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RE: [SLE] so OT it hurts...Merry Christmas!
by Stephen Villano 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

I've felt a bit smacked around a bit regarding some of the rather mild flames and one rather inane response that left me wondering if that was the same mouth he French kissed his mother with (fair is fair, *HE* brought *MY* deceased by one year and two weeks mother into it)... I've also felt quite the ass once the story was shown to be BS... However, what I said *IS* my opinion. The bitch of it is that I also agree with the stolen oil argument, I just didn't want to confuse some political issues with military ones... GWB is a total idiot. Complete package. This, from one of his own party to boot. :/ First focus: Forget getting the people water in the summer 130-140 degree F heat, make sure the oil is flowing. We must endear the populace to us... The frigging phones over there *STILL* don't work worth a damn, though militarily it makes a great deal of sense... For our Whitehouse, all I can say is that the keystone cops are in command. I agree with moving in and removing the existing ruler of Iraq, not because of "proof of possession of WMD", but because of two reasons: One it was long overdue DUE to material breaches of the cease fire. Two: Though the people of Iraq don't DESERVE a better ruler (people deserve the ruler they tolerate), they SHOULD get a better offering as a matter of convince to the rest of the entire region as well as the world. Let's just hope that that new government takes better care of their PEOPLE instead of themselves or other governments due to perceived debts... Still, this is BEYOND OT here. We really SHOULD find a better venue for this as I rather feel bad about *MY* inflammatory (or is it onfamatoury) contribution to this thread. This *IS* a SuSE linux list. I also didn't get a response to one question in *MY* rather heated original response when asking about sparc releases... As for those who want to continue the regrettable political responses, MY god can beat up you god any day. We'll have them meet in the playground Monday after school to prove it... Seriously though, if you want a political forum, I'll set up a listserv for it and we'll turn into another UN with it. Let's take this off this list totally, it is FAR beyond. And as for what an American company will do to SuSE: We can only HOPE for the best whilst preparing for the worst... :/ PLEASE don't unsubscribe due to my personal lapse in discipline here, I've been on this list for a long time and will do my best to NOT turn this into another warzone. Happy Holidays to all who participate. And to those who don't, have a pleasant season! (Sorry that doesn't sound better, but I'm FAR from a diplomat.) -----Original Message----- From: Donald Henson [mailto:wepin@wepin.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 9:50 AM To: SuSE Linux E Subject: Re: [SLE] so OT it hurts...Merry Christmas! My only question is should I unsubscribe from this list now or should I wait until this threads turns into a full-fledge flame war? Don Henson On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 02:23, mwafkowski wrote: > To the original poster et al: > > Fuck You, Fuck Your Mother and Fuck the Hole you and your subhuman > compatriots crawled out of... > > MRW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William G. Westfall" <wgwestfall1(a)hotpop.com> > To: "Stephen Villano" <steve(a)LWR.yi.org> > Cc: "Suse-Linux-E@Suse. Com (E-mail)" <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 3:56 AM > Subject: RE: [SLE] so OT it hurts...Merry Christmas! > > > > You didn't read it man... Your reply was in english not german! > > > > On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 00:11, Stephen Villano wrote: > > > > > I *REALLY* feel your pain. Especially around the ribs from the belly > > > laughs... > > > Been saying much of the same for years. Probably why I haven't been > promoted > > > as I'm not "progressive". I come from a much older Army. The one that > meets > > > the enemy and kills the hell out of them, thereby not having any more > > > enemies (or at least the few remaining are sufficiently frightened as to > not > > > cause the nation any trouble). > > > That doesn't mean I want to go to war "at the drop of a hat", I'm a > > > professional. As such there must be sufficient reason to wish to break > the > > > peace. I'll advise against an ill conceived military action. I will > follow > > > orders, but any objection will be quite well documented... > > > Frankly, professional soldiers are the *LAST* people who wish to visit > harm > > > against another human. However, once the necessity is present visit said > > > harm with vehemence. > > > I've shaken hands and tipped back a drink with an officer who some > > > years before was shooting at me as we are no longer dire enemies. We > were > > > both professionals and acknowledged that past was past, we were both > doing > > > our jobs for our respective nations. > > > Has our nation done wrong in the past? Will it do so again in the > > > future? How about a simpler question: Are we human? > > > We'll make mistakes. We made some MAJOR ones in the past, current events > are > > > the direct result of some of them. I'm certain we'll make them in the > > > future, we haven't stopped being human. > > > The second biggest test is what we'll do about them in between to > prevent > > > another disaster. The biggest test is what we'll do about them if we > *CAN'T* > > > prevent another disaster. > > > I've found that you can tell a LOT more about a person NOT when things > are > > > at their best, but indeed when things are at their absolute worst. > > > Now if only we could learn as a species to bring the best of ourselves > > > displayed during a disaster forward to our normal existence... > > > > > > Sorry for the long OT bit, just HAD to vent... > > > > > > Closer to topic: 9.0 is the best thing to come out since they put > handles on > > > popsicles. > > > I am a bit confused though if the sparc platform is available in a > current > > > version... > > > > > > Gonna try playing with the 2.6 kernel as soon as I can shoehorn in some > time > > > on my calendar... > > > > > > Happy holidays to all, for those who don't observe our holidays: Have a > > > pleasant, peaceful and prosperous year. > > > And to those few who can't even observe the latter: Welcome to my > world... > > > ;) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: William G. Westfall [mailto:wgwestfall1@hotpop.