen where you choose between fresh install and upgrade, the box comes up just fine (and after i installed the kernel rpm from the dvd, it even finds all needed modules and does its job like its supposed to be, just with the old kernel). mountpoints: celebrimbor:/boot/grub # cat /etc/fstab /dev/sda1 / xfs defaults 1 1 /dev/sda9 /export xfs defaults 1 2 /dev/sda7 /tmp xfs defaults 1 2 /dev/sda6 /var/log xfs defaults 1 2 /dev/sda8 /var/spool xfs defaults 1 2 /dev/sda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/dvd /media/dvd subfs noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy subfs noauto,fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync 0 0 fdisk -l: celebrimbor:/boot/grub # fdisk -l Platte /dev/sda: 147.0 GByte, 147086327808 Byte 255 KÃ¶pfe, 63 Sektoren/Spuren, 17882 Zylinder Einheiten = Zylinder von 16065 Ã 512 = 8225280 Bytes GerÃ¤t boot. Anfang Ende BlÃ¶cke Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 609 4891761 83 Linux /dev/sda2 610 17882 138745372+ 5 Erweiterte /dev/sda5 610 703 755023+ 82 Linux Swap / Solaris /dev/sda6 704 766 506016 83 Linux /dev/sda7 767 829 506016 83 Linux /dev/sda8 830 1438 4891761 83 Linux /dev/sda9 1439 17882 132086398+ 83 Linux /boot/grub/device.map: celebrimbor:/boot/grub # cat /boot/grub/device.map (fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/sda /boot/grub/menu.lst: celebrimbor:/boot/grub # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Do Nov 30 23:29:24 CET 2006 color white/blue black/light-gray default 0 timeout 8 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title SUSE LINUX 10.0 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 selinux=0 resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent showopts initrd /boot/initrd ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: floppy### title Diskette chainloader (fd0)+1 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe### title Failsafe -- SUSE LINUX 10.0 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume selinux=0 nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 edd=off 3 initrd /boot/initrd ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: 2.6.13-15-default### title 2.6.13-15-default root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.13-15-default root=/dev/sda1 selinux=0 resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent showopts initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.13-15-default celebrimbor:/boot/grub # bye, MH -- gpg key fingerprint: 5F64 4C92 9B77 DE37 D184 C5F9 B013 44E7 27BD 763C -- Die unaufgeforderte Zusendung einer Werbemail an Privatleute verstößt gegen §1 UWG und §823 I BGB (Beschluß des LG Berlin vom 2.8.1998 Az: 16 O 201/98). Jede kommerzielle Nutzung der übermittelten persönlichen Daten sowie deren Weitergabe an Dritte ist ausdrücklich untersagt! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Updating SUSE for CLI
by Chuck Payne 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

Hi, I need to know can I update SUSE 10.1 from the CLI, or do I have software update tool in the gui? -- -- Command, n.: Statement presented by a human and accepted by a computer in such a manner as to make the human feel as if he is in control. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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