June 2001 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [SLE] HP laserjet
by Purple Shirt 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

I suggest if you are serious about printing that you get a printer with network interface as in HP2100 or above or some other brand. It certainely is easier to set up too, IMO. >From: Manuel Martínez Valls <mmartinez(a)datosred.com> >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com >Subject: [SLE] HP laserjet >Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 23:34:54 +0200 > >Hi, > >I'm looking for a HP LaserJet printer with about 16 ppm. I've found that >the LaserJet 1200 fits my requirements, do you know if its easy to >configure under SuSE Linux 6.4 or higher? > >Which one do you would recommend? > >Thanks, > > Manuel Martínez Valls > > >-- >To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com >Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the >archives at http://lists.suse.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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HP laserjet
by Manuel Martínez Valls 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

Hi, I'm looking for a HP LaserJet printer with about 16 ppm. I've found that the LaserJet 1200 fits my requirements, do you know if its easy to configure under SuSE Linux 6.4 or higher? Which one do you would recommend? Thanks, Manuel Martínez Valls

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inetd weirdness
by Jack Malone 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

Hi, On Tuesday 05 June 2001 20:29, you wrote: > Hi Mike, > thanks for the reply. I have also tried to config it with yast an the same > thing happens. but since I have sent out that 1st message I have discovered > that if I telnet into the box (or ftp for that matter) from outside my lan > it lets me connection then I try to connect to the box from the lan side on > a windows workstation an it lets me in after connecting from outside the > lan. also it seems to take a while for the connection to come up. I get > this same behavior at home an just never sent out a message to the list. I > have to telnet in from outside my lan at home before It will let me do so > from inside the lan. Just wierd that its like this. Now that is weird. Let me see if I understand this. If you are local, you can't telnet into the box unless you telnet in from outside first. Right? This sounds like some sort of host problem or perhaps a route problem that is resolved when an outside connection is made. But that really doesn't made sense either because that would give the connection an outside ip address. Maybe before you connect from outside, you can check to make sure that inetd is running. I just thought of something else to check. Cables and network cards. Perhaps one isn't working quite right. Although how you would check something like this is way out of my league. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 7.1, Kernel 2.4.4 KDE2.1.1 For a great linux portal try http://www.freezer-burn.org Jack Malone jack(a)malone.tyler.com http://www.ballistic.com/~jemalone Luke 4:18-19 "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor." (NIV)

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wvdial dial on demand problems
by Harry Reinert 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

Greetings - Since migrating to 7.1, I have an odd problem with my dial-on-demand setup using wvdial. When running fetchmail, the first server that gets contacted reports an error that a connection could not be made. The rest of the servers work fine and if I run fetchmail again, before the modem hangs up, the first server works fine. If I start wvdial manually, I don't get this same error message. And, if I start kppp, I don't have this problem. I looked at var/log/messages, but don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as a problem. This is somewhat annoying. Any ideas on what I should be looking for? Thanks, Harry

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Re: [SLE] SuSE 7.0 Kernel ReCompile
by Mads Martin Jørgensen 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

* Digby Tarvin <digbyt(a)acm.org> [Jun 05. 2001 13:49]: > > Before any other make commands do: > > > > make oldconfig > > > Ok - tried that. But it didn't seem to make any difference to the > config file: > > penemude:/usr/src/linux # ls -l .conf* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24724 Jun 5 21:36 .config > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24724 Jun 5 21:22 .config.old > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24724 Jun 5 19:04 .config.orig > penemude:/usr/src/linux # diff .config .config.old > > However when I re-attempted the make with > make dep clean bzImage > and contrary to my expectations, it completed successfully.... > > Did the 'make oldconfig' effect anything other than the .config file? No, it does not. Did you actually try to compile after doing the config.gz thing, or did you only look at the config files? Tried diff on the files? -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort." -- A. P. J.

