September 2003 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Strange hard link "Operation not permitted"
by Hugh Song 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

I thought the root can do anything: Here, you will see that it cannot on my machine :SuSE-8.2 with the following rpms. coreutils-4.5.8-11 glibc-2.3.2-5 glibc-locale-2.3.2-6 glibc-devel-2.3.2-6 glibc-info-2.3.2-6 reiserfs-3.6.4-12 The kernel really does not matter. It happens under both 2.4.23-pre4-pac1 suse-2.4.19-4GB The symptom is rodolfo:tmp $ ls -l slide-demo.obj -rw------- 1 ghsong ipl 3096 Aug 29 20:37 slide-demo.obj rodolfo:tmp $ ln slide-demo.obj new.obj /bin/ln: creating hard link `new.obj' to `slide-demo.obj': Operation not permitted rodolfo:tmp $ chown root.root slide-demo.obj rodolfo:tmp $ ls -l slide-demo.obj -rw------- 1 root root 3096 Aug 29 20:37 slide-demo.obj rodolfo:tmp $ ln slide-demo.obj new.obj rodolfo:tmp $ rodolfo:tmp $ ls -l slide-demo.obj new.obj -rw------- 2 root root 3096 Aug 29 20:37 new.obj -rw------- 2 root root 3096 Aug 29 20:37 slide-demo.obj rodolfo:tmp $ On any other SuSE-installed LInux machines with the same rpms installed, the "root" is "root", the hard link succeeded without a hitch even when the file's owner is not "root". I understand the latter behavior is the correct one. The security setting within yast2 on all machines are the same. What is going on? The only difference I can think of is that the "rodolfo" system is on a laptop on which Reiserfs file system was probably created around Aug 2002. while all others are on desktop, on which Reiserfs file system was created around around January 2003. reiserfsck on the file system with the readonly on gave me no error. Regards, Hugh Song

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Re: [SLE] KDE 3.1.4 ?
by r.maurizzi＠digitalpha.it 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

> Notice the date on the file. And I would have had no reason to > go digging for any KDM issues what so ever since I personally > think it's a waste of resources..I am quite capable of typing startx. The date on the file you gave the URL for is exactly the same: 16 Sept. Regarding the "waste of resources", I may think like you that a graphic login is one, but i doubt my many users would be as happy without it. > >- SuSE do not have pam_krb5 installed or configured > > Doesn't matter the vulnerability exists in the packages that they > shipped. So a fix being put out can not be argued about. I'm sure the fix WILL be put out. But I think that, since SuSE resources are not infinite, it's far better for us that they concentrate on more dangerous vulnerabilities than the KDM one. Like the two ones in sendmail and gkrellmd for which I downloaded the fixed rpm today. > > - the number of Linux boxes connected to the net that let in > > users using X11/XDCMP is near zero, due to the inefficiency > > of the protocol > > And how would you know this. Do you statistics to back up your > assertion? Or would you just be stating an opinion? Do you know every > Linux user personally and do you do scans of all ip networks? I think > not. Whether the protocol is inefficient or not..it's in wide enough > use that the vulnerability was announced.. The protocol is not in widespread use, or better not used at all, due to the inherent inefficiency it has on high latency networks. And that is not an opinion, is how things are. The fact you see very little connection attempts on your box for X port is a proof enogh: cracker and worm writers go for much more useful targets than this (ones where you don't have to be a Kerberos authenticated user to get in as root, for example.. ;-) And finally, the vulnerability was announced because ALL of them are announced in open source projects. Not because it was especially important or urgent to fix. > I'm not in any kind of situation with KDM or any other GUI login > manager because they are a waste in my opinion but as I said > earlier I'm more worried about those who don't work like I do > or think as I do. Well, I'm sure anyone who was able to put up a Kerberos authenticated, network distributed X login system is wise enough to watch after himself. My point was that it's not a "default configuration", nor a simple one to set up unless you know very well what you are doing. That is the main reason I don't think this fix is urgent. That said, I think your reasoning that we should also worry for other users out there is perfectly right. I don't want to end up like on Microsoft OSes... ;-) > >Then, why do you think this is an _important_ security upgrade? > > Security is security..one doesn't pick and choose. If it has the ability > to be problem then it should be fixed. Period. Security means assessing the risks and, if you have to make a choice, to fix the more dangerous ones before the less dangerous ones. And that's exacly what's happening in this case, in my opinion. > The picking and choosing of what security issues to address would > be the cause of the constant messages that I see scrolling in my tail window... I beg to differ on this, also... Fixes for all security problems are always released, even by Microsoft. It's the poor security culture in many users and "sysadmins" that DO NOT INSTALL FIXES that's causing so much cruft in our logs. Worm writers and script kiddies know this, and so they go out trying, since they'll find something for sure. > so many so that I might as well not even tail my procmail or fetchmail > logs because the firewall log just shoves them past to fast. Try using grep to filter out unwanted messages... works wonders ;-) I usually log ALL incoming connection with SuSEfirewall. I simply strip firewall's messages with a "grep -v SuSE-FW" when I'm looking for other programs' messages Ciao, Roberto

