June 2001 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Check this out!
by Matthew 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

Cool, hope SuSE wins it http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-06-02-006-20-NW-DP Will it be SuSE 7.2 I wonder? Matt

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[OT] M$ and ipv6
by Christian Klippel 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

hi all, is it really true that m$ is using gpl'd code to implement ipv6 in their products ?? i'm a little confused, maybe i missed something..... if this is true, i can only laugh about them. first they state that open software is against intellectual property (and unamerican, too). then mr. steve completely-dumb ballmer said that, if one is using such software, everything "around" and made with it must be free (of course, only from his point of view, reality is somewhat different....) now they are implementing an activation scheme to protect *their* software. if they really used the ipv6 in that way, the must be hit by some lawyers really soon and strong !!!! THEY are acting "unamerican" and against intellectual propperty by doing so. (btw, what is "american" ?) THEY breaking law by not following the rules of the license under which that ipv6 was made. THEY are making money out of others work without paying them et all, even worse, they denounce and FUDing them !!!! if this is the concept of this company, better they DIE NOW before causing too much damage to everyone !!! greets, chris -- visit me at http://mamalala.de

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Turning off PC Anywhere
by Sundar ＠local 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

I ran nessus against my web server running (SuSE 7.1-kernel 2.4), it came out with a scan that I am running PC Anywhere on the server. I want to get rid of it. How do I do it and from which package did I get this. Cheers!, Sundar

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making SuSE 7.1 to boot only at run level 3
by Sundar ＠local 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

Hello, I want boot my system only at run level 3. Though I change /etc/inittab to boot at run level 3, but somehow it gets changed to runlevel 5 when I do reboot from KDE. Any help is appreciated. Cheers Sundar

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[OT] Questions about editing files with sed and awk
by wilson＠claborn.net 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

Hey, I'm curious about something. First I should say that I haven't actually tried this with awk yet, since I don't know any, but I have tried this with sed: if you run sed on a file, sed spits the results to standard out. If you try to redirect that back into the source file, it fries it and you have an empty file. So my question is, is there a way to /edit/ a file with sed (or awk) directly, without first redirecting it to a tmp file and then catting the tmp file back into the original? P.S. Does anyone have a PDF or HTML version of O'Reilly's Sed & Awk book? ---------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Wilson System Administrator Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com Central Texas IT http://www.centraltexasit.com

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e2fs for Reiser?
by Doug McGarrett 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

There is a nice program, Explore2.exe that lets you read the e2fs from MS Windows. Does anyone know of an equivalent that will let you read a Reiser fs? Thanx --doug

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Re: [SLE] [OT] More info about Windows XP's new Activation scheme
by Sean Akers 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

I'm not aware of any cracks for software using the FlexLM license manager (e.g. Rational Rose and the like). If Flex can produce uncrackable stuff then perhaps Microsoft can as well. Mind you, perhaps the desire to crack Windows XP will be greater than the desire to crack stuff like Rational Rose so perhaps it is not invulnerable. Sean. Christian Klippel <ck(a)big7.net> 02/06/2001 15:51 To: SLE <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> cc: Subject: Re: [SLE] [OT] More info about Windows XP's new Activation scheme <snip> does anyone know a product that hasnt been cracked (or at least where the used scheme was cracked in some other software [i.e. license managers like the one used in softimage]) ?? i dont...... <snip>

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More Linux/Windows Problems
by CM Miller 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

Ok, I tried to -fdsk /dev/hdc7 to fix my Linux, but that didn't work, so I just uninstalled and reinstalled. I did a minimum install and it works just fine. I can see my Windows C: drive where I want to rescue the data. The only problem is that Linux acts like it won't mount my CD Burner drive and my CDROM drive. I right click, and click mount, and I come back with an error. But, if I left click on the drive, then it works? Also, I don't think XRoast loaded on my machine, how do I load that from YAST? I will do some reading up on the manuals this weekend, but anymore help will be great. I'm sure I'm gonna get this. Also, my e-mail response time will be a bit slower, cause my other Windows machine went into DLL hell and I can't access any of the icons on the desktop. When will my computer troubles end? thanks, -Chris Miller

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X Server User Problem
by Stephen＠suse.com 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

I have just finished compiling a program as root. When I logon as a user I can no longer open XWindows. I've atached the entire startx.log file to this message, but I think htat the applicable part is: giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. I'm not a hardware person and will really appreciate some help in restoring my sustem as a user, rather than root. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariant http://web.jadeinc.com/FoundationChem

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[OT] More info about Windows XP's new Activation scheme
by wilson＠claborn.net 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