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 1:42 AM > > > To: suse-linux-e(a)lists.suse.com > > > Subject: [SLE] so OT it hurts...Merry Christmas! > > > > > > > > > General speaks out > > > > > > Merry Christmas; > > > > > > I thought that you might enjoy quoting General Hawley over the holidays. > > > This four-star says it pretty well. > > > > > > > > > For those who don't know General Hawley, he's a newly retired USAF > > > 4-star general. He commanded the USAF Air Combat Command [our front-line > > > fighters and bombers]. The Command headquarters is at Langley AFB, VA. > > > General Hawley is now retired and no longer required to be politically > > > correct. His short speech is very much to the point. The following are > > > excerpts: > > > > > > > > > "Since the attack [9-11], I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such > > > surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them too. > > > > > > "Here they are: > > > > > > 1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative." Listen > > > carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me > > > now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't > > > mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy > > > on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country > > > has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be > > > the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in > > > history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what > > > happens. > > > > > > 2) "Violence only leads to more violence." This one is so stupid you > > > usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it. > > > Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already: > > > Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky, > > > half-measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully > > > thought-through, professional, well-executed violence never leads to > > > more violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead. > > > That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "re-educated," not "nurtured > > > back into the bosom of love." Dead. D-E --Well, you get the idea. > > > > > > 3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community have failed us." > > > For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the > > > ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not > > > protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee > > > Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided > > > that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy > > > satellites. "After all (they reasoned), you can see a license plate from > > > 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a > > > license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding humans > > > is not possible with satellites. You have to use other humans. When we > > > bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the > > > really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans > > > into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks > > > like Gary Busey in a Spring Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a > > > coffee shop in Kabul and say "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet > > > that bin Laden fella. "Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is giving > > > the bad guys a story they'll be telling for years. > > > > > > 4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry at > > > us." Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a > > > desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer than > > > Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor helpless > > > people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay in > > > power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes > > > into the killing grounds is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew > > > this, too. In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching > > > against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any > > > cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend > > > more time drinking. It's the same today. > > > > > > 5) "Any profiling is racial profiling." Who's killing us here, the > > > Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an > > > article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden > > > family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff, > > > never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm > > > crushed. Please come back. Let's all stop singing "We Are the World" for > > > a minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the floor > > > in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt. Rushmore and > > > turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't > > > offend them." > > > > > > So here's what I resolve for the New Year: Never to forget our murdered > > > brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists get away with their > > > immoral thinking. After all, no matter what your daughter's political > > > science professor says, we didn't start this. Have you seen that bumper > > > sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "No > > > More Pearl Harbors." > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) > Version: 6.0.554 / Virus Database: 346 - Release Date: 12/22/03 > -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com