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www failure
by Ted 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

I have a problem....My suse distro had no problems at all with mail ,news or browsing yesterday but for some reason I cannot get any of these now... I have not altered any files but for some reason I connect to my isp ok...I see the packets flowing yet I cannot d/load anything...There is nothing in /var/log/messages to give me a clue either...I am sending this from my libranet partition which seems to be ok...Any suggestions appreciated.. -- Regards Ted Wager Using Libranet Linux

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Toshiba DVD-RAM SD-W2002 formatting
by expatriate 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Hello I'm running 8.2 and the only way I've been able to "format" this device is by issuing the command: mkfs /dev/hdb which yields the message: "/dev/hdb is entire device, not just one partition!" "Proceed anyway? (y,n)" I proceed anyway and I'm able to mount it and write to it. Questions: 1) This is the only IDE device without partitions. Is this normal? I was not able to affect it in any way using the fdisk utility. 2) Is anyone using this device with a 9.4GB DVD-RAM disk? Can anyone format to this capacity? TIA & cheers

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kernel memory leak?
by Kastus 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Hi, I'm seeing a strange problem on SuSE 8.2 with kernel k_deflt-2.4.20-100. This is a Celeron 1.3G 512MB RAM system running 8.2 with all current updates. After a fresh boot, free reports about 30 MB used. Then, if I run something disk-intensive (e.g. rsync a reiserfs file system on a 20GB partition from one disk to another), used memory grows to about 400MB: total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 514956 508348 6608 0 29792 60828 -/+ buffers/cache: 417728 97228 Swap: 987988 6736 981252 Another way to cause memory consumption to grow is to run a du command on a relatively big (20GB) filesystem. What is strange, ps does not show any processes with memory allocated that big. I'm not using KDE, I run windowmaker and a couple of xterms in it. Whatever I tried, the memory is not released. I exited from X, I logged out, used memory is still the same and slightly growing. I was able to reproduce this situation on another 8.2 installation, a dual P3-1G 1GB RAM system, by running a du on a root file system 75GB in size. So what is that? A memory leak in kernel? Did anybody else see anything similar? Thanks, -Kastus

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Dumping RPM list from Suse8.1
by Michael.James＠csiro.au 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Anyone know how to dump the RPM package list under Suse8.1? I can see the Yast:Software:Install and Remove Software:File:Export entry in Suse8.2, but where is something like it in 8.1? Am I back to rpm -qa > RPM.list ?? BTW I want to be able to snarf it back into a Suse 8.2 install... ie: Yast:Software:Install and Remove Software:File:Import -- Michael James michael.james(a)csiro.au System Administrator voice: 02 6246 5040 CSIRO Bioinformatics Facility fax: 02 6246 5166