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Nvidia oddity
by Paul Abrahams 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

Here's another tidbit to toss into the Nvidia pot. Seems that I'm running Win4Lin in fullscreen mode, which uses server #1 (by default, X uses server #0). If I shut down Win4Lin, a Windows terminal, using the Windows shutdown procedure, and then shut down kdm, I see the shutdown messages that I don't see under other circumstances. I don't expect this observation to solve any problems, but it's interesting. Paul

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Simple Install
by Phil Curtis 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

How can I perform a COMPLETELY minimal install (I mean even less than the the minimum install that you can select during the CD setup). Thanks Phil. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 17-May-01

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SAP Gui
by Peer-Christoph Mettelem 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

Hi, is there anyone using the "SAP Gui" for Linux? I know that there is a Version for RedHat Linux but i was not able to run i under SuSE Linux. That app is the last one which keeps me using WinNT at work. -- may the source be with you peer Why aren't penguins able to fly? Something, that can't fly can not crash!

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Re: [SLE] SuSE 7.0 Kernel ReCompile
by Mads Martin Jørgensen 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

* Digby Tarvin <digbyt(a)acm.org> [Jun 05. 2001 13:25]: > Thanks for your suggestion. I tried your suggestion, but sadly > it did not seem to result in any change to the .config file: > > penemude:/usr/src/linux # gzip -cd /proc/config.gz > /usr/src/linux/.config > penemude:/usr/src/linux # ls -l .config* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24724 Jun 5 21:22 .config > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24724 Jun 5 19:04 .config.orig > penemude:/usr/src/linux # diff .conf* > > Any other ideas I can try? Before any other make commands do: make oldconfig -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort." -- A. P. J.

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(forw) Re: procmail
by Ben Rosenberg 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

I am wondering if someone could help me. A friend of mine wants to manipulate procmail and what he wants to do is stated below. Could someone help with this so I can help him? ----- Forwarded message from "Murray S. Kucherawy" <msk(a)sendmail.com> ----- On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Ben Rosenberg wrote: > I use this to bounce mail to a postmaster about one of their users..you > could do a mod on this and it should work for you. I believe. > > :0 EHBhb: > * ^From.*(a)*.sims.co.il > postmaster(a)sims.co.il > > Let me know if you need more. What I actually want is for procmail to exit with a status of 69, instead of 0, for a given address. I tried this: :0 * ^From:.*<address here>.* EXITCODE=69 ...but that didn't seem to do it. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ----- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin

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SuSE 7.0 Kernel ReCompile
by Digby Tarvin 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

I have just performed a fresh SuSE 7.0 install using the suggested defaults for my system, and wanted to confirm that the kernel source that I have in /usr/src/linux really does correspond to what I am running. Consequently I tried following the instructions on page 379 of the handbook to recompile without any change to the configuration. That is, I logged in as 'root' on the console, cd /usr/src/linux make dep make clean make bzImage but unfortunately the last line produces the messages below. Anyone have any idea what has gone wrong? As I havn't changed anything yet, I would have thought this should have worked.. :-/ Presumably my use of an Intel 440GX motherboard with 2 CPUs has resulted in a less well tested configuration... gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -D__SMP__ -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c -o init/main.o init/main.c In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:11, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:20, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/proc_fs.h:5, from init/main.c:15: /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h: In function `hard_smp_processor_id': /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:209: warning: implicit declaration of function `GET_APIC_ID' /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:209: `APIC_BASE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:209: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:209: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:209: `APIC_ID' undeclared (first use in this function) make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(a)acm.org http://www.cthulhu.dircon.co.uk

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[SLE] Fwd: Re: Ballmer: Linux is a cancer.
by Andrew Smith 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Smith [mailto:news@andrewsmith.plus.com] Sent: 05 June 2001 18:48 To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: RE: [SLE] Fwd: Re: Ballmer: Linux is a cancer. >I'm not gonna say this too loud....and I promise I won't say it more than >once, but if they (M$) were smart, they would start working on their own >flavor of Linux. (Of course they would take a good thing and screw it all >up, but I'm just saying...). I think the address is www.mslinux.org... :o)

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Are these the NVidia 'source code'
by Riever 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

Everyone keeps saying that NVidia haven't released source code to drivers but their site lists these files: http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=linux SuSE 7.1 NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-1251.suse71.i386.rpm NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-1251.suse71.src.rpm NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1251.suse71.i386.rpm README.suse71 and at the bottom of the page: Source RPMS are provided here for those interested NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-1251.i386.rpm NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1251.src.rpm I'm no driver-guru, but these look like they should be source packages. Wouldn't looking through these maybe help someone find the problem that many people seem to be having with the new drivers? If they are not the 'source code' they claim to be, then maybe get NVidia to relabel them? *grins* Riever.. * This space not for rent *