Sorry I don't have the URL this came from. >Windows Product Activation: More Details >In last month's Windows 2000 Magazine UPDATE Special Edition, I >explained what I knew about the new Windows Product Activation feature >built into Windows XP Professional, Windows XP Home Edition, and the >various flavors of Windows 2002 Server. (In case you missed the >fanfare--Microsoft has revealed the product name of what we've been >calling "Whistler Server"--Windows 2002 Server.) Many of you--hundreds >of you--responded with interesting and helpful insights. A particularly >interesting response came from one of the Microsoft folks working on >product activation, Allen Nieman. Nieman is a product manager in the >Licensing Technologies group. He was kind enough to spend about an hour >and a half with me on the phone to fill in more details about how >product activation works, and I can't thank him enough for his help. >Because I didn't have all of the information about the Windows >activation process last month, I had to speculate a bit, so this month >I'll pass along what he told me. >I'll begin with more specifics about what product activation does. When >you install a product that requires activation, it asks that you >activate it within 30 days (or that's what the final product will do; >it's 14 days in the beta). During the activation process, the OS >inventories your hardware and summarizes it as a single 50-digit string. >The hash is, I'm told, a one-way function, meaning that although a >particular set of hardware will generate a particular set of digits, >reversing it isn't easy, so merely knowing the 50 digits about your >system wouldn't tell me what size and type of hard disk you owned. But >do you believe that's all that Microsoft is gathering? A capture of the >transaction shows that a very small amount of data going over the wire >to Microsoft, so it doesn't look as if Bill is uploading your >portfolio. >Additionally, you can choose to activate your OS by calling Microsoft >and reading the 50-digit number to a carbon-based life form (rather than >sending it to a silicon-based server). The recipient will then read a >42-digit number to you, which you key in to complete your activation. >Unfortunately, that's a one-time-only 42-digit value; should you need to >reinstall the OS on that system, you must call Microsoft to get another >code. >As I explained last month, a Microsoft server then stores your 50-digit >code and your product key in a database. If someone tries to activate a >different machine using your product key, the database will see that >someone's tried to install the same copy of the OS on two different >machines and will refuse to authorize the activation. Additionally, >every time you boot that system, the system recomputes the 50-digit >value and, if it's too different from the one used to activate the >system in the first place, the OS will demand that you once more connect >to the Internet to reactivate your copy. Small hardware changes won't >require reactivation. If, however, you lend your neighbor your Windows >XP CD-ROM and product key and he installs it on his system and tries to >activate it, the Microsoft server will see a radically different set of >hardware trying to activate an already activated copy of Windows XP, and >will tell your neighbor's system not to activate itself. >But how much hardware difference is "too much"? Nieman wouldn't say >because (1) Microsoft hasn't finished Windows XP yet, so anything he'd >say might change, and (2) he didn't want to make life easier for >pirates. A reasonable answer, but I argued that a determined bunch of >people with a closet full of hardware and a day or two to play around >could (and would) soon figure that out, so why not just release the >information anyway? He demurred, but told me to stay tuned, because >Microsoft might publish that information come shipping time anyway. >But what about when I buy a new machine, FDISK the old one, and put my >copy of Windows XP on it--won't Microsoft refuse to activate Windows XP >on that new system, thinking that I'm already running it on my old >system? No, Nieman said--Microsoft will trust you and approve activating >Windows XP on the new system, deactivating it on the old. >Rampant piracy among American small businesses and home users motivates >the whole approach, according to Nieman. Microsoft believes that on the >average, those folks use four copies of a given piece of software but >pay for only one. (The company reckons the ratio outside of the United >States to be even higher.) Microsoft acquired those numbers from the >Business Software Alliance (BSA--see the URL listed at the end of the >column), an organization that finds and fines software pirates. I've >never seen the methodology that led the BSA to those numbers (which have >been floating around for some time), and I personally don't believe >them. That 75 percent of the small office/home office (SOHO) software is >pirated seems a bit farfetched and, I think, insulting. And if Microsoft >truly believes that its home users--you know, the evening and weekend >versions of the people who use its commercial products by day--are >stealing 75 percent of the Microsoft products they use, that degree of >piracy would be pretty important news to Microsoft's stockholders, >wouldn't you think? "Here at Microsoft, we have great products, but >before you invest, you really ought to know that three out of four >people who use our products don't actually pay for them." Shouldn't that >information be in the company's annual report or Securities and Exchange >Commission (SEC) filings? >Actually, beyond what you or I think, it's a matter of law: If Microsoft >believes in those piracy figures, the company must disclose that >information in its SEC filings. But other than one vague reference to >piracy in its 10-K filing for 2000, Microsoft is silent about piracy--no >numbers, percentages, or damages to the bottom line are cited. >No, I'm not suggesting that Microsoft's in violation of investment >regulations for not writing "The Prospectus of Penzance"--because I >believe that the four-to-one ratio is no more than an exaggeration that >provides a convenient bit of self-justification for some industry >pundits. But we are talking legal issues here. After all, I pay for all >of my software because the law tells me to, not necessarily because I >want to. And if the irritation of activation will become part of my life >because of a wave of piracy of that supposed magnitude, surely Microsoft >should alert its investors to that piracy, by law. >And thinking about finances led to another question: What happens if >Microsoft goes out of business? No one could activate copies of Windows >XP. If Microsoft disappeared, so would your ability to use its software >during the inevitable reinstalls. And no, I don't think Microsoft is >going belly-up any time soon (unless it keeps up this product activation >stuff), but Nieman said that he hoped that this product-activation >approach would turn out to be an effective way to protect software >companies of all kinds, including many not as sturdy as Microsoft. I'd >hate to think that if Intuit disappeared, all of a sudden I wouldn't be >able to get to my checkbook or portfolio information! >Despite the many other things to consider, I'm about out of space. I >don't want to sign off, however, without answering a frequent reader >question generated by last month's column. I explained last month that >product activation wouldn't apply to those using Open, Select, or >Enterprise copies, but many of you disagreed, telling me that your Open, >Select, or Enterprise Beta 2 copies require it. According to Microsoft, >that's an issue with the beta only. Nieman said that the final copies of >Windows XP and Windows Server 2002 won't require activation--so scripts, >Ghost, Remote Installation Services (RIS), and the other rollout tools >that we know and love will work without a hitch in Windows NT's latest >incarnation. And when asked whether Windows XP would target SOHOs as a >preparatory step to visiting the activation process on bigger customers >next time, Nieman STRONGLY maintained that Microsoft had no intention of >doing that. The company feels that it has the piracy issues pretty much >under control in large organizations. >I repeat in closing that I fully agree that Microsoft has a right to >defend its copyrighted works; and I hope that the company will continue >to do so. But placing a burden of annoyance on its existing customers >seems unreasonable, particularly when the only reason that Microsoft can >impose product activation is its pre-eminence in the market. As I said >last month, could Microsoft have made such a move when Windows 3.1 came >out? Sure. But we'd have all bought OS/2 instead. And that's the point: >when you've got competition, then you can do a lot of things that you >CAN'T--or at least shouldn't--do once you're a monopoly. >http://www.bsa.org >Mark Minasi >Senior Contributing Editor, Windows 2000 Magazine >help(a)minasi.com ---------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Wilson System Administrator Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com Central Texas IT http://www.centraltexasit.com

