August 2005 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

RE: Incremental move to SuSE 9.3
by Martin 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Hi experts, I'd like to ask for advice on how to ftp install SuSE 9.3 on my laptop where I currently have SuSE 8.2. What are the necessary steps I should folow? I do have 2 partitions where 2nd one I use just for data but can clean it up. My goal is to have both SuSE 8.2 and SuSE9.3 running so I can move data from SuSE 8.2 partition to SuSE9.3 partition slowly step by step and if anything goes wrong or I need to do something urgent and it does not work on SuSE9.3 yet I can reboot to SuSE8.2 and work till I figure it out. Thx, Martin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [SLE] Proposals for SUSE list managers
by MJang 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 16:19 -0700, Scott Leighton wrote: > On Sunday 31 July 2005 4:04 pm, MJang wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 14:27 -0700, Scott Leighton wrote: > > > > > > > Well, the FAQ is abundantly clear on the subject. It explains the > > > complete rationale. > > > > Dear Scott, > > > > Please reply to the list, that's what it is for, not to me directly. My mistake. But since you've taken the time to answer my questions personally, which I appreciate, I shall take the time to respond. > > > Please show me where. I've re-read the FAQ again. I see nothing w/r/t > > any analysis in comparison to Fedora or Debian lists. > > And why, pray tell, should SuSE or anyone else feel the need > to provide you with an analysis comparing the Fedora or Debian > lists to SuSE's list? I ask the users, not SUSE. I believe that anyone who understands the differences has a better chance to dominate the market. I do believe some SUSE users are interested in evangelizing this distro. > > Your very question is arrogrant. You do understand that > list admins get to run their lists however they choose right? I do, and I respect it. As I said before, I have no problem with the decision. > > > > > > > As to comparisions with Fedora or Debian > > > mail lists, that's apples and oranges given that they all have > > > different list administrators and the list administrator gets > > > to make these kinds of decisions. > > > > And on each list, the decision seems to have popular support. What is > > different about each community? I think it's more than just the > > arbitrary decisions of a list manager. I suspect it's related to the > > European bent of the SUSE list membership, but I think that's too > > simplistic. > > > I think you are jumping to a wrong conclusion assuming that list > decisions are/were made by popular support. While it is certainly > likely that SuSE took the opinions of subscribers into account > when it made its decisions on how to manage this list, I seriously > doubt they put it to a vote. You're probably right there. > > I also think you are reaching to characterize > the > the list admin's > decisions as 'arbitary'. The FAQs make it clear that some thought > was put behind the decisions that the list admin made regarding > this and the other listed subjects. Which gets to my question, with respect to SUSE users. > > > > > > I think the reason why people here seem to have trouble answering the > > question is that it's more sociological in nature. Yes, a bit OT, but > > who better to understand the differences between Linux users than Linux > > users? > > > > I don't see where anyone here has any trouble at all answering your > question, the trouble seems to be on your end. You simply don't like > the answers so you keep harping on the issue. The answers I get are w/r/t why the decision was made for the mailing list. It does not address (as far as I can tell) the sociological motivations of SUSE users. > > It's real simple, this subject has been visited many many times in > the past, the OWNER of the list has made a descision regarding > this issue and thats that. Don't like the decision, then go start > your own list. I do appreciate the decision and abide by it. But I think the userbase who understands the differences first has a much better chance to dominate the Linux marketplace. Once again, I thank you (and others here) for the time you've taken to consider my question. Thanks, Mike

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Re: [SLE] Grub problem
by Silviu Marin-Caea 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

On Monday 01 August 2005 15:38, you wrote: > If I change the hard disk setting it wondn't be a problem. I mean if I > change the jumpers the hard disk of suse will be a master and windows in > slave Yes, but firstly put back the Windows boot loader in MBR, like I have described earlier, or you'll still not be able to boot Windows. Choose "Repair" when the Windows CD prompts you.

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RE: [SLE] Grub problem
by Yahiaoui, A. 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Thank you for your replies. I have tried some options that you have described, but the problem is that I had 2 hard disk where the windows 2000 is installed in Mater and suse 9.2 installed in Slave. So I boot from hard disk, the GRUB word displays on the screen and then nothing happens To start Linux I should every time boot from floppies and select Installation then boot installed system But I tried several times to start windows I couldn't even with the bootable cd of windows Could someone please help me with ? your help will be very appreciated Regards and Thanks Azzedine -----Original Message----- From: Greg Wallace [mailto:jgregw@acsalaska.net]On Behalf Of Greg Wallace Sent: maandag 1 augustus 2005 4:52 To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: RE: [SLE] Grub problem I just wrote: >On Sunday, July 31, 2005 @ 5:50 PM, A Yahiaoui wrote: >>Dear all, >> >> >> >>I have installed suse pro 9.2 on my pc in which motherboard is asus p2B >>and I getting in starting Linux. When I switch on my pc, grub word >>displays and nothing then happens> >> >>I have even tried with Lilo, but I got the error after starting in form >>of L 99 99 ... >> >>I would be glad if you would like to help me to solve this problem. >> >>Thinking you in advance for your support >I have had that happen before and the problem was that Grub Stage 1 was not >installed in the MBR. There are two stages to GRUB, the first in the MBR of >your hard drive and the second is in your actual SuSE root partition. Now, >cutting to the chase, if that is the problem here as what you would need to >do. >1) Boot your system from the installation disk. You should see the same >screens you saw when you first installed, but at some point you will be >provided options such as (these may not be exact words) New Installation, >Boot Current System, ... Select Boot Current System. That should get you >booted up. Log in as root. Then, do the following >grub -- This should come back with a prompt grub> >find /boot/grub/stage1 -- You should get back something like (hd0,1) >root (hd0,1) -- Or whatever the prompt said >setup (hd0) -- You should get messages back saying stage 1 has been written. >Re-boot, without the Installation CD >Good luck, >Greg Wallace Damn. I hope this one doesn't wrap the steps I listed like the last message did (hard to read). Greg Wallace -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com

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french suse wiki
by jdd sur free 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

I'l proud to announce that Damian Smith build a french susewiki page for all the french speaking people (I know there are many here. You can find it at http://fr.susewiki.org It's not to be a translation of the english part, even if I will try to get in touch, but you are welcome to add your tips on it. I'm glad to say this here, because it was on this list that I know of Damian susewiki and could contact him for setting this french page. rule suse :-) jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr

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Grub problem
by Yahiaoui, A. 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Dear all, I have installed suse pro 9.2 on my pc in which motherboard is asus p2B and I getting in starting Linux. When I switch on my pc, grub word displays and nothing then happens> I have even tried with Lilo, but I got the error after starting in form of L 99 99 ... I would be glad if you would like to help me to solve this problem. Thinking you in advance for your support

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DVD Hardware Question
by Greg Wallace 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

I have a Windoze machine and a Linux machine running SuSE 8.1 Pro. I am looking to upgrading my SuSE system to 9.3 (I have all of the versions in between in the boxed sets). Both of these machines were originally Wndoze machines from Dell. The Linux box has a CD RW and the Windoze machine has a Samsung 332B CD RW DVD reader device. I want to swap them -- put the DVD reader device on the Linux machine and the CD reader on the Windoze machine. That way I can upgrade my SuSE with the DVDs. Do I have to worry about drivers, or will SuSE have some generic driver that will be able to read from this DVD device? Thanks, Greg Wallace

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