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On the fly EQ
by dids 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

Does anyone know a way to eq, the output to the soundcard ?? Im finding a lot of real-player stuff a bit bass heavy ! dids

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HCL
by Internet Niue 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

Hey Group, Is there someplace in the ftp maze of SuSE where I can dowload a hardware compatibility list for 7.1??? I know you can go through the database on the site....but I want to have to list so I can take a look at the whole thing and go shopping for hardware to build some more machines. -- Regards, Richard Saint Clair, Co-Founder Technical Manager Internet Users Society Niue Chairman, Pacific Island Chapter ISOC -------------------------------------------- stclair(a)niue.nu www.niue.nu Voice (68 3) 1157 Fax (68 3) 4237 Internet Service Provider, Niue Island -------------------------------------------- ISP/C, ISOC, APIA, NCOC, ISOCNZ, PICISOC, ARRL -------------------------------------------- No computers were harmed in the making of this message.

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DoS attacks and WinXP
by Fred A. Miller 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm Flaws in WinXP create a perfect environment for DoS attacks, according to article, which is also a fascinating look into the world of the hacker attacker. -- -- ----/ / _ Fred A. Miller ---/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Systems Administrator --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Cornell Univ. Press Services -/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ fm(a)cupserv.org

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Re: nVidia driver problem on Linux
by Steven Hatfield 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

These are the drivers that we are running - the latest available from your web site. You aren't talking to your average everyday normal users here.. we know our stuff :-) This is repeatable, and is happening on any computer that runs KDM + nVidia drivers with a GeForce2 based machine. You can imagine how many of them there are. It has something to do with KDM and the nVidia drivers. If you run in init level 3 / console mode, they seem to work fine, because the respawning of the X session doesn't happen like in KDM. But by using KDM, and logging in/out a few times, and then trying to switch to virtual terminal mode with ctrl-alt-F1, F2, F3, etc, will pretty much freeze your computer entirely, unless you have the ability to telnet/ssh in from some other computer and reboot it remotely. You know how often Linux people like to reboot ;^) Let me know if I can be of any help. Thanks, Steven On Monday 04 June 2001 05:46 pm, Andrew Ritger wrote: > Greetings, Steven. > > Can you try just booting to console (usually init level 3) and seeing if > the problems go away? Also, I've attached updated drivers that seem to > fix the problem for us. Can you let us know if your problems go away with > them? Please don't distribute these drivers... I just want to confirm > that the bug is fixed. Another public release will come out in the next > couple weeks. > > Thanks, > - Andy Ritger > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Steven Hatfield wrote: > > On Friday 01 June 2001 02:01 pm, Andrew Ritger wrote: > > > Greetings, Steven. > > > > > > Could you send us the details of your system (motherboard, video card > > > type, etc...)? We haven't been able to reproduce this in house. Also, > > > if you could find out the system specs of any other users you're aware > > > of that are having this problem, it would be useful to know what's > > > similar or different about the systems that exhibit this. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > - Andy Ritger > > > > > > Oh, and could you check to see if this same behavior occurs if you're > > > not using KDM? (ie set your run level to 3 and just do startx) > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Steven Hatfield wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I am having a problem with the nVidia drivers on linux. It appears > > > > that when I hit ctrl-alt-F1-F6 while in an X Session, my system locks > > > > up, and my screen goes blank. If I use the 'nv' driver that comes > > > > with my distribution (SuSE 7.1 Pro), the lock up doesn't happen. > > > > Running the "nvidia" driver + GLX results in a very fast system, with > > > > great 3D Acceleration. It's just this bug that is getting in the way > > > > of a perfect experience. > > > > > > > > Also, when I exit out of KDE2 to KDM, and choose "reboot" or "halt", > > > > the screen goes all weird, and I see "movement", and then my system > > > > finally reboots. If I choose "Exit to Console", I get the same lockup > > > > as I get when I press ctrl-alt-Fx. > > > > > > > > I am using the latest nVidia driver from your website, v1.0-1251. > > > > This problem was also apparent in the last v0.9-769. > > > > > > > > On the SuSE-Linux-E users mailing list, there are several other > > > > people who have the same problem, so this isn't just my system. > > > > > > > > Good luck, and I hope this helps. Let me know if you need any further > > > > information. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steven > > > > Ok, I've recieved about 10 emails about this, from different list > > members. It appears to be a KDM<->nVidia driver problem. Ben Rosenberg > > reports that he runs in console mode, starting X with "startx", and > > doesn't have any problems. Anyone else running KDM has problems. The > > setup seems to be any number of CPU choices, and a GeForce2 based card, > > running SuSE 7.0/7.1 with the latest KDE2.1.2. > > > > I can generate this error pretty much on demand, so if you need a guinnea > > pig for testing, just let me know. > > > > Let me know if you need any further information... and please keep me > > informed. > > > > Thanks, > > Steven ---------------------------------------- Content-Type: APPLICATION/octet-stream; charset="us-ascii"; name="NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1251.tar.gz" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-Description: ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- Content-Type: APPLICATION/octet-stream; charset="us-ascii"; name="NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-1251.tar.gz" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-Description: ----------------------------------------