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Re: [SLE] Nice program to make tape backups & mirroring
by Sean Akers 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

Augusto wrote: > > The problem with tar is that if a disc gets corrupted or justs blows... you > have to install suse.. and then make the restore (remember that a fresh > suse 7.1 pro takes a looooong loooooong time ....and the you have to > restore the tar..... Yes, but if your disk blows or gets corrupted, you'll have to install SuSE on a brand new disk anyway. I certainly wouldn't continue to use a disk that's prone to corruption. You can always reinstall the OS and any apps you use from CD. It's also a good opportunity to upgrade to the latest SuSE. I'm using 7.0 now, but I was on 6.3 until my last HD went capput. The important stuff you need to backup is your data and possibly your OS setup files e.g. everything in /etc. Most of the time, tape backups are used to restore important data files that user's have deleted by mistake or, when they've cocked something up and want to revert to an old version, to restore old files from a few days before. In my case, this about 99% of the time. Sean.

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Re: [SLE] suse 7.2!!
by Volker Kuhlmann 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

> > (I suddenly don't remember if $* is the correct name for all parameters, > > but some of the other guys on the list should know.) > Indeed it is. :) cough cough sputter... If you don't know why you use "$@" instead of $* make sure you don't work on anything security-related or mission-critical. Sorry if it sounds arrogant, but I'm getting a bit tired of explaining it. Read the bash man page about parsing, quoting and variable expansion. Volker

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Re: SV: [SLE] suse 7.2!!
by Sean Akers 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

Well, there is already a Linux replacement for Exchange and it's better too. It's called Lotus Domino. Unfortunately, the Notes client is M$ only but it is simple and clean enough to run under Linux using Wine. Also, it is possible to access Domino using a web browser. The Linux community should pressure Lotus/IBM to develop a native Linux Notes client for Domino ready for the RNext release which should come out next year. SuSE are partnering Lotus by selling Domino as part of their groupware product, perhaps they could "volunteer" to port the Notes client to Linux (for a fee of course). Sean. rjwohlfar(a)bigfoot.com 02/06/2001 04:02 Please respond to rjwohlfar To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com cc: Subject: Re: SV: [SLE] suse 7.2!! On 1 Jun, Lennart Börjeson wrote: <snip> Instead of a Linux replacement for Exchange, how about a group of programs that replicate the end results of Exchange (calendar, tasks, etc...)? With the focus resting on functionality, not compatibility.

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no Kmail
by Doug McGarrett 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

I just upgraded 7.0 to 7.1. I am not sure that mail was working in 7.0, altho it once was. When I attempt to get mail, it asks me for a password, which I supply, and then says "Cannot connect to i-2000" Please tell me what files I should look at and how to modify them. Thank you. --doug

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very odd modem behavior
by First Name Last Name 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

