July 2005 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [SLE] Proposals for SUSE list managers
by Scott Leighton 31 Jul '05

31 Jul '05

On Sunday 31 July 2005 4:04 pm, MJang wrote: > On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 14:27 -0700, Scott Leighton wrote: > > > > Well, the FAQ is abundantly clear on the subject. It explains the > > complete rationale. > > Dear Scott, > Please reply to the list, that's what it is for, not to me directly. > Please show me where. I've re-read the FAQ again. I see nothing w/r/t > any analysis in comparison to Fedora or Debian lists. And why, pray tell, should SuSE or anyone else feel the need to provide you with an analysis comparing the Fedora or Debian lists to SuSE's list? Your very question is arrogrant. You do understand that list admins get to run their lists however they choose right? > > > As to comparisions with Fedora or Debian > > mail lists, that's apples and oranges given that they all have > > different list administrators and the list administrator gets > > to make these kinds of decisions. > > And on each list, the decision seems to have popular support. What is > different about each community? I think it's more than just the > arbitrary decisions of a list manager. I suspect it's related to the > European bent of the SUSE list membership, but I think that's too > simplistic. I think you are jumping to a wrong conclusion assuming that list decisions are/were made by popular support. While it is certainly likely that SuSE took the opinions of subscribers into account when it made its decisions on how to manage this list, I seriously doubt they put it to a vote. I also think you are reaching to characterize the list admin's decisions as 'arbitary'. The FAQs make it clear that some thought was put behind the decisions that the list admin made regarding this and the other listed subjects. > > I think the reason why people here seem to have trouble answering the > question is that it's more sociological in nature. Yes, a bit OT, but > who better to understand the differences between Linux users than Linux > users? > I don't see where anyone here has any trouble at all answering your question, the trouble seems to be on your end. You simply don't like the answers so you keep harping on the issue. It's real simple, this subject has been visited many many times in the past, the OWNER of the list has made a descision regarding this issue and thats that. Don't like the decision, then go start your own list. Scott > Thanks, > Mike -- POPFile, the OpenSource EMail Classifier http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Linux 2.6.11.4-21.7-default x86_64 SuSE Linux 9.3 (x86-64)

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Data recovery from a hard disk crash
by Chaitanya Krishna A 31 Jul '05

31 Jul '05

Hi, One of the hard disks on our cluster crashed a few days back. Some of the data on the disk hasn't been backed up. It's about a month's work. I Googled for data recovery software and found some stuff. I am mailing to ask the more experienced guys on the list as to what can be done. Any data recovery software that you guys suggest? It would be very helpful indeed if we can recover the data. Guys here are fleecing us to do the recovery. Regards, Chaitanya. ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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php files this time.
by Peter Nikolic 31 Jul '05

31 Jul '05

Hi folks once again Thanks for the rapid response last time Now i am trying to get Mozilla to understand php file but all that happens is i get asked what i want to do with the file i get the same response form Konqueror as far as i can see i have the php modules for apache2 well libphp4.so in /usr/lib/apache2-prefork once again what am i missing Pete . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:-------

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KDE 3.4.2
by Russ 31 Jul '05

31 Jul '05

I'm using SuSe 9.1 and I tried to install KDE 3.4.2 yesterday using Yast2. It tells me (dependencies) I need to delete several applications including sane, Scribus and several others. I did not get this with 3.4.1. Is there a way around this or is i tnecessary to update to 9.2 or 9.3 first. Thank you for any help! -- Russ

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Re: [SLE] Root passwd gone
by Chaitanya Krishna A 31 Jul '05

