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Re[2]: [S.u.S.E. Linux] MicroStation 95
by rolf＠suse.de 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

> > What is this program you are talking about ? > > Does it look like W95 ? Microstation is a 2D/3D CAD software available for Linux (have a look at <A HREF="http://www.bentley.com/"><A HREF="http://www.bentley.com/</A">http://www.bentley.com/</A</A>>). As far as I remember it's completly in English! sincerly, Rolf Haberrecker ##################################################################### # Rolf Haberrecker, M.A. S.u.S.E. GmbH fon +49-911-3247130 # # rolf(a)suse.de Gebhardtstrasse 2 fax +49-911-3206727 # # <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/</A">http://www.suse.com/</A</A>> # ##################################################################### -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Package question (SuSE)
by choeger＠suse.de 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

On Sun, 1 Feb 1998, Wayne Topa wrote: > Just found an interesting command, which is new to me, tcpdchk, it > checks out the inetd file for errors. Mine ( from SuSE 5.1) seems to > have a few errors that I wonder if SuSE might know about: > > > tcpdchk > warning: /etc/inetd.conf, line 91: /usr/lib/xcept4/bin/ceptd: not > found: No such file or directory > warning: /etc/inetd.conf, line 99: in.midinetd: not found in > /usr/sbin: No such file or directory > > > As of now they are not affecting me (I don't think ?) but you never > know. They are probably for some package I haven't loaded but thought > Yast would handle that as part of the configuration administration(?). You can ignore these messages. ceptd is used for btx (german: Bildschirmtext) I don't know what midinet is for. :-) You may comment it out. > Also found that there are no man pages or Info files for inetd.conf(5) and > tlid.conf(5). I found this out while reading up on tcpdck. > > SuSE guys, are these available on your site somewhere?? take a look at 'man inetd'... mfG, Carsten Hoeger ------ Carsten Hoeger - S.u.S.E. GmbH - Gebhardtstr. 2 - 90762 Fuerth - Germany fax +49-911-3206727 web <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> In no sense, nonsense... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Mail problems
by choeger＠suse.de 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Mike Hostetler wrote: > What I see is this: > I'm presently using smail, but I saw the same results with sendmail. > Things look like this: > > 118 jesusfreak:~ > /usr/lib/sendmail -v mhostetl(a)cse.unl.edu > hello > . > write_log:Received FROM:mikeh PROGRAM:sendmail SIZE:76 > mhostetl(a)cse.unl.edu: cse.unl.edu matched by bind_hosts: > routed mhostetl(a)cse.unl.edu --> mhostetl(a)cse.unl.edu at cse.unl.edu > transport hint mx 0 cse.unl.edu > address hint cse.unl.edu 129.93.33.1 > transport inet_zone_bind_smtp uses driver tcpsmtp > lock retry/smtp/cse.unl.edu > lock succeeded (will defer failure) retry/smtp/cse.unl.edu > transport inet_zone_bind_smtp: connect to host cse.unl.edu [129.93.33.1]/smtp...connected > transport inet_zone_bind_smtp: 451 <mikeh(a)jesusfreak.binary.net>... Sender domain must resolve > unlock (success) retry/smtp/cse.unl.edu > write_log:Deferred TO:mhostetl@cse.unl.edu ROUTER:bind_hosts TRANSPORT:inet_zone_bind_smtp ERROR:(ERR151) transport inet_zone_bind_smtp: 451 <mikeh(a)jesusfreak.binary.net>... Sender domain must resolve > > So it can't resolve my hostname, which wouldn't happen if I had a static > ip address. What is the way around this??? I can't resolve jesusfreak.binary.net, too. What I can resolve, is binary.net. Perhaps the only thing you have to do is to set FROM_HEADER=binary.net in /etc/rc.config mfG, Carsten Hoeger ------ Carsten Hoeger - S.u.S.E. GmbH - Gebhardtstr. 2 - 90762 Fuerth - Germany fax +49-911-3206727 web <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> In no sense, nonsense... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Mail problems
by thehaas＠ravine.binary.net 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

