May 2005 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

kernel: martian source
by Marko 21 May '05

21 May '05

Hi all, I have a problem when i connect on my isdn ippp0 and ifup my eth0. The connection breaks and all i get in the logs is: May 21 19:07:53 marko kernel: martian source 155.239.84.218 from 155.239.88.113, on dev ippp0 May 21 19:07:53 marko kernel: ll header: 45:00:00:30:b3:6c:40:00:7b:06:67:31:9b:ef:58:71:9b:ef May 21 19:07:56 marko kernel: martian source 155.239.84.218 from 155.239.88.113, on dev ippp0 May 21 19:07:56 marko kernel: ll header: 45:00:00:30:b4:20:40:00:7b:06:66:7d:9b:ef:58:71:9b:ef May 21 19:08:30 marko kernel: martian source 155.239.84.218 from 213.95.27.115, on dev ippp0 May 21 19:08:30 marko kernel: ll header: 45:40:05:dc:ea:53:40:00:31:06:77:ec:d5:5f:1b:73:9b:ef May 21 19:08:36 marko kernel: martian source 155.239.84.218 from 155.239.136.234, on dev ippp0 As soon as i bring my eth0 down everything works again. Messages stop and the connection becomes active. Please help me out someone cause im really getting frustrated with it now. It's got nothing to do with the other pc on the network cause when i shutdown it down it same crap happens. P.S. Is there another log where i can get some more info about the connection? I've been trying to get my linux router to connect with "isdnctrl dial ippp0" and all i get is "connected to 011xxxxxxx' and then in 6-7 seconds it dosconnects again. Now im suspecting this isdn modem is faulty but where can i check if it connected at all or it was just trying to dial before i go and buy a new modem. Thanx a lot! Marko

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KDEPRINTD Say what?
by Bruce Marshall 21 May '05

21 May '05

I'm trying to print an email out of kmail and keep getting an error that the process was unable to contact the kde print server KDEPRINTD. Check that this server is running. Huh? How many print servers does one need? There's CUPS and that ought to be the end of it. Moreover, I can't find any such entity (kdeprintd) as a file on my system. Kmail is the only program giving me this problem. Anyone have an idea what the problem is? SuSE 9.3 pro

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Java JRE 1.5
by John Bailo 21 May '05

21 May '05

Is there a Suse 9.2 compatible JRE 1.5 RPM anywhere? The distro seems to require 1.4 or things like Konqueror don't work right. ( I installed an outside copy of 1.5 and java applets stopped working ). I need 1.5 to run azureus ( bittorrent client ).

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Re: [SLE] Viewing DVD Movies
by Joseph Loo 21 May '05

21 May '05

I get a segmentation fault. Cristian Rodriguez wrote: >y > >2005/5/20, Joseph Loo <jloo(a)acm.org>: > >>All of those RPMs are installed already. Kaffine comes up and comes back >>and say it can not play it. I have tried decss loaded. >> > >nope.you sholu run mplayer :P > >open a terminal and type > >gmplayer > >thats all. > > -- Joseph Loo jloo(a)acm.org

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glibc realloc() crash?
by Carlos E. R. 21 May '05

21 May '05

Hi, I got the following message: *** glibc detected *** realloc(): invalid next size: 0x08066da0 *** Aborted at the time, I was running top in an xterm in gnome; if I shrink the vertical size with the mouse a bit fast, it crashes with that message. The crash is reproducible, every time crashes. An strace dump follows: read(7, "", 384) = 0 fcntl64(7, F_SETLKW, {type=F_UNLCK, whence=SEEK_SET, start=0, len=0}) = 0 alarm(0) = 1 rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x804ae00, [ALRM], SA_RESTART}, NULL, 8) = 0 close(7) = 0 _llseek(4, 0, [0], SEEK_SET) = 0 read(4, "0.92 0.35 0.22 2/168 28490\n", 4095) = 27 _llseek(5, 0, [0], SEEK_SET) = 0 read(5, "cpu 146952 7556 45952 5365484 6"..., 1024) = 704 _llseek(6, 0, [0], SEEK_SET) = 0 read(6, "MemTotal: 776068 kB\nMemFre"..., 4095) = 670 write(1, "\33[H\33[m\17top - 04:50:41 up 15:39, "..., 1157) = 1157 fcntl64(0, F_GETFL) = 0x2 (flags O_RDWR) fcntl64(0, F_SETFL, O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 read(0, 0xbfffe55b, 1) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) ioctl(0, TCFLSH, 0) = 0 fcntl64(0, F_SETFL, O_RDWR) = 0 select(1, [0], NULL, NULL, {3, 0}) = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be restarted) --- SIGWINCH (Window changed) @ 0 (0) --- ioctl(1, TIOCGWINSZ, {ws_row=5, ws_col=122, ws_xpixel=752, ws_ypixel=69}) = 0 open("/dev/tty", O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK|O_NOCTTY) = 7 writev(7, [{"*** glibc detected *** ", 23}, {"realloc(): invalid next size", 28}, {": 0x", 4}, {"0807ef70", 8}, {" ***\n", 5}], 5) = 68 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [ABRT], NULL, 8) = 0 gettid() = 28483 tgkill(28483, 28483, SIGABRT) = 0 --- SIGABRT (Aborted) @ 0 (0) --- +++ killed by SIGABRT +++ An ltrace of another run says: fflush(0x401975c0) = 0 read(0, "", 1) = -1 tcflush(0, 0, 1, 2, 0xbfffe560) = 0 fcntl(0, 4, 2, 0, 0x0805e0c0) = 0 select(1, 0xbfffe560, 0, 0, 0x0805e0c0 <unfinished ...> --- SIGWINCH (Window changed) --- ioctl(1, 21523, 0xbfffe1d4) = 0 getenv("COLUMNS") = NULL getenv("LINES") = NULL realloc(0x0807e950, 5945 <unfinished ...> --- SIGABRT (Aborted) --- +++ killed by SIGABRT +++ Now, who can I email this to so that the bug can be solved? Is it a problem with realloc in glibc (dangerous!) or "simply" in top? It is not the only program that crashes this way, pinfo or info does it as well. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