31 Jul '05

Hi, > >>Just in case you get any other rash urges to exercise commands like that in > Just remind yourself in future specifically to NEVER EVER exit a root shell > after some desastrous action. Believe me, sooner or later you WILL have > opportunity to use that advice. Use another terminal or ssh to verify that > you > have indeed rectified your mistake and can login as root. Sure. Ya, I have learnt my lesson. Thanks for the advice. I WILL not exit the root shell unitl I am sure that everything is Ok. > >>In that case you should be able to use the rescue cd to boot up, chroot to > >>your original system and then use passwd to give root a password. > > > > I did use the rescue CD. I don't understand this chroot thing. Can you > > elaborate on that a bit. > > When you boot the rescue CD the root volume "/" used is from the cd. So any > action you try to execute on /etc or /sbin will be executed on the cd files. > The > command chroot mounts another volume as the root volume. In this case you > need > to know which device on your hdd is the root volume, something like /dev/hda2 > or > /dev/sda3. > So, you boot the rescue CD and thus you are root. Then you execute "chroot > /dev/sd2" (or whatever YOUR root device is). Afterwards you have a running > root > shell and your normal filesystem is mounted. Then you should be able to run > any > root command you need. Ya, I did chroot to my filesystem on the hard disk. I booted in the Rescue mode. Then mounted my root partition /dev/sda1 to /new and chroot'd into /new and then gave passwd and gave a new passwd. It said passwd changed, but still no improvement. When I as user give su, it still gives the same error, i.e., $ su su: cannot set groups: Operation not permitted > > Ya I did make a backup. But then I think the harm has already been done to > the > > files before I made a backup. > > If you have only changed the file permissions then the damage is not really > significant. Many years ago I remember that I accidentally gzipped all the > files > in the /etc directory and I also panicked. Fortunately it was a test system > with > nothing installed yet. As I told in the first mail, I meddled with the passwd and shadow files before I made a backup. I deleted the x in root entry in /etc/passwd and made the root line look as root:::: in /etc/shadow. This I did from the rescue disk. Anything else that can be done? Regards, Chaitanya. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [SLE] Root passwd gone
by Chaitanya Krishna A 31 Jul '05

31 Jul '05

Hi, > > Hi, > > > > I forgot to mention something in the last mail. After giving > > # chown -R <username>: / > > cd'd to / and then gave an ls, I saw that only the permissions of /dev and > /bin > > were changed to the <username>. Therefore, > > > > I again gave > > # chown -R root:/ > > and then realised that it would change the permissions of /home, etc and > then I > > again Ctrl-C'd. > > Wow, another good one. Simply tell yourself that it will be a good learning > experience. (^-^) > Just in case you get any other rash urges to exercise commands like that in a > > panic: DON'T exit a root shell when you have just done something likely to > crash > the system. I usually think I don't panic, but I did. Got to improve. Next time if I do something dumb, I will not panic (at least try not to). > > Both /etc and /sbin are root:root set to (user:group) > > In that case you should be able to use the rescue cd to boot up, chroot to > your > original system and then use passwd to give root a password. I did use the rescue CD. I don't understand this chroot thing. Can you elaborate on that a bit. > PS: if you still feel adventurous and decide to experiment with files like > passwd manually, you might want to make a BACKUP of it first! Ya I did make a backup. But then I think the harm has already been done to the files before I made a backup. Regards, Chaitanya. ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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SUSE Watcher unable to connect
by Glenn Holmer 31 Jul '05

31 Jul '05

I just did a fresh install of 9.3 on a machine at work, and when SUSE Watcher does its automatic check for new updates, it puts up a dialog saying it couldn't connect. But if I run the updates manually, it works fine. Where to look for clues about what is going wrong? -- ====================================================== Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) ====================================================== "Greater coherence cannot be achieved. Not even the Netherlanders have managed this." -Anton Webern ======================================================

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python bindings missing qscintilla on SuSE 9.2
by jalal 31 Jul '05

31 Jul '05

Just ran the upgrade to KDE 3.4.2 and it all went smoothly. Except kdebindings3-python won't update because of a missing libqscintilla. Anyone seen one lying around? Can I use the 9.3 package? TIA

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Problems with Firewire disk in SuSE 9.3
by Andre Truter 31 Jul '05