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Re: [SLE] OT:X server for windows 3.11
by Digby Tarvin 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

> Does anyone on the list know of a free X server for Windows 3.11? > Best regards > > Anders I havn't looked recently, but like most things specific to windows, the work is only done by people wanting to make a profit, and hence not free. If your main objective is to use PCs running Windows as a X-Terminal for Linux (without actually installing Linux on the PC) you might like to have a look at http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/protocol.html With this you can run additional X-Servers with no associated graphics hardware on your Linux system, and you then use the VNC client to run as a 'remote frame buffer'. I used it sucessfully recently when I had to do some work at another company's site, and had to use a different Windows equipped PC almost every day. With a VNC server running under Linux on my notebook, I could sit down at any random PC and execute VNC (over the network served by Samba) and instantly convert it to a full linux X Terminal. There is a bit of hysteresis in the mouse motion if the PC or network is slow, but it is quite usable, and has the advantage over a real X-terminal in that you can 'disconnect' from one PC and 're-connect' from another without having to log out or close any windows... I havn't tried the current release on Windows 3.11, but I am sure I have used older versions on it. Regards, DigbyT PS As an aside, you can also do the reverse and run a VNC server on Windows, allowing a Linux system to take display the Windows console in an X-Window. -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(a)acm.org http://www.cthulhu.dircon.co.uk

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List of supported webcams ?
by Franky Goethals 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

Hello all, Can somebody point me to a supported list of webcams under Linux ? Can't find that damned list anywhere... Thanks in advance, Franky. =================================== GOETHALS Franky Driegaaienstraat 104 B-9100 SINT-NIKLAAS B E L G I E Systeemingenieur Mainframe Tel./Fax : 32 - (0)3 / 776.10.09 GSM : 32 - (0)478 / 21.40.94 franky.goethals(a)pandora.be ICQ : 119431586 ===================================

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AT&T sues Microsoft over speech patent
by Fred A. Miller 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

"AT&T FILED A lawsuit in a U.S. district court Monday against Microsoft in which it accused the software maker of selling products that include a patented digital speech technology developed by AT&T. The suit, filed in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, charges that Microsoft's TrueSpeech software, used to code and decode voice signals, violates a patent that was originally issued to AT&T in 1984. TrueSpeech is incorporated in several Microsoft operating systems including Windows 95, Windows 2000, and Windows Me, according to the lawsuit. The suit also charges that Microsoft's NetMeeting product, which lets users hold video and voice conference calls over the Internet, makes use of the same patented technology." http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/06/04/010604hnattmic.xml http://pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,51684,00.asp http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1004-200-6187397.html -- -- ----/ / _ Fred A. Miller ---/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Systems Administrator --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Cornell Univ. Press Services -/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ fm(a)cupserv.org

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Fw: [SLE] Intel 815EEA mobo - no sound? SuSE....Help...! (Solved!)
by Dennis 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