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ms-project equivalent to run under linux/samba
by mourik jan heupink 21 May '05

21 May '05

dear list. I'm writing here, because I guess some of you could have had the same problem as I'm facing right now. We have a network based on samba/ldap pdc with windows xp clients. Now all of a sudden 'they' (the boss, secretaries) decided they want ms-project. Does anyone here know an open source package that does the same? (roughly the same) Or at least something that does not (as I guess ms project does) require a native windows environment? I know this is only a bit related to suse linux, but i guess there must be many people here who can provide some insight... (maybe reply off list, so not to bother the otehr people too much with this off topic information..?) Thanks very much! mourik jan

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File Associations
by Colin Carter 21 May '05

21 May '05

Hi, Newbie did a silly thing: I wanted to look into an html document, and so opened it with KWrite. Somehow I associated .html files with KWrite, which in turn means that while browsing with Konqueror I can not longer click to open .html files; in fact Konqueror gave me a message about incorrect file type association. However, I could then right click and request Open with KHTML this worked, but a drag. it open the file within a Konqueror window; but how is that possible when Konqueror stated that it didn't associate with this file type? Anyway, I opened Konqueroe and opened Settings | Associations and attempted to associate html with KHTML. Now Konqueror says KDEInit cannot locate KHTML. Ha, ha, ha! Now I'm in trouble, and I am afraid that my past M$ experience is of zero help. :-) Basically I guess that what I need to know is ho do I associate a file type with a program? Thanks for a suggestion. Colin

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Who killed Windows? How resurrect?
by AD Marshall 21 May '05

21 May '05

To answer the 1st question, probably me, when i accidentally copy- pasted some text i was editing into a root prompt. Duh. Worse, i might have screwed up the original MBR by using dosfsck. But the real issue is how to get it, Windows 2000, back? Note: the Windows partition in question is still mountable and is automounted via /etc/fstab when SuSE 9.3 boots up, but i can't boot into Windows. What happened? * I tried to boot into Win2K via GRUB last night and got this response for the first time (after many previous successful boot-ups -- comments added): root (hd0,0) #<- from /boot/grub/menu.lst Filesystem is type fat, partition type 0xc chainloader+1 #<- from /boot/grub/menu.lst Boot failed * BEFORE READING at linuxquestions.org that i might be able to fix this by replacing old GRUB commands in the Windows 2000 entry in "/boot/grub/menu.lst" (above) with: rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 boot I TRIED THIS: # unmount /dev/hda1 # dosfsck -r /dev/hda1 and was told the MBR didn't match the one "backed up" (noting there exists a file "/boot/back_mbr", 512b in size, on /dev/hda7, in my box). Then dosfsck asked if I wanted to copy the backed up MBR to the MBR (or something like that, as choice 2) or do the opposite (choice 1) . I chose 2 (and crossed my fingers -- which didn't work, yet again). * Now, i can boot into Windows but can only get a "C:\>" prompt, with a very limited command set available. "C:\boot.ini" is still there and *looks* OK, but i'm not sure what to do and am afraid to try more without knowing more. I naively tried the alternate code, above, for /boot/grub/menu.lst, but it doesn't work (now?) Thanks in advance for any help. best, Andi

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Konqueror and KHTML
by Colin Carter 21 May '05

21 May '05

Help.... ..........please I accidently changed my file associations and now while browsing and I click on an html file (which is every damned wen site) I get the message that kde cannot locate executeable KHTML Any ideas please... Colin

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Re: [SLE] Wireless PCMCIA cards? [solved]
by Ben Rosenberg 21 May '05

21 May '05

Thanks for the suggestions off and on the list! :) -Ben -- "There is no need to teach that stars can fall out of the sky and land on a flat Earth in order to defend religious faith."

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Suse 9.3 & Dell Latitude D810
by Travis Barlow 21 May '05

21 May '05

Hello All Due to a recent company switch I have become the owner of a new Dell Latitude D810. I have installed Suse 9.3 Professional with no troubles, however I have one issue which became apparent after the install. For some reason I cannot access my cdrom. The error I receive is, Unable to mount the selected volume, mount:only root can mount /dev/cdrom on /media/cdrom. Now, I have tried mount the volume as root with the same error message. I have been googling for more information, and have asked around locally, but I seem to be the only one with this issue. Suse recognizes the drive correctly as a TSSTcorp CDRW/DVD TSL462C and the only thing different from my last laptop besides the name is that the Dell has SATA interfaces. The Disk Controller is a Dell 8280 1FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller using module ata_piix. Any pointers would be great at this point. Thanks and best regards, Travis Barlow Linux poses a real challenge for those with a taste for late-night hacking (and/or conversations with God). (By Matt Welsh)

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Viewing DVD Movies
by Joseph Loo 21 May '05

21 May '05

I have been trying to find a place where I can get the sytem to run DVD movies on a Athlon 64 running SUS 9.3 x86_64. I have tried loading the libdecss2 64 bit version and have no luck at this time. I have searched the net and found different ways of doing it but most of it seem to apply to 32 bit version. Is there a place where I can get a more definitive method to do it? -- Joseph Loo jloo(a)acm.org

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Re: [SLE] Sendmail Relaying
by John Andersen 21 May '05