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Latest nVidia driver (5328) for Linux
by Basil Chupin 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

Guess what? It works. What went wrong? But before installing, get/read the HOW-TO from the Suse ftp site- ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/XFree86/ . Cheers. -- Wagner's music is really not as bad as it sounds.

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cpudyn
by Benjamí Villoslada 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

New cpudyn version works fine with SuSE: http://bulma.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1946 -- Benjamí http://bitassa.com .

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SuperKaramba
by Adolph & Sharon Weidanz 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am looking for superkaramba .33 in a suse 9.0 rpm. I would appreciate if someone could send it or tell me where I might download it. the site : http://www.marcooo.de/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1882 isn't up and I don't know how long before it is. I did try compiling from source, but ran into way to many problems, so I just would like to get the rpm.. Thanks - -- Adolph & Sharon Weidanz S/V Time To Paws 43' 1978 Endeavour Ketch -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) iD8DBQE/7z5QlC+PSm9+eB0RAms4AJ42Zh4uVLfXOq94VtJuyhxIWEKSQwCfSvSv hiEOjQKqpHfhAIvl0sC06pY= =cYWN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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USB sorta working: 9.0, Asus A7V8X
by David Kramer 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

Fairly recent SuSE 9.0 Pro install, Asus A7V8X motherboard, Athlon 2400+ CPU. The motherboard has six USB2.0 ports and three firewire ports. I'm having trouble with most, but not all, USB devices. I have a Dazzle multiformat card which works with CF cards but not SD cards, which is what I really want. I also have a Sandisk Cruzer 256MN USB thumb drive, and a external USB2.0 IDE enclosure. Both devices work on a Red Hat 9 box I have, and under Windows. The strange thing is that the devices are seen on the USB bus, but I can't access them, no matter how I try. The relevant section of /proc/bus/usb is: C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=256ms T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=02 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=480 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=0781 ProdID=8185 Rev= 1.25 S: Manufacturer=SanDisk Corporation S: Product=Cruzer Mini S: SerialNumber=000182341 The output of lsusb is: Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 051d:0002 American Power Conversion Back-UPS Pro 500 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0781:8185 SanDisk Corp. However, if I try "fdisk -l /dev/sda", or "cdrecord -scanbus", or "mount /dev/ sda1", those programs just hang indefinitely. I can't kill -9 it, but if I kill -9 the shell, it dies. I've STFW and seen references to USB problems due to IRQ problems. cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 86658338 XT-PIC timer 1: 30031 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 2 XT-PIC rtc 9: 259461 XT-PIC acpi, DE450-TA (eth0), ehci_hcd, usb-uhci, usb-uhci, usb-uhci 10: 2236 XT-PIC eth1, ohci1394 11: 7332626 XT-PIC EMU10K1, radeon@PCI:1:0:0 12: 388710 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 14: 1364913 XT-PIC ide0 15: 269 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 LOC: 0 ERR: 422 MIS: 0 I've also tried turning off ACPI in grub, and disabling as much on-motherboard hardware as possible. I don't know why it says radeon@PCI:1:0:0, when my video card is a ATI AIW 7500 AGP card, though. Hope I gave enough information/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DDDD David Kramer david(a)thekramers.net http://thekramers.net DK KD DKK D Shop smart! Shop S-Mart DK KD DDDD

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Reboot problems on ThinkPad
by James Knott 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

I suppose this would be better sent to the suse-laptop list, but I don't speak German. I have an IBM ThinkPad R31, loaded with SuSE 9.0 and XP. When I reboot the computer, using the reboot command or from the "Logout" panel, after reboot, the computer will stop loading the OS part way through , either with Linux or XP. If I do a full power down halt and then power up again, both OSs will load normally. It would appear that SuSE is not properly shutting things down, when rebooting. XP does not have any such problems, when rebooting to either XP or Linux. Any ideas? tnx jk

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nvidia or framebuffer
by steve-ss 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

I just got a nvidia board with 128 Mb. The framebuffer (the one you choose if your card isn't correctly recognised I've just learned) is much faster than the custom 9.0 driver. Is this correct or should I keep going with sax2? Oh, and how do I find out if sax2 has actually found the correct board? Cheers, Steve.