I'm having some serious problems when trying to send mail out over my PPP connection. My ISP have dynamic ip addressing, which adds to the problem. What I see is this: I'm presently using smail, but I saw the same results with sendmail. Things look like this: 118 jesusfreak:~ > /usr/lib/sendmail -v mhostetl(a)cse.unl.edu hello . write_log:Received FROM:mikeh PROGRAM:sendmail SIZE:76 mhostetl(a)cse.unl.edu: cse.unl.edu matched by bind_hosts: routed mhostetl(a)cse.unl.edu --> mhostetl(a)cse.unl.edu at cse.unl.edu transport hint mx 0 cse.unl.edu address hint cse.unl.edu 129.93.33.1 transport inet_zone_bind_smtp uses driver tcpsmtp lock retry/smtp/cse.unl.edu lock succeeded (will defer failure) retry/smtp/cse.unl.edu transport inet_zone_bind_smtp: connect to host cse.unl.edu [129.93.33.1]/smtp...connected transport inet_zone_bind_smtp: 451 <mikeh(a)jesusfreak.binary.net>... Sender domain must resolve unlock (success) retry/smtp/cse.unl.edu write_log:Deferred TO:mhostetl@cse.unl.edu ROUTER:bind_hosts TRANSPORT:inet_zone_bind_smtp ERROR:(ERR151) transport inet_zone_bind_smtp: 451 <mikeh(a)jesusfreak.binary.net>... Sender domain must resolve So it can't resolve my hostname, which wouldn't happen if I had a static ip address. What is the way around this??? - mikeh -- ============================================================================== || Mike Hostetler || || <A HREF="http://www.binary.net/thehaas"><A HREF="http://www.binary.net/thehaas</A">http://www.binary.net/thehaas</A</A>> || || email1: mhostetl(a)cse.unl.edu || || email2: thehaas(a)binary.net || ============================================================================== || `When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just || || stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, || || *for free*".' - Linus Torvalds || ============================================================================== -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] MicroStation 95
by bennie＠xs4all.nl 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

What is this program you are talking about ? Does it look like W95 ? On Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:54:06 -0900 (AKST) "W.D. McKinney" <deem(a)wdm.com> wrote: > > I'm wondering if there is a version of MicroStation 95 in the English language > for the other than German users ? Be great to see one. > > Regards > -Dee > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ______________________ Benjamin van Ruyssevelt ICQ 4739669 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Running SuSE Linux
by Martin.Scherbaum＠suse.de 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

Hi, I actually do not read this list, but the below messages was forwarded to me to bring a bit of light ;-) > From: Michael Perry <mperry(a)mperry.basin.com> > Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: Running SuSE Linux > > > On Sun, Feb 01, 1998 at 10:29:51PM -0500, Wayne Topa stated: > > > > > > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Running SuSE Linux > > Date: Fri, Jan 30, 1998 at 12:37:14PM -0800 > > > > In reply to:Bodo Bauer > > > > Quoting Bodo Bauer (bb(a)suse.de): > > > > > > > > > Eric L. Green wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't see any way to start up a different window manager other than > > > > the SuSE-offered ones, without modifying the actual "startx" script. Most > > > > installations' "startx" respects the .Xclients file and sources its > > > > contents prior to doing whatever other stuff is desired. I didn't see > > > > anything in SuSE's "startx" that did that. > > > > and Bodo replied > > > > > > > > Yust set environment variable WINDOWMANAGER to the wm you like... > > > > > > > Well I tried that. As a user, I did, export WINDOWMAKER=/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm95 > > and then startx. Nope still fvwm2. So I exited and logged in again. > > Same thing. So I then modified /etc/profile and changed IT to fvwm95. > > Logged in the user again and STILL fvwm2. Checked WINDOWMANAGER and > > it was still fvwm2. So rebooted the system ( This really should NOT > > be necessary!!!) and YES WINDOWMANAGER is now /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm95. > > Logged in the used and did startx, again. Windowmanager is STILL > > fvwm2. > > > > For those that might write and so SO WHAT, the user can change it to > > what ever he wants. NO SO /etc/profile is common to all users. If > > the change HAS to be made there it will be the same for ALL USERS. > > > > I still don't know why I have to reboot the system to get changes > > logged in. There MUST be a better way but I have not found it yet. > > > > I still have not finished RTFM yet tho. Who ever told me that this > > was just like Slackware must have never run Slackware! > > > > In playing(!) around in X with the window managers (switching back & > > forth checking them out) I had something happen that I have never seen > > on Linux before. I had finally had enough and Hit the button to exit > > fvwm2 & X. Windows did not exit, just closed a couple of xterms and > > HUNG. So I hit ctrl/alr/BS and at that point the system HUNG. By > > HUNG I mean, I could switch to other consoles but nothing was accepted > > from the keyboard on ANY console. The hard disk was clicking away but > > ALL users were locked out. After 15 minutes of this I shut down the > > power to the computer. Rebooting went normal (all partitions had to be > > fsck'ed of course) but the system came up fine. With WINDOWMANAGER > > pointing to fvwm95 but X coming up in fvwm2. > > > > This is starting NOT to be fun, guys! > > Another interesting thing with kde and SuSE 5.1 here. If I edit .xinitrc > in my home directory to reflect exec kde I get kde but not the actual guts > of kde. I get the windowmanager only but no functionality, if you know > what I mean. I can only change windowmanagers by changing it in > /etc/profile, logging out, and letting my profile be read again. I would > like it if someone would explain how /etc/profile sets the windowmanager > and why it cannot dynamically be changed. It seems to change the > windowmanager one must edit /etc/profile, change it there, then logout and > enter the console again. Is this correct, in essence? > > > Wayne So, let me say something about the principles. Since 5.1 we have minor changes to reflect needs of KDE. In /etc/profile you'll find a line like that: WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2 export WINDOWMANAGER For convenience and compatibility to KDE you should change that to test -z "$WINDOWMANAGER" && WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2 export WINDOWMANAGER This is needed since KDM sets WINDOWMANAGER explicitely. Otherwise the WINDOWMANAGER set by KDM would be overwritten by /etc/profile /etc/profile sets that for all users in the system If one wants to modify the WINDOWMANAGER setting for one user, the change should be done in ~/.bashrc there also, should be a test for the WINDOWMANAGER (if you want to use it flexibly from KDM): test -z "$WINDOWMANAGER" && WINDOWMANAGER=mywindowmanager export WINDOWMANAGER If you explicitely want to use a specific window manager, place that in ~/.bashrc: WINDOWMANAGER=mywindowmanager export WINDOWMANAGER NB: you do not need to specify the full path to the window manager binary if it is in PATH! The described problem with having to reboot is not known yet. If you do changes to /etc/profile, you have to logout, at least. This could not work, if you use xdm oder kdm since they use a shell themselves. WINDOWMANAGER is set then to default fvwm2. You could shutdown xdm then and restart it (init 2; init 3). Then, the changes in /etc/profile are valid for xdm logins, too. One should not place WINDOWMANAGER in ~/.xinitrc directly, but in ~/.bashrc as described above. OK, I hope I could bring a bit of light in the discussion. Martin Scherbaum, S.u.S.E. Supportteam ########################################################################### # Martin Scherbaum, M.A. S.u.S.E. GmbH phone +49-911-3247130 # # maddin(a)suse.de Gebhardtstrasse 2 fax +49-911-3206727 # # <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany mailbox +49-911-3247122 # ########################################################################### -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] MicroStation 95
by deem＠wdm.com 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

