May 2002 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

re[2]: [SLE] Using cygwin/Xfree-86 to access Suse
by Greg Freemyer 28 May '02

28 May '02

If I understand it, Xfree86 was moved into the basic cygwin release a couple of weeks ago, so you don't have to do anything special to get it. I would guess it was removed from the dedicated part of the mirrors at that time. As far as adding options after the fact, it is fairly easy. At some point when you run setup, you get a list of the packages you have installed. On this screen, there is button on the top right labelled "view". This apparently means "view all". Anyway, if you click on it, you get a list of all the packages, not just the installed ones. >> This sounds great guys but I assume that you've found an ftp server that >> offers the X subsystem ? >> When I ran setup last week, every ftp site I connected to (and I tried 7 >> of them) said that X was n/a. >> I assumed then that only the base Cygwin installation was avaiable so >> went with that. An interesting diversion but without the X client it's >> no better than telnet from a Win98 box for me. >> Am I looking in the wrong place ? >> I also can't seem to find a way to add features without re-installing >> the whole shooting match ...? >> Thanks, >> Damian >> Steinar Saetre wrote: >> > >> > Try : >> > kde & >> > in Your ssh terminal. >> > It works for me.. >> > ss >> > >> > On Friday 24 May 2002 19:11, Greg Freemyer wrote: >> > > Guys, >> > > >> > > Someone recently suggested XFree-86 under Cygwin is the best way to >> access >> > > the SuSE GUI. >> > > >> > > I've installed it and I can: >> > > >> > > startxwin.sh >> > > xhost + >> > > ssh SuSE-box >> > > DISPLAY=... >> > > xeyes >> > > >> > > and it works. >> > > >> > > What I prefer to do, is run the whole KDE desktop via XFree-86, but I >> > > forgotten the command. >> > > >> > > I thought it was "XWin -query server_name", but that is not working. >> > > >> > > Can someone give me that again? >> > > >> > > Thanks >> > > Greg >> > > ===== >> > > Greg Freemyer >> > > Internet Engineer >> > > Deployment and Integration Specialist >> > > Compaq ASE - Tru64 >> > > Compaq Master ASE - SAN Architect >> > > The Norcross Group >> > > www.NorcrossGroup.com >> > >> > -- >> > To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >> > For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com >> > Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com >> -- >> Damian O'Hara using: SuSE Linux 8.0 >> 9:26am up 24 days, 19:58, 15 users, load average: 0.03, 0.18, 0.15 >> -- >> To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >> For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com >> >> Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Greg Freemyer Internet Engineer Deployment and Integration Specialist Compaq ASE - Tru64 Compaq Master ASE - SAN Architect The Norcross Group www.NorcrossGroup.com

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re[2]: [SLE] Using cygwin/Xfree-86 to access Suse
by Greg Freemyer 28 May '02

28 May '02

First, Thanks Steinar. It is working for me now, but it is not working cleanly yet. I'll worry about that later though. For Doug, What I was attempting, and have now just done for the first time is run KDE on the SuSE box, but display it on my Win98 box. (I'm too lazy to walk into the other room.) I don't know if there is a Cygwin KDE port or not. The below steps worked for me and do what I wanted: 1) Install XFree86 as part of the standard/base Cygwin release. 2) cd /usr/X11R6/bin 3) ./startxwin.sh 4) Wait for a bash window to open up inside a X display. Inside the new window: 5) ./xhost + # This disables all access checks to your X display. If you are not in a secure environment, you can be specific about who you allow access. 6) ssh suse_server # connect to you suse box in text mode. In the same window, but now on the SuSE box: 7) DISPLAY="10.0.0.x:0.0" # This is the IP of your Windows box, followed by :0.0 to say which X instance to use. 8) export DISPLAY 9) kde Steps 7 & 8 should not be required, but something is apparently wrong on my box, or with the generic X/ssh setup. >> Whoa, back up here! You guys are way ahead of me. >> I have cygwin installed on my machine at work, to play with, >> more than anything. (I would like to learn C with it.) >> Somehow, I got what appeared to be X up, but with NO >> GUI, just a gray screen with an X cursor. >> I'm not really sure what I did to do that, but it was NOT >> "startx." Now you folks are mentioning KDE--where do you get >> KDE for cygwin, or what binaries must be compiled to run it, >> or--you get the idea--I'm 10 paces behind! >> --doug >> At 09:31 05/27/2002 +0000, Damian Ohara wrote: >> >This sounds great guys but I assume that you've found an ftp server that >> >offers the X subsystem ? >> > >> >When I ran setup last week, every ftp site I connected to (and I tried 7 >> >of them) said that X was n/a. >> > >> >I assumed then that only the base Cygwin installation was avaiable so >> >went with that. An interesting diversion but without the X client it's >> >no better than telnet from a Win98 box for me. >> > >> >Am I looking in the wrong place ? >> > >> >I also can't seem to find a way to add features without re-installing >> >the whole shooting match ...? >> > >> >Thanks, >> > >> >Damian >> > >> > >> >Steinar Saetre wrote: >> >> >> >> Try : >> >> kde & >> >> in Your ssh terminal. >> >> It works for me.. >> >> ss >> >> >> >> On Friday 24 May 2002 19:11, Greg Freemyer wrote: >> >> > Guys, >> >> > >> >> > Someone recently suggested XFree-86 under Cygwin is the best way to >> access >> >> > the SuSE GUI. >> >> > >> >> > I've installed it and I can: >> >> > >> >> > startxwin.sh >> >> > xhost + >> >> > ssh SuSE-box >> >> > DISPLAY=... >> >> > xeyes >> >> > >> >> > and it works. >> >> > >> >> > What I prefer to do, is run the whole KDE desktop via XFree-86, but I >> >> > forgotten the command. >> >> > >> >> > I thought it was "XWin -query server_name", but that is not working. >> >> > >> >> > Can someone give me that again? >> >> > >> >> > Thanks >> >> > Greg >> >> > ===== >> >> > Greg Freemyer >> >> > Internet Engineer >> >> > Deployment and Integration Specialist >> >> > Compaq ASE - Tru64 >> >> > Compaq Master ASE - SAN Architect >> >> > The Norcross Group >> >> > www.NorcrossGroup.com >> >> >> >> -- >> >> To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >> >> For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com >> >> Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com >> > >> >-- >> >Damian O'Hara using: SuSE Linux 8.0 >> >9:26am up 24 days, 19:58, 15 users, load average: 0.03, 0.18, 0.15 >> > >> >-- >> >To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >> >For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com >> >> >Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com >> > >> -- >> To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >> For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com >> >> Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Greg Freemyer Internet Engineer Deployment and Integration Specialist Compaq ASE - Tru64 Compaq Master ASE - SAN Architect The Norcross Group www.NorcrossGroup.com