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RE: [SLE] Problems Installing 9.0 on Netserver LC3 w/ NetRAID 3si Card
by Craig Herring 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

I have the same problem except we have a server with an Adaptec 2010S ZCR RAID card configured with 2x36GB and 3x72GB drives. Trying to boot using the 2x36GB as RAID 1. Try disabling acpi Boot using the option acpi=off Craig Herring -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Powell [mailto:stuart@yorkshirepudding.com] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 12:23 AM To: SuSE Linux List Subject: [SLE] Problems Installing 9.0 on Netserver LC3 w/ NetRAID 3si Card Hello, everyone. I just tried a couple of times to install 9.0 on a spare HP Netserver LC3 I have here. The two 9GB hard drives are mirrored via the NetRAID 3si card. I understand this card is an LSI MegaRAID 438 card, and as such have tried using the megaraid2 driver. The installation goes OK, although I had to manually select the RAID driver as it wasn't autodetected. Partitioning seems to go OK, and the packages all install, but after the first boot, there's a kernel panic. I don't see the RAID driver being loaded, and the panic occurs as the system fails to mount / from sda2. Has anyone had success with this setup ? I have an identical machine that I plan to install SLOX4.1 onto this week, and this problem concerns me somewhat. I bought the 3si card as it was the only HP RAID card that shows up in the SuSE hardware database, and it shows as being fully supported. Bye for now, Stuart. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com

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Feedback: SuSEWatcher
by Benjamí Villoslada 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

Seems that probably the problem is almost strange, because I don't have located information in Internet about this problem: Don't appear many of the hadware icons in my desktop. Durning the first month of my new SuSE 8.2 (migration from Red Hat) I have those icons: - CD-ROM - CD-RW - disc2 (hdc2) - C (hdc1, windows) - Floppy - Scanner - SDA (USB CompactFlash Adapter, since I've mounted it) When I open a new account, I have all of those icons and is correct, but my main account have lost all icons except disc2 and Floppy. When I run SuSEWatcher from the command line, always starts with this error: benjami@itaca:~> susewatcher ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! In .xsession-errors I see those new lines with every SuSEWatcher launch: cp: missing destination file Try `cp --help' for more information. cp: missing destination file Try `cp --help' for more information. cp: missing destination file Try `cp --help' for more information. cp: missing destination file Try `cp --help' for more information. I've tried to delete the ~/.kde/share/apps/susewatcher directory, and have good news: when I starts SuSEWatcher I can see more icons: cd-rom, cd-r, floppy and disc 2... but scanner, windows and SDA don't appears. If I unplug and plug the USB scanner, the screen makes one refresh, but with no new icons: the scanner doesn't appears. Here my mount: benjami@itaca:~> mount /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620,gid=5) /dev/hdc1 on /windows/C type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,gid=100,umask=0002,nls=iso8859-1) /dev/hdc2 on /disc2 type xfs (rw) shmfs on /dev/shm type shm (rw) usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) and fstab: benjami@itaca:~> cat /etc/fstab /dev/hda2 / ext3 defaults 1 1 /dev/hdc1 /windows/C ntfs ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/hda1 swap swap pri=42 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs noauto 0 0 /dev/sdb4 /media/zip auto noauto,user 0 0 /dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecorder auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto noauto,user,sync 0 0 /dev/hdc2 /disc2 xfs defaults 1 2 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto noauto,user,exec 0 0 #HOTPLUG B3Fu.fiGL8xhTHh6 benjami@itaca:~> susewatcher --version Qt: 3.1.1 KDE: 3.1.1 SuSEWatcher: 3.1.1 Thanks :) -- Benjamí http://bitassa.com Outlook Users Disclaimer: All rights reserved for my email address. In order to avoid Outlook viruses, you are not allowed to store it in your address book or email folders. .

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Sound problems (SuSE 9) [SOLVED]
by elefino 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

A tip for people who have sound problems after installing SuSE 9, and who have been told by more experienced people in [SLE] to login as root and to run alsaconfig: NOTE, the suggestion does NOT mean for you to open a console from KDE or GNOME and then "su - root". I tried that (because that's how I do almost all other "root" activity). When I ran alsaconfig from that environment (even though I had tried to find and close any program that might wish to use alsa...) it hung. When I closed down the gui(s) and logged in as root from text-only terminal, alsaconf ran properly and produced a test sound. When I logged back in as myself, running KDE, I was getting SOUND from my CDs again. Woohoo!! /kevin (listening to Beethoven's Eroica, finally)

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