21 May '05

On Thursday 19 May 2005 06:11 pm, Ruben Safir wrote: > > Its better to use STARTLS if you need to allow relaying from external > > machines thru your mail server. > > How do you recieve external mail then? > > Ruben Relaying is defined as accepting mail for relay to someone not having a local mail account. Such as me sending mail thru your machine to my friend in France. Me sending mail to your machine to Your Mailbox is not relaying. Outbound mail is relaying. Someone on your local network sends mail thru your machine to his friend in France. Clearly the friend in France has no mail account on your machine. Therefore, the source (sender) has to be specifically authorized to send via your machine. That's why the lines: 192.168 RELAY are needed. (where 192.168 is merely an example here). Now you on your laptop on vacation want to send mail. But you don't have an account at in Iceland where you like to go on vacation, so how do you send mail? You could use AOL, but that would suck. You can't open your server to accept connections from just anywhere because every spammer in the world would own your machine. So you install something like STARTLS to authorize specific connections that are able to authenticate themselves to your mail server in order to be authorized to send mail thru your server where ever you are. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

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is lvm on top of raid, possible?
by Richard Bos 21 May '05

21 May '05

Should the following be possible: make a raid-1 with 2 disks, on top of that put lvm and after that create some filesystems in the volume group. I especially wonder about the lvm on top of the raid. I tried to do that with yast, but yast does not seem to be able to do that. I can configure the raid, I can go to create lvm -> but it shows the only the physical devices and not the raid. Is this a limit in yast? Is there a workaround? -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless

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Strange list behavior.
by Preston Kutzner 21 May '05

21 May '05

Has anyone else been getting "bounce"messages of thing's they've successfully sent to the list months ago? -- Preston

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Restarting options in SuSE 9.3 & KDE 3.4
by James Knott 21 May '05

21 May '05

I seem to recall reading, that with SuSE 9.3, you could restart the computer and boot into another OS. Also, when you log out from KDE, the "Restart" option appears as a drop down box, but clicking on it causes the system to shut down for a reboot. Is that where you're supposed to select the other OS? If so, how do you configure it, so that it works? tnx jk

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no nfs sever for 9.1
by Dave Driscoll 21 May '05

21 May '05

Hi, Trying to get nfs server working. Nfs client works but when I try to export a directory to the machine that serves nfs mounts to the suse machine it times out without connecting. I have opened up permissions (chmod 777) on the directory I want to export. I've tried to mount with both Yast and command line. I've tried variaous entries in /etc/exports. portmap and rpc.mountd are both running. rpc.nfsd does not seem to run as a daemon. I have tried rcnfsserver restart and running it directly from the command line and it appears to exit immediately with no error messages. Does anyone know the magic word or have some suggestions for how to trouble-shoot this? Thanks, Dave Driscoll

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Re: [SLE] Kopete not working anymore ?
by Richard Bos 21 May '05

21 May '05

Op donderdag 19 mei 2005 22:21, schreef Catimimi: > I've the same problem, what do you mean by SVN ? > I made a little search and didn't find. It's kde's source code repository => you'll need to compile kopete to get kopete working again. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless

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Gawd awful boot screen
by James Knott 21 May '05

21 May '05

I've recently installed SuSE 9.3. One thing I don't like, is that incredibly ugly, out of focus image that now appears, when the computer boots. How can I change it to something that's not so bad? I've tried changing themes, accordiing to the instructions in another thread, but it only takes effect after login. That image also appears during shut down. tnx jk

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Routing issues with eth1(internal) & eth2(external)
by Mark A. Taff 20 May '05

20 May '05

All, I sure hope someone can enlighten me. I am having a weird routing issue. Everything works OK, except I can't access the the external interface from a machine on my internal network. See network map pdf at http://www.marktaff.com/network.map.pdf See output of `ifconfig` and `route` below. From any internal (192.168...) machine, I can't ping/ssh liberty1-ext, but I can ping/ssh to liberty1-int. From each internal machine, I can reach all the other internal machines, and the router's external ip, but not liberty1's external ip. From outside my private network, I can ping/ssh liberty1-ext just fine. I want to be able to access the machine via liberty1-ext both at home and while traveling, yet still be able to access the private network from liberty1 via liberty1-int interface. Could the problem be my hub? Do I need to replace it with a switch, or perhaps a separate router? Seems like the hub should work? Thanks for all your help. -- Mark A. Taff +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ liberty1:~ # ifconfig eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:B5:44:34:B3 inet addr:192.168.0.111 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::20f:b5ff:fe44:34b3/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:197992 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:13195 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:63024816 (60.1 Mb) TX bytes:2299455 (2.1 Mb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0x8000 eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:C5:B3:6D:63 inet addr:24.16.122.35 Bcast:255.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.240.0 inet6 addr: fe80::200:c5ff:feb3:6d63/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:8708383 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:48430 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:8845 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:1003929910 (957.4 Mb) TX bytes:6020982 (5.7 Mb) Interrupt:10 Base address:0x6000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:2273 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2273 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:879444 (858.8 Kb) TX bytes:879444 (858.8 Kb) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ liberty1:~ # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 c-24-16-112-0.h * 255.255.240.0 U 0 0 0 eth2 link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 loopback * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo default c-24-16-112-1.h 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth2

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Wireless PCMCIA cards?
by Ben Rosenberg 20 May '05

20 May '05

Hello all. This has probably been beat to death but I'll ask anyway. Which PCMCIA cards just work with SUSE? The person I'm asking this for isn't all the sharpest knife in the drawer so he doesn't want to mess with ndiswrapper. Thanks in advance. -Ben -- "There is no need to teach that stars can fall out of the sky and land on a flat Earth in order to defend religious faith."