All, Recently, I upgraded from SuSE 6.1 to 7.1 and tried to upgrade from kernel 2.2.7 to 2.2.18. Now, I can't use the modem to dial in no matter which kernel I use. (a) With the new kernel, kppp complains that there is no built-in or modular support for ppp. I find this odd. Any kernel gurus are invited to look at the .config file after my signature to tell me why. (I also tried NOT setting CONFIG_PPP since this was listed in the Appletalk section and this is not a Mac.) (b) With the old kernel, there is no complaint, but kppp simply initializes the modem/acts like its going to dial, then does nothing. I would appreciate any help with this. Thanks for yor time. Steve *** the kernel upgrade .config file *** (And, BTW, I am using 2.2.18 source from SuSE 7.1 CDs and the modules get sent to /lib/modules/2.2.18, but the kernel compiles as 2.2.19 AND it can't find the modules unless I move the directory to /lib/modules/2.2.19. Is this normal?) # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # # # Code maturity level options # # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is not set # # Processor type and features # # CONFIG_M386 is not set # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set CONFIG_M686=y CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y CONFIG_X86_TSC=y CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y CONFIG_MICROCODE=m CONFIG_X86_MSR=m CONFIG_X86_CPUID=m CONFIG_1GB=y # CONFIG_2GB is not set # CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set CONFIG_MTRR=y # CONFIG_SMP is not set # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y # CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set CONFIG_KMOD=y # # General setup # CONFIG_NET=y CONFIG_PCI=y # CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set # CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y CONFIG_PCI_QUIRKS=y CONFIG_PCI_OLD_PROC=y # CONFIG_MCA is not set # CONFIG_VISWS is not set CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m CONFIG_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m # CONFIG_PARPORT_OTHER is not set # CONFIG_APM is not set # CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set # # Plug and Play support # CONFIG_PNP=y CONFIG_PNP_PARPORT=m # # Block devices # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y # # Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives # # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640_ENHANCED is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD is not set # CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO is not set # CONFIG_IDE_CHIPSETS is not set # # Additional Block Devices # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=y CONFIG_MD_LINEAR=y CONFIG_MD_STRIPED=y CONFIG_MD_MIRRORING=y # CONFIG_MD_RAID5 is not set CONFIG_MD_BOOT=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=64000 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARIDE=m # # Parallel IDE high-level drivers # # CONFIG_PARIDE_PD is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_PCD is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_PF is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_PT is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_PG is not set # # Parallel IDE protocol modules # # CONFIG_PARIDE_ATEN is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_BPCK is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_COMM is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_DSTR is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_FIT2 is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_FIT3 is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_EPAT is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_EPIA is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_FRIQ is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_FRPW is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_KBIC is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_KTTI is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_ON20 is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE_ON26 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA=m # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set # # Networking options # CONFIG_PACKET=y CONFIG_NETLINK=y CONFIG_RTNETLINK=y CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=y # CONFIG_FIREWALL is not set # CONFIG_FILTER is not set CONFIG_UNIX=y CONFIG_INET=y CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST=y CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER=y CONFIG_RTNETLINK=y CONFIG_NETLINK=y CONFIG_IP_MULTIPLE_TABLES=y CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_MULTIPATH=y CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_TOS=y CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_VERBOSE=y # CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_LARGE_TABLES is not set CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_NAT=y # CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set # CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set # CONFIG_IP_MROUTE is not set CONFIG_IP_ALIAS=y CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y # # (it is safe to leave these untouched) # # CONFIG_INET_RARP is not set CONFIG_SKB_LARGE=y # # # CONFIG_IPX=m # CONFIG_IPX_INTERN is not set CONFIG_ATALK=m # # Telephony Support # CONFIG_PHONE=m CONFIG_PHONE_IXJ=m # # SCSI support # CONFIG_SCSI=y # # SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM) # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y # CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR is not set CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=y # # Some SCSI devices (e.g. CD jukebox) support multiple LUNs # # CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN is not set CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS=y # CONFIG_SCSI_LOGGING is not set # # SCSI low-level drivers # # CONFIG_SCSI_7000FASST is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_ACARD is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_AHA152X is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1542 is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1740 is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX is not set CONFIG_SCSI_IPS=m # CONFIG_SCSI_ADVANSYS is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_IN2000 is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_AM53C974 is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_MEGARAID is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_BUSLOGIC is not set CONFIG_SCSI_CPQFCTS=m # CONFIG_SCSI_DTC3280 is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_EATA is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_DMA is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_PIO is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_FUTURE_DOMAIN is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_GDTH is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_GENERIC_NCR5380 is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_INITIO is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_INIA100 is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_PPA is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_IMM is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C406A is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C416 is not set CONFIG_SCSI_SIM710=m # CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C7xx is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_PAS16 is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2000 is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2220I is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_PSI240I is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FAS is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_ISP is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FC is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_SEAGATE is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_DC390T is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_T128 is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_U14_34F is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_ULTRASTOR is not set # # I2O device support # # CONFIG_I2O is not set # CONFIG_I2O_PCI is not set # CONFIG_I2O_BLOCK is not set # CONFIG_I2O_SCSI is not set # # Network device support # CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y # # ARCnet devices # CONFIG_ARCNET=m # CONFIG_ARCNET_ETH is not set # CONFIG_ARCNET_1051 is not set # CONFIG_ARCNET_COM90xx is not set # CONFIG_ARCNET_COM90xxIO is not set # CONFIG_ARCNET_RIM_I is not set # CONFIG_ARCNET_COM20020 is not set CONFIG_DUMMY=m CONFIG_BONDING=m # CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set CONFIG_NET_SB1000=m # # Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) # CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y # CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM is not set # CONFIG_LANCE is not set # CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_SMC is not set # CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_RACAL is not set # CONFIG_NET_ISA is not set CONFIG_NET_EISA=y # CONFIG_PCNET32 is not set # CONFIG_APRICOT is not set # CONFIG_CS89x0 is not set # CONFIG_DE4X5 is not set # CONFIG_DEC_ELCP is not set CONFIG_DEC_ELCP_OLD=m # CONFIG_DGRS is not set # CONFIG_EEXPRESS_PRO100 is not set # CONFIG_NE2K_PCI is not set # CONFIG_TLAN is not set # CONFIG_VIA_RHINE is not set CONFIG_SIS900=m # CONFIG_NET_POCKET is not set # # Ethernet (1000 Mbit) # CONFIG_SK98LIN=m # CONFIG_FDDI is not set # # Appletalk devices # # CONFIG_LTPC is not set # CONFIG_COPS is not set # CONFIG_IPDDP is not set # CONFIG_PLIP is not set # CONFIG_PPP is not set # # CCP compressors for PPP will also be built in. # # CONFIG_SLIP is not set # CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set # # Token ring devices # # CONFIG_TR is not set CONFIG_NET_FC=y CONFIG_IPHASE5526=m # # Wan interfaces # # CONFIG_HOSTESS_SV11 is not set # CONFIG_COSA is not set CONFIG_SEALEVEL_4021=m CONFIG_SYNCLINK_SYNCPPP=m CONFIG_LANMEDIA=m CONFIG_COMX=m CONFIG_COMX_HW_COMX=m CONFIG_COMX_HW_LOCOMX=m CONFIG_COMX_HW_MIXCOM=m CONFIG_COMX_PROTO_PPP=m CONFIG_COMX_PROTO_LAPB=m CONFIG_COMX_PROTO_FR=m # CONFIG_DLCI is not set # CONFIG_WAN_DRIVERS is not set CONFIG_XPEED=m # CONFIG_LAPBETHER is not set # CONFIG_X25_ASY is not set CONFIG_SBNI=m # # Amateur Radio support # # CONFIG_HAMRADIO is not set # # IrDA (infrared) support # CONFIG_IRDA=m # # IrDA protocols # # CONFIG_IRLAN is not set # CONFIG_IRCOMM is not set CONFIG_IRDA_ULTRA=y # CONFIG_IRDA_OPTIONS is not set # CONFIG_IRDA_COMPRESSION is not set # # Infrared-port device drivers # # # SIR device drivers # CONFIG_IRTTY_SIR=m CONFIG_IRPORT_SIR=m # # FIR device drivers # # CONFIG_NSC_FIR is not set # CONFIG_WINBOND_FIR is not set # CONFIG_TOSHIBA_FIR is not set # # Dongle support # # CONFIG_DONGLE is not set # # ISDN subsystem # CONFIG_ISDN=m # CONFIG_ISDN_PPP is not set # CONFIG_ISDN_AUDIO is not set # CONFIG_ISDN_X25 is not set # # ISDN feature submodules # # CONFIG_ISDN_DRV_LOOP is not set CONFIG_ISDN_DIVERSION=y # # low-level hardware drivers # # # Passive ISDN cards # # CONFIG_ISDN_DRV_HISAX is not set # # Active ISDN cards # # CONFIG_ISDN_DRV_ICN is not set # CONFIG_ISDN_DRV_PCBIT is not set # CONFIG_ISDN_DRV_EICON is not set # CONFIG_ISDN_DRV_AVMB1 is not set # # Old CD-ROM drivers (not SCSI, not IDE) # CONFIG_CD_NO_IDESCSI=y # CONFIG_AZTCD is not set # CONFIG_GSCD is not set # CONFIG_SBPCD is not set # CONFIG_MCD is not set # CONFIG_MCDX is not set # CONFIG_OPTCD is not set # CONFIG_CM206 is not set # CONFIG_SJCD is not set # CONFIG_ISP16_CDI is not set # CONFIG_CDU31A is not set # CONFIG_CDU535 is not set # # Character devices # CONFIG_VT=y CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y CONFIG_SERIAL=m # CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set # CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y CONFIG_UNIX98_PTY_COUNT=256 CONFIG_PRINTER=m # CONFIG_PRINTER_READBACK is not set CONFIG_MOUSE=y # # Mice # # CONFIG_ATIXL_BUSMOUSE is not set # CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set # CONFIG_MS_BUSMOUSE is not set CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y # CONFIG_82C710_MOUSE is not set # CONFIG_PC110_PAD is not set # # Joysticks # # CONFIG_JOYSTICK is not set # CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set # CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set # CONFIG_NVRAM is not set CONFIG_RTC=y CONFIG_INTEL_RNG=m # # Video For Linux # CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV=m # CONFIG_RADIO_RTRACK is not set # CONFIG_RADIO_RTRACK2 is not set # CONFIG_RADIO_AZTECH is not set # CONFIG_RADIO_CADET is not set # CONFIG_RADIO_GEMTEK is not set CONFIG_RADIO_MAESTRO=m # CONFIG_RADIO_MIROPCM20 is not set CONFIG_RADIO_TRUST=m # CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848 is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_BWQCAM is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_CQCAM is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_PMS is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_SAA5249 is not set # CONFIG_RADIO_SF16FMI is not set # CONFIG_RADIO_TYPHOON is not set # CONFIG_RADIO_ZOLTRIX is not set CONFIG_VIDEO_ZORAN=m CONFIG_VIDEO_BUZ=m # CONFIG_DTLK is not set # # Ftape, the floppy tape device driver # CONFIG_FTAPE=m # CONFIG_ZFTAPE is not set # CONFIG_FT_PROC_FS is not set CONFIG_FT_NORMAL_DEBUG=y # CONFIG_FT_FULL_DEBUG is not set # CONFIG_FT_NO_TRACE is not set # CONFIG_FT_NO_TRACE_AT_ALL is not set # # Hardware configuration # CONFIG_FT_STD_FDC=y # CONFIG_FT_MACH2 is not set # CONFIG_FT_PROBE_FC10 is not set # CONFIG_FT_ALT_FDC is not set # # ONLY for DEC Alpha architectures # CONFIG_FT_ALPHA_CLOCK=0 # # USB support # # CONFIG_USB is not set # # Filesystems # CONFIG_QUOTA=y # CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set CONFIG_FAT_FS=y CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=y CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS=y CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=y CONFIG_JOLIET=y CONFIG_MINIX_FS=y CONFIG_NTFS_FS=m CONFIG_HPFS_FS=y CONFIG_PROC_FS=y CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y # CONFIG_ROMFS_FS is not set CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y # CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set # CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set # # Network File Systems # CONFIG_CODA_FS=m CONFIG_NFS_FS=y CONFIG_NFS_V3=y CONFIG_NFSD=m CONFIG_SUNRPC=y CONFIG_LOCKD=y CONFIG_SMB_FS=m # CONFIG_SMB_NLS_DEFAULT is not set CONFIG_NCP_FS=m # CONFIG_NCPFS_PACKET_SIGNING is not set # CONFIG_NCPFS_IOCTL_LOCKING is not set # CONFIG_NCPFS_STRONG is not set # CONFIG_NCPFS_NFS_NS is not set # CONFIG_NCPFS_OS2_NS is not set # CONFIG_NCPFS_MOUNT_SUBDIR is not set # CONFIG_NCPFS_NLS is not set CONFIG_NCPFS_EXTRAS=y # # Partition Types # CONFIG_BSD_DISKLABEL=y CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION=y CONFIG_SMD_DISKLABEL=y CONFIG_SOLARIS_X86_PARTITION=y CONFIG_NLS=y # # Native Language Support # CONFIG_NLS_DEFAULT="cp437" CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=y # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_737 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_775 is not set CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_850=y # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_852 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_855 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_857 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_860 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_861 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_862 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_863 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_864 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_865 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_866 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_869 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_874 is not set CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_932=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_936=m # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_949 is not set CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_950=m CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1=y CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_2=y CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_3=y CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_4=y CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_5=y # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_6 is not set CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_7=y # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_8 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_9 is not set CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_14=m CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_15=y # CONFIG_NLS_KOI8_R is not set # # Console drivers # CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y # # Sound # CONFIG_SOUND=m CONFIG_SOUND_CS4281=m CONFIG_SOUND_FUSION=m CONFIG_SOUND_EMU10K1=m # CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370 is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371 is not set CONFIG_SOUND_MAESTRO=m CONFIG_SOUND_ESSSOLO1=m CONFIG_SOUND_ICH=m # CONFIG_SOUND_SONICVIBES is not set CONFIG_SOUND_TRIDENT=m # CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDCLAS is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDPIN is not set CONFIG_SOUND_VIA82CXXX=m # CONFIG_SOUND_OSS is not set # # Kernel hacking # # CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ is not set ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/