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re: [SLE] Slightly OT - UNIX S. analysts
by Greg Freemyer 28 May '02

28 May '02

Gelah, It sounds like the job you are considering requires 4 things: 1) Basic UNIX admin - create users, install pre-compiled software, worry about security, handle disk storage and tape backup, make sure everything is running smoothly. 2) Write simple C programs and install OSS software: As you know most OSS software is tested with LInux, but it is not unusual for a few tweaks to be needed to get it to install on Commercial UNIX boxes. i.e. "./configure; make; make install" is often the standard install method of OSS software on a commercial UNIX box and the C code often has a few problems. 3) Writing scripts (shell, perl, awk, etc.) - It seems like there is always a reason to write a script. Most that I write are called by cron. A few from a webserver. Others are manually invoked. 4) Support a database. You typically don't need to be an expert on databases to do this, but it is good to know how to create tables/fields, and do a few basics. If a lot of DB work is required, the company should have a DBA. You might find it interesting to browse http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/tru64-unix-managers/ It is a mailing list like this one, but it supports Tru64, which is the #4 Commercial UNIX for RISC platforms. BTW: TruClusters is the clustering solution for Tru64, so a lot of what you see at the above will be questions related to using it. Greg Freemyer Internet Engineer Deployment and Integration Specialist Compaq ASE - Tru64 Compaq Master ASE - SAN Architect The Norcross Group www.NorcrossGroup.com >> Dear linux-e: >> I mainly use Windows @ work. Although I use UNIX/Linux >> @ home, never worked with them before. I'm trying to >> take a UNIX systems analyst position. I'll have test & >> interview. I know little C/perl, & never used UNIX >> database. This job needs database/C++/perl, etc. What >> do UNIX systems anlysts do? Which sites can help me? >> thanks >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >> http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com >> -- >> To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >> For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com >> >> Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com

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Help with USB
by Martin Richard 28 May '02

28 May '02

Hi! Probably someone can help me. I have an Epson Perfection 1650 USB Scanner. I have Suse Linux 8.0 and VMWare installed on it. All is working. When I try to use my scanner in Windows that is installed in VMWare, I got a message about usbscanner. The message is the following: The specified device appears to be claimed by another driver (usbscanner) on the host operating system which means that the device may be in use. VMware Workstation cannot safely take control of the device until the host driver is unloaded. What should I do? Unload the driver? How can I do it? And if after I want to use it in Linux, how to enable it? Thanks Martin

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Startup scripts for spong?
by KEVIN ZEMBOWER 28 May '02

28 May '02

Does anyone have startup scripts for the network monitoring program spong (http://spong.sourceforge.net/) that they could post and share? I searched the subjects of suse-linux-e for the past six months, but couldn't find a reference to spong. There's no entry in the support database for spong, either. It doesn't seem to be in my 7.2 distribution. Thank you for your help and generosity. -Kevin Zembower ----- E. Kevin Zembower Unix Administrator Johns Hopkins University/Center for Communications Programs 111 Market Place, Suite 310 Baltimore, MD 21202 410-659-6139

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Re: [SLE] Power Down
by James.Rocks＠equant.com 28 May '02

28 May '02

Hi, I am unable to make my box power down with SuSE 8.0 ... I assumed it was my motherboard (ASUSTek P4/1.7 RAID) J. James C. Rocks Equant Archway House Canary Wharf London E14 9SZ Phone: 0207-5226856 Fax: 0207-5126087 Mobile Phone: 07771-767405 http://www.equant.com