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DVD Write failure
by David Johanson 20 May '05

20 May '05

In attempting to write a single sided (Memorex 4X DVD-R recordable) DVD with K3b and SuSE 9.2, I get repeated failures (although the first attempt and only that worked) with the following consistent information (except for the file size): Iso9660 Filesystem (Size: 3.7 GB) Press burn; get in display: Waiting for media .. . Writing DVD-R in DAO mode. Using growisofs 5.21 - Copyright (C) Andy Polyakov <appro(a)fy.chalmers.se Starting writing... :-( unable to open64("/dev/sr0",O_RDONLY): Permission denied Fatal error at startup: Permission denied Sony DVD RW DRU-510A Displays in Konquerer as: usb-DRX510UL_SYQ13030:0.0.0 but there is no icon on the desktop nor appropriate line is fstab. It will read the one DVD I was able to burn and it reads other DVDs. Display of debugging info provides the following: growisofs comand: ----------------------- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=dao -dvd-compat -speed=4 -overburn -gui -graft-points -volid SuSE 9.2 Backup -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR VERSION 0.11.15cvs (C) 2003 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer K3b - Version 0.11.15cvs -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dcjohan/k3b4DCZsa.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dcjohan/k3bw9FMKa.tmp -allow-leading-dots -full-iso9660-filenames -relaxed-filenames -disable-deep-relocation -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-dcjohan/k3b7KqC0b.tmp Any help would be appreciated. dave -- David C. Johanson Linux Counter # 116410 Powered by SuSE Linux 7.3 People who behold a phenomenon will often extend their thinking beyond it; people who merely hear about the phenomenon will not be moved to think at all. -- Goethe

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ATI Radeon Drivers problem
by Vladimir Niksic 20 May '05

20 May '05

I own a Radeon 9600 pro video card. I downloaded a driver from one of the SuSE ftp sites, and got it to work fairly easily. 3D works great, glxgears shows a lot of fps. :-) However, the problem is that, when I kill the X server for whatever reason, the computer just locks up. When I restore the original xorg.conf, everything works great, and killing the X server does not lock up the computer. Am I the only one with this problem? Has anyone else had similar experiences?

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kernel upgrade
by Fritz Oppliger 20 May '05

20 May '05

Is it possible / adviseable to upgrade SuSE 9.2 with Linux kernel 2.6.8.2x to kernel 2.6.11? with other distros it is supposedly EASY. But YOU shows I'm at current level which is NOT 2.6.11 ? -- Greetings from Humboldt County California

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server upgrade?
by steve 20 May '05

20 May '05

Is it worth the time upgrading a minimum install nfs, nis and 9.3 nfs installation server from 9.2 to 9.3? Cheers, Steve.

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kde spash screen
by steve 20 May '05

20 May '05

How do I setup the KDE splash screen to appear system wide rather than each user having to specify it individually? 9.3 Cheers, Steve.

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Problem ripping CD
by sargon 20 May '05

20 May '05

I am attempting to rip a CD using Kaudiocreator, but I receive the following error: CDROM read or access error (or no audio disk in drive). Please make sure you have access permissions to: /dev/dvd I have checked the permissions, the drive works (I installed SuSE 9.3 and StarOffice from it), so I am baffled. The device has the folling mappings: /dev/dvd symlinked to /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom symlinked to /dev/hdc I also tried Grip to no avail. When I try to listen to any CD with any of the SuSE-supplied CD players, each tells me "permission denied." This worked perfectly under SuSE 9.2. When installling 9.3 I performed a clean install. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

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NVU
by Fred A. Miller 20 May '05

20 May '05

Does anyone know of a compiled working current version of NVU? If so, where is it? Thanks! Fred -- "BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!" Brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act(s) numerous Presidential Directives, etc.

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hal & dbus
by Tim Hanson 20 May '05

20 May '05

I asked a question about this last week and was sent to the support db, but that answer doesn't solve my problem. I'm trying to script reads and writes to my dvd. Of course, this becomes difficult because it mounts dynamically, giving the name of the disk. I've looked in the environment, through /etc, and so on, but can't find a place where the title of the dynamically mounted dvd is listed in a text file. If I can find the name somewhere on disk, I can read it into a script variable and work with it on the fly. Does anyone have a clue about this?

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Firefox problem after YOU on SuSE 9.1
by ti＠amb.org 20 May '05

20 May '05

Hi all, I have SuSE 9.1 which was previously running Firefox 1.0.1 (installed from SuSE's rpm), and was working well. Recently I ran YOU and it upgraded Firefox to 1.0.3, and now the "right click -> Save Image As..." or "right click -> Save Link As..." don't work any more. An error dialog box appears as follows: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: chrome://global/content/filepicker.xul Line Number 1, Column 5 ends="xul:box"> ____^ Any idea what's wrong and how do I fix this? I tried googling the web but didn't find a solution. -Ti -- Ti Kan

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x on a (type) of server
by lerninlinux＠comcast.net 20 May '05

20 May '05

I have some old systems that I intend to swap around parts and eliminate a lot of the old pc's (p133's 32mb). I have a file server, that I may turn into my backup server, but I am building a music server out of some of my parts. I haven't decided yet wether to put a dvd drive in it (make it a mythbox) or just a cd drive (for ripping and playing), but my prefered two players are Juk, and Xmms. As this will be in another room, hooked to the stereo, but without a moniter, I was wondering about running x remotely. Does it take less memory to remotely operate X? Does X have to run to run these (dependencies) or can I move the order of the songs on these by the command line somehow? Thanks

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Messed up SuSE web site pages.
by James Knott 20 May '05

20 May '05

Lately, I've noticed that some of the SuSE web pages seem a bit messed up. When you go to the page, there's a long list of Novell stuff at the left, before you get to the desired info. This happens with both Mozilla and Konqueror. Has anyone else noticed this? Is this a new "feature"? An example can be found here. http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2002/09/fhassel_grub_overview.html

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Novell Linux Leaders Flee
by its2am＠gmail.com 20 May '05