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FW: [SLE] suse 7.2!!
by Peer-Christoph Mettelem 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

Hi, don't get me wrong, but in my opinion you wrote something wrong: A Hacker doesn't sell illegal copies of software. I think that it's a pity that so many people mix up the meaning of hacker and cracker. In short: hackers are the good ones, crackers are the bad ones. So, if you want to gete illegal software (warez) you goto a cracker. If it'S something about security then you got to a hacker. I really hate, that even in tv crackers were called hackers. There are much more infos about that on the web. And somtehing else: a windoze dll is part of a programm rather than a normal file like doc files. Another reason for people to use M$ products may be, that most of them know windows already and use it at work (i'm forced to use WinNT, too, but i'm using Linux as much as possible). Peer PS: Why are'n penguins able to fly? Something, that can't fly can't crash! > -----Original Message----- > From: Josi L. Rojano [mailto:jlrojano@bifap.org] > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:45 PM > To: Lennart Bvrjeson; suse-linux-e > Subject: RE: [SLE] suse 7.2!! > > > Hi! > > I would add one more reason to explain the popularity > of Windows/Office > package: piracy (and hence a software that is almost > FREE). I mean, > everybody can get a very cheap copy of the > Windows/Office package from a > hacker and install it on their computers. > > IMHO if users would have to pay for installing this > package, a lot of them > would have simply give up and forget about the M$ > SW... That why M$ have > resigned the new licensing policy scheme. They know > that piracy have also a > great positive impact on their success... (in terms of > acceptance of their > formats: .doc .dll and so on)... > > That's my opinion. > > Regards, > > Jose. > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Lennart Bvrjeson [mailto:LennartB@cinnober.com] > Enviado el: viernes, 01 de junio de 2001 12:21 > Para: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Asunto: SV: [SLE] suse 7.2!! > > > The success of Windows rests on three pillars: > > 1) The acceptance of Windows as a game console. > > This is what most home PCs are used for. The typical Windows > user wants out-of-the-box games compatibility. Just > insert the CD! > > 2) The adoption of Word as a format for the exchange > of documents. > > How many times have you not received a Word document > in mail or via > a web page? And with consistent regularity, it will > have been made > with a Word version later than the one you have, > which forces you > to upgrade. And the latest version of Word/Excel/etc > is only available > on the Windows platform... (This is, BTW, what killed > NT on the RISC > platforms (Mips, PowerPC, Alpha). There was ONLY > Windows available, no > office applications, which forced every user who > needed the extra > muscle offered by RISC to have two workstations at > his/her desk.) > > 3) The adoption of Exchange in the business community. > > This immediately forces all clients to use Outlook, > which is only > available on Windows. Yes, you can use > POP3/IMAP/SMTP, but you'll miss > out on all the "extra" group-ware utilities bundled > with Exchange. > > (I've heard a rumour that the Web-interface of > Exchange2000 can do > everything Outlook can, but I'll bet that only > applies to users of > IE5+ on Windows...) > > Linux needs to counter Windows on all three fronts by > offering 99.9% > Windows compatibility + superior features, otherwise the common > non-techie person won't stand the hassle of converting. > > /Lennart > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Fren: yamaska.mail [mailto:yamaska.mail@planet.nl] > Skickat: den 31 maj 2001 18:27 > Till: j.e.drews(a)worldnet.att.net > Kopia: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Dmne: Re: [SLE] suse 7.2!! > > > Worse yet, you don't even get Visual Basic, they make > you buy this as well > !!! > > Greetz > Pete (A newbie) > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jonathan Drews" <j.e.drews(a)worldnet.att.net> > >To: "Ben Rosenberg" <ben(a)whack.org> > >Cc: <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> > >Sent: Thursday, 31 May, 2001 7:56 AM > >Subject: Re: [SLE] suse 7.2!! > > > > On Wednesday 30 May 2001 22:51, Ben wrote: > > >I would rather pay $50 every 6 > > > months then $300 (W2K Feb 2000) then have to spend > another $150-200 for > > > XP 18 months later..and when Linux improves..it > impoves..it's not just > > > cosmetic most of the time. This is just my opinion. > > > > I would rather pay $300.00 for 3 Linux Distros than > be given Microsoft > > Windows for free. > > > > How the hell M$ sold so much software is a mystery > to me. It's really > > pathetic stuff. The detractors of Linux say it comes > with no applications. > > Are these people brain dead? All Linux distros come > with C, C++, Python > and > > Perl. All you get with M$ is Visual Basic. I'd > rather use my K+E Log-Log > > Duplex Decitrig slide rule that that stuff. > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > Jonathan > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe send e-mail to > suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > > For additional commands send e-mail to > suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > > Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the > > archives at http://lists.suse.com > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands send e-mail to > suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > > Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the > archives at http://lists.suse.com > > -- > To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands send e-mail to > suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the > archives at http://lists.suse.com > > > -- > To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands send e-mail to > suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the > archives at http://lists.suse.com