I'm wondering if there is a version of MicroStation 95 in the English language for the other than German users ? Be great to see one. Regards -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re[2]: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Running SuSE Linux
by rolf＠suse.de 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

> > I liked the way that most stock SuSE applications installed an icon. > > Too bad you can't do that with Netscape and thus must leave its icon and > > menu item there all the time. Any idea when you can make a deal with > > Netscape to include Netscape? > > The Netscpae Icon should only appear when netscape is installed...?! No, the Netscape icon appears if /usr/X11R6/bin/Netscape is installed, which reads: trap "" 31 prog="" if [ -x /opt/netscape/netscape ] ; then prog="/opt/netscape/netscape" else prog="$prog $(type -p netscape)" prog="$prog $(type -p netscape_301)" prog="$prog $(type -p netscape_303)" prog="$prog $(type -p Mosaic)" prog="$prog $(type -p mosaic)" prog="$prog $(type -p arena)" prog="$prog $(type -p amaya)" fi whatever browser is available will be started. So once netscape is installed, it can be started by icon, otherwise arena will appear. sincerly, Rolf Haberrecker ##################################################################### # Rolf Haberrecker, M.A. S.u.S.E. GmbH fon +49-911-3247130 # # rolf(a)suse.de Gebhardtstrasse 2 fax +49-911-3206727 # # <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/</A">http://www.suse.com/</A</A>> # ##################################################################### -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Running SuSE Linux
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