31 Jul '05

I have an external disk unit that supports Firewire and USB, formatted with ext3. When I use the USB cable, my SuSE 9.3 laptop detects the drive and mounts it. But, when I use Firewire, it gives me various problems. At first it would not detect the disk at all. Then I booted the machine with Knoppix live CD and it detected and mounted the disk without any problems. I rebooted the machine with the disk connected and this time SuSE detected the disk, but failed to see the partition, so no device was created Then I switced the disk off and on again and then SuSE detected the disk and the partition and tried to mount it, but the mount failed. Any idea what the problem could be? I googled, but did not find any answers. Following are related messages in log file: --<snip>-- Jul 30 19:02:35 asterix kernel: ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023 Jul 30 19:02:35 asterix kernel: ieee1394: Node suspended: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[0050770e00071002] Jul 30 19:02:41 asterix kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-01:1023 Jul 30 19:02:41 asterix kernel: ieee1394: The root node is not cycle master capable; selecting a new root node and resetting... Jul 30 19:02:43 asterix kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023 Jul 30 19:02:43 asterix kernel: ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 Jul 30 19:02:49 asterix kernel: ieee1394: Node resumed: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[0050770e00071002] Jul 30 19:02:49 asterix kernel: ieee1394: unsolicited response packet received - no tlabel match Jul 30 19:02:49 asterix kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for IEEE-1394 SBP-2 Devices Jul 30 19:02:50 asterix kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: Logged into SBP-2 device Jul 30 19:02:50 asterix kernel: ieee1394: Node 0-00:1023: Max speed [S400] - Max payload [2048] Jul 30 19:02:50 asterix kernel: Vendor: WDC WD20 Model: 00JB-00GVA0 Rev: Jul 30 19:02:50 asterix kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 06 Jul 30 19:02:50 asterix kernel: SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB) Jul 30 19:02:50 asterix kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write through Jul 30 19:02:50 asterix kernel: SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB) Jul 30 19:02:50 asterix kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write through Jul 30 19:02:50 asterix kernel: sda: sda1 Jul 30 19:02:50 asterix kernel: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Jul 30 19:02:50 asterix kernel: Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, type 0 Jul 30 19:02:51 asterix /etc/hotplug.d/block/50-hwscan.hotplug[9945]: new block device /block/sda Jul 30 19:02:51 asterix /etc/hotplug.d/block/50-hwscan.hotplug[10016]: new block device /block/sda/sda1 Jul 30 19:02:51 asterix kernel: subfs 0.9 Jul 30 19:02:51 asterix hal-subfs-mount[10031]: registered at resmgrd and called(0) /bin/mount -t subfs -o fs=ext3,sync,nosuid,nodev,exec /dev/sda1 "/media/ieee1394disk" Jul 30 19:02:55 asterix submountd: mount failure, Invalid argument Jul 30 19:02:55 asterix kernel: VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sda1. Jul 30 19:02:55 asterix kernel: subfs: unsuccessful attempt to mount media (256) Jul 30 19:02:55 asterix hal.hotplug[10053]: DEVPATH is not set Jul 30 19:02:56 asterix submountd: mount failure, Invalid argument Jul 30 19:02:56 asterix kernel: VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sda1. Jul 30 19:02:56 asterix kernel: subfs: unsuccessful attempt to mount media (256) Jul 30 19:02:56 asterix submountd: mount failure, Invalid argument --<snip>-- Thanks -- Andre Truter | Software Engineer | Registered Linux user #185282 ICQ #40935899 | AIM: trusoftzaf | http://www.trusoft.za.org ~ A dinosaur is a salamander designed to Mil Spec ~

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Choppy sound in 9.3 wiht SB Live24
by Clayton 31 Jul '05

31 Jul '05

OK, I'm running out of ideas. I've been trying to figure out why I get choppy sound in some multimedia (but not all) when I play via my SoundBlaster Live24. (OS = fully updated SuSE9.3) I have and onboard AC/97 sound card. Sound from all media plays fine if I use the onboard sound card (using any media player... MPlayer, Realplayer etc.) If I switch over to my SB Live24 sound plays fine from some media, and others it's so choppy you can't listen to it. I have done a lot of Googling to try and find a solution... based on what I found it seems that it could be related to ACPI... so here's a few things I did to try and clear it up.... - with ACPI on, if I do a rcpowersaved stop, I get about a 75% improvement in sound quality (less choppy sound but still bad enough you can't use it). - with ACPI=off on boot, I still get the same choppy sound as with it on. Doing an rcpowersaved stop has a marginal effect, but nowhere near as much as when ACPI is on. Seems kind of odd to me, but that's what happens. - I've removed ACPI related packages, but that had no effect on the choppy sound. Through all of this, my onboard AC/97 works the same... it works with no choppy sound. I don't want to use my AC/97 as my main sound - I'd like to reserve that for my VoIP. I really woudl like to solve this, but am out of ideas for what could be the root cause of my choppy sound issue. Anyone have any ideas at all here? Anything I could try? C

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