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[SuSE Linux] 1.44MB X windowing systems
by johnvv＠hotmail.com 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

Hello all, Basically I found some really worthy micro linuxes, thanks. (I hope you read my review) What I want to do now is get the Suse Cyrix Media GX driver working with one of the super light Xwindowing systems. Here, suddenly I have problems. The two packages with the X's are basically poorly maintained. I get corrupt files, the ftp machines wont answer, the mailing list is in Italian. This is getting crazy!! So close yet so far. Any pointers, I'm sort-of getting flustered. John van V. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] HP8100 cd-rw. Does SuSE support it?
by memas＠otenet.gr 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

Hi. I want to know if SuSE supports the HP 8100 cd rewritable. Thanks - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Unlimited data
by moellman＠studST.FH-Muenster.DE 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

zentara wrote: > > Melia, Tony wrote: > > > > I have a DLT drive I need to test, so I need to backup 30Gig of data. I > > don't have 30G of data to backup. Is there a device file I can backup, like > > the /dev/random or /dev/null that will seem like a large file (not just a > > large data file made up of zero's). > > > > Here's a thought if you are testing. Why not make up > a 1 gig file, and copy it 30 times to the tape? > Then you can retreive each copy and verify it's > accuracy against the original. > > Isn't there a 2 gig limit on file size anyways? I'm not sure, but isn't it a new glibc feature to create files with TeraByte size. Bernd - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] HOWTO making custom SuSE install floppies ????
by roland＠tschai.demon.nl 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

Hi, My system setup is such that I use a patched kernel to enable more than 4 multiple devices. (RAID 0) Also my / device is a raid device. Using a normal installation floppy, using YaST, I can go to a prompt, do mdadd, mdrun etc., for my / device, then use the YaST option 'Adjustments of installation' -> 'Set target partitions/filesystems', and after pointing it to /dev/md0 as my / device, it would then automagically start all the other raid devices, and mount the partitions, so that I can do a painless update from SuSE 5.2 -> SuSE 5.3, or whatever, even if all my filesystems are raid devices. Only this will not work, because the kernel on the installation floppy is not patched to recognize more than /dev/md[0..3] (I need at least /dev/md[0..7]). To be able to do this, I need an altered installation floppy, and I tried to make one myself, but I got stuck, I know, it's silly. first I copied the disk to another disk: cp /dev/fd0 susebootflop <put in new disk> cp susebootflop /dev/fd0 Then I mount the disk: mount /floppy (it is a msdos/vfat filesystem) Then I copied the kernel as I want it to the disk, and used it as my new installation disk. It will then start with the blue SuSE screen, say loading initdisk.gz, loading linux, and all is well up until it says: "RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00" This 01:00 is the ramdisk /dev/ram0, so obviously I need to do something along the lines of using rdev to make my kernel recognize the ramdisk on the floppy. Probably I need to alter some other things as well, but most helpful would be someone, either at SuSE or this list, to answer the following question: How can I make my own custom SuSE installation floppy ?? thanks in advance, Roland Nagtegaal ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UNIX isn't dead, it just smells funny... Run Linux! Keep The Net Free! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE derailed? Not if...
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