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FYI: Article about the need for Linux to make a viable office suite!
by Curtis Rey 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

It's hard to muster enthusiam for Office XP Article quote" "In fact, I wonder whether Microsoft Office is in for what I'm going to call the Kleenex effect -- will the Microsoft Office file formats and basic interface design be appropriated well enough by open-source competitors such as OpenOffice, KOffice or GNOME Office to enable users to reach for one of those bargain-brand facial tissue alternatives in lieu of Microsoft's offerings Since Windows is bundled too tightly with new PCs for Linux to find much of a foothold there, a free replacement for Microsoft's $600 office suite that can actually deliver the goods may one day offer Linux life on the desktop. Fortunately for Microsoft, desktop productivity software may be the weakest link in the Linux application chain." Full article at: http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/linux/0,12249,2767064,00.html Make some good points. Cheers. Curtis

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Excellent ! and funny too !!
by Curtis Rey 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

E-mail recieved from ZDNET. "June 02, 2001: OK, everybody, repeat after me: Office XP has nothing to do with Windows XP Office XP has nothing to do with Windows XP Office XP has nothing to do with Windows XP Is that clear now? "XP" has no special meaning; it's just like the "95" in Windows 95 and Office 95. If you decide to upgrade yourself or your business to Office XP, you can do so without even thinking about the OS. Take a deep breath and relax. It's just another software upgrade decision like all the others. Well, not really. Businesses in Microsoft's licensing programs must upgrade to Office XP by October 1 or face dramatically higher prices for future versions. This is known as "milking the cash cow" or "extortion," depending on your vocabulary. So if you're a business buyer, repeat after me: Consumer choice has nothing to do with Office XP Consumer choice has nothing to do with Office XP Consumer choice has nothing to do with Office XP Stephen Howard-Sarin VP Content & Services, ZDNet mailto:zdnetcare@zdcommunity.com Thanks for inviting us into your mailbox." Cheers all, Curtis

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Procmail
by Emiliano Grilli 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

Hi, I have put this on my .procmailrc file: :0 * ^Subject:.*[SLE] Mail/suse-list to put in that folder all mail from the list, but now all mails go in that folder... I'm not a regexp monger, but where is my mistake? Thank you in advance, Emiliano P.S. I use postfix, fetchmail and mutt to read and send mail -- Sent to you from the computer of _____ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ _ | ____|_ __ ___ (_) (_) __ _ _ __ ___ / ___|_ __(_) | (_) | _| | '_ ` _ \| | | |/ _` | '_ \ / _ \ | | _| '__| | | | | | |___| | | | | | | | | (_| | | | | (_) | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____|_| |_| |_|_|_|_|\__,_|_| |_|\___/ \____|_| |_|_|_|_| Running SUsE linux 7.1

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Assigning IP addresses to ethernet cards permanently
by Sundar ＠local 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

Hello, I am trying to assign multiple addresses to my external ethernet card. I am able to do it with ifconfig. The problem is -- I loose them next time when I reboot. How do I assign them permanently? I am using kernel 2.4(SuSE 7.1) Thanks in advance. Sundar

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Vid Card Problems
by Phantasm 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

I have been using a Matrox G450 for a few months now, and didn't notice any problems (Except for the ones I had in XF86Config), untill I started playing UT. I am able to play for quite a while, but in the time I am playing I hear minor beeps that come from the case. My guess is that its getting too hot, but then again, I am not sure. After a few games it just locks up, totally freezes on me and forces me to reset. Normally its not a problem but fsck on a 45Gig Drive is worse then watching mold grow in a hospital. I got curious and checked my UT logs for anything. Nothing showed there, so my next step was /var/log/messages. I found buried in there near when I crashed: Jun 1 22:59:24 office kernel: [drm:mga_dma_quiescent] *ERROR* irqs: 0 wanted 0 Jun 1 22:59:24 office kernel: [drm:mga_dma_quiescent] *ERROR* lockup Jun 1 22:59:34 office kernel: [drm:mga_dma_quiescent] *ERROR* irqs: 0 wanted 0 Jun 1 22:59:34 office kernel: [drm:mga_dma_quiescent] *ERROR* lockup except there was numbers after irqs: and wanted was still 0, I checked proc, interrupts and realized my Vid and USB were taking the same IRQ, so I went to the BIOS and removed the assign IRWs for the VGA and USB, and started back up. Once I did that I got the error messages listed above. It happens when X starts, and thats it, untill UT causes the box to die. I upgraded the mga.o and mga_hal.0 drivers from Matrox, and still get the new error. Re did my XF86Config file with nothing but what I need to run smoothly, and I still get the error. What could I have missed here? If you need to see my XF86Config, lemme know and I will send that on privately or if requested by the list, publicly. ~Robert K Davies

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SV: [SLE] suse 7.2!!
by Lennart Börjeson 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