20 May '05

It seems to me there are a few points here: 1) Is the Inquirer a reliable news rag? Who knows, but the story was also in eWeek, which, I think, has a better rep: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1814335,00.asp So, is the story factual? Probably. 2) Are the Novell "Linux leaders" leaving? Well, the following paragraph is taken from the eWeek article: "...after the departures of vice chairman Chris Stone last November and of chief technology officer Alan Nugent this March, both of whom were pivotal players in the company's decision to embrace Linux and open source across all of its products and services...." It would appear that some good brains have left Novell recently. What the article doesn't answer is, "Why?" 3) What effect will this have on SuSE and Novell? I've heard SuSE described as Novell's "dying gasp", but that, obviously, is one person's opinion. We'll see. And 4) (tangentially) Is SuSE getting better? That, as has been seen on this list, is debatable. My personal opinion is that Linux (in general) has improved drastically over the past 5 years, but is still only about as usable (for a desktop system) as Windows 98 was. SuSE is a pretty good flavor. So's Red Hat. Red Hat has the advantage of being the flavor of choice in America, which is a pretty big, unified market. There was also news yesterday of Michael Dell's investment of $99.5 million into Red Hat. The European market is fragmented, to say the least. What does all this mean? I hope some intelligent folk on this list will chime in, but my opinion is that SuSE will maintain its small sliver of a market share, and some new brains will be found to replace those who've left Novell, and the world will continue to turn.

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Performance problem with SLES9 after patch
by Jerry Feldman 20 May '05

20 May '05

One of the systems in out lab is exhibiting serious performance problems after applying the latest patches. There is nothing we can think of at the moment why it is so poor. It does not appear to be a hardware problem. The system is a 2 dual core CPU XEON (X86) HP ProLiant 3.2GHz with 4GB memory. Before the patch, things ran ok. Initially, one of the users was complaining that compile time was horrendous. After looking at the system, I booted Knoppix, and performance was fine. We then completely reinstalled SLES9 and performance was fine until applying the patches. kernel is 2.6.5-7.151-bigsmp. Top did not show any process hogging the CPU. The symptoms are: man man 20 Seconds YaST(command line) > 1 minute. I also unmounted the NFS file system to try to eliminate a potential problem with nfs, Note that PS AX runs instantaneously as does ls. All file systems are ext3. ------- I ran the same tests on a similarly configured blade system: 2 dual core XEON (x86) 3.0GHz. kernel:2.6.5-7.151-smp. man man < 1 second YaST(command line) 2 secs The admin configures most of his systems identically. Note that both the systems are available for public log in, but I don't want to broadcast the addresses here, but you can email me, and I'll give you the web site where you can sign up and access these systems. -- Jerry Feldman <gaf(a)blu.org> Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9

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All of a sudden my machine got fast
by John Bailo 20 May '05

20 May '05

Did those Novell guys do an update recently? I just noticed that machine is running way faster ( snappier ) than normal Suse 9.2 KDE Athlon 2400 .5 G ram

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Installing 9.3 with floppies - can someone help?
by Hugo 20 May '05

20 May '05

Hi! I have the DVD for 9.3 (and the 5 CD rom set as well)... but the laptop where I want to install 9.3 does not have CD drive (or DVD for that matter). How do I install? I thought I'd boot with floppies and then set the installation source either over NFS from another SuSE 9.2 box or over samba from a windows laptop. But I just didn't find any floppies for 9.3? Maybe I looked from the wrong place? I did find them for the 9.2 (3 + 5 modules disks)... but I'd really like to run 9.3 as it has some programs and features that I'm really interested in. In addition to floppies, I can boot the laptop to Knoppix with the Knoppix Terminal server (PXE-boot)... can I somehow start the installation of SuSE 9.3 from Knoppix? I also have another server that has faulty CD drive (that can not be used to boot) and no DVD and I'd like to install the same SuSE 9.3 there also. So I believe that the same procedure applies.... I just do not know how to do it without the floppies that I didn't find. Maybe I'm just blind... can anybody help? -- HG

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CUPS and SuSE 9.1
by babu walad 20 May '05

20 May '05

Hi, MY printer used to work under 9.0 but since my upgrade to 9.1 I cannot get anything working. I have an hp laserjet 1200 connected via an hp print server (printjet 500 with 3 ports). When I try to use the CUPS web interface at http://localhost:631/admin it asks for a login and password. I never set any. Does anyone know what the defaults are? I did not like my root login/password. When Yast configures my printer, it detects the print server but after that there is no other operation it does to configure the printer itself. I looked under the PPD directory and it was empty. I re-installed all the CUPS packages and it is still empty. Any suggestions where to start? Thanks, Babu __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail

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Undeliverable Messages
by B. Stia 20 May '05

20 May '05

Hi, I am getting an undeliverable message to an mtgordon(a)ximian.com for every message that I send to this list. Anybody else seeing this?? And now I am being threatened by ezmlm. Bob S.

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How to mount a cifs share as user?
by Praise 20 May '05

20 May '05

I need to mount some samba share with the cifs module as user. The mount.cifs manual says I have to set it setuid root in order to let users mount shares. I have done that but I keep getting "permission denied" errors. I am using Suse 9.1 but with samba-3.0.15pre2-0.1 rpm installed via apt. The server is a Samba 3.0.10. Praise

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RE: [SLE] strange output from ls -l ???
by James D. Parra 20 May '05

20 May '05

>But, of course, it's not a Unix or Linux question. Later he confesses it >occurs on WINDOWS. Boy, we are really beating a dead horse here. >libros% ls -l qt* >-rw-rw-rw-+ 1 dog wheel 75633 Aug 24 2004 qtvoke.exe >Can anyone tell me what the 11th bit with the + is? ***THIS IS THE QUESTION*** Does it matter whether it occurs on Suse, Fedora, Mandrake, or a Unix emulator on windows? (I understand that you would answer, yes, to that question) >Here it is: > >This is a from a bash shell running on a Windoze system. ... >It was a question about either Cygwin or the MKS Toolkit, not Linux. Not true. It was statement about the environment, not a question. Note the subject line... "strange output from ls -l". Luckily, for Suse users there is no ls command (more sarcasm) and just some screwy command you only find on windows. Let's give this thread a rest. ~James