I finally get the sound to work. : ) But, the main volume control is thru' the 'phone out' control and the 'volume' control is dead? What ever it is, it's finally works. Thanks for all the help given. Dennis/sg > > Dennis wrote: > > > > > > Thank Mark, I will see how can I do with the mixer. Now it complaint > wrong > > > type? and I need to overcome this problem. : ( > > > > > Try installing alsa from sources: > > > > Goto www.alsa-project.org and get ALSA driver 0.5.11. Or maybe try > > again to > > configure with YAST2. > > > > Mark > > >

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XFree86 4.0.3 and ATI All-in-Wonder Pro
by Milnes Terry SSgt 52 OSS/OSOMS 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

I have a ATI All-in-Wonder Pro card that I am trying to get to work with GATOS. I have downloaded GATOS's binary drivers for Xfree86 4.0.3. I did what the directions say to do, however, when I try to run XawTV that came w/ SuSE 7.1Pro it comes up with /dev/video not installed(or some such). I have tried running v4l-conf and same /dev/video problem. Has anyone gotten GATOS to work on SuSE 7.1? If so, can you help me out. Also, is there any drivers to turn on DRI/GLX/Render extensions on for this card? Thanks! NeoFax

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revert to old modutils?
by Donald G. Knecht 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

hey, a while back I was playing with 2.4 kernels and upgraded modutils on my 7.0 box, for one reason or another, i need to stay with kernel 2.2.16.....now i find certain dri modules won't load when X starts because x can't find the modprobe command? can i revert back to the original 7.0 modutils package? how? TIA, don ------------------------------------ proud Linux user since kernel 1.1.54 icq#42235604

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OT:X server for windows 3.11
by Anders Dahlqvist 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

Does anyone on the list know of a free X server for Windows 3.11? Best regards Anders -- The District of Columbia has a law forbidding you to exert pressure on a balloon and thereby cause a whistling sound on the streets.

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[SLE] Linux and FreeBSD.
by Digby Tarvin 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

>Geoff Bagley: > >Both Linux and FreeBSD seem to be UNIX clones. > >How then do they differ ? > >Does FreeBSD have various "distros" like Linux ? > >Regards >-- >Geoff Bagley My 'executive summary' would be Linux - more powerful FreeBSD - more elegant FreeBSD is one of the Kernels derived from BSD Unix, which was based on the original Unix implementation. Thus it is more of a 'true' decendant. Linux is a new, 'Unix compatible' Kernel, written from a description of how Unix works rather than how it was implemented. The main difference I see (and I have used BSD Unix for since before the source code was free) is that the BSD variants are more conservative. They are managed by a core group who must approve all improvements and changes, and consequently tends to be more consistent. Linux on the other hand is much more bohemian in its attitudes, allowing anyone to have a hack at it, and if others don't like it, make their own distribution. Linux has a 'designed by committee' feel, but the anarchic development model does result in a faster development cycle. Linux also has a much higher public profile, and hence market penetration. This has given it a very big advantage in both developer base, and also in support by commercial software and hardware vendors. In a sense, you could say Linux is the 'Windows' of Unix/Open Source world. Even to the extent of other Unix style systems finding it necessary to include 'Linux compatability modes' along with the various other emulators like WINE. Or alternatively, you could think of Linux as a research oriented system where any new idea can be tried, and BSD concentrates more on being a consistent and reliable workhorse. However the Open Source community being traditionally more technically adventurous seems to mean most people want to use the Research system. And business users, using the same logic that Microsoft have profitted by, do not understand the technology so just follow the majority. End result is, in my opinion: Linux: Pro: is usually ahead of BSD, with more hardware supported and new ideas adopted first. More innovative. Con: is less well organised, and less consistant, with a daunting array of distibutions. The quality of the code varies from great to disgusting. The documentation is also somewhat rambling, with a huge selection of thurd party books to choose from of widely varying merit. BSD: Pro: Well organised and managed. Only one distribution, or at least if a new distribution is started, it will be given a different name. Most of the code is of a consistant quality. A standard concise printed manual comes with the distribution detailing everything that is not adequately covered by 'generic' Unix books. Con: Driver support usually lags behind Linux, as does availability of new kernel features. Less well supported by third party software and hardware vendors. I use both, and once you have them installed and configured, there is very little user visable difference. Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(a)acm.org http://www.cthulhu.dircon.co.uk

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