OK, Found the answer to the rebooting question. If you make changes to /etc/profile (and others I'd guess), just run /sbin/SuSEconfig, log out and back in. The changes will be there. I guess thats in th Fine Manual but I haven't got to that section as of yet. That is different then I am used to but I can live wit that. Bodo, would this have taken care of that question I had about removing a package, updating a new version into a different directory and having the system not find the new one til I rebooted? Bet that was it. Well this might help others out, even if I look like a dumb bell! Wayne Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Running SuSE Linux Date: Sun, Feb 01, 1998 at 10:29:51PM -0500 In reply to:Wayne Topa Quoting Wayne Topa (wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com): > > > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Running SuSE Linux > Date: Fri, Jan 30, 1998 at 12:37:14PM -0800 > > In reply to:Bodo Bauer > > Quoting Bodo Bauer (bb(a)suse.de): > > > > > > Eric L. Green wrote: > > > > > > I don't see any way to start up a different window manager other than > > > the SuSE-offered ones, without modifying the actual "startx" script. Most > > > installations' "startx" respects the .Xclients file and sources its > > > contents prior to doing whatever other stuff is desired. I didn't see > > > anything in SuSE's "startx" that did that. > > and Bodo replied > > > > > Yust set environment variable WINDOWMANAGER to the wm you like... > > > > Well I tried that. As a user, I did, export WINDOWMAKER=/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm95 > and then startx. Nope still fvwm2. So I exited and logged in again. > Same thing. So I then modified /etc/profile and changed IT to fvwm95. > Logged in the user again and STILL fvwm2. Checked WINDOWMANAGER and > it was still fvwm2. So rebooted the system ( This really should NOT > be necessary!!!) and YES WINDOWMANAGER is now /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm95. > Logged in the used and did startx, again. Windowmanager is STILL > fvwm2. > > For those that might write and so SO WHAT, the user can change it to > what ever he wants. NO SO /etc/profile is common to all users. If > the change HAS to be made there it will be the same for ALL USERS. > > I still don't know why I have to reboot the system to get changes > logged in. There MUST be a better way but I have not found it yet. > > I still have not finished RTFM yet tho. Who ever told me that this > was just like Slackware must have never run Slackware! > > In playing(!) around in X with the window managers (switching back & > forth checking them out) I had something happen that I have never seen > on Linux before. I had finally had enough and Hit the button to exit > fvwm2 & X. Windows did not exit, just closed a couple of xterms and > HUNG. So I hit ctrl/alr/BS and at that point the system HUNG. By > HUNG I mean, I could switch to other consoles but nothing was accepted > from the keyboard on ANY console. The hard disk was clicking away but > ALL users were locked out. After 15 minutes of this I shut down the > power to the computer. Rebooting went normal (all partitions had to be > fsck'ed of course) but the system came up fine. With WINDOWMANAGER > pointing to fvwm95 but X coming up in fvwm2. > > This is starting NOT to be fun, guys! > > Wayne > > > -- > Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit > patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit > microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of > competition. > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- -- Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Running SuSE Linux
by svet＠alamo.satlug.org 02 Feb '98

02 Feb '98

> > Michael > > Glad you mentioned .xinitrc. As I recall, you upgraded from SuSE > 5.0. Well I just started with 5.1. I DON'T have an .xinitrc at all. > I copied my Slackware .xinitrc over and X WOULDN'T START! Gave me an > error and flat out quit. So I have to go with what they give me, if > you know what I mean. Maybe we SHOULD RTFM, huh? If I recall, you don't automatically get any sort of .xinitrc unless: a) you start x for the first time and the system writes you one. b) you go to /var/X11R6/lib/xinit/ and do the following: cp xinitrc $HOME/.xinitrc then make changes to your personal .xinitrc to your tastes. As for your Slackware version of .xinitrc, it probably wouldn't work, since Slackware and S.u.S.E have some differences in directory structure. Plus, i think where the Slackware tarball puts certain files and where the rpm puts things is diffrent. this can cause problems. Again, Slackware doesn't automatically start with a .xinitrc file in every new users directory...I believe, as with S.u.S.E, it apperas there after teh first successful X session or if you copied the system default xinitrc into your home directory. I hope that helps with some confusion svet > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Running SuSE Linux > Date: Sun, Feb 01, 1998 at 07:46:52PM -0800 > > In reply to:Michael Perry > > Quoting Michael Perry (mperry(a)mperry.basin.com): > > > > On Sun, Feb 01, 1998 at 10:29:51PM -0500, Wayne Topa stated: > > Another interesting thing with kde and SuSE 5.1 here. If I edit .xinitrc > > in my home directory to reflect exec kde I get kde but not the actual guts > > of kde. I get the windowmanager only but no functionality, if you know > > what I mean. I can only change windowmanagers by changing it in > > /etc/profile, logging out, and letting my profile be read again. I would > > like it if someone would explain how /etc/profile sets the windowmanager > > and why it cannot dynamically be changed. It seems to change the > > windowmanager one must edit /etc/profile, change it there, then logout and > > enter the console again. Is this correct, in essence? > > > > > > > Wayne > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit > > > patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit > > > microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of > > > competition. > > > -- > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > -- > > --Michael Perry-- > > mperry(a)mperry.basin.com > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > -- > -- > Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit > patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit > microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of > competition. > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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