November 2001 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

RE: [SLE] vmlinuz.suse?
by Heaton, Simon 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Problem determination: If it works with vanilla kernel but not with susefied kernel etc. etc. you have a clue where to start looking? and by definition susefied kernel is not vendor neutral? Just a thought. Kind regards, Simon -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Sarginson [mailto:cliff@raggedclown.net] Sent: 01 November 2001 13:23 To: Suse-Linux-E List (E-mail) Subject: Re: [SLE] vmlinuz.suse? On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 11:16:54AM -0000, Heaton, Simon wrote: > Hi Cliff, > > > Regarding the /boot/vmlinuz.suse and /boot/vmlinuz: Really did believe they > were different otherwise why have duplication with different names? But of I think the point is here that the name vmlinuz will be probably get re-used by people, used as the working kernel name for example, whereas the suse one is a sort of always available kernel should problems occur. Anyway, what would be the point of distributing a non-suse, i.e. vanilla kernel ? -- Regards Cliff -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com -- The content of this e-mail is confidential, may contain privileged material and is intended solely for the recipient(s) named above. If you receive this in error, please notify Software AG immediately and delete this e-mail. Software AG (UK) Limited Registered in England & Wales 1310740 Registered Office: Hudson House, Hudson Way, Pride Park, Derby DE24 8HS

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emacs 21
by Francesco Scaglioni 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Hi, I am running a stock suse 7.1 emacs ( with a few extra bits under ~/emacs ). I have dld emacs 21.1. Before I install ( and risk breaking a working emacs ) has anyone had any problems with this? Cheers Francesco

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RE: [SLE] vmlinuz.suse?
by Heaton, Simon 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Hi Cliff, Indeed apologies to all for the finger trouble over 2.3 and 2.4. Regarding the /boot/vmlinuz.suse and /boot/vmlinuz: Really did believe they were different otherwise why have duplication with different names? But of course I never checked! Oh well, foot in mouth syndrome strikes again. Have a nice day. Kind regards, Simon -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Sarginson [mailto:cliff@raggedclown.net] Sent: 01 November 2001 10:55 To: Suse-Linux-E List (E-mail) Subject: Re: [SLE] vmlinuz.suse? On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 09:27:19AM -0000, Heaton, Simon wrote: > Hi Nick, > > The /boot/vmlinuz kernel is I believe a standard vanilla kernel, generated > from pure 2.3.?? sources from kernel.org. SuSE have created some > extensions/enhancements to the base kernel. The /boot/vmlinuz.suse is a > kernel generated from these patched sources. > I don't think so. I belive vmlinuz/vmlinuz.suse are one and the same after an initial installation. And please don't confuse people ! It is 2.4, the odd-numbered kernels (2.3 for example) are not for public consumption, they are test kernels. -- Regards Cliff -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com -- The content of this e-mail is confidential, may contain privileged material and is intended solely for the recipient(s) named above. If you receive this in error, please notify Software AG immediately and delete this e-mail. Software AG (UK) Limited Registered in England & Wales 1310740 Registered Office: Hudson House, Hudson Way, Pride Park, Derby DE24 8HS

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Re: [SLE] Suse Kernel Patching
by Rafael E. Herrera 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

File patches-2.4.13-5.tar.bz2, as the README file indicates, is a collection of individual patch files to susefy a vanilla 2.4.13. You want the file suse-2.4.13-5.bz2 which is THE patch you want to apply with the 'bzcat suse-2.4.13-5.bz2 | patch -p1' command. If you have any previous vanilla 2.4.x kernel, just download the incremental patches from ftp.xx.kernel.org (xx = your country code). Example, you have 2.4.7, download: ftp://ftp.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/patch-2.4.8.bz2 ftp://ftp.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/patch-2.4.9.bz2 etc. and apply them in their numeric order. Really read the /usr/src/linux/README file. Rafael

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RE: [SLE] vmlinuz.suse?
by Heaton, Simon 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Hi Nick, The /boot/vmlinuz kernel is I believe a standard vanilla kernel, generated from pure 2.3.?? sources from kernel.org. SuSE have created some extensions/enhancements to the base kernel. The /boot/vmlinuz.suse is a kernel generated from these patched sources. Kind regards, Simon -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Sarginson [mailto:cliff@raggedclown.net] Sent: 01 November 2001 06:18 To: SuSE Linux Mailing List Subject: Re: [SLE] vmlinuz.suse? On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 10:58:17AM +0800, Joe & Sesil Morris (NTM) wrote: > Nick Webb wrote: > > >Does anyone know what the difference is between the /boot/vmlinuz and /boot/vmlinuz.suse kernel images and their respective lilo entries? Just curious . . . > > > AFAIK, I believe the suse kernal is there in case you make a mess of > your "linux" kernel. I have had to boot with it before and it bailed me > out. > Yes indeed, you should leave it alone and keep an entry for it in your lilo.conf, it will save your bacon one day. Likewise don't mess with the /lib/modules/'version'-GB, or the initrd.suse. -- Regards Cliff -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com -- The content of this e-mail is confidential, may contain privileged material and is intended solely for the recipient(s) named above. If you receive this in error, please notify Software AG immediately and delete this e-mail. Software AG (UK) Limited Registered in England & Wales 1310740 Registered Office: Hudson House, Hudson Way, Pride Park, Derby DE24 8HS

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Re: [SLE] Fetchmail
by James Ogley 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