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Suse Process Table
by Carl William Spitzer IV 20 May '05

20 May '05

I found something new without knowing the key sequence to bring it up. It was a new window entitled a process table. The cat did it because he walked over my KB. I assume its for selective killing of processes. i just never heard of it and dont know how to bring it up. I was in KDE at the time in 9.1 pro. It would be useful to add it to the menu -- -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/

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trying to track down a memory-leak
by Per Jessen 20 May '05

20 May '05

This isn't very specific to SuSE, but I'm not sure where I could/should really try to address this issue. I suspect a kernel memory-leak, but ... I've got an SMP-box running SuSE-9.0 with a multi-threaded mysql-application. Typically 30 threads. Now, the app itself has a problem - it segfaults after a while. It's been really difficult to track down, but as it is restartable, we just restart it whenever it falls over. No big deal. But after running for 12-16 hours or so, the box is running out of memory. I get "__alloc_pages: [012]-order allocation failed", and eventually it'll grind to a halt. This is the really annoying bit - the app doesn't use a lot of memory - maybe 100M at most. The box has 1280Mb. What I've noticed is - the number of slabs allocated to "sock" is steadily increasing. If I read /proc/slabinfo correctly, that is. Cache Num Total Size Pages kmem_cache 87 87 132 3 tcp_tw_bucket 0 0 96 0 tcp_bind_bucket 148 226 32 2 tcp_open_request 0 0 64 0 inet_peer_cache 1 59 64 1 ip_fib_hash 10 226 32 2 ip_dst_cache 390 1272 160 53 arp_cache 3 60 128 2 blkdev_requests 8192 8200 96 205 jfs_mp 240 240 80 5 jfs_ip 168959 168959 524 24137 dnotify_cache 0 0 20 0 file_lock_cache 5 80 96 2 fasync_cache 0 0 16 0 uid_cache 6 226 32 2 skbuff_head_cache 390 504 160 21 sock 180044 180044 928 45011 When I start with a newly rebooted system, "sock" is <500. This sounds to me like somehow the "sock" slabs aren't being cleaned up when the app dies? Any suggestions on how to debug this or do I just take it straight to lkml? And do let me know if I'm completely misreading/-interpreting what I'm seeing. -- /Per Jessen, Zürich

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Re: [SLE] LDAP and evolution
by Philip Washington 20 May '05

20 May '05

José M. Fandiño wrote: >Philip Washington wrote: > > >>I appear to be having a problem with getting addresses from our LDAP >>server. I am currently using evolution 2.0.2 and can create the address >> >> > >What ldap server? what version? > > > The openldap version is 2.0.21 >>list, but whenever I click on the list I get an error >>-------------------------------------- >>Error loading addressbook. >> >>We were unable to open this addressbook. This either means you have >>entered an incorrect URI, or the LDAP server is unreachable. >>------------------------------------------- >> >> > >where are the logs of the ldap server? > > I was not able to find a log file on the ldap server. There does not appear to be one set in the configuration file. > > >>I am able to connect to the LDAP server using KAddress and was able to >>connect using evolution 1.4 , but whenever I have tried a system with >>evolution 2.01 or 2.0.2 I get this message. >>Whenever I click "Find Possible Search Bases" it returns with the >>correct search base . I'm kind of at a loss as to why it seems to work >>in these other apps but not on evolution 2+ >> >> > >what bind versions are using evolution and KAdress? >I am using bind 9.2.1 > > The problem seems to have corrected itself after shutting down evolution and restarting a couple of times all of a sudden it started working. I also ran into a problem with one of my pop3 servers. It appeared to connect then it would just stop after attempting to get the summaries of the emails. No error other than Fetch failed operation in progress. On 2 occassions I had to uninstall evolution and then reinstall before I could even get it to ask me for my password again. I then used ethereal to see if I could spot the problem and saw that the user name was wrong. Fixed this and set up a connection for another server, it also started having problems with the same symptoms. I used ethereal again and found that I had mistyped the password. I had to delete that server information and create a new one and enter the correct password and it began working fine. I think that both of these errors should have had a standard error message explaining to the user what the problem was. I still don't know why the LDAP server kept having problems , but it's been working all day without a problem. There is something not quite right with the way evolution is handling errors in these situations.

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RE: [SLE] NVU
by DChristensen 20 May '05

20 May '05

Try here: http://packman.links2linux.org/?action=485 David Christensen Brokers International, Ltd. 1200 E Main St PO Box 160 Panora, IA 50216 (800) 362-1097 or (641) 755-2775 dchristensen(a)theimg.net -----Original Message----- From: Fred A. Miller [mailto:fmiller@lightlink.com] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:20 PM To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: [SLE] NVU Does anyone know of a compiled working current version of NVU? If so, where is it? Thanks! Fred -- "BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!" Brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act(s) numerous Presidential Directives, etc. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com

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USB drives
by Donn Washburn 20 May '05