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Re: [SLE] Kde 3.0.1 - When is going to be available ?
by James.Rocks＠equant.com 28 May '02

28 May '02

Hi, How do you get to YaST Update? J. James C. Rocks Equant Archway House Canary Wharf London E14 9SZ Phone: 0207-5226856 Fax: 0207-5126087 Mobile Phone: 07771-767405 http://www.equant.com This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient or an authorized representative of an intended recipient, you are prohibited from using, copying or distributing the information in this e-mail or its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you. suse_ground_zero <suse(a)aspec.ro> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com cc: 28/05/2002 07:40 Subject: [SLE] Kde 3.0.1 - When is going to be available ? Hey ! I think that un update for kde 3.0.1 should be available thru Yast Online Update respecting the tradition of the 'optional' kde 2.2.2 update from 2.2.0 package for version 7.3. If this is not in your plans right now ... please release a tutorial or an how-to make this update manually. 10x -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com

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Re: [SLE] Breaking Out To Command Line?
by James.Rocks＠equant.com 28 May '02

28 May '02

Hi Doc, In theory all you do is wait until you get to the X login prompt then press [Ctrl], [Alt] & [F1] (or F2 to 6). Another way is to press [Esc] at the SuSE boot screen and then (where it says "Linux" at the bottom add [space] & a "3" then hit [Enter] ... hope that helps :-) J. James C. Rocks Equant Archway House Canary Wharf London E14 9SZ Phone: 0207-5226856 Fax: 0207-5126087 Mobile Phone: 07771-767405 http://www.equant.com This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient or an authorized representative of an intended recipient, you are prohibited from using, copying or distributing the information in this e-mail or its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you. "doc" <e.net(a)verizon.net> To: <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> cc: 25/05/2002 03:36 Subject: [SLE] Breaking Out To Command Line? Please respond to "doc" I am having difficulty figuring out how to break out of the SuSE 8.0 install into a command line so that I may try to force it to recognize my mouse. I get to the x install screen where there are selections for Linux, Linux Safe, Windows, and something else. There is a "Text Mode" option at the bottom but I think I tried that together with Linux Safe and still remained inside the YaST x mode. Help, please? Thanks! doc -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com

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Re: [SLE] Accessing files off NT server
by James.Rocks＠equant.com 28 May '02

28 May '02

Hi Tom, > What's the best way for me to access (read-only) files off my NT > server? Mostly I need to view reports prepared by W2k users and I > don't need to modify them. Only view them. > Right now, I'm thinking of mounting the shared folder on the server, > and linking to the folder where the files are located. I would like to create > a link on my desktop so that when I click it, the folder mounts and the > file opens. Ideas? First of all I am a relative newbie so there may well be better ways of doing this however it is a question I fought for ages to get the answer to. The way I do it is to create a mountpoint (lxmountpoint), usually /mnt/lxmountpoint, and place a shortcut to it on my desktop. Then I use the mount command: mount -t smbfs -o workgroup=<workgroup or domain name>,username =<username>,password=<password> //<W2K/NT Server>/<sharename> /lxmountpoint In practice I place all these mount commands in a file which I call S21Connect (in /root/etc/init.d (putting a shortcut in /root/etc/init.d/rc5.d), preceded (in the file) by the line "#! /bin/sh" and making it executable using "chmod +x S21Connect". I realize there's probably stuff there that you already know but I wasn't sure ... hope it helps :-) James ****************** James C. Rocks Equant Archway House Canary Wharf London E14 9SZ Phone: 0207-5226856 Fax: 0207-5126087 Mobile Phone: 07771-767405 http://www.equant.com

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Managing Server From A Distance
by Nick Selby 28 May '02

28 May '02

Hi, everyone, We're working on a project where we would be placing a machine loaded with Suse 8.0 to act as a web server within a server farm at our contractor's location. The contractor has several Sun Solaris machines, and we're touting our idea as a way in which they can experiment with Open Source without changing their current setup until they see how ours works. They will provide connectivity to the internet and physical security as well as their firewall. We would maintain the machine remotely. The website it would be running is an ecommerce site running on Apache/PHP/MySql. We expect that traffic will be in the neighborhood of 10,000 users per day. We feel that once we have the machine up and running, sysadmin tasks could be run remotely. But we know that to do this right, we need to think very hard about the best ways to configure everything to minimize problems in the future. We expect that the machine will be a 1.something GHz Pentium processor with a gig of ram and two (or three) 40GB hard drives. The unique data on the primary hard drive would be backed up periodically (probably on an hourly basis) to the secondary drive(s). What are some of the issues we need to consider here? The most immediate concerns we can think of are of a calamitous nature: what happens when the machine has an unforeseen restart and files on the primary drive are corrupted? Can we remotely instruct the machine to boot from the secondary drive? Does anyone else have any (probably hard-won) wisdom on this and other issues we need to be thinking about? With many thanks in advance, Nick

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