[Please reply to the list - it's polite] The same syntax works fine for me, but I'm running sendmail locally as a daemon. The errors look like it's more an issue with sendmail than fetchmail, when I stop sendmail's daemon I get the same error, so if you run sendmail as a daemon does it solve it? > I'm simply trying to download the mail from a POP3 account on roadrunner > so that I can read it with PINE. > I do the following: > > fetchmail -u "jvollmer1" -p POP3 pop-server.mn.rr.com > > answer the password prompt, and get: > > 2 messages for jvollmer1 at pop-server.mn.rr.com (5693 octets). > reading message 1 of 2 (3991 octets) fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost > failed > fetchmail: can't raise the listener; falling back to $sendmail %T...sh: > jvollmer: command not found > fetchmail: SIGPIPE thrown from an MDA or a stream socket error > fetchmail: socket error while fetching from pop-server.mn.rr.com > fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET) > fetchmail: terminated with signal 13 -- James Ogley, Unix Systems Administrator, Pinnacle Insurance Plc james.ogley(a)pinnacle.co.uk www.pinnacle.co.uk +44 (0) 20 8731 3619 Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 7.x) This email was created and sent with Ximian Evolution 0.16 NEW: Advogato diary at www.advogato.org/person/riggwelter *********************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY. This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Pinnacle Insurance Plc. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify our Helpdesk on +44 (0) 20 8207 9555. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **********************************************************************

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RE: [SLE] Suse Kernel Patching
by Heaton, Simon 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Hello again Mark, I think you may find that the patches you are using are ment to take a vanilla 2.3.13 kernel to a susefied 2.3.13. If you try to apply these to a SuSE 2.3.12 kernel you are bound to get errors. Check out the SuSE site, I seem to recall that in the directory which contains these various patch files there is a readme. Kind regards, Simon -----Original Message----- From: kranked(a)canada.com [mailto:kranked@canada.com] Sent: 31 October 2001 22:31 To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: [SLE] Suse Kernel Patching Hi all, I'm trying to update to the newest mantel kernel from my 2.4.12 kernel via the patches-2.4.13-5.tar.bz2 file. I read the kernel how-to on pathing but I didn't get very far with it. I tried issuing the command 'bzcat patches-2.4.13-5.tar.bz2 | patch -p1' from within the /usr/src/linux-2.4.12-SuSE directory, but up came a bunch of stuff about already exsisting files etc etc...and Reapplied etc. I wasn't sure at this point what to do so I thought I'd ask b4 I really fux0red something up. Any help on patching would be appreciated. Thanx Mark Doucette __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com -- The content of this e-mail is confidential, may contain privileged material and is intended solely for the recipient(s) named above. If you receive this in error, please notify Software AG immediately and delete this e-mail. Software AG (UK) Limited Registered in England & Wales 1310740 Registered Office: Hudson House, Hudson Way, Pride Park, Derby DE24 8HS

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RE: [SLE] 7.3 Install.
by Heaton, Simon 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

FWIW: I believe that ipchains and iptables cannot coexist within the kernel. If you currently have the iptables modules loaded, then attempting to load ipchains will fail and vice versa. You will probably find that your stock kernel has ipchains and iptables modules compiled. So to use ipchains first check that non if it's modules are loaded using lsmod. If they are, remove them with rmmod. You should then be able to use ipchains fine. Kind regards, Simon -----Original Message----- From: W.D.McKinney [mailto:deem@wdm.com] Sent: 31 October 2001 19:22 To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: RE: [SLE] 7.3 Install. I knew someone would be able to help. This is another reason why I found it hard to believe you got axed at SuSE, being most helpful like this. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Rosenberg [mailto:ben@whack.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:14 AM To: SLE Subject: Re: [SLE] 7.3 Install. All you have to do is load the module for ipchains. It's most likely not loading by default but it does exist in the kernel since I'm using 2.4.13 out of Huberts directory and it works fine :) * W.D.McKinney (deem(a)wdm.com) [011031 10:26]: ->Please tell me it isn't so :-( I was just about to head to CompUSA and pick ->up a copy. ->This would be bad as my firewall is combo of ipchains/snort/etc. -> ->/Dee - -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com -- The content of this e-mail is confidential, may contain privileged material and is intended solely for the recipient(s) named above. If you receive this in error, please notify Software AG immediately and delete this e-mail. Software AG (UK) Limited Registered in England & Wales 1310740 Registered Office: Hudson House, Hudson Way, Pride Park, Derby DE24 8HS

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Mozilla 0.9.5 rpm
by Massimo Arnaudo 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Hi everibody, i look for the 0.9.5 rpm version of mozilla in the SuSE ftp site, but i do not find it ( the old version were in ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/mozilla/0.9.4/7.0/) Can you suggest me where is it? Regards Massimo -- E impari che puoi davvero sopportare, che sei davvero forte, e che vali davvero. --- --- HomePage: http://spazioweb.inwind.it/arnaudo LinuxGroup: http://lugge.ziobudda.net

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Re: [SLE] Mozilla 0.9.5 rpm
by wolfi_z＠web.de 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

On Wed, 2001-10-31 at 23:57, Ain Vagula wrote: > Massimo Arnaudo wrote: > > > Hi everibody, > > i look for the 0.9.5 rpm version of mozilla (...) > > Can you suggest me where is it? > > > > Regards > > Massimo > > > > you can try the one from ximian > - at your own risk :) No risk - it works :-)) At least for me. But of course, I am using the other stuff from ximian as well (evolution, bonobo and so on). The standard mozilla package from ximian contains only navigator and composer, so for using mail you will have to dl another package in addition (mozilla-mail or so). Have a look in the ftp site, you'll find it. ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-72-i386 Cheers ... Wolfi mailto:wolfi_z@web.de ________________________________________________________________ WEB.DE - das gro?e Horoskop Gewinnspiel! http://horoskop.web.de

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