20 May '05

Hey Group; I have wondered if anyone has chased down the problem that causes SuSE 9.2 not mount a proven to work USB drive. Sometimes it works and others it does not. I have tried with the drive power up at bootup and plugged in later enclosed is a file that is from "strace -o". If someone has an idea why it fails often. HELP! -- 73 de Donn Washburn Hpage: " http://www.hal-pc.org/~n5xwb " Ham Callsign N5XWB Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " 307 Savoy St. HAMs: " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador LL# 1.281.242.3256 " http://counter.li.org " #279316 execve("/usr/sbin/mtsda", ["mtsda"], [/* 56 vars */]) = 0 uname({sys="Linux", node="m1l", ...}) = 0 brk(0) = 0x80c3000 access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=149982, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 149982, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40018000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/libreadline.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\220\263"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=181224, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 182652, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x4003d000 madvise(0x4003d000, 182652, MADV_SEQUENTIAL|0x1) = 0 old_mmap(0x40065000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x28000) = 0x40065000 old_mmap(0x40069000, 2428, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40069000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/libhistory.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\20\30\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=26864, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4006a000 old_mmap(NULL, 29472, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x4006b000 madvise(0x4006b000, 29472, MADV_SEQUENTIAL|0x1) = 0 old_mmap(0x40072000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x6000) = 0x40072000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/libncurses.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\300\361"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=318626, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 281644, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x40073000 madvise(0x40073000, 281644, MADV_SEQUENTIAL|0x1) = 0 old_mmap(0x400ac000, 49152, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x38000) = 0x400ac000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/libdl.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0@\v\0\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=13072, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 12388, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x400b8000 madvise(0x400b8000, 12388, MADV_SEQUENTIAL|0x1) = 0 old_mmap(0x400ba000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1000) = 0x400ba000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/tls/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\0L\1\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1359489, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 1137708, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x400bc000 madvise(0x400bc000, 1137708, MADV_SEQUENTIAL|0x1) = 0 mprotect(0x401cb000, 27692, PROT_NONE) = 0 old_mmap(0x401cc000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x10f000) = 0x401cc000 old_mmap(0x401d0000, 7212, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x401d0000 close(3) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x401d2000 mprotect(0x401cc000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 -> 6, base_addr:0x401d2080, limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0 munmap(0x40018000, 149982) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 open("/dev/tty", O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 close(3) = 0 stat64("/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive", 0xbfce0060) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) brk(0) = 0x80c3000 brk(0x80e4000) = 0x80e4000 open("/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2528, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 131072, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40018000 read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 131072) = 2528 read(3, "", 131072) = 0 close(3) = 0 munmap(0x40018000, 131072) = 0 open("/usr/lib/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_CTYPE", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/lib/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_CTYPE", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=208464, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 208464, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x401d3000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/gconv/gconv-modules.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=21544, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 21544, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 3, 0) = 0x40206000 close(3) = 0 getuid32() = 0 getgid32() = 0 geteuid32() = 0 getegid32() = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 time(NULL) = 1116556878 open("/etc/mtab", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=853, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 131072, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4020c000 read(3, "/dev/hda5 / reiserfs rw,acl,user"..., 131072) = 853 close(3) = 0 munmap(0x4020c000, 131072) = 0 open("/proc/meminfo", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0444, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4020c000 read(3, "MemTotal: 515576 kB\nMemFre"..., 1024) = 598 close(3) = 0 munmap(0x4020c000, 4096) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGQUIT, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGQUIT, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGQUIT, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 uname({sys="Linux", node="m1l", ...}) = 0 stat64("/root", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=2056, ...}) = 0 stat64(".", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=2056, ...}) = 0 getpid() = 6945 getppid() = 6944 getpgrp() = 6944 rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, {0x8093b80, [], 0}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 open("/usr/sbin/mtsda", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 ioctl(3, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, 0xbfce0038) = -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl for device) _llseek(3, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR) = 0 read(3, "#!/bin/sh\ntime mount /dev/sda1 /"..., 80) = 45 _llseek(3, 0, [0], SEEK_SET) = 0 getrlimit(RLIMIT_NOFILE, {rlim_cur=1024, rlim_max=1024}) = 0 dup2(3, 255) = 255 close(3) = 0 fcntl64(255, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 fcntl64(255, F_GETFL) = 0x8000 (flags O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) fstat64(255, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=45, ...}) = 0 _llseek(255, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 read(255, "#!/bin/sh\ntime mount /dev/sda1 /"..., 45) = 45 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 gettimeofday({1116556878, 450891}, {300, 0}) = 0 getrusage(RUSAGE_SELF, {ru_utime={0, 999}, ru_stime={0, 1999}, ...}) = 0 getrusage(RUSAGE_CHILDREN, {ru_utime={0, 0}, ru_stime={0, 0}, ...}) = 0 stat64(".", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=2056, ...}) = 0 stat64("/sbin/mount", 0xbfcdfad0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat64("/usr/sbin/mount", 0xbfcdfad0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat64("/usr/local/sbin/mount", 0xbfcdfad0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat64("/root/bin/mount", 0xbfcdfad0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat64("/usr/local/bin/mount", 0xbfcdfad0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat64("/usr/bin/mount", 0xbfcdfad0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat64("/usr/X11R6/bin/mount", 0xbfcdfad0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat64("/bin/mount", {st_mode=S_IFREG|S_ISUID|0755, st_size=87704, ...}) = 0 stat64("/bin/mount", {st_mode=S_IFREG|S_ISUID|0755, st_size=87704, ...}) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [INT CHLD], [], 8) = 0 _llseek(255, -2, [43], SEEK_CUR) = 0 clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD, child_tidptr=0x401d20c8) = 6946 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x80600b1, [], 0}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 waitpid(-1, [{WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 32}], 0) = 6946 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 --- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) --- waitpid(-1, 0xbfcdf7f4, WNOHANG) = -1 ECHILD (No child processes) sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {0x80600b1, [], 0}, 8) = 0 gettimeofday({1116556878, 461792}, {300, 0}) = 0 getrusage(RUSAGE_SELF, {ru_utime={0, 999}, ru_stime={0, 1999}, ...}) = 0 getrusage(RUSAGE_CHILDREN, {ru_utime={0, 999}, ru_stime={0, 3999}, ...}) = 0 fstat64(2, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0620, st_rdev=makedev(4, 1), ...}) = 0 ioctl(2, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 131072, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4020c000 write(2, "\n", 1) = 1 write(2, "real\t0m0.011s\n", 14) = 14 write(2, "user\t0m0.001s\n", 14) = 14 write(2, "sys\t0m0.004s\n", 13) = 13 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 read(255, "\n\n", 45) = 2 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 read(255, "", 45) = 0 munmap(0x4020c000, 131072) = 0 exit_group(32) = ?