The success of Windows rests on three pillars: 1) The acceptance of Windows as a game console. This is what most home PCs are used for. The typical Windows user wants out-of-the-box games compatibility. Just insert the CD! 2) The adoption of Word as a format for the exchange of documents. How many times have you not received a Word document in mail or via a web page? And with consistent regularity, it will have been made with a Word version later than the one you have, which forces you to upgrade. And the latest version of Word/Excel/etc is only available on the Windows platform... (This is, BTW, what killed NT on the RISC platforms (Mips, PowerPC, Alpha). There was ONLY Windows available, no office applications, which forced every user who needed the extra muscle offered by RISC to have two workstations at his/her desk.) 3) The adoption of Exchange in the business community. This immediately forces all clients to use Outlook, which is only available on Windows. Yes, you can use POP3/IMAP/SMTP, but you'll miss out on all the "extra" group-ware utilities bundled with Exchange. (I've heard a rumour that the Web-interface of Exchange2000 can do everything Outlook can, but I'll bet that only applies to users of IE5+ on Windows...) Linux needs to counter Windows on all three fronts by offering 99.9% Windows compatibility + superior features, otherwise the common non-techie person won't stand the hassle of converting. /Lennart -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: yamaska.mail [mailto:yamaska.mail@planet.nl] Skickat: den 31 maj 2001 18:27 Till: j.e.drews(a)worldnet.att.net Kopia: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Ämne: Re: [SLE] suse 7.2!! Worse yet, you don't even get Visual Basic, they make you buy this as well !!! Greetz Pete (A newbie) >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jonathan Drews" <j.e.drews(a)worldnet.att.net> >To: "Ben Rosenberg" <ben(a)whack.org> >Cc: <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> >Sent: Thursday, 31 May, 2001 7:56 AM >Subject: Re: [SLE] suse 7.2!! > On Wednesday 30 May 2001 22:51, Ben wrote: > >I would rather pay $50 every 6 > > months then $300 (W2K Feb 2000) then have to spend another $150-200 for > > XP 18 months later..and when Linux improves..it impoves..it's not just > > cosmetic most of the time. This is just my opinion. > > I would rather pay $300.00 for 3 Linux Distros than be given Microsoft > Windows for free. > > How the hell M$ sold so much software is a mystery to me. It's really > pathetic stuff. The detractors of Linux say it comes with no applications. > Are these people brain dead? All Linux distros come with C, C++, Python and > Perl. All you get with M$ is Visual Basic. I'd rather use my K+E Log-Log > Duplex Decitrig slide rule that that stuff. > > > -- > Cheers, > > Jonathan > > -- > To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the > archives at http://lists.suse.com > -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com

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Adding the done to a rc3.d startup and shutdown
by Patrick Nelson 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

I have a script that I have run at startup and shutdown of init level 3. It displays items as it executes which list nicely at booting. However, it doesn't display the green done that is right justified and I would like to have it do that. Is this possible? I can't figure out how to do this.

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Saitek SP550 Joystick/Gamepad
by Rikard DustPuppy Johnels 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

Has anyone gotten this little beast to function under either 2.2.18 or 2.4.2? I have a Sounblaster Live card set up with the built in driver from the kernel. I have tried making all joystick modules and intergrating them in to the 2.2.18 kernel. Same problem. No joysticks found... /dev/js0: No such device /dev/input/js0: No such device (Which /dev is the proper one??) / Under 2.4.2 i can get something out of /dev/input/js0 but only after loading ALL modules... Couldnt find out which modules i needed. :( But i have other problems with the 2.4.2 kernel so i cant use it.. :( I tried to look into the /usr/src/linux/Documentation/joystick.txt, but it didnt really give me any clues. CAn anyone help me with this? -- /Rikard -----***-----***-----***-----***-----***-----***-----***-----***-----***-----***----- Rikard Johnels Phone: +46 (070) 464 99 39 Computer Consultant Email: rjhn(a)linux.nu -----***-----***-----***-----***-----***-----***-----***-----***-----***-----***-----

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ftape - parport_pc - 2.4.2 modules
by basslake 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

Hi I'm still having problems figuring this out, because I don't want to recompile unnecessarily. SuSE70-kernel-2.2.16 or -2.4.2 - I have ftape installed to use for backups, it works fine if I boot to my 2.2.16 kernel & modules. When I boot to 2.4.2, I get a difference in /var/log/messages, on parport_pc than when booting 2.2.16. excerp from /usr/src/linux/2.2.16/config - parport - paride section.CONFIG_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m CONFIG_PARPORT_OTHER is not set CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARIDE=m CONFIG_PARIDE_BPCK=m 2.2.16 kernel /var/log/messages - ftape works fine with 2.2.16 kernel, and modules for ftape. May 14 13:14:00 basslake kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [SPP,PS2,EPP] - - -snip - - - X 18 lines - excerp from /usr/src/linux2.4.2/config - parport - paride section.CONFIG_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m CONFIG_PARPORT_OTHER is not set CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y CONFIG_PARIDE=m CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARIDE_BPCK=m looks like there's an extra option for 'parport - paride modules' in the 2.4.X series kernels , ' CONFIG_PARPORT_1284'. but I don't know why that would cause any problem when all the other options are set the same as I have in 2.2.16 . /var/log/messages - for 2.4.2 - gives as follows - 2.4.2 kernel - /var/log/messages - ftape, she's a no work here !!! ??? May 15 11:13:34 basslake kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP] hmm - extra stuff , and missing stuff. Missing=[SPP,PS2 Extra , or new ? =[PCSPP,TRISTATE Can someone tell me for sure that , if I reconfig, and take out , 'CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y' I would get the desired results, [SPP,PS2,EPP] ? Or anyother way to get around this ? Thanks for any suggestions , and help. John W Mislan

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