On 30-Jan-99 Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > >> This is what the Linux Standard Base (LSB) project is aiming to, and >> we are working on this together with the other distributors. It just >> takes some more time, it's a huge project. Have a look at >> <A HREF="http://www.linuxbase.org/"><A HREF="http://www.linuxbase.org/</A">http://www.linuxbase.org/</A</A>> for further info. > > LSB is a nice effort. It may or may not succeed. What I'm worrying > about is that for the average person, Linux == RedHat and more so if it > comes preinstalled. Who will you sell an upgrade to if the people only > knows another distro? I hope LSB (or equivalent) will be achieved. I think it is essential at this stage of Linux evolution for there to be a standard which everyone can expect, no matter what distribution they choose to install. At present "Linux", by definition, simply means a Linux kernel plus whatever else you decide to bundle with it. Contrast it with FreeBSD, where this is defined by what is one the FreeBSD ftp site. What is required is a definitive file-system structure (including config files), a definitive configuration procedure, a definitive installation and upgrading mechanism, etc, and an absolutely standard linux "base" system. This should apply to different distributions (though any distribution is of course free to set itself aside but then must accept the consequences) and, as far as possible, should apply to any one distribution consistently over time. Now that Linux is being adopted by enterprises and institutions, and other setups whose primary interest is in getting work done, such people will want assurance that their choice of distribution will continue to be upgradeable and usable. They do not want to fear that their distribution may go out of date or have to be changed for another distribution. They do not want to lose days of productivity time while they move from distribution to incompatible distribution, or upgrade from version to incompatible version. At present, you cannot expect to safely install a new distribution with a different distribution in place. Even though Red Hat and SuSE both use RPM and are in many ways similar, there are enough basic differences for this to be very risky. The only safe way to move from one to the other is to back up everything you want to keep, and install the new one from scratch. Still less could you expect to safely install Debian or Slackware over an existing RH or SuSE (or vice versa). I remember (with reasons) the sequence of distributions I have been through since 1992. First, SLS 0.99 (good for its time, but it disappeared). Then MCC-Interim 1.0: good; but limited: so I moved to Slackware-1.0 (also good), but this became obsolete (a.out->ELF) after a couple of years, by which time Slackware was almost out of sight (Patrick Volkerding had quit). Debian has not quite reached 1.0 then, so I moved to RedHat-3.1. Then it was RedHat-4.1 which required a complete re-install because RPM ws upgraded to an incompatible version (which was what forced the upgrade anyway: it was no longer possible to install RH packages on RH-3.1 if they had been packaged with RPM for RH-4.1). Of course, RH-4.1 would only work properly if the many "upgrades" were installed to correct the bugs on the primary distribution. I might have gone on to RH-5, but this was late, and SuSE-5.0 came out: I looked at this, liked it, and then installed SuSE-5.1 definitively (I have been pretty pleased with this so far). Since then, SuSE-5.2 and 5.3 have come out. Since YaST upgraded incompatibly between 5.1 and 5.2, I have not upgraded yet: I might have gone for 5.3 but by then the libc5->glibc wave was breaking, so I'm waiting to see what will happen with SuSE-6.0. Since I use Linux to get work done, I shall be watching the experiences of the more adventurous: let others find the crevasses before I step on the glacier. Meanwhile, although RedHat-5.1 was apparently issued in too much of a hurry, people are saying good things about RH-5.2; indeed, I have a few friends who have been disappointed with SuSE-5.3, and have gone over to RH-5.2. And RH-5.2 is already glibc. So who knows what I shall be using in 6 months time? Now that is all very well for an individual running a small bunch of machines, prepared to "wait and see" and put up with limitations while doing so, and willing to get involved in the hassle of trying different distributions and putting right the problems with the chosen distribution. However, it is NOT going to appeal to businesses, institutions and enterprises. Quite recently, Linux is attracting a LOT of interest from these sectors, and they are going to favour any distribution which looks as though it has a large following, will continue to work reliably, will not fundamentally change, will continue to be straightforwardly ugradeable, and does NOT look as though it may -- at some unpredictable time -- become obsolete so that they have to strip everything out and install a different and incompatible distribution or alternatively upgrade their distribution from its current version to a newer incompatible version. So, in my book, the sooner the major distributions agree on what the core of a Linux system should consist of, the better. Otherwise, a distribution may be excellent but it will have only a minority following. On these grounds, though SuSE has many good features, on present trends it looks as though it may continue to lose ground to Red Hat. I could stick with it personally; but I would feel wary of recommending it to enterprises. (I hope SuSE are giving thought to making YaST more friendly to the new user, and less liable to plant traps for the unwary). And, by the way, am I not also hearing some good things about Slackware recently ... ?? Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Date: 01-Feb-99 Time: 15:41:50 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] looking for info pls
by jack＠malone.tyler.com 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

I am currently running a novell server at work. I want to put up an linux server as a backup server for now. What I want to know is can i just take the novell backup data an restore the stuff that i want to put on the linux server onto in linux or would i have to reinstall the software on linux. We mostly used the server for our accounting software (SBT ACCOUNTING). Thanks in advance for the info. I Another question i have is that we are getting cable access here in town via TCA cable. They say you can not run a server on it but I thought if you ran ip masq an a procxy server that they could not tell the difference, any comments, thanks. jack - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] netscape craches
by rachel＠epinet.co.uk 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