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Memory Manager <---> Application Two Way API
by Jason Snyder 20 May '05

20 May '05

Hi, I have noticed these days that application developers tend to go the route of use up as much memory as possible. A lot of it makes sense, why reload off of disk, over the Internet, etc. when you can just stick it in RAM? The problem I see a lot are applications tend to take up huge amounts of memory (sometimes it is hard to say how much is caching as opposed to unintentional memory leaks) and fill up the swap partition. The question comes up if the vast majority of that space is just being used to cache stuff in memory uncompressed and in rapid access space, why spend all kinds of time scattering it about the swap partition and then pulling all of those scattered chucks back off the hard disk? Why not instead have the operating system's memory manager and applications running on top of the OS coordinate so that applications can hog up RAM when there is RAM to spare and then trim back when more efficient uses for those chunks of RAM are found? For example let's say you are running a window manager, a web browser, and a database engine. The window manager decides to cache a wide range of images so if that if an image is requested again it can pull it right out of memory very quickly. The web browser renders all of the web pages it comes across and sticks it into memory. Why spend all kinds of time re-rendering recently visited web pages if you can just cache it all in memory. The database engine decides all these tables take time to load from disks and it takes an appreciable amount of time to run all these queries. Why not just cache these tables in memory and store the results of these queries in memory in case they are asked for again in the near future. Now you set all of this lose on a system for an extended period of time and before you know it each program is using hundreds of megabytes or even gigabytes of memory and all totaled up is much more than the physical RAM in the system. When you select the web browser it takes forever to load up a page because instead of just re-redering it (which only took a second or two in the first pace) it has to rummage about the swap partition to find all of the fragments of the previously rendered page. Then you try to use the database. Well there is no free RAM for the database to operate because the web browser is hogging it all up so a large portion of the web browser needs to be dumped to disk. Then the database goes well I have all this cached stuff, I think I will use that, but it gets tricked because all of that cached stuff is strewn about the swap partition and it actually takes longer to pull all the fragments off of the swap partition than it does to just re-read off of disk and recompute. Then when you try use use the window manager the same sort of deal crops up except you have had two other applications fighting over RAM before hand while it sat idle so it is completely and totally out on the swap partition and takes even longer to come up. So in the end all of the tricks employed that should speed things up are actually working against you to dramatically slow things down. --Jason Snyder--

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RE: [SLE] strange output from ls -l ???
by James D. Parra 19 May '05

19 May '05

>The original question was about what some software did on Windows. That >cannot be deemed germane here even some of us knew the answer. Randall, That was not the original question. Observe; >This is not a SuSE question .. more of a UNIX question. I have encountered a >output from a ls -l command that i have ever seen before ... He states that he has a *nix question. >libros% ls -l qt* >-rw-rw-rw-+ 1 dog wheel 75633 Aug 24 2004 qtvoke.exe >Can anyone tell me what the 11th bit with the + is? He pointedly states that question about "ls" and, unbeknownst to him, an acl attribute. >This is a from a bash shell running on a Windoze system. The result is that I >cannot delete the file with even a "rm -f". I have changed the premissions >to 666 using chmod ......... no cigar. He then states that he is using a bash shell in a windows environment, but he then asks how to remove the file using "rm" His question is not unique to bash running on windows. It is, again, about Linux commands. At any rate, I just noticed that John posted something foolish to this list, so this thread, apparently, was all in vane. No good deed goes unpunished. Just taking note that Linux questions should be answered here. Peace. ~James

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md5sum for the 9.3 pro 32-bit DVD???
by ken 19 May '05

19 May '05

Where's the md5sum for the 9.3 pro 32-bit DVD (i.e., the one from <http://www.interknet.net/bt/?torrent=suse93>)? -- A lot of us are working harder than we want, at things we don't like to do. Why? ...In order to afford the sort of existence we don't care to live. -- Bradford Angier

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RE: [SLE] strange output from ls -l ???
by James D. Parra 19 May '05

19 May '05

Randall, After reviewing past and current posts to this list, a significant portion are about general Linux questions. Should we turn these posters away? I think we shouldn't, but you, possibly, hold a different opinion. The original post was about "ls". That was it. With all the general Linux non-Suse specific questions that are posted here, I thought he deserved a useable answer. Hopefully, he got it. Hopefully, again, he may go out and buy a Suse box set because he had such great experience on this list. Who knows. >May I ask why your mailer doesn't preserve thread links? Yes, you may ask. Unfortunately, I don't know why. Should I provide you with more info without fear of getting flamed? I'll give it a shot. We use Exchange. Why Microsoft doesn't comply with mail standards, I don't know. I hate it. Don't ask me to change company policy either. It isn't going to happen. If you want, let's take the rest of this dialogue off list so we can spare the list of any more of this 'tit for tat' banter. ~James

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Sendmail Relaying
by Ruben Safir 19 May '05

19 May '05

If I set the access database to allow relaying from a domain, say bodyman.com , that I own, and control DNS, can someone spoof the headers of spam and gain the ability to relay from outside the network? Is it better to make the allowence in relay-domains? I definitely get spam with spoofed from lines with my domain and the opposite, complaints from clueless others that my domain is spoofed as the domain from which spam came from, despite the fact that the ip address is not from a network I control. Ruben

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