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KDE 3.1.4 ?
by Gerrit Jan Eldering 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Why no KDE 3.1.4. for SuSE.....???? Who tell's me....... -- GJ Eldering SuSELINUX 8.2 KDE 3.1.3 k_athlon 2.4.20-100-athlon

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DRI on ATI Rage Mobility M3
by Nick LeRoy 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Hello, all... I have a Dell Inspiron 4000 with a Mobility M3, and, for the life of me, I can't get DRI working on it. Gears complains about no DRI, and then gets ~100 FPS: nleroy@host:~> gears Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". 514 frames in 5.000 seconds = 102.800 FPS Tuxracer complains similarly... XFree86 detects it as: (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x rev 2, Mem @ 0xe4000000/26, 0xfdffc000/14, I/O @ 0xec00/8 SaX setup XFree86 to load GLX and DRI, and, from looking at the log, it appears that they're loaded correctly. Actually, that's not quite true. I can't really get SaX2 to generate a correct config because I need to add a 'option "Display" "BIOS"' by hand to the device line to get it to display at all. It appears that DRI and GLX are being properly loaded, however. Relevant info: nleroy@host:~> rpm -q XFree86 XFree86-4.3.0-111 nleroy@host:~> rpm -q k_deflt k_deflt-2.4.20-100 On a whim, I've tried loading the r128 module by hand, to no avail: nleroy@host:~> /sbin/lsmod | head Module Size Used by Not tainted r128 81396 0 (unused) agpgart 35520 1 (autoclean) I've tried running switchxf86_glx & 3Ddiag: host:~ # 3Ddiag 3Ddiag version 0.691 Verifying 3D configuration: Using 3dinfo ************************************************************ Verifying 3D configuration based on XFree86 4 for 3D board "ATI Technologies Inc Mobility M3 AGP 2x (1002@4c46)": Tests for package "XFree86-GLX": package ... done. package files ... done. Tests for correct OpenGL libraries/GLX extensions: Symbolic Links ... done. /etc/sysconfig/3ddiag (SCRIPT_3D=switch2xf86_glx) ... done. Test for correct XFree86 version ... done. Tests for XFree86 configuration: Config File /etc/X11/XF86Config ... done. Driver ... done. Color Depth ... done. Extensions ... done. Options ... done. ----------------------- NOTE ----------------------------------- If 3D hardware OpenGL configuration is not stable enough, you should switch back to 'Mesa Software Rendering'. You can verify this configuration with the command "3Ddiag --mesasoft". ----------------------- NOTE ----------------------------------- Checking GLU/glut runtime configuration: GLU ... done (package mesaglu) glut ... done (package mesaglut) Googling around shows that other people seem to be having similar problems, but I haven't found any answers. I can provide my entire XF86Config and XFree86.0.log, in case they're helpful. I will post a couple of snippets in line, however: Section "Module" Load "type1" Load "speedo" Load "extmod" Load "freetype" Load "glx" Load "dri" EndSection -- and -- (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (II) Module glx: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "GLcore" (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a (II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a (II) Module dri: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "drm" (II) LoadModule: "drm" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a (II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "r128" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o (II) Module r128: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 4.0.1 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) LoadModule: "ati" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o (II) Module ati: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 6.4.18 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 If anybody could offer any insight into what I have configured wrong, need to install, etc., I'd be greatly appreciative. Thanks in advance! -Nick

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Canon PowerShot G3 USB camera in SuSE8.2 Linux?
by Alex Daniloff 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Hello SuSE folkz, Could somebody tell or point me to the right source of information on how to enable Canon PowerShot G3 USB camera in SuSE 8.2 Linux. Gtcam app. sees this camera and recognizes it correctly, but it gives initialization errors when I try to load or just see the pictures. Many thanks in advance. Alex

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upgrading packages
by Tom Allison 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

I've been using YOU for a while now and realized that it was not upgrading all the available packages from the mirrors based on what I was seeing in the Install Package section of Yast2. I guess it's only for more critical updates? How do you upgrade packages (all packages) automatically from the mirrors? Or do you have to manually go through the list?

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