Ola Andersson wrote: > > Grrrr.... > > Darn netscape... > > It craches sa soon it sees a java applet. I know i can turn it off > but... or rather it "freezes". > > Am I the only one ? I had this problem until I upgraded to SuSE 6.0beta, since when it's been fine except when the network disappears (we have a dodgy router - ancient Red Hat 4.something in very inadequate hardware) - if the network disappears, Netscape crashes. I wonder if it's useable on a dialup? -- Rachel - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] apsfilter
by milan＠elas.sk 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

How can I setup CR->CRLF conversation Milan Hromada <A HREF="mailto:mhromada@elas.sk">mailto:mhromada@elas.sk</A> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: Can't keep time
by Anthony.Schlemmer＠gte.net 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

The CMOS clock on my Linux systems seem to lose time gradually and my favorite way to try to keep the time in sync is to perform regular time adjustments. I have a program I picked up several years ago called "nistime" that obtains a time string from the National Institute of Standard's atomic clock. I then have been having my systems do a "/sbin/clock -w" once a day when the daily cron job kicks off at 06:53 hours. This has helped keep my CMOS clocks much closer to actual time. Jim Osborn wrote: > > Brad Shelton <bshelton(a)ole.ole.net> responds: > >After you set the time, you need to write it to the hardware clock. > >Othwise it'll continue to get the wrong time from the hardware clock. > > > >To set the hardware clock, as root do clock -w. > > Thanks, Brad, and others. I guess it goes to show how long > it's been since I've upgraded; my ancient Slackware setup > wrote to the hardware clock whenever I did a simple `date.' > I'd never heard of the `clock' or `hwclock' commands. > > Another question occurs, though. In my previous setup, changes > to/from Daylight Savings Time were automatic. I assume knowledge > of these changes is in the Linux software, not the hardware > clock, but in any case, I never had to perform any administrative > tasks at that time of year. In fact, I could check with Linux > if I was in doubt if this was the time of changeover. > > Since I bought this machine just before last fall's change from > DST, and I rarely reboot, I suspect SuSE 5.3 does NOT update the > hardware clock after the DST change, but the normal Linux date > routines know when the change occurs and adjust the soft clock, > and that's why I didn't know anything was amiss. > > What do you all recommend now to cope with DST? Should a routine > be added somewhere to write to the hardware clock when a change > to/from DST occurs, say, as a twice-a-year cron task? If so, > does anyone have a favorite cron spec for USA DST? > > I'm suspicious that my hardware clock is likely not very accurate, > given that it seemed to be off noticably in the short time I halted > my machine in my testing. What do you folks recommend as a source > of accurate time? Is your computer crystal clock pretty good? > Do you periodically dial up a standards bureau? Favorite suggestions? > Given all the capabilities of clock(8) and hwclock it's tempting > to go for some accuracy. My current /etc/adjtime is all zeros. > > Thanks again, > > Jim > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the > archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> -- Anthony.Schlemmer(a)gte.net - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] netscape craches
by Anthony.Schlemmer＠gte.net 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

I use Communicator 4.5 everyday under both NT 4.0 SP3 and SuSE Linux 5.3 d and I can't say I see much in the way of crashing. Yes Communicator does crash once in a while on both my systems but it is quite rare. I use messenger as my email client on both platforms too. There does seem to be some strange behavior where Communicator seems to use alot of memory. I noticed one time that netscape had a process size of 130MB. It's didn't crash and I simply shut it down and restarted and then it was fine again. I only saw this behavior the one time. It was very obvious as anything I did within Netscape caused the disk to thrash a bit due to swapping. My primary Linux box that I use daily has a fair amount of memory: 128MB of RAM and a 128MB swap partition. "B. John Gilger" wrote: > > zentara wrote: > > |Maybe when SuSe 6 comes out the glibc version > |of Netscape 4.5 will work better. hope so. > > Don't hold your breath. Netscape 4.5 doesn't work on any OS AFAIK. > > The advice to go with Netscape 4.03 is good. > > John Gilger > bjgilger(a)earthlink.net > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the > archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> Just my $0.02, Tony -- Anthony.Schlemmer(a